Post: #1

Are there other guys who think this way?

You are not looking to get married but you want to carry over your genes.

What I mean by that is have kids but without any (or the minimum) requirements.
For example, knocking up a foreign girl and either contributing money monthly or not.

To take it further; it's an extension to the flag method of sleeping with girls from different countries. In this case, knock up a latina, filipina, etc.

The reason i ask this is because I am really thinking hard about getting a vasectomy.

What are your thoughts on this?

Post: #2

This is exactly what the world needs: More dead beat dads and single mothers.

Is this serious?

Post: #3

Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this.

You can keep your shaming to someone else.

(04-30-2016 10:00 PM)Cruisen_Chubby Wrote:  This is exactly what the world needs: More dead beat dads and single mothers.

Is this serious?

Post: #4

(04-30-2016 10:03 PM)nonconformist Wrote:  Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this.

You can keep your shaming to someone else.

(04-30-2016 10:00 PM)Cruisen_Chubby Wrote:  This is exactly what the world needs: More dead beat dads and single mothers.

Is this serious?

Don't use the word shaming - that is what fat SJWs with purple hair use. That word has been popping up lately a lot lately, are we getting that many sensitive members lately?

You could have just said, "Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this."

And let it be.

Post: #5

I did say that. But the first person that replied clearly didn't read my post because they focused on just one part of it.

(04-30-2016 10:06 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 10:03 PM)nonconformist Wrote:  Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this.

You can keep your shaming to someone else.

(04-30-2016 10:00 PM)Cruisen_Chubby Wrote:  This is exactly what the world needs: More dead beat dads and single mothers.

Is this serious?

Don't use the word shaming - that is what fat SJWs with purple hair use. That word has been popping up lately a lot lately, are we getting that many sensitive members lately?

You could have just said, "Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this."

And let it be.

Post: #6

Woah...
Please don't tour my country.

Shit is fucked as it already is.

Post: #7

Uh, I'm not sure what you're asking ....

You want to travel around and father children that you will then do the minimum to support OR you're gonna get a vasectomy??? HUH? You do realize that these are opposites, right???

As for "scoring" by fathering kids in third world countries then doing the minimum, that's reprehensible! Your genes are not such a blessing that any child should be doomed to grow up without a father just to get them. If you're going to procreate, then suck it up and be a father.

As for getting a vasectomy, because of my absolute abhorrence of non-involved dads, I'm a big fan. After I'd had my kids, within weeks of the second delivery, I got it done. Virtually no pain and now, no worrying about a "mistake." Highly recommended.

Was there something else you were really asking about???

Post: #8

(04-30-2016 10:03 PM)nonconformist Wrote:  Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this.

You can keep your shaming to someone else.

You asked for people's opinions. You got it. You don't get to complain about shaming just because opinions differ from yours. Or because they choose to focus on one aspect of it. This "you're shaming" argument is not a valid argument. If you think they're wrong, say why you think they're wrong.

Deliberately dooming a child to grow up without a father is absolutely reprehensible.

Getting a vasectomy is a good idea if you're 100% sure that you don't want more kids. It can be reversible and there are options to freeze your sperm. But both options cost some money and there's no guarantee that the operation can be reversed.

Post: #9

Apart from being unbelievably selfish for one thing, what would you hope to gain from it apart from getting to bareback a chick, but then its just as easy to get her on the pill. No point spreading your seed all over the place if you have know control over who they will become. How old are you? obviously you have not thought this through properly

Post: #10

You have the right to your opinion, but we also do, so let me express mine on the topic.

You must be a basement-dwelling kid to think that way, or a moron, or both. We do not need more single mothers. If you plan to knock up a girl and leave her, you'd better use condoms or vasectomy and not knock anyone.

There are enough beautiful girls that will never be able to get married because a random babydaddy knocked them up, bringing another bastard to this world, and turning a marriageable girl into a broken single mom.

If your "genes" make you think that way, then I suggest you do not pass them at all.

If you are a teenager and later, you realize the importance of making a family with the right person, then I encourage you to get married with a feminine girl and get kids.

And remember, once you have kids with a girl, it's too late to go back. You stay until the end.

Post: #11

well the other question or perhaps hesitation I have is getting a vasectomy but then realizing 5 0r more years later something changes and I actually want kids. The feeling of regret you know?

(05-01-2016 01:28 AM)kinnikinik Wrote:  Uh, I'm not sure what you're asking ....

You want to travel around and father children that you will then do the minimum to support OR you're gonna get a vasectomy??? HUH? You do realize that these are opposites, right???

As for "scoring" by fathering kids in third world countries then doing the minimum, that's reprehensible! Your genes are not such a blessing that any child should be doomed to grow up without a father just to get them. If you're going to procreate, then suck it up and be a father.

As for getting a vasectomy, because of my absolute abhorrence of non-involved dads, I'm a big fan. After I'd had my kids, within weeks of the second delivery, I got it done. Virtually no pain and now, no worrying about a "mistake." Highly recommended.

Was there something else you were really asking about???

Post: #12

Vasectomies can be reversed. Sometimes.

Better bet might be to wait on that "male birth control pill" we've been promised for years. If it ever arrives, that will be a gamechanger.

Post: #13

You can always have your sperm frozen and use it down the line if you want to have kids.

If your goal is to have kids with a bunch of girls from different countries I suggest you don't have kids at all. That is unless you mature and change your outlook by the time you have kids.

You can't just throw money at kids and expect them to be raised properly. They are a commitment, they need a lot of discipline and they take the most valuable resource. Time. That's what it takes to raise them properly.

If you just throw money at them, you will have some sluts for daughters and either criminals, pussies or fags for sons.

Post: #14

I can understand the desire to have a family (or more) in a foreign country where you won't be there all the time. Why wouldn't one be there all time?

1) You need to go back home to work for a few months and make money/checkup on your investments.

2) You like to travel and explore different countries.

3) You don't particularly enjoy the climate/culture 24/7/365 and it's not an option to uproot your new family away from their extended local family.

4) You're psychologically wired such that you always need your space, more so than others.

Realologist makes a great point though. If you just spread your seed to the wind and throw with it some money for food and shelter, you most likely won't be happy with the end result. Unlike a Mother's love, where the child just needs to exist, a Father's love for his child is based on "merit" and "character". His child must earn his love through their actions and carrying his principals and ideals forward into the world.

Just having them look like you will not be enough for you to feel the satisfaction and fulfillment that comes with Fatherhood.

Post: #15

Two words: sperm bank.

Post: #16

The other thing is if you want a vasectomy, so you want to randomly impregnate women so you don't have the regret later, but then it sounds like you will have little relationship with your kids.

So what is the point? An ego thing?

How will your ego feel knowing it brought fucked up kids into the world?

A desperate woman wanting your kid hoping to get out of the tough situation she is in, probably isn't a good decision maker. Poor decision maker with child = usually a fucked up child.

I hope you are not a johnbozzzz alt account.

Post: #17

I don't see what makes your genes so special. The world is already over-populated.

Post: #18

(05-01-2016 07:20 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  We do not need more single mothers

I guess it depends on whether those chicks were going to become single mothers anyway. In the Philippines, for example, child support laws are weak and birth control is discouraged, so it's common for women to have kids with a local guy who then runs off. The mother's extended family will then usually assist in raising the child. But these women would typically prefer to have kids with a white guy, even if he also runs off, since it's better in their eyes to have a beautiful bastard child than an ugly one.

However, I would say that if you're an American guy looking to impregnate a foreign woman and run off, you should at least help her out with getting the kid a Consular Report of Birth Abroad so that he can someday exercise his birthright to come to the U.S. The problem is that many foreign women open to the idea of having a mixed-race bastard child will not want the kid to ever learn the identity of his father, lest he leave to try to go be with him. Therefore, they will sometimes not even tell you that they conceived and had a kid (although offering to support the kid, as the OP suggested, might induce them to cooperate). Their selfishness in that regard is similar to the selfishness of American women who will use the court system to keep their kid's father from playing any kind of paternal role.

The idea of knocking up a bunch of foreign women sounds cool but personally, I'd rather keep the women around polygynously as my wives and my kids' mothers, instead of ditching them and paying them a bunch of money while they're probably screwing some other guy. I'd probably have to move to a Muslim country to have that kind of family, though.

Post: #19

(04-30-2016 09:52 PM)nonconformist Wrote:  The reason i ask this is because I am really thinking hard about getting a vasectomy.

What are your thoughts on this?

Post: #20

Please do

Post: #21

(05-01-2016 12:55 PM)RaymondKertezc Wrote:  The idea of knocking up a bunch of foreign women sounds cool but personally, I'd rather keep the women around polygynously as my wives and my kids' mothers, instead of ditching them and paying them a bunch of money while they're probably screwing some other guy. I'd probably have to move to a Muslim country to have that kind of family, though.

I think you could do this in the Philippines if you framed it right and set the expectations with women from the beginning. You just can't marry them. Some will be on board with the idea if it's going to give them a better life. How long that will last before jealousy and drama seeps in?

I don't know, but it's got me curious. Rent a big house with land and just have your live-in harem. Actually you would need at least two houses. The main house is nicer and for the girls/kids you enjoy the most and the other houses are for the other girls.

If you need to expand make sure your land is large enough to build more houses.

Ahhh...my polygamous fantasies are starting to run away with me.

Post: #22

(04-30-2016 10:03 PM)nonconformist Wrote:  Yes I am serious. I am thinking out loud and want to see what others have to say about this.

You can keep your shaming to someone else.

(04-30-2016 10:00 PM)Cruisen_Chubby Wrote:  This is exactly what the world needs: More dead beat dads and single mothers.

Is this serious?

We do seem to have a preponderance of guys not being happy with the advice they receive lately. Not only are they not happy with what they get told, they then become highly offended and then state that they don't want to be "shamed". OP if you take nothing else out of this thread ( and decide that your plan to knock up a bunch of women in 3rd world countries is a wise one) understand that yeah you are being shamed. So fucking what. Deal with it. Your idea is stupid on so many levels and I'm glad to see you being shamed for it, it's totally deserved. You can decide to man up a little and reconsider your idea or you can do what most guys your age do which is to retreat to a safe space and whine about how you were being shamed.

If more guys and girls were being shamed into behaving more like adults and less like spoiled children, we could start to reverse the mess we have in this country. Instead we're supposed to cheerlead for whatever stupid things people want to do these days. To do otherwise would be shaming and lord knows to shame is unacceptable. Did I use the word shame enough OP?

Post: #23

OP - have a good think about what your plan is, and google "morals".

HTH

Post: #24

Don't do the minimum. Fly to the Philippines at least a couple times a year and visit your girlfriend and kids. Save up enough first to completely fund their life too. Buy them a place and food and utilities. "Dad is traveling on business" the rest of the year.

Post: #25

I prefer a traditional stay at home house wife. But that didn't happen. Gotta think of other options now.