Post: #101

There's a scene from Space Cowboys.

Clint Eastwood, Tommy Lee Jones, James Garner, and Donald Sutherland are former pilots whose hopes were dashed in 1958 with the formation of NASA and the use of trained chimps. They blackmail their way into orbit when Russia's mysterious Ikon communications satellite's orbit begins to degrade and threatens to crash into Earth, and the old crew are the only ones familiar with the technology.

Shortly before they blast into space, Tommy Lee Jones' character was told that he has terminal, inoperable cancer..

Post: #102

Okay, so.

I am am well aware that different generations have different iconic movie scenes, and yet a part of me thinks that there are at least a few movies from my generation that shouldn't be forgotten, and at the same time, I know it is ridiculous to think that everyone has to watch a movie just because it had a big effect on me when I watched it in my teens.

So I am trying to strike a balance here.

I think every man should watch "Deliverance."

I also know time has moved on.

"Deliverance" was iconic because it dealt with a group of city men braving the backroads and backrivers, thinking they were superior to the countryfolk, and then finding themselves in a situation that tested them as men in a new way, a way that didn't involve offices and calling the police.

A bit of backstory.

The movie "Deliverance" was based on a novel by a poet who left it in limbo for years, and then, in a fit of passion, wrote it in one weekend, or so the story goes.

It tells the story of a group of friends from the city who headed out to the wilderness because a river was about to be dammed, and it would be the last chance for them to canoe down the river before it was gone forever.

The author of the novel said, in an interview with The Paris Review,

Quote: People were caught up in a savage fable of decent men fighting for their lives and killing and getting away with it.

So, their river trip turned into a fight for their lives, and they had to suddenly fight out of their urban personas and deal with reality in all its savagery.

Again, from the Paris Review, the author, James Dickey, says:

Quote:I'll tell you what I really tried to do in Deliverance. My story is simple: there are bad people, there are monsters among us. Deliverance is really a novel about how decent men kill, and the fact that they get away with it raises a lot of questions about staying within the law—whether decent people have the right to go outside the law when they're encountering human monsters. I wrote Deliverance as a story where under the conditions of extreme violence people find out things about themselves that they would have no other means of knowing. The late John Berryman, who was a dear friend of mine, said that it bothered him more than anything else that a man could live in this culture all his life without knowing whether he's a coward or not. I think it's necessary to know.

http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews...mes-dickey

Ther are plenty of powerful, emotional scenes that speak to me from the movie "Deliverance," some of which I dreamed of for months afterwards, so it is hard to choose just one, just one scene to inspire others to watch this amazing movie.

The one I will choose though is not violent, and it has no heroism or sacrifice. It happens early in the movie when the city slickers are getting gas in a hillbilly outpost, trying to find someone to drive their cars down lower on the river to meet them after their canoe trip.

All the people they talk to seem retarded, uneducated, unable to communicate or even listen, and one of the city guys starts playing his guitar while he is waiting for the business to be concluded.

He hears someone echo whatever he plays on his guitar with their banjo, and he plays the call and response with his guitar to their responses. Soon he realizes that the person playing the banjo is this weird kid, either interbred or retarded, and yet the music is what bonds the two of them.

Pretty soon the forward momentum of the call and response between the banjo and the guitar supersedes all the the city folk talking city talk and the country folk talking country talk.

There is a very short shared moment between the two cultures, based in music, and then it is over, and they are separate again.

Suspicious hillbillies vs. the condescending city guys.

Most compelling movie scene I ever seen:





Don't even know if it is relevant to young guys today, but if this scene speaks to you, there is a hell of a movie you might want to watch.

Post: #103

From one of my favorite sci fi movies, "Ex Machina"

Oscar Isaac's character "Nathan" is a reclusive genius who recruits the meek programmer "Caleb" (Domhnall Gleeson) to act as the human component in a Turing test to determine the AI consciousness of the lifelike android "Ava".

Caleb believes that creating a "sexy" android is similar to a stage magician with a hot assistant. Nathan (a dominant male both intellectually and physically) schools Caleb on sex, life, and the meaning of art with cold, hard truths.

Post: #104

Not from a film, but from the show Mad Men.

Don Draper pitches Kodaks new invention, the photo wheel:

Post: #105

I think "Deliverance" the novel had more impact on myself than the actual movie.
Was assigned to read in high school.
The scene of Ronny Cox's character climbing the cliff extended into an entire chapter in the book.
Author James Dickey has a cameo at the end as the pissed-off sheriff.

Novels that are man vs. man or man vs. nature are as red pill as one can find.
Do they still write stories like this?

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(10-04-2016 09:43 PM)Sombro Wrote:  I think "Deliverance" the novel had more impact on myself than the actual movie.
Was assigned to read in high school.
The scene of Ronny Cox's character climbing the cliff extended into an entire chapter in the book.
Author James Dickey has a cameo at the end as the pissed-off sheriff.

Novels that are man vs. man or man vs. nature are as red pill as one can find.
Do they still write stories like this?

True.

But you are an anomaly.

Who is going to watch this movie, let alone read this novel nowadays?

You want man vs. man?

Find the brave red pill man willing to tell the barista she got his drink wrong.

That is where we are at.

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Post: #110

Movies are awesome. You guys made me dig through my collection to search for the best examples.

I love the Rambo series. 1 and 4 particularly (2 and 3 not so much).

1 and 4 have a lot to teach if one reads between the lines, observes between the scenes – especially how John combats his demons in the last installment. Ending was on point too as the hero returns from whence he came.

But this scene, Goddamn this scene. Every time I need some energy I watch it and get pumped. Pure, uncensored testosterone fuelled rampage. Simply beautiful.





I may be in my twenties but I generally dislike my generation and the idols it worships. Fucking uneducated anarchistic drug abusing punks.

Despite the fact that the main character is basically a Man from a period decades ago I relate more to him nevertheless. His sense of honor, duty and anger when the young idiots decide to cap off his best friend.

The gentleman McCaine cleans house in this movie – figuratively and literally.





Children of Men, what a movie, my Brothers, what a movie. It depicts the apocalyptical state of Men when women CANNOT bear children anymore. Our situation is worse for our women have WILLINGLY DECIDED to bring apocalypse onto us by not being good mothers.

No, far better it is to bow before the inanimate objects, like the Golden Calf within the Scriptures. We all know how well that ended.

I have a soft spot for babies and children – damn did my eyes get watery as I was watching this. The music elevated the sense of hope and tragedy, the paradox, to a beautiful symphony of a crying clown.





Clyde Shelton: I'm just getting started. I'm gonna pull the whole thing down. I gonna bring the whole fuckin' diseased corrupt temple down on your heads. It's gonna be Biblical.

Somebody predicted the movement within America 7 years ago. Just replace Clyde Shelton with Trump. Jesus Christ, gives me goose bumps.

Post: #111

The Trump thread got me thinking about this movie (h/t I DIDNT KILL MY WIFE for bringing it up) I saw this in IMAX and this scene was one of the most suspenseful scenes Ive ever watched. I was gripping my seat with my heart pounding the entire time. The music hypnotizes you to the action.

Facial expressions can tell us so much about what is going on in a persons head and this scene captures that perfectly. After a cataclysmic disaster that should have been the end of the line Dr. Brand just sits and stares absently, still comprehending what has occurred while Cooper immediately processes, adapts, and formulates a plan and springs into action. He doesn't ask for counsel, advice, or permission. He acts. This action may mean death, but inaction means certain death. As the g-forces take their physical toll he hangs on to consciousness and takes care of business while she blacks out. And after its all over? He takes a deep breath and gets ready to meet the next challenge while she cries.

Rejection > regret, even in space game.





The look on her face afterwards @ 3:21, gina tingles.....she has them.

Post: #112

From IMDb Trivia:

Quote:Sylvester Stallone insisted that the scene where he admits his fears and doubts to Adrian the night before the fight be filmed, even though production was running far behind and the producers wanted to skip it. Stallone had only one take for the scene, despite the fact that he considered it to be the most important scene in the film.

Due to the pressure he had to get it right in only one take, it was the only scene in which he got himself drunk beforehand. Personally, I can't imagine the movie without this scene, as it's what "re-frames" what winning means to Rocky. It isn't about beating Apollo, it's about being able to go toe-to-toe with him and still be standing when the final bell rings, to "go the distance". It's why we don't feel sad when the split decision is awarded to Apollo -- because even though Rocky didn't win the match, he achieved what he set out to do.





In real life, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are absolute limousine liberal douchebags, but they still did a great job in this movie -- Damon in particular. It doesn't matter how many times I've seen it, this scene always gets to me. Especially now that Robin Williams committed suicide, all of his movies just have a somber feel now.





If you've seen "Gattaca" you'll know what an emotional and powerful scene this is. If you haven't seen it, you should definitely check it out and avoid watching this clip beforehand.

Post: #113

People shit on Mighty Whitey movies generally, but I've always regarded The Last Samurai as underrated. It's basically this scene that founds my opinion.

Virtually no (English) dialogue, the whole story is told by Cruise's acting and Hans Zimmer's soaring sountrack.

This scene is a turning point in the film. It's layered with several meanings, the most significant of which is that it's the first time the samurai recognise a kindred spirit in Cruise's character, Algren. Up to this point Algren is treated like a kind of unwanted guest. But in this scene he connects to the samurai ideal of complete commitment and honour: no matter how fierce the beating he takes, he keeps trying to get up and keep fighting, right until he's knocked unconscious.

It's also Algren's first "victory" over his antagonist in this part of the film (Ujio). It's not stated outright, but it's heavily implied that by beating Algren into the ground even when he can't fight back, Ujio is in part shamed by his behaviour. Ujio also won't admit it, but it's the first time Algren earns some respect from him. It's the beginning of the transformation of their relationship from enemies to comrades.

It is a transformative moment for Algren, too. Up to this point he's been largely a passive character: he has a death wish right up to the point where he's captured by Katsumoto's men, but it's in this scene, for the first time in his captivity, that he actually starts to fight back against his captors. It's the first time he actually starts to show some will to live, and it's the first time we see exactly how indomitable his spirit is.

I admit I always do tear up when I watch this scene, especially at Algren's very last attempt to get up: the beating just seemed to go on for an hour, and he just keeps ... getting ... up.

Last Samurai isn't perfect, of course, but I really think Cruise gave one of his best performances in this one, and in this scene in particular.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #114

Paracelsus,

It just so happens that I recently read Shogun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)

Quote:William Adams (24 September 1564 – 16 May 1620), known in Japanese as Miura Anjin (三浦按針: "the pilot of Miura"), was an English navigator who in 1600 was the first of his nation to reach Japan. One of a few survivors of the only Dutch East India Company ship to reach Japan from a five-ship expedition of 1598, Adams settled there and became the first ever (and one of the very few) Western Samurai.

Soon after Adams' arrival in Japan, he became a key advisor to the shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu. Adams directed construction for the shogun of the first Western-style ships in the country. Adams was later key to Japan's approving the establishment of trading factories by the Netherlands and England. He also was highly involved in Japan's Red Seal Asian trade, chartering and serving as captain of four expeditions to Southeast Asia. He died in Japan at age 55. He has been recognised as one of the most influential foreigners in Japan during this period.

Numerous novels were based on his life, beginning in the 19th century. He was the model for the character of John Blackthorne in James Clavell's best-selling novel Shōgun (1975), which was adapted as a 1980 TV mini-series, a 1989 computer game, and 1990 Broadway musical.

Post: #115

An example of primal violence that pumps me up.

Raging Bull - LaMotta vs. Janiro: https://youtu.be/fzUTXpvBTVc

"He ain't pretty no more." Nope...

Post: #116

(10-27-2016 09:46 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Paracelsus,

It just so happens that I recently read Shogun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)

Quote:William Adams (24 September 1564 – 16 May 1620), known in Japanese as Miura Anjin (三浦按針: "the pilot of Miura"), was an English navigator who in 1600 was the first of his nation to reach Japan. One of a few survivors of the only Dutch East India Company ship to reach Japan from a five-ship expedition of 1598, Adams settled there and became the first ever (and one of the very few) Western Samurai.

Soon after Adams' arrival in Japan, he became a key advisor to the shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu. Adams directed construction for the shogun of the first Western-style ships in the country. Adams was later key to Japan's approving the establishment of trading factories by the Netherlands and England. He also was highly involved in Japan's Red Seal Asian trade, chartering and serving as captain of four expeditions to Southeast Asia. He died in Japan at age 55. He has been recognised as one of the most influential foreigners in Japan during this period.

Numerous novels were based on his life, beginning in the 19th century. He was the model for the character of John Blackthorne in James Clavell's best-selling novel Shōgun (1975), which was adapted as a 1980 TV mini-series, a 1989 computer game, and 1990 Broadway musical.

There was even a black samurai, that served under Oda Nobunaga.

Post: #117

Click on images, to open YT video in new window.

This scene from 'The Neverending Stroy' (1983), one of the best books ever written,
creeps the hell out of me. And the meaning behind it is more actual than ever..


Al Pacinos performance in 'Scent Of A Woman' make me shiver
in these two scenes: