Post: #1

The short version:
This chick I know wants to hang out, but she says her man wants to meet me first. Ive known her for years, she's cool, hot, never banged, but now I'm going for the bang. ...... but I need to meet her dude first because he knows all her friends and he doesn't know me. Is meeting this dude a bad idea? Should I suck it up and just meet them both for drinks on a double date? (That was the original plan.)


The long version:
I've known this chick for some time. Met her back when myspace was still alive. I didn't know what to do with her and I ended up in the friend zone. We've hung out a few times since then. She likes my style and always wants to hang but over the years I realized I was in the friend zone and just paid her no mind even though we interact on facebook/text.

She moved to my state and got herself a dude. They live together. A few times she said she's looking to move out cause she's tired of him, that was like year ago though....

Past year we've been on harmless flirt mode via text but nothing sexual. She knows I'm married and gaming. I then found this board and had to pause my interactions with her until I reasses. But I send her cool photos of where I am and she's "why didn't you take me" , "I wanna come", "let's go and be sexy".

I saw her about three weeks ago when I had about 30 minutes to kill and I felt it was like game on. She was receptive, body language was on, she was touching hugging pretty much followed my lead. Didn't kiss close but to be honest it wasn't even on my mind I was still used to being in friend zone so when we departed I was so used to not running game that i didn't. ........ i was like "Doh!!"

Anyway, she is pushing to hang out again, but she says her dude wants to meet me first. So I suggested a double date then cancelled as I wasn't sure if that was a good idea.

This chick is a solid dime, jewish, fun, always dresses like a superstar, has great manners/etiquette and she's just cool to be around. We mesh very well, for some strange reason she just listens to me, she never tries to disagree with me. When I used to tell her meet me at xyz at xpm she's like "ok." Doesn't ask what to wear, where we going age just shows up looking like a magazine cover. Even though she's on the broke side she always pulls out card/cash and either pays for everything or pays half or throws cash into the "pot". When she IS broke she just says "I'm broke this week let's go out next week" and the day of she'll initiate via text. Its the funniest thing but I dig it.

She says we can hang out alot more but her dude wants to know who i am first...... should I meet or is that a bad idea.?
I'm pretty sure I can get out of the friend zone on this one

Post: #2

It sounds like you're pretty buried in the friendzone, you've known her since MySpace was big and have never even tried to kiss her. It sounds like she just views you as a friend and the dude wants to see if you're a threat or not. I think moving on is the best option here but if you're really intent on getting the notch I don't think meeting the guy is a great idea, it just reinforces the frame that you're just friends hanging out. I would just try to brush off the idea and hang out like you usually do but if you want her to start viewing you sexually you gotta make a move

Post: #3

OK, you're married (I don't know the details, maybe separated, maybe fooling around for some side action or just moving on) and she's in an LTR...the only reason to meet her guy is if you're having a DL affair and you're both trying to play it off and act like you're just friends. And even that is best avoided if possible. But she probably talks about you to her guy, so he's curious and trying to sort it out also. It's a dangerous game you're playing, I know the allure of landing a dime you've been saving in your back pocket for a decade is intense, but if you proceed just be prepared to lose her as a friend and possibly damage your own marriage as well because she would probably want an exclusive relationship with you.

Post: #4

Stay the fuck away from this girl.

Don't meet this guy, you never know what a bitch might be putting into his ear.

She KNOWS you're married which could fuck up alot.

You're too deep in the friend zone, in fact you are an orbiter.

You don't reward bitches who are cheating on their man (emotionally or physically), you don't give bitches validation who are in relationships.

You got some oneitis for this manipulative hoe, take that pussy off that pedestal.

You're a ball of string to this bitch.

This almost reads like a troll post.

Post: #5

I have experience with this.

Both married women and girls with boyfriends have sometimes asked me to do this after a while of me seeing (banging) them. I have always flat out refused. No exceptions.
You can easily still get the bang with her without ever complying with this request.

The problem is not that she thinks what she is doing is wrong, the problem is that she does not like the feelings of guilt.
She doesn't care that she's cheating, she just doesn't like feeling bad about it.

If you meet him, he will know what you look like and who you are....that does not help you.
If you meet him, you may develop some kind of sympathy for him or at least start to feel guilty yourself about what you are doing....that does not help you.
If you meet him, she may well change her mind about banging you once things are normalized with you and her man and you are no longer an exciting secret that makes her head spin and her pussy tingle....that does not help you.

Bottom line:

If you want to bang her (and keep banging her).

DO NOT MEET HIM EVER.

Post: #6

This has happened to me also in my pre-red pill days. But, even then I knew it wasn't a good idea and declined.

I've also seen it on dating sites where the girl's profile will say something like, "My husband/boyfriend and I have an open relationship and he's cool with me seeing other guys only stipulation is that he has to meet you also." Are you kidding? Bad idea.

Post: #7

I would not meet him.
I would give her some open ended excuse where she has to ask you why??
Then that opens the door for you to drop some whitty line on her and get her hamster spinning.
One thing for sure is your either gone to bang her or at worse stay friends.

Post: #8

One of the worst ideas ever and you already know that. Trust your instincts. The next thing she'll want to do is meet your wife so they can be best buddies.

Post: #9

You already know it's a bad idea, otherwise you wouldn't be asking.

The trick to cheating is not getting involved. Don't catch feelings, don't meet her friends, don't let her meet your friends, and the most obvious would be to stay the fuck away from her boyfriend.

You're running into the fire here.

Post: #10

Risk loosing half your shit by looking for/ documenting opinions on how to get some strange on the Internet.

Find some college chick in whole foods.

Post: #11

You're married. Be very careful. Even posting on the forum. That's my number one advice if you're going to game.

I know how this works too as I know the situation intimately.

So.. your own guilt is cock blocking you whether you admit it or not. Marriage, it's the silent, invisible cock blocker.

I say this because it's strange you haven't made a move. That used to be why I didn't make moves when I was in your place.

My humble and genuine suggestion: I'm not sure why you're still married but if you value your relationship with your wife and she's devoted to you, make her happy first. Then and only then, decide whether you game or not.

I know that's hard but this one is close to a lost cause anyways and this "dude" won't do you any favors whether you decide to game her later, now or never.

Post: #12

Make yourself an OKC/Tinder account, and if you live in a major Northeastern city you could be banging a dime Jewish MILF from a different area code with about twenty minutes a day worth of effort over a few weeks. Who cares about this bitch who knows all your details and personal situation?

Game won't necessarily help you get THE one you want. It won't help you get THE jewish girl, THE sexy librarian, or THE tattooed rocker you've known on social media since Bush II was president.

But if you like what you like, it will help you get "A" one of the above, if that's what you really want. Just not "The."

Post: #13

Response:

"nah"

Post: #14

Maybe they want you to be the third in a Devil's Threesome or he just wants to sit in a corner and watch while you bang her.

Post: #15

You are VERY deep in the friendzone. Move on.

Post: #16

Toejam

1. You are in the friendzone
2. She knows you are married and could potentially do damage by contacting your wife!
3. There is a ton of women out there that do not know about your wife and dont want you to meet their boyfriend/husband
4. No one is THAT HOT!!
5. Even if she is THAT HOT you can always find others just AS HOT that will be less trouble!
6. If she was REALLY a friend she would offer to wing you when you hung out, and help you get other chicks! Therefore she is not really friend.
7. "Cocaine is a helluva drug!" -Rick James and so is Oneitis! Which you have really bad! Get out there and talk to other chicks!!!

Post: #17

Do not meet him. This is a shit test. Think of it this way. Are you the one doing the inspection or is he? He is the one in power. Why put yourself in a situation like that.

Plus as someone else said, if she's going to bang you, getting the OK from her boyfriend to hang removes all sense of danger. It means he isn't threatened by you in the least.

Post: #18

I know this is the newbie forum but really?

Post: #19

I would recommend doing the following:

Meet the dude and check out what Kind of male you are dealing with. If he is a fellow red-piller, I personally would suggest a firm Salute and afterwards leaving his chick alone. If he is a dork though, or an asshole with no game or intellect, try to beat him. Feel free to steal his chick. A meetup with him alone would not bring any benefit, but in the Company of his Girl, with her watching you guys interact with each other, you can do a lot. You could just outright dominate him physically (nothing violent) and verbally. If I were serious about this Girl and didn't care about the dude, I would simply make her see, how I own her man and out-value him. I personally have no shame in doing this and have done it before. From the Moral Point of view it's a different Story.

You be the judge and Chose. If you are not determined to fuck or get with the Girl, you seriously should GTFO. The friendzone gnaws on our souls...

Post: #20

(02-27-2016 12:14 PM)SudoRoot Wrote:  I would recommend doing the following:

Meet the dude and check out what Kind of male you are dealing with. If he is a fellow red-piller, I personally would suggest a firm Salute and afterwards leaving his chick alone. If he is a dork though, or an asshole with no game or intellect, try to beat him. Feel free to steal his chick. A meetup with him alone would not bring any benefit, but in the Company of his Girl, with her watching you guys interact with each other, you can do a lot. You could just outright dominate him physically (nothing violent) and verbally. If I were serious about this Girl and didn't care about the dude, I would simply make her see, how I own her man and out-value him. I personally have no shame in doing this and have done it before. From the Moral Point of view it's a different Story.

You be the judge and Chose. If you are not determined to fuck or get with the Girl, you seriously should GTFO. The friendzone gnaws on our souls...

Aye, Cap'm!

Post: #21

Fuck no i would laugh in this skanks face.

Post: #22

Why does this thread exist?

Post: #23

In my beta days, I've been the boyfriend willing to meet the dude (an ex).
I played it agressively, he totally cut contact with the girl thereafter (was even more beta than me).

Don't go there Toejam, that's obviously a trap.
But if you do, please report.

Post: #24

In general: To this kind of shit test answer "I'm not gay."
It is an indirect insult against her boyfriend, see how she reacts. If she stands by him you didn't have her anyway but at least she knows you are not afraid to stand up for yourself, if she laughs at your innocent "joke" she has lost respect for him.
Specifically: I agree with most people here, don't do it. However long you have known her, women don't ask these things out of honesty or kindheartedness.

Post: #25

(03-06-2016 06:32 PM)Splord Wrote:  It is an indirect insult against her boyfriend, see how she reacts. If she stands by him you didn't have her anyway but at least she knows you are not afraid to stand up for yourself, if she laughs at your innocent "joke" she has lost respect for him.

This is good advice.

With any woman who has a boyfriend or husband, indirectly insulting or making fun of her main man, is an effective strategy to finding out how "open" she is to cheating.

If she fails to defend him in any way, or say that she still likes him despite his flaws when such comments are made, you now know how her pussy (not her brain) really feels about him.

Toejam, you should update this thread with what happened since your original post.