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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
Epic thread question.

What page will Rex get laid on?

I got page 20.
11-14-2016 04:56 PM
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(11-14-2016 04:51 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  She is more likely in my view to be insecure about her figure and looking for reassurance from you than she is to be fucking someone else. You have been completely apathetic most of the time, whilst also occasionally showing interest. It's not congruent, and she can probably smell that a mile off. It's the sort of thing that perhaps, depending on the rest of your demeanour, may give off an element of the player vibe without quite showing enough of another side of you for it to be congruent that you're a player.


And for this reason alone I wouldn't have sex with her. You're clearly not inspired by her and don't you think she'll get attached if you bang her? I wouldn't do it. I haven't had sex in years either and the next person I do it with HAS to be inspiring, after all this time off I want the first one back to be inspiring. It could be with a pro, I don't care, I want to enjoy it and be smiling afterwards, not thinking "well, that sucked but at least it's over with"...and then getting a call from the woman wanting my time and then getting hurt when I don't give it too her and then feeling guilty and shit.....fuuuuuuuuck that.

Your story angered me yesterday because it reminded my of myself, so, I too want to figure out what's feeding your apathy, because I feel it too and I have some thoughts about what it might be and want to resolve it myself.
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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
(11-13-2016 05:45 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Well, I invited her over for dinner. Didn't buy the condoms yet, though.

Why didn't you get condoms?

Not really attracted to her?

Subconscious Self sabotage?

Just didn't find time to do it?


I'm just thinking out loud for my own curiosity and to help you uncover the root issues/causes..

(11-14-2016 12:04 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  got a bunch of LMR after some heavy makeouts. She said she only slept with one person at a time and I wouldn't commit to that (even though I agree with it).

She wants to have sex with one person.

You want to have sex with one person.

Why did you disagree???

(11-14-2016 03:08 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  "You have had a good start. Work harder!" I guess Gio is working for a Chinese cookie company?

I would not write that.

I would write -- "Work Smarter"

(11-14-2016 05:34 PM)Zep Wrote:  Your story angered me yesterday because it reminded my of myself

I too want to figure out what's feeding your apathy

I have some thoughts about what it might be and want to resolve it myself.

You guys should talk. Help each other!

There are some underlying issues here that have yet to be discussed..

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Continue to be playful and enjoy the process of manifesting a sex life!

Do it at a pace and intensity that is comfortable to you.

Dude, you almost banged this chick and you are really close! You have done well so far!

Bang her soon before she loses interest, or, move on and find another girl, or borrow a couple thousand and fly to eastern europe to bang beautiful prostitutes .. DOING NOTHING IS THE MISTAKE!

Don't fucking quit!
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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
Quote:Why did you disagree???

I was worried I was being manipulated into declaring a relationship.

Do you think it was a mistake to whip it out? (I thought, when in doubt... ) Laugh

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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(11-14-2016 10:39 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I was worried I was being manipulated into declaring a relationship.

She did NOT say "relationship"

She said "sex with only one person at a time"

There is a big difference.

Fuck her but DON'T COMMIT to a relationship.

Fuck her and then make her an "activity partner" (with benefits)

(11-14-2016 10:39 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Do you think it was a mistake to whip it out? (I thought, when in doubt... ) Laugh

lololol!

Wait?!?!?

Did you whip out your dick???
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Yeah. She was grabbing it through my pants so I unzipped.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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(11-14-2016 10:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Yeah. She was grabbing it through my pants so I unzipped.

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Thata boy Rex!!!!

I'm proud of you!

You are doing great!

Keep going!
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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
(11-14-2016 10:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Yeah. She was grabbing it through my pants so I unzipped.

This is better than I thought. Rex, I think you're really selling yourself short. Damn, man.

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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
So what happened when you unzipped? There's gotta be more to the story!
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Well, she grabbed it some more but that was about the limit. We did more deep kissing but she did not want me to proceed any further after I tested reaching into her pants. I asked if she really meant it or "are you just saying that" and she said she did, so that was that.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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(11-14-2016 11:02 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 10:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Yeah. She was grabbing it through my pants so I unzipped.

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Thata boy Rex!!!!

I'm proud of you!

You are doing great!

Keep going!

I don't want to cause guys to start getting charged with indecent exposure, but that's what I do every time now and it almost always leads to sex. There was just this one time where a girl didn't touch it and told me to put it back in my pants, but even she didn't get that pissed off and I think there was something seriously wrong with that girl.
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(11-15-2016 04:31 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Well, she grabbed it some more but that was about the limit. We did more deep kissing but she did not want me to proceed any further after I tested reaching into her pants. I asked if she really meant it or "are you just saying that" and she said she did, so that was that.

Don't ever ask her if she meant it. Push it, test it, make her stop you. Girls say they didn't want to have sex tonight or some variation of that all the time. That means that she wants to fuck you, sex is on her mind.

She's putting up a barricade to stop you that's like a finish line ribbon. She's knows it's weak you just have to bust through it. If she really wanted to stop you she'd put up a brick wall.
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RE: First date in 12 years tomorrow. What do I need to know?
Rex, how many dates did you have with this girl? 3? 4?
And she doesn't want to fuck you?

I think you should next her.
Find a girl with an actual sex drive.
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(11-15-2016 11:08 AM)Latan Wrote:  Rex, how many dates did you have with this girl? 3? 4?
And she doesn't want to fuck you?

I guess the last one was the fifth.

Sometimes it seemed like she did.
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(11-15-2016 11:30 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  
(11-15-2016 11:08 AM)Latan Wrote:  Rex, how many dates did you have with this girl? 3? 4?
And she doesn't want to fuck you?

I guess the last one was the fifth.

Sometimes it seemed like she did.

Push for banging her. I don't think this is about the girl. It's about the mental block you have.

You NEED to bang this girl to get out of that mindset.
You NEED to bang this girl so you can bang other ones.
You NEED to bang this girl just because you need to bang this girl.
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(11-15-2016 11:30 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  I guess the last one was the fifth date.

At this point, it doesn't matter how many dates...

What matters is:

You are progressing!

You are escalating!

You are making out with her!

She is GRABBING YOUR DICK!


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Sex should happen very soon.

Try to stay calm about it.. Stay playful and lighthearted with her..

Do you have any concerns/questions/issues that you want to discuss?

I know you don't want a relationship, never commit to that.

Think "activity partner" / "drinking buddy" / "friend with benefits"

(11-15-2016 12:10 PM)realologist Wrote:  You NEED to bang this girl so you can bang other ones.

I agree!

I just changed my mind! (Previously, I was saying NOT to bang her due to minimal attraction, but, at this point, you are so close! You may as well do it!)

Like realologist stated:

Banging her will help you bang other girls!

Bang her just to prove to yourself that you can get laid!

Bang her just for the practice and experience!

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I did the same thing when I was a beginner..

I banged a few 5s and 6s just to get the experience and to prove to myself that I could do it.. That experience allowed me to start banging 7s... Which led to 8s!

The "fuck ladder" is real!

We climb it one step at a time!

Keep going Rex!
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Quote:The "fuck ladder" is real!

Laugh

Obviously there is definitely some attraction, but I am also dealing with my own ego/pride cockblocking myself, and some fears, but I feel good about getting closer.

And the Seinfeld thing really was happening, too. That story was probably based on some real life experience.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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First of all, congrats on 1) having the guts to whip it out - a high risk, high reward move - and 2) not cumming as soon as she started stroking your dick - God knows I've been there after a couple of weeks, who knows what would happen after a multiple year dry spell.

At this point you seem again to be getting inside of your head. Stop rationalizing and overthinking. Be in the moment. Be an "animal", in the best sense of the word. That is, no past, no future - just exist, act and react, keeping it playful.

Also, you should be beginning to realize that whatever she says might not necessarily be true. This girl 100% wants to bang you, her reply is just her hamster spinning in place. Disregard what she says, start paying attention only to non-verbal cues.

She's saying she won't bang you. You say "Cool. Don't worry about it", in a neutral tone, while you stroke her hair. You turn away and tell a funny story or ask a totally non-related question. 2min later you tease her into going in for the kiss and start soft pushing again for sex. Always be pushing and wait for her to say no - then you start again. This is normal, we all do this. Obviously it can only go for so long until you hit a wall that will not be trespassed that night - you will need to develop a feel for this. Until then, it's fair game. The girl wants you to push it so she can have plausible deniability in case you bang ("Wow, I never do this", "I wasn't expecting us to have sex", etc.).

Lastly, stop sabotaging yourself. Get all of your logistics in order and get condoms. The #1 mistake guys make is push for the bang without logistics - now you're left with a date that spent your time and money, and both you and the chick are frustrated because you didn't have sex. Get your shit together.

Next date is at your place. No excuses. Make her feel good, get some wine into your systems. Keep it light, playful. Don't judge, make her feel at ease. AND THEN FUCKING CRUSH HER LIKE MINCE MEAT!

You can do this, Rex. We believe in you!

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(11-15-2016 03:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  my own ego

Fuck your ego!

You are a 40 year old virgin!

BANG HER !

Your ego will thank you later, trust me!

(11-15-2016 03:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  cockblocking myself

Stop cockblocking yourself!

(11-15-2016 03:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  some fears

What fears?

STDS? Pregnancy? Relationships?

Want to discuss them?

A healthy level of fear is okay.

An irrational level of fear, which is not supported by data is... Irrational

(11-15-2016 03:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I feel good about getting closer.

You've done great!

(11-15-2016 03:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  And the Seinfeld thing really was happening, too. That story was probably based on some real life experience.

She looks better in dim lighting..

She looks better when you are drunk..

So, get drunk, turn the lights down and fuck the shit out of her!

It's time!
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Quote:You are a 40 year old virgin!

No, not a virgin. But I guess I might as well be, with a 20 year long dryspell.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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(11-15-2016 04:00 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  She looks better in dim lighting..

She looks better when you are drunk..

So, get drunk, turn the lights down and fuck the shit out of her!

It's time!

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(11-14-2016 04:56 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  Epic thread question.

What page will Rex get laid on?

I got page 20.

I say it will either be much sooner than that or not at all.
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(11-15-2016 04:16 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 04:56 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  Epic thread question.

What page will Rex get laid on?

I got page 20.

I say it will either be much sooner than that or not at all.

If it doesn't happen within the next 2 dates, It's not going to happen!!Undecided
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(11-15-2016 04:20 PM)dark_g Wrote:  
(11-15-2016 04:16 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 04:56 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  Epic thread question.

What page will Rex get laid on?

I got page 20.

I say it will either be much sooner than that or not at all.

If it doesn't happen within the next 2 dates, It's not going to happen!!Undecided

Exactly and at the risk of sounding very pessimistic, if it doesn't happen with this girl, it won't happen with another one anytime soon.

Edit: Is El Mech still posting? I think he could be very helpful in this thread. Maybe he got bored not being to smack McQueen around anymore.
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Quote:cumming as soon as she started stroking your dick


I've done that in the past when a girl grabbed it by surprise. Actually my concern this time was that I was not as hard as I would have liked.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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