Post: #26

Alright, then, Champ. It's your town and your party, so I'm sure you know better than I.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #27

*Not 100% serious here, but not 100% not serious either*

Is there online reviews on Yelp/Trip Adviser/etc. for his pub crawl?

Go to UpWork/Fiverr and find some people with fake female profiles from near your area. Write a few reviews accusing the guy of trying to put one of their friends in his car and take her home while she was falling down drunk.

Then screenshot the reviews and send them to the Tumblr/SJW retards in your area pretending to be one of the girls friends and get the bloggers worked up into a frenzy about the "pro rape" pub crawl that is put on to get young girls drunk and take advantage of them.

Post the review screenshots all over local Facebook groups from a fake female profile you buy off Fiverr or somewhere. Send them to his girlfriend and to his mom. If he has a day job send them to his boss.

Post the phone number to his boss publicly/give it to the bloggers to post publicly so people can call and let them know they have a "potential rapist" working for them. Send them to his clients/co-workers.

Put up a website JohnDoeIsAPonentialRapist.com linking to his social media profiles and then send it to all of his Facebook friends and family.

******THIS MAY ALL BE ILLEGAL******* and a lot of work.

It may be best to move on, but I wanted to test out my new found SJW tactics. I think I could ruin an innocent mans life pretty quickly, get them divorced, and maybe even throwin into jail.

Fuckin black belt level achieved lol.

Post: #28

^^


Thats a lot of work but it would definitely be effective. It would probably just be simpler to meet the guy with some buddies. But thats illegal and you shouldn't do that.

If you do decide to do something like what Rio mentioned, keep in mind you're making a lifelong enemy over something relatively small.

Post: #29

OP...you might want to give a few days and see if he actually tries to ban you from clubs before you take any measures.

A few years ago, I got kicked out by some whiteknight owner for "grabbing a girl's ass". I actually just touch her back and introduced myself. I threatened to break his windows while I got kicked out. He threatened to kick me out of a bunch of bars in the city. But in the end, nothing happened, other then the pub crawl you're probably not banned from anything. While I havent been back to that same spot, I've been to other spots the other owns without a problem.

People forget in the bar business pretty fast. I bet everyone has a story where they were too drunk at a bar and ended coming back like 1 month later, though it all depends really.

I like Rionomad's idea if you are kicked out, at that point, what do you have to lose?

Post: #30

RioNomad this is a service which is available on certain websites:

Quote:http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-se...nline.html

No prices because it is all very edgy but I bet doing it is legal. You should probably check with a lawyer.

On the bright side... if your hate can fuel you to learn how to do it for Joe Doe... you could market this service for low to mid five digits, possibly a lot more. And with such a location independent lifestyle you can move out of canada. Maybe this is the best thing that ever happened to you?

EDIT: probably it will all blow over. I remember roosh wrote once about how he made sure to grease the help to prevent this sort of a thing...were you tipping well at that place?

Post: #31

Do you have the organizer's name? We can investigate if he has links to criminal anti-fascist groups in your city. It's possible he has committed illegal acts.

Post: #32

(03-18-2016 11:33 AM)godzilla Wrote:  OP...you might want to give a few days and see if he actually tries to ban you from clubs before you take any measures.

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People forget in the bar business pretty fast. I bet everyone has a story where they were too drunk at a bar and ended coming back like 1 month later, though it all depends really.

I agree. Ignore the guy, give it a few week and just go about your business as normal. Except for never going anywhere near the crawl again of course.

Its likely he was just talking out his ass. For all the white knighting he had a business reputation to protect so I'm not surprised he overreacted.

If you see him out at a club, just ignore him and there's a good chance he'll do the same to you as long as you aren't hitting on 'his' girls on the crawl.

Lastly, reevaluate how you act out in the field. It must have felt good to give that girl a serve, but what did it accomplish in the end? Stay frosty and don't let club rats get under your skin. No good will come from firing off at them, no matter how much they deserve it.

Post: #33

(03-18-2016 11:11 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  *Not 100% serious here, but not 100% not serious either*

Is there online reviews on Yelp/Trip Adviser/etc. for his pub crawl?

Go to UpWork/Fiverr and find some people with fake female profiles from near your area. Write a few reviews accusing the guy of trying to put one of their friends in his car and take her home while she was falling down drunk.

Then screenshot the reviews and send them to the Tumblr/SJW retards in your area pretending to be one of the girls friends and get the bloggers worked up into a frenzy about the "pro rape" pub crawl that is put on to get young girls drunk and take advantage of them.

Post the review screenshots all over local Facebook groups from a fake female profile you buy off Fiverr or somewhere. Send them to his girlfriend and to his mom. If he has a day job send them to his boss.

Post the phone number to his boss publicly/give it to the bloggers to post publicly so people can call and let them know they have a "potential rapist" working for them. Send them to his clients/co-workers.

Put up a website JohnDoeIsAPonentialRapist.com linking to his social media profiles and then send it to all of his Facebook friends and family.

******THIS MAY ALL BE ILLEGAL******* and a lot of work.

It may be best to move on, but I wanted to test out my new found SJW tactics. I think I could ruin an innocent mans life pretty quickly, get them divorced, and maybe even throwin into jail.

Fuckin black belt level achieved lol.

It's defamation for sure and with possible consequences to the guy's business which means big $$$$$ if he litigated it.

Post: #34

Rionomads suggestion is a very bad idea. Things should be completely legal. Exposing yourself civilly will just make the problem worse.

Post: #35

Once this guy quits/is fired can't you go back to those clubs? Or are all the managers of you aware as well?

Post: #36

My first inclination is beat his ass. Of course, he sounds like enough of a pussy to call the cops. Personally, I'd contact a lawyer and argue harassment or defamation.

Post: #37

O.P., lock places down and it's amazing how these types of things cease to happen. I don't completely understand your post either. Were you just banned from the pubcrawl or were you actually banned from the venues where the pubcrawl was taking place, for example, could you just go back to the venue or venues by yourself when a pubcrawl is not taking place?

Post: #38

Can you befriend a few bartenders around the town, be a pretty cool guy and drop a few strategic tips to the right people? Then use that network to find out where that guy is at any one time. If you get called on the false allegation, play it down as exactly that: some girl he's got a crush on got pissed at you for knocking her back and made some shit up to get him to white knight for her. If you're a cool guy they'll buy it.

If he confronts you with his 'gang', don't back down unless the club staff get involved. Either you've got grounds for harassment, or you'll take a punch or two for not retreating. Either way you could make it a legal issue and cost him his job, either for assault (ideally), or harassment.

Sounds like a thirsty guy...if that's the scene in your city I feel sorry for you. 50 guys and 4 girls? Damn.

Post: #39

(03-18-2016 11:45 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Do you have the organizer's name? We can investigate if he has links to criminal anti-fascist groups in your city. It's possible he has committed illegal acts.

I could PM it to you but I strongly doubt that he does.

(03-18-2016 11:55 AM)Speculation Wrote:  Lastly, reevaluate how you act out in the field. It must have felt good to give that girl a serve, but what did it accomplish in the end? Stay frosty and don't let club rats get under your skin. No good will come from firing off at them, no matter how much they deserve it.

You are right about it. The problem is that girls in my city wouldn't do that. My feeling was that only a super entitled american bitch who's used to having white knights on her beck and call would've done that to me.

(03-18-2016 12:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Rionomads suggestion is a very bad idea. Things should be completely legal. Exposing yourself civilly will just make the problem worse.

That's a very effective and elaborate strategy Rionomads, it's a good tool to have if one really needed it but I'm not considering it for now, I don't believe in adding a campaign of hate to my life unless i had no other options.

(03-18-2016 12:14 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  Once this guy quits/is fired can't you go back to those clubs? Or are all the managers of you aware as well?

(03-18-2016 12:25 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  O.P., lock places down and it's amazing how these types of things cease to happen. I don't completely understand your post either. Were you just banned from the pubcrawl or were you actually banned from the venues where the pubcrawl was taking place, for example, could you just go back to the venue or venues by yourself when a pubcrawl is not taking place?

Yes I could go there when it's not taking place and as others have said I have doubts he'll kick me out unless I get in his way/talk to his girls. Still it has the potential of making me and everyone else feel awkward, which sucks.

(03-18-2016 12:32 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  Can you befriend a few bartenders around the town, be a pretty cool guy and drop a few strategic tips to the right people? Then use that network to find out where that guy is at any one time. If you get called on the false allegation, play it down as exactly that: some girl he's got a crush on got pissed at you for knocking her back and made some shit up to get him to white knight for her. If you're a cool guy they'll buy it.

If he confronts you with his 'gang', don't back down unless the club staff get involved. Either you've got grounds for harassment, or you'll take a punch or two for not retreating. Either way you could make it a legal issue and cost him his job, either for assault (ideally), or harassment.

Sounds like a thirsty guy...if that's the scene in your city I feel sorry for you. 50 guys and 4 girls? Damn.

It was a particularly bad ratio that night but the crawl has been good in the past, depending on the season. But over time it may have become more of a crutch than anything, I shouldn't rely on it so much for obvious reasons.

I dislike shmoozing and networking, I'm a more direct and above-board type of guy. I think I have to agree with Suits on this, being dependent on people or venues or 'fragile' niches is a problem. Sooner or later shit like this can happen to any one of your niches from my point of view. The night venues are made to make you spend money with the hope to get pussy. I should reevaluate this.

Post: #40

It's a pub crawl team...The only people I've ever seen do those weekly pub crawls are mid 30s and early 40s people, generally out of shape and wearing stupid graphic tees (like: "I love Vampires"). The pub crawl dudes usually have unkempt beards and like flannel shirts and fix bicycles for a living, and the girls consider themselves artists but have never actually made any art. Basically over grown 20 year olds who haven't realized that they are in fact in really their mid 30s.

Post: #41

(03-18-2016 11:11 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  *Not 100% serious here, but not 100% not serious either*

Is there online reviews on Yelp/Trip Adviser/etc. for his pub crawl?

Go to UpWork/Fiverr and find some people with fake female profiles from near your area. Write a few reviews accusing the guy of trying to put one of their friends in his car and take her home while she was falling down drunk.

Then screenshot the reviews and send them to the Tumblr/SJW retards in your area pretending to be one of the girls friends and get the bloggers worked up into a frenzy about the "pro rape" pub crawl that is put on to get young girls drunk and take advantage of them.

Post the review screenshots all over local Facebook groups from a fake female profile you buy off Fiverr or somewhere. Send them to his girlfriend and to his mom. If he has a day job send them to his boss.

Post the phone number to his boss publicly/give it to the bloggers to post publicly so people can call and let them know they have a "potential rapist" working for them. Send them to his clients/co-workers.

Put up a website JohnDoeIsAPonentialRapist.com linking to his social media profiles and then send it to all of his Facebook friends and family.

******THIS MAY ALL BE ILLEGAL******* and a lot of work.

It may be best to move on, but I wanted to test out my new found SJW tactics. I think I could ruin an innocent mans life pretty quickly, get them divorced, and maybe even throwin into jail.

Fuckin black belt level achieved lol.

Bro. Chill.

Post: #42

It was a mistake to think you were tight with that organiser in the first place.

Not only did you game chicks he was after and could have fucked himself but he had to deal with a stuck up girl with an attitude and from past experience alone, he would have just found it easier to throw you under the bus.

He couldn't have a real game going with his business if 1 guy was seen as a threat. He would have told her to go fuck herself unless he wanted an excuse to be rid of you in the first place. More pussy for him is the way he see's it and men like that are the opposite of friends.

Post: #43

Always better to expand than rebuild (old energy vs. new energy) You can always revisit down the road as time has a funny way of burying a lot.

So option A. find new contacts, push yourself, and do something new. Maybe revisit with these people down the road with a more enhanced status
B. Double down to "clear" your name and no intent on picking up new contacts...

Post: #44

How about an RoK article? "Fellow rok feb 6th meetup organizer who was chased by sjw mob now banned from bars/clubs in area." Something like that. Then shout the guy's organization. Heck maybe even his name, it was his decision. It's not libel/slander if it's true. His business either drops off or becomes saturated by problem glasses and limp wrists.

Post: #45

Predicted these turn of events last year, didn't think it would occur so soon though:

/thread-48010...pid1039134

Quote:For single young guys they are looking at a steep wall to climb. I wouldn't want to be a single young man at 18 today unless I was very photogenic for online game. For the other 95% of men, mass cold approaching won't be effective nor will most bar game unless he is willing to spend an ungodly amount of time mastering the cold approach against technology that is increasingly alienating people into virtual worlds. He's basically forced into social circle game to get above-average women which places him at the mercy of his SJW friends in school. He's fucked to try and do things like we once did, approach chicks at bars, clubs, or streets non-stop. Doing that in the future will probably just get you recorded by some dude's night vision smartphone then uploaded to facebook for people to blacklist you from other bars. The cockblocks will be virtual but they will still be real. All of this is a function of decreasing amounts of young women being pursued by an ever larger single-male demographic.

You have been virtually cockblocked. Conform to the feminist system or face celibacy, shitlord.

Post: #46

(03-18-2016 11:55 AM)Speculation Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:33 AM)godzilla Wrote:  OP...you might want to give a few days and see if he actually tries to ban you from clubs before you take any measures.

...

People forget in the bar business pretty fast. I bet everyone has a story where they were too drunk at a bar and ended coming back like 1 month later, though it all depends really.

I agree. Ignore the guy, give it a few week and just go about your business as normal. Except for never going anywhere near the crawl again of course.

A lot of people just get caught up in the spur of the moment.

One of my clients once threatened to sue me, then 2 weeks later he's all apologies and wants to do business. This is people.

Post: #47

(03-18-2016 01:53 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  A lot of people just get caught up in the spur of the moment.

One of my clients once threatened to sue me, then 2 weeks later he's all apologies and wants to do business. This is people.

Well, that horny sailor was probably quite drunk and didn't really mean it the first time...this time it's been 2 weeks at sea and he's REALLY up for it!

Post: #48

Success and the best tang to bang is the best revenge...

Since you do have 71 posts and 12 rep points you are not quite a Jedi Master but perhaps a Jedi Apprentice...

That puts you leagues ahead of game regarding the other 50 Pub Sausage Festers and 4 females.

Time to flip the script - KEEP your Red Pill knowledge a secret and FLIP the Script and create your own hot females pub crawl teams where your value add is as a relationship guru and decipherer of men's minds and motivation whereby you help each female to both find and keep the man of their desires.

You present yourself as their dating coach, relationships guide and ice breaking wing man. Google Women's Male Relationship Coaches for the best BS Artists that spin women about how you can make their romantic lives sizzle from teaching them proper technique with you as their lab chimp to making introductions for them - may have to take one for the team with a few hot cougars as they can afford to pay you for said relationship services.

You structure this as a team and they have to try out to get on your team... with specific challenges...

The probie rookie females have got to prove they have what it takes to be on your team - try out skills include if they can get you to nut from superior oral skills within 5 minutes or get you to nut within 10 minutes with them riding you cowgirl on top with intense klegel action? You may need to give them multiple personal coaching sessions until they are proficient.

You could try out two or three at a time and then instead of a 40 Man Sausage Crawl with them all holding their cox with their sox - You run a 100 woman flash mob that walks into the best clubs and pubs NO charge and the owners pay you bottle service to get you to keep them in the venue for more than the obligatory flash mob 5 minutes so the Pub SausageCrawlers open up their wallets to buy your ladies drinks - you have to train your team its one drink and vamoose if they want to stay on your team and benefit from your coaching.

Of course, no phat phooglie beezies allowed otherwise what is the point.

Your team your rules... your knightly nut will thank you.

And the sausagecrawling organizer who kicked you out of his great White Northen Knights Blue Pillers club will not know what hit him even if you only start with a team of ten money honies - they have to pay money for intros to your honeys.

How to learn this level of game?

Simple the secret is separating the beta males from the natural alpha males - even the shy ones or naturals who can not be bothered with female games and due to the natural hypergamy of women many females will flake but you will enjoy endless demand and fresh rotation.

Of course, the real purpose here is to hareem up as many 7 to 10s as possible - club owners will pay you free drinks, bottle service and VIP section tables with no wait comp (many make up VIP cards for this) to bring real talent into their clubs and pubs and keep them their - which is why you use scarcity by flash bang mobbing the venues on tang crawlers night (Weds or Thursday) with a promise of maybe I will bring my team back on Friday or Saturday even Sunday their big thirsty horn dawgs money making nights.

The highest form of Generalship is to win via strategy and superior game without spending money or arms.

Just teach your female team Ten Hookup/relationship etc., mistakes they need to avoid if they want to keep their target alpha males around... and teach them to use the beta sausagecrawlers for free drinks until you can hook them up with real alphas... Of course real Alphas get bored and do not stick around for too long so your teamies will keep coming back to you for their next Alpha fix.

https://www.relationshipscoach.co.uk/blo...uld-avoid/

Success is the best revenge.

Post: #49

If you visibly pulled girls from this pub crawl, it's likely the organizer held resentment against you. Then he got a bullshit "tip" and that was all he needed to do what he always wanted to do.

A guy would start a pub crawl or be a promoter because he wants more women. Then he sees a guy getting more than him? Jealousy kicks in.

Post: #50

Every solution here seems to be way too much effort than its worth.
Seriously, who is going to get a lawyer because somebody said they would get you kicked out of a nightclub?

Except for maybe what Roosh said. Stalk his facebook and hopefully he has liked some anti-immigration post. Then you can label him as Hitler. Because apparently that is the same thing these days.


You don't have to resort to day game.
Backpacker pussy was my only source of pussy for about 3 years. You just have to suss out all the backpacker hostels in your city, figure out if there are many in the same area, then just drink at the shitty dive bars with the cheapest beers in that area. You are bound to meet travelers.