Post: #26

if you recognize the superiority of the american cheeseburger then you are american.

Post: #27

(07-14-2016 11:00 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  You're a born and raised American who spent the last decade living somewhere else. Don't know why you would think you are Spanish or anything else, especially if you are white.

You know Spanish people are white right?

One of my parents grew up in another country and consider themself American.

Post: #28

I was born in Canada, spent the first 70 years of my life in Canada but for the last few months I've lived in China, Am I Chinese or Canadian?

Post: #29

^Dumb question......few months isnt ten years. Chinese people would never accept you as one of there own but Spain or America will after 10 years.

Post: #30

Wait what? If you speak perfect unaccented Spanish (Catalan?) and look Spanish, how is that anyone in Spain even knows that you're American? You are a man who blends right in. In essence you have the best of both worlds. You can camouflage yourself if needed or standout when you have to.

Post: #31

My mum is from a colonial Spanish (criollo) family and my dad is from our very own autistic hellhole: the Basque Country. That is to say, I cannot answer for Americans, but I feel you, although it is even worse in my case because I am still an expat; when I return, I am considered a tourist. Just fulfil your duties to the fatherland by triggering lefties and you’ll be fine! Trust me on this one; there is no greater pleasure than sending my Podemos cousin the parliamentary seat distribution chart.

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(07-14-2016 02:58 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  I was born in Canada, spent the first 70 years of my life in Canada but for the last few months I've lived in China, Am I Chinese or Canadian?

The difference here is that he has lived in Spain for a considerable portion of time and he appears to be thoroughly Spanish, frankly; he is Spanish by blood, law and residence, which is hardly comparable to that of an Occidental-looking Canadian on an extended holiday in China. He is undoubtedly not a foreigner in Spain.

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(07-14-2016 03:52 PM)Swooper Wrote:  Wait what? If you speak perfect unaccented Spanish (Catalan?) and look Spanish, how is that anyone in Spain even knows that you're American? You are a man who blends right in. In essence you have the best of both worlds. You can camouflage yourself if needed or standout when you have to.

Speaking from personal experience, it isn’t strangers insinuating one is foreigner; rather, it’s one’s social circle. One’s local friends and relatives are the ones that perceive one differently, not the cute waitress at the nearby university café.

«Se trata de escoger entre la dictadura que viene de abajo, y la dictadura que viene de arriba: yo escojo la que viene de arriba, porque viene de regiones más limpias y serenas; se trata de escoger, por último, entre la dictadura del puñal y la dictadura del sable: yo escojo la dictadura del sable, porque es más noble». ― Donoso Cortés

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Post: #32

If there were a war between the two countries for who would you fight for?

Post: #33

We can set that one up again, and this time we get to keep Cuba for good.

Post: #34

Are you talking about random people on the street? If you can speak with a native accent, how can they tell you're American if you look like them?

Post: #35

(07-14-2016 07:14 PM)911 Wrote:  We can set that one up again, and this time we get to keep Cuba for good.

Not if Capt Villaamil attacks New York instead of being forced by the navy ministry into virtual suicide off the coast of Santiago de Cuba.

«Se trata de escoger entre la dictadura que viene de abajo, y la dictadura que viene de arriba: yo escojo la que viene de arriba, porque viene de regiones más limpias y serenas; se trata de escoger, por último, entre la dictadura del puñal y la dictadura del sable: yo escojo la dictadura del sable, porque es más noble». ― Donoso Cortés

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Post: #36

(07-14-2016 07:39 PM)Gótico Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 07:14 PM)911 Wrote:  We can set that one up again, and this time we get to keep Cuba for good.

Not if Capt Villaamil attacks New York instead of being forced by the navy ministry into virtual suicide off the coast of Santiago de Cuba.

I like the US Navy's chances in that one.

In fact, I think we'll have the Canaries as well. Tenerife seems nice.

Post: #37

(07-14-2016 03:52 PM)Swooper Wrote:  Wait what? If you speak perfect unaccented Spanish (Catalan?) and look Spanish, how is that anyone in Spain even knows that you're American? You are a man who blends right in. In essence you have the best of both worlds. You can camouflage yourself if needed or standout when you have to.

They don't know from looking at me or listening to me, but whenever they find out I was born in the US, then I automatically become "el americano". I agree with you and have used that to my advantage -- the "camouflage" part.

Post: #38

(07-14-2016 07:07 PM)Gótico Wrote:  

My mum is from a colonial Spanish (criollo) family and my dad is from our very own autistic hellhole: the Basque Country. That is to say, I cannot answer for Americans, but I feel you, although it is even worse in my case because I am still an expat; when I return, I am considered a tourist. Just fulfil your duties to the fatherland by triggering lefties and you’ll be fine! Trust me on this one; there is no greater pleasure than sending my Podemos cousin the parliamentary seat distribution chart.

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(07-14-2016 02:58 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  I was born in Canada, spent the first 70 years of my life in Canada but for the last few months I've lived in China, Am I Chinese or Canadian?

The difference here is that he has lived in Spain for a considerable portion of time and he appears to be thoroughly Spanish, frankly; he is Spanish by blood, law and residence, which is hardly comparable to that of an Occidental-looking Canadian on an extended holiday in China. He is undoubtedly not a foreigner in Spain.

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(07-14-2016 03:52 PM)Swooper Wrote:  Wait what? If you speak perfect unaccented Spanish (Catalan?) and look Spanish, how is that anyone in Spain even knows that you're American? You are a man who blends right in. In essence you have the best of both worlds. You can camouflage yourself if needed or standout when you have to.

Speaking from personal experience, it isn’t strangers insinuating one is foreigner; rather, it’s one’s social circle. One’s local friends and relatives are the ones that perceive one differently, not the cute waitress at the nearby university café.

Exactly -- it happens especially when you meet people or within family/social circles...not randomly walking down the street.

The other REALLY ODD one I get ALWAYS is this:

"oh I didn't know your parents were from Spain. Ok..."

20 seconds later:

"Wow...but your Spanish is PERFECT!!"

No kidding? One would think that if your parents taught you the language since you were born, you could speak it perfectly...but apparently it seems like a difficult concept for many people to grasp in Spain. I like Spain but I find the "intellectual level" is quite low.

Post: #39

> No kidding? One would think that if your parents taught you the language since you were born, you could speak it perfectly...but apparently it seems like a difficult concept for many people to grasp in Spain. I like Spain but I find the "intellectual level" is quite low.

This seems to be a thing that's general for Europe, I know a lot of similar examples in Sweden for example. At least here in Spain my Spanish will always give me away as a guiri

Post: #40

(07-14-2016 02:41 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 02:18 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  Before it became cool to be different (meaning American nationality progressively got diminished by globalists breaking down our culture and letting 3rd worlders in who are more tribal), everyone knew they were "American."

Now, because of the anti-American bias and cultural change, children of 1st generation immigrants are confused. He's just another one of them.

Of course he's American.

A black person in the States (a descendant of the slave trade) is an AMERICAN, there's nothing African about him. Using that term is as stupid as any other - (dash).

Admitting it is just being mature about reality.

Interesting. I agree with you on this...we have been taught to hyphenate our identities. In Europe it doesn't happen as often. For Europeans, if you were born and raised in the US, you are "American" no matter if you even speak their own languages like a "native".

My specialty is American identity over the years, especially the more recent immigrant thing with kids that I allude to. My forefathers came around the turn of the century, and even into the 50s and 60s all of our immigrants were proud to be American (that's why they came, to get away form shady old country shit). My grandparents were born here, but they were of families (siblings) where not everyone was. Beyond that, they had a strong (Mediterranean) cultural heritage. That has persisted in many ways, but the difference was astounding back then: My grandfather changed or shortened his first and last name in order to be more suitable to American culture and fit in. [/i]The ego and arrogance of modern immigrants would never allow for this.[i]

When non-christian and specifically non-european peoples (read: far more tribal 3rd worlders) starting coming en masse, their insistence on changing and adapting led to the modern diversity bullshit spearheaded by ... liberal, idiot (rebellious) people of european heritage. Why? They are driven by chaos and the class, identify politics chasm, from which they saw in the future they would derive much pleasure and votes ...

It's pathetic.

Post: #41

I was born in Mexico and that's it...
I'm as American as the red hat on Bruce's Springsteen ass!

FDR put it in better words:

In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant
who comes here in good faith becomes an American
and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality
with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate
against any such man because of creed, or birthplace of origin.
But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American
and nothing but an American... There can be no divided allegiance here.
Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.
We have room for but one flag, the American flag...
We have room for but one language here,
and that is the English language...
and we have room for but one sole loyalty
and that is a loyalty to the American people.