Post: #26

(07-21-2016 04:45 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  You can get a bus from just about any major city in Ohio to Pittsburgh, and Amtrak from Pburgh to any Northeast city is a very scenic ride and there are usually last minute seats available; I've done Columbus to NYC that way several years ago.

The trip takes the better part of 16 hours, but it's reasonably priced and not at all unpleasant. All Aboard America!

A woman would be frantically trying to figure out how many hundreds of dollars it would cost to get an Uber to Cleveland, and enlisting a crack social media squad to hunt for last minute Orbitz deals on JetBlue and at least three star hotels. If the situation was reversed you could be sipping a brew in the bar car and halfway home before she got it all figured out...

I certainly wouldn't consider buying a seat on an Amtrak as a way to get home in an emergency. Amtrak is fucking expensive, even for mere coach. That's more like taking a pleasure ride than simply "trying to get home."

Post: #27

Dine and dash is butthurt beta behavior. You know the waitress/bartender gets totally screwed if she can't pay, right? The poster at the 4 Seasons had it right, pay for your drink and a very nice tip for the waitress and bounce, show you have class. Now the waitress is your ally in the future, she'll remember you. I know not everyone has worked in food service [or seen Reservoir Dogs famous opening] but these people live on their tips generally.

I have never heard of one of these lizards bringing 3-4 friends out with them, that's amazing. I guess I would tell her to come with me to another venue and if she balked I'd leave immediately. And if she did you know she's dtf.


Recently, I was with 3 friends at a popular club and we drank a lot over several hours. We accidentally left without paying because we all thought the other guy had paid, were drunk as hell, and waitress didn't bring a bill to anyone.
Next morning I get a msg from the host, he must have had my cell from before since I go there 1-2x a year. He said, not in an accusing tone, that we had simply forgotten to pay, and the the poor girl was on the hook [after all she could be scamming the club.] I asked for the total and it was like $1375, so I gave him my card and he charged me.

Not because I'm a hero, I'm not. Because it was the right thing to do.

The guy was so happy at the resolution, and I'm sure expected an argument or never getting called back. Next time we go, he's said he's giving us the best table and comping our first bottle. And I bet he & the waitress will tell the hottest chicks in the club to hang with us.

Post: #28

Not Dine and Dash specifically.

When the bill used to arrive, I would look them deadpan in the face and say "You get this one, I got the next".

I would say 2/5 would oblige or simply say 'no problem'.

They were also same age group if not older.

I used to do it for self-amusement but it actually worked quite a few times.

Generally though, I will just put cash on the table for my part or put my own part on the card, if their company was shitty.

Otherwise, I get it, I anticipate it already.

I stopped doing dinner with chicks I am not banging though as dinner is something I would like to share with someone I am really interested in getting to know.

I do the same with drinks, you get this round, I get the next.

It qualifies and buys some time (bitches wanna get their full value).

If their company sucks, I'll do a shot and part ways. I always got shit to do.

I have however gone to the movies and left halfway, saying I am going to the toilet.

My buddies and myself have our own WhatsApp group and will fake calls if required to get out of shitty situations.

I am very anal with my time.

This was all until last year.

Now with my girlfriend, we split most of the times but when not, I get the bill.

She always buys me stuff though which I appreciate. She knows I am picky and practical with gifts so she buys me stuff such as:

- electric drill
- slowcooker because I am lazy
- gym backpack

She calls them pink jobs and blue jobs.

She knows I will get the bill if not split; On the flipside, she cooks for me always and does my laundry amongst other 'pink jobs'.

Went on a bit of a tangent on the relationship side which isn't really relevant.

Long story short, I keep shit dutch. Make them work for that meal.

I generally am generous with my friends (male and female though) and in my culture, it's a very 'hosting', today me tomorrow you exchange.

NB: No US chicks involved in the above. Haven't actually bothered as I banged the US girls independently (club bounce).

Post: #29

(07-21-2016 07:16 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 05:52 PM)Suits Wrote:  I make it my mission do whatever it takes to fuck her (via legal means) and until I've recovered my outlay.

You knew this was coming.

So what's the notch worth?

WIA

You'd have to ask a woman. Because considering the extra trouble some of them go through to avoid having sex, you'd almost think that to them, giving up the pussy to a new guy is some sort of costly affair.

When a give attempts to leverage her pussy (by fully expecting that she'll get a free meal just for having one), I make it my mission to take this one piece of leverage away from her so that we can engage on a level play field and she can enjoy a few moments of reality.

You can be sure that I avoid anything more than the most minimal financial outlay in the process.

I have a rule when it comes to dating: the second date is always dinner at my place. I will not take her out to dinner a second time until I've fucked her.

If she's not cool with this, I'll keep her number and occasionally text her invites to a party that I'm having whether she comes or not.

I've banged a lot of girls that I assumed were lost causes without violating this rule.

I've only banged one girl by ignoring this rule and that ended up being hardly worth it. Six months of games.

Post: #30

I haven't done this for years, but it looks like I was always doing it wrong.

I always thought 'Dine and Dash' was something you did with the girl, not to the girl.

You get to be co-conspirators, sharing your wicked plan together, quietly figuring out the best way to do it, encouraging her to lie with a straight face. Private world + thrilling rush = intimacy forged.

Maybe I just dated too many Commie Chicks in Uni. Then again, girls were much skinnier back then, so could run, even in Doc Martens.

I'd never do it now. I'd feel sorry for the staff.

Post: #31

(07-21-2016 09:29 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I certainly wouldn't consider buying a seat on an Amtrak as a way to get home in an emergency. Amtrak is fucking expensive, even for mere coach. That's more like taking a pleasure ride than simply "trying to get home."

If you were to leave tomorrow from Pittsburgh to NYC, a single coach seat is $72, one way, vs ~40 something one way for the bus.

Post: #32

(07-22-2016 02:13 AM)Noir Wrote:  My buddies and myself have our own WhatsApp group and will fake calls if required to get out of shitty situations.

I am very anal with my time.

That seems like a lot of effort to maintain. Ever just tried going direct when a date isn't panning out?

"Hey, thanks for coming out, but I don't see this going anywhere. Nice meeting you, have a good night." You were paying cash for your drinks, right?

I mean, unless you're hoping she's going to come around if she thinks you're a big time important man with stuff to do. Which in my experience seems unlikely. I just want to move out to somewhere else I want to be as rapidly as possible.

Post: #33

Yes Ive done it. Years ago when I first moved to CA I went out on a first date to dinner (yes...I admit I too once was a first date chode) with this really attractive blond. We're like half an hour into it at the restaurant and after ordering the lobster she says (I'll never forget it):

AB "Wow, I'm really having a good time. Aren't you?"

PT "Why yes I am too"

AB "Ok mind if I ask you something?"

PT "sure"

AB "If this continues to go well would you mind providing my father a finanical statement?"



PT "Uhhhh...Huh?"

AB "Yes it's just that if we're going to get serious then my father will have to approve and we might sa well get that out of the way..right?"



PT "Uhhhh...yeah" (is what I said but what I was thinking was..."This money hungry cunt is either nuts, or evil or both")

So a little while later as I chewed my food and chewed on this development I grew angrier and angrier. Then



PT "Waiter can we get a bottle of Dom and yes we would like the dessert menu"

We proceed to finish dinner, the champagne and then order the dessert. Before the dessert arrives I excuse myself to go to the restroom. I get up and instead of going to the pisser my full belly, my buzz and I all head out the door without looking back. As soon as Im outside I busted out laughing. I've always imagined that daddy had to come rescue his little princess

Post: #34

(07-22-2016 01:30 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Yes Ive done it. Years ago when I first moved to CA I went out on a first date to dinner (yes...I admit I too once was a first date chode) with this really attractive blond. We're like half an hour into it at the restaurant and after ordering the lobster she says (I'll never forget it):

I don't think there's any shame in being a "dinner date" first date chode if it happened years ago. When I was in my early 20s (around 17 years ago at this point) I didn't know any better and that's often what I did.

The difference is back in the day it often worked out just fine anyway. A girl had to really be into you to even sign on for such an evening, even young girls.

Social media changed all that, I think. Now they're trying to field everybody for what they got.

Post: #35

(07-22-2016 01:30 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  snip

That was so satisfying to read, I don't even think I'll need to jerk off today.

Post: #36

(07-21-2016 04:52 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 03:52 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I was texted an invite to the Four Seasons hotel lounge by a woman I knew casually and walked in to see her with about five post wall 40+ professional Boston next husband hunters (Gold Diggers on Steroids more like Gold Miners) - they all had cocktails in their hands and had been there for an hour - was not interested in any of them so finished one Grey Goose Martini - Four Seasons price $20 plus tax - so I got up dropped a $50 in the middle of the table said it was nice to meet you ladies and walked out ... they all had this stunned look when it became obvious they were all going to have to dig into their purses to pay for their share of the exorbitant bill that was about to come to them.

Deleted the woman's number for being a manipulative coont and setting me up in such a blatant manner.

Not sure if I´m following here, but you were about to meet a woman for drinks, she is already there with five others drinking and you pay 50$, more than the price of two drinks and consider it victory? For me the options would be get out immediately or stay friendly, pay my own drink and then leave. But to still pay more then one very expensive drink after such a setup does not exactly look like a job well done to me... Also what guy in the world would pay over a 100$ for five drinks of women he just met?

It's like this, I thought she was by herself and she surprised me with these extra wall banglers who had already banged down at least $250 in drinks and snacks and I did not know she was with a gaggle off her high-end guzzlers looking for a chump suckah to pick up the entire tab...

So by dropping a $50 in front of the hot young server who I mentioned the extra was a tip for her so I did not get a bad rep in the most upscale place in town... or worse accused of skipping out on a tab. I also said to the server on the way out the ladies were there long before me and would be picking up their own tab.

Moral of the story - text them and control the meet-up venue, not the other way round... almost nothing good ever happens if they control the venue or anything else for that matter. When banglers invite you to any venue they are trying to use you as a mobile ATM... It's the nature of City women. Live and learn.

Did not really consider it a Victory - more like just dodging a bullet.

Post: #37

^^Curios as to what made you think you'd be responsible for everyone else's drinks. If they'd been there for an hour before, they likely had their own tabs.

Post: #38

Nothing too expensive but I've had the last 3 dates pay for the after drinks takeaway (Pizza and subway) and all of them said "you can get the next one". I never saw them again.

Post: #39

(07-22-2016 04:42 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  ^^Curios as to what made you think you'd be responsible for everyone else's drinks. If they'd been there for an hour before, they likely had their own tabs.

Spidy senses... LOL at 5 star venues they do not bring you your tab until the end of your evening and then one bill discreetly in a bill folio to whoever looks like the Businessman or Woman who invited everyone else - this was in a seated lounge area not standing at the bar - this is a classic move of Cynical Slick City Women, multiple past similar experiences and the more expensive the place the more likely comments like "nice to have a gentlemen here who knows how to treat ladies"... well real ladies are rare and so... however 5 tipsy Wall Banglers on the way to sloshed running up a big booze bill while next ex-husband hunting ... does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure out a blatant male mobile ATM setup. If I would have wanted one of the ladies for the night or longer I would have whispered in her ear - take care of your share of the tab and we will bounce, next round is on me... and bounced for logistics, isolated, mixed some cocktails and escalated.

Post: #40

(07-21-2016 08:00 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Quote of me in "The Ukraine thread":

Soup, first course, second course, drink, second drink... I gave them a warning:

- "you girls sure eat a lot"
- "we are girls, we have to eat" (my friends friend)
- "you must be joking right, I have had a russian girlfriend for quite some time and never saw her eating like that"

That's the sort of shaming usually only gold digging women can come up with.

They must have had the shock of their lives on that "date". A truly masterful frame.

Post: #41

(07-23-2016 01:55 AM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 08:00 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Quote of me in "The Ukraine thread":

Soup, first course, second course, drink, second drink... I gave them a warning:

- "you girls sure eat a lot"
- "we are girls, we have to eat" (my friends friend)
- "you must be joking right, I have had a russian girlfriend for quite some time and never saw her eating like that"

That's the sort of shaming usually only gold digging women can come up with.

They must have had the shock of their lives on that "date". A truly masterful frame.

I use to say that I am like an expensive slut

Post: #42

I never "dine & dash"ed, because I think it is a butthurt behavior. However if the chick is unpleasant or there's no vibe, I'll inform her that we'll be splitting the bill. Dashing can cause problems, as the employees can be held responsible if she cannot afford the bill. Anyway I usually split 50/50 unless I already got something from her. For example, last week I invited 2 of my harem plates to a rooftop restaurant, bill around $500 and I paid the 2 times, because they are my best plates and never deny me sex. It goes both ways. If I still didn't bang the girl, I will do a split.

Post: #43

(07-23-2016 11:05 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  I never "dine & dash"ed, because I think it is a butthurt behavior. However if the chick is unpleasant or there's no vibe, I'll inform her that we'll be splitting the bill. Dashing can cause problems, as the employees can be held responsible if she cannot afford the bill. Anyway I usually split 50/50 unless I already got something from her. For example, last week I invited 2 of my harem plates to a rooftop restaurant, bill around $500 and I paid the 2 times, because they are my best plates and never deny me sex. It goes both ways. If I still didn't bang the girl, I will do a split.

^ What do you do for a living?

I have never dashed before but if I'm not feeling a chick I will go for the split. Some of these girls out here are just serial dating to get free stuff. I really hate when a girl says she really wants to go to this or that restaurant. If you do then go out and buy your own meal.

For me it has come to the point where I don't even take chicks out to eat anymore. They think they can just order anything and not even have to worry about paying. It must be nice being able to do that. This bit me in the butt 2x this year. 2 dates with 2 hb9. They wanted to go to Houston's and Pappadeux respectively. Both dates cost over 100$ and I didn't even bang. Matter a fact after both dates I rarely even heard from the chicks.

So for me, I'll save dinner dates to chicks that I actually like and have had sex with. Until then I'll just do drinks. If a girl asks me about eating out I just tell them I don't eat out.

Post: #44

Exactly... a $50 no big deal in the city for cocktails... my point was it was not a victory... more like dodged bullets on several levels... a cautionary tale no matter how street wise you may be city banglers inventing new ways to best you all the time especially with what started as a simple text.

Post: #45

(07-22-2016 04:42 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  ^^Curios as to what made you think you'd be responsible for everyone else's drinks. If they'd been there for an hour before, they likely had their own tabs.

There's nothing stopping these hoes from "shaming" you, they'll expect you to "merge" all the tabs because you're a gentleman.....whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean.

Post: #46

(07-21-2016 08:00 PM)Rocha Wrote:  The look in the girls faces was priceless...perhaps one third of their monthly income spent on that meal (1500 grv or more each).

Xmoki xmoki, poka, do svydanya.... Girls left destroyed finishing their dessert...

In FSU you fuck or you get fucked, I was not going to get fucked by those broads.

I enjoyed reading this. Fucking savage.

Post: #47

Not a dine and dash but same concept so will post here. More like "fly and ditch".

Situation - took a young lady 10 years my junior to a very expensive destination wedding in LA. I banged her out on Fri but she was annoying as shit all day Sat, including during the wedding. Left the wedding early because she was "hung over", which was an embarrassment. First thing Sun morning I texted my assistant - "unbundle our upgrades". She's like "seriously?" "Yes, and not only that, but put her in a middle seat and keep me in 1st class". My assistant had a thing for me at the time so was almost giddy executing my instructions. It was a rather nice moment seeing her walk by me in 1st class while I was being served my first cocktail of the day.

Post: #48

This thread is mostly stories about first / second dates --

Any spectacular dine & dash break-ups of longer term flings?

i.e. "Fuck this" + walk-out + [optional spill your drink on the table] + throw down ~50% in cash to keep it classy + never contact again

... on a 6+ month fling?

Post: #49

This doesn't seem to happen much anymore, but I used to sometimes get this type of situation:

1. Talk to girls (at bar I have locked down), be social, they're flirting with me, they're ordering drinks, I'm ordering drinks for myself.

2. See another group of friends or need to leave (because it's not really going anywhere with the girls or I'm not actually single at the time). Close out my tab by handing them my card (if I'm paying with card).

3. Server goes, "are those girls with you?" My reaction:

   

4. I get my bill, it's heavily discounted, it has none of their bullshit drinks. I sign or drop some cash (I almost always tip in cash either way) as the girls get their own bill dropped off and the girls each giving a look like:

   

5. I laugh as I'm walking away. Take me for a sucker, please.

Post: #50

@456

I wish.

6 months into it, most guys are trying to keep it going, or blissfully unaware.

Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

WIA