Post: #451

(10-23-2018 02:28 PM)rotekz Wrote:  [quote='Bacchus' pid='1873628' dateline='1540262843']
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I prefer the approach of cutting off the money supply and utterly ruining the logistics. And other indirect approaches.

The sinews of war are infinite money. - Marcus Tullius Cicero

They don't get to do this without substantial support. Plus it will look better and starve the propaganda of their needed "atrocities''.

Also since NGO's and other subversive elements are connected to the caravan perhaps it can be used to trace it back to those elements so that those can be neutralized.

One doesn't simply go after the pawns. But to strike at the King.

What results in effective victory isn't flashy.


Anyway:

Quote:After doing some investigative work, it can now be revealed that the Pueblos Sin Frontera (People Without Borders/PSF) — the group that organized a caravan back in April — has a track record of links with the international Quaker movement, historical Democratic Party donors, U.S. government bureaucrats, and perhaps even a senior Mexican diplomat.

Quote:Their website was updated on December 4, 2012, declaring:

On the first of November, the House welcomed a new partner: APOFAM, (the Popular Assembly of Migrant Families). We are very happy to give you the keys to the famous office in the main courtyard. They will use the House as their office, base of organization and a space for meetings and events.

The group’s links, funding sources, and history are important because they all seem to be linked through one leading activist named Rodrigo Abeja, widely quoted though scarcely investigated by the U.S. media.

Abeja, who appears prominently in shared posts on the APOFAM Facebook page, was quoted by Vice News in 2013, which listed him as one of the group’s key organizers.

From Santo Domingo, Guerrera — 270 miles south of Mexico City — Abeja, APOFAM, and his own organization Pueblos Sin Frontera have long-organized the migrant caravans that have become the left’s outrage-creator du jour.

But these groups are not simply active within Central America. Their reach already penetrates deep into the United States, with local chapters prevalent in Arizona, Texas, California, and as far as New York City, where a recent article detailed how APOFAM members and supporters cheered on as an illegal alien had his ankle tracker removed by a preacher in a central Manhattan church.

Federal Election Commission (FEC) searches also revealed that once-honored members of the Casa de los Amigos Quaker house in Mexico include donors to Democratic Party candidates such as Harry Mitchell, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer and the Democratic National Committee. None of the U.S. supporters of Casa de los Amigos were Republican donors.

Another previously listed staff member of the Quaker house is Bridget Moix, who now serves as the U.S. Senior Representative and Head of Advocacy for an organization called Peace Direct, which in turn is funded in part by the British government’s Big Lottery Fund, as well as the United States Institute for Peace (USIP) which is itself funded by the U.S. federal government.

Moix served as Atrocity Prevention Fellow with the government’s USAID programme in their department of Conflict Management and Mitigation. She has also taught Quaker studies at Haverford College, Columbia University, George Washington University and Eastern Mennonite University.

Her name was listed on the Casa de los Amigos website around the same time as that of Daniel Hernandez Joseph, listed as being from Washington, D.C., and whose profile in migration studies matches that of the current Mexican ambassador to Greece.

Joseph was listed as a Diplomat in Residence at the American University in Washington, D.C., before going on to a series of jobs with the Mexican government, culminating in his current ambassadorship.

While Mexico’s embassy in Greece has not responded to request for comment, the Daniel Hernandez Joseph on the Casa de los Amigos website disappeared in early 2012, just after his resume on their official website lists him taking a job as Consul General of Mexico in Boston.

A thesis written by Joseph in 2007/8 states:

The [migration] policy of the United States [must] be more congruent with the awareness of their own historical responsibility in shaping these challenges, abandoning the vision that the origin of the problems in its territory is completely external, and venturing more into a scheme of cooperation and shared responsibility according to the determination of national public policies.

The wording of the thesis is similar to that of APOFAM’s and PSF’s press releases.

Although Abeja’s anti-Trump Facebook posts – another point not considered by establishment journalists – are more colloquial, the organizations themselves issue professional press statements.

Earlier this year, APOFAM demanded of the “governments of Central America, Mexico, and the United States of America” that “the borders be opened because we are citizens just like the people of the countries we are in and/or travel.”

While major news organizations have failed to cover the well-funded, well-organized, and well-networked nature of these groups and their reach into the United States, some local outlets have given more study to the subject.

The Southwestern College Sun — a student paper — detailed the links between the recently arrested director of PSF, Irineo Mujica, and another group operating from within the U.S. named Border Angels. Enrique Morones, the founder of Border Angels, spoke of his support for PSF. Morones admitted to the San Diego Tribune in 2014 that “[t]hese people do not qualify for visas.”

Border Angels claims it is supported by American businesses such as Ralph’s supermarket chain, the Hermandad Mexicana immigration service, and the state of Sinaloa, one of Mexico’s 32 federal districts

The New Haven Independent also detailed some of the U.S.-based work undertaken by the aforementioned groups, revealing the that:

The Casa de los Amigos, and in the vast expanse of rural and indigenous Mexico, Aprofam congregates ‘communities of origin’ — towns that send a large number of migrants to the U.S. — to navigate the separation of families, the influx of remittances, and a broken immigration system.

The paper trail doesn’t just stop with many of these government, corporate, and Quaker-backed organizations.

In April, The Blaze network reported the link between PSF and a U.S. resident called Alex Mensing, apparently working on behalf of the CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project.

CARA is comprised of two other legal groups: the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Inc. and the American Immigration Council, both of which count George Soros’s Open Society Foundations (OSF) amongst their donors, through OSF, hav e claimed they have nothing directly to do with the latest migrant caravan.

It is worth noting in closing how groups like AFSC, PSF, and dozens of others have long been members of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network (NDLON) based out of Los Angeles, California.

NDLON staff such as Marisa Franco were invitees to the Freedom Road Socialist Organization’s “Defying Trump” conference call on November 15, 2016.

The group — founded in 1985 — is outwardly Marxist-Leninist in its worldview, and counts amongst its allies other ultra-leftist organizations as part of the wider United for Peace and Justice national group.

Far from the grassroots, scarcely organized or funded caravan that many news organizations are suggesting the latest incursion represents, the network of individuals, organizations, and both public and private support for these open borders organizations is robust and widespread.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/23/migra...reaucrats/

Post: #452

There's now reportedly another army marching from El Salvador about 1,500 strong.

I'm suddenly reminded again of the Sea Peoples destroying most of the empires of the bronze age. Of course, back then, there were people like Merneptah and Ramesses III who would actually defend their countries. Egypt was spared from the..."caravans" because of their prompt action.

Post: #453

This reporter says his facebook page is full of messages telling him he wont be safe if he posts this video, but he's doing it anyway. You can jump to 1:25 if you want.





These guys are handing out cash to people as a reward for breaching the Mexican/Guatemalan border. Note the guns. Grainy footage but my wife thinks one of these guys doesn't look latino.

The reporter is apparently claiming that this is being run by some sort of group called the black hand which is supposedly a kind of South American political mafia.

Other reports are claiming that the invaders are being coached to apply for political asylum (refugee status) on the premise that they will have to be processed, so you can expect them to dump all documentation at the border and enter as functional John Does. The plan apparently is that if they get across the border and get put in camps then millions more will follow their footsteps, knowing that they cannot all be kept in those conditions and as soon as a sympathetic administration enters the Whitehouse they will all be disgorged into the streets anyway.

Trump has been thumbing his nose at the UN for a while now.

I suspect that this is the event that will push him to withdraw America from the UN Refugee Convention.

Post: #454

SIAP.

U.S. Trucking company caught hauling "migrant caravan".

https://www.puppetstringnews.com/blog/vi...an-caravan

Post: #455

(10-24-2018 08:49 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

Quote:After doing some investigative work, it can now be revealed that the Pueblos Sin Frontera (People Without Borders/PSF) — the group that organized a caravan back in April — has a track record of links with the international Quaker movement, historical Democratic Party donors, U.S. government bureaucrats, and perhaps even a senior Mexican diplomat.

Every fucking time...

... oh wait, I forgot Jews took Saturday off so a different bunch of money-lending tribal globalists had to step up to the plate.

Post: #456

(10-25-2018 04:50 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  This reporter says his facebook page is full of messages telling him he wont be safe if he posts this video, but he's doing it anyway. You can jump to 1:25 if you want.





These guys are handing out cash to people as a reward for breaching the Mexican/Guatemalan border. Note the guns. Grainy footage but my wife thinks one of these guys doesn't look latino.

The reporter is apparently claiming that this is being run by some sort of group called the black hand which is supposedly a kind of South American political mafia.

Since when do people of poor 3rd world countries line up in an orderly fashion and wait patiently to get cash in their hands from dudes in the street, without a single person cutting in line, pushing, making a group mob, getting in line twice or 3 times over again, or anyone (even a small kid) outright stealing the money from their hands and running off ?

Either this is staged somehow and/or there's more dudes with machine guns ready to kill everyone off camera.

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Post: #458

It actually did take place, but it hasn't been pinned to Soros, nor is it as Rep. Matt Gaetz suggested in his Tweet, which he has retracted (but only because he got the location wrong--he said it was in Honduras--it was actually in Guatemala).

I had looked this up a few days ago and found this on Snopes. On the one hand, they go out of their way to make it sound like it's just "fear-mongering," but if you read the entire article, it does seem to be exactly what it appears to be: NGO's offering logistic support to the caravan.

What's wrong (aside from the obvious) is when people jump to Twitter and they fuck up a fact or two--then the media jumps to discredit the entire account, as if the entire incident never happened.

It wasn't in Honduras. (Okay, so what?) " It was in Guatemala! HA! GOT YOU, YOU STUPID REPUBLICANS!"

I dunno. Click on the article if you're interested to see how it was spun. The Soros clan denies it was them--okay, that's fine. The Rep. said it was people "being paid to join the caravan"--it wasn't, they were already in the caravan.

None of that changes the fact that there are NGO's encouraging and financing these actions.

(Also, gotta agree with the dude above--if you've ever been in this area of the world one must wonder "HOW ON EARTH did they keep this scene from descending into chaos?!?!)

Post: #459

Trump needs to charge these NGOs with inciting and aiding violations of law. Conspiracy.

Post: #460

The guys handing out the cash had guns on them.

Safe to say the people present knew that the money men weren't going to fuck around. By this stage everyone in the horde knows who's who. It's not far fetched to suggest that the MS13 members in tow are on the payroll to keep order.

Post: #461

Mattis is sending troops to the border, but I don't know what they can realistically do.

Post: #462

Once they get in they will lawyer up so the troops are there to keep them from getting in

Post: #463

Mexico has some of the harshest gun laws around. How do these guys flaunt these laws right in front of the Federales and army with no issues.

Post: #464

(10-25-2018 12:20 PM)Hypno Wrote:  Once they get in they will lawyer up so the troops are there to keep them from getting in

How are they going to stop them though?

Post: #465

How many informants do you guys think we have among these caravans? Trump should know everything that is going on.

Post: #466

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/artic...to-border/

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is expected to sign an order as early as Thursday sending 800 or more troops to the southern border to support the Border Patrol, a U.S. official said.

Mattis is responding to a request from President Donald Trump, who says he’s “bringing out the military” to address what he’s calling a national emergency at the border.

The U.S. official was not authorized to speak publicly because not all details of the military arrangement had been worked out, and so spoke on condition of anonymity.

The additional troops are to provide what one official described as logistical support to the Border Patrol.

This would include a variety of things such as vehicles, tents and equipment, and perhaps medical support. It was not immediately clear how many, if any, of the extra troops would be armed.

Because they would not be performing law enforcement duties they would not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role.

There already are about 2,000 National Guard troops assisting at the border under a previous Pentagon arrangement.

800 isn't enough, nor is the additional 2k National Guard. That's not even a 1:1 ratio. We CANNOT let them into the system, they will get through and be released. We CANNOT process every human being south of the border for asylum application. They must be turned back at the Rio Grande, like an invasion force would be, not some humanitarian bleeding heart bullshit.

They're already forming the next caravan down there, if this one gets through it'll never be the end of it.

Post: #467

Unless the soldiers at the US/Mexico border have:

1.
Orders to shoot to kill all those who cross the border illegally...

and/or

2.
Enough prison cells/trucks/boats/airplanes ready now to arrest everyone who crosses the border illegally to detain them and send them back where they came from...


...then Trump will lose this battle.

Post: #468

Check out NBC's profile picture.

Post: #469

(10-25-2018 04:06 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  Unless the soldiers at the US/Mexico border have:

1.
Orders to shoot to kill all those who cross the border illegally...

and/or

2.
Enough prison cells/trucks/boats/airplanes ready now to arrest everyone who crosses the border illegally to detain them and send them back where they came from...


...then Trump will lose this battle.

You might be right, but think about it like this. Trump's not going to be deciding how to handle this on a micro level. He's going to be turning to Mattis (or whoever) and ordering that person to get it done.

If it's Mattis or another one of his competent people, it'll get done.

Have faith, brother. The God Emperor won't let us down.

Post: #470

This is really brazen to attempt child trafficking in the full media glare.

Post: #471

Got a news alert that 5,200 active duty troops (I assume this means non National Guard) are headed for the border.

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Post: #473

Mexico is using these caravans as leverage over the US, the same way Turkey does over the EU with their mideastern migrant waves.

Post: #474

Check this shit out:

Post: #475

^^^Wow. Just wow...Oh sweet summer child....Can't you Trumpkins see the red hats in this video? You do realize these are white supremacist Latinx members of the Proud Boys...let that sink in.

There's a lot to unpack here. Dump's escalation of violent rhetoric has incited this bigoted mob...it's almost as if this video is absolute proof that WALLS DON'T WORK!!!