Post: #751

(06-02-2017 11:53 AM)8ball Wrote:  

(06-02-2017 11:48 AM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I could get behind the neocon idea of boots on the ground in Assyria to retake Damascus but only if it came with the promise of retaking Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Alexandria and Constantinople next.

You are mistaken about neocon ideas. Their idea is to take Damascus and give it to the islamists.

In my version of events they can't have it. It's too bad that western powers have the means but not the will.

Post: #752

Neocons have been actively emptying out the near east of its Christian population, the world's oldest, including in Palestine, as Beirut noted above. They're setting up salafi death cults and chaos (and proxy states like Kurdistan) all around Israel so that it can totally dominate the area and take over its resources (see Genie Oil owners Rothschild and co). They want to break down previously stable secular nation-states in that area, which had always had a high degree of religious and cultural minorities that managed to live together, breaking them up into warring ethno-states.

Before the invasion of Iraq, the Christian population in the middle east was doing fairly well and living in peace in nearly every country, except in Israel, where communities in places like Bethlehem have been persecuted and harassed just as much as the muslim palestinians. The neocon coalition has been funding, training and supporting the jihadis in their fight against the multiconfessional national army in Syria.

Post: #753

Remember the little boy from Aleppo ? Well here is an update on the situation you won't see on CNN (Actually very surprised Telegraph are reporting this)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/...ering/amp/

Quote:New photographs have emerged of Omran Daqneesh, the little Syrian boy whose image was seen around the world as a symbol of the suffering of Aleppo.

Three-year-old Omran became a global icon last August after his home was bombed by Russian or Syrian regime forces in the final months of the siege of Aleppo.

In photographs published on social media on Monday he appears healthy and recovered and is sitting on his father’s knee.

Omran’s image was widely used to illustrate the brutality of the Assad regime as it tried to crush the opposition in Aleppo, Syria’s largest city.

But his family, like many others in rebel-held east Aleppo, are reported to have remained loyal to the regime throughout the siege.

They refused all media interviews and reportedly went into regime-held west Aleppo when they had a chance.

The family was interviewed this week by several pro-regime Syrian and Lebanese television channels. In a clip from one interview, Omran's father said rebel groups and the international media wanted to use his son to attack the Syrian regime.

"They wanted to trade in his blood and published his photos," he said. He said his shaved his son's head to try to disguise him and shield him from media attention.

It is possible the family felt forced to take part in the interview for their own safety.

Omran’s older brother Ali, aged ten, was killed in the same strike that injured Omran.

Kinana Allouche, a pro-regime journalist, posted photographs of herself interviewing Omran and his family. "The child Omran, those who tried to shed Syrian blood mislead the news that he was hit by the Syrian Arab Army," she wrote. "Here he now lives in the Syrian state with its army, its leader and its people."

Ms Allouche drew internet attention last year after she posted a smiling selfie of herself standing in front of dead rebels.

The siege of Aleppo ended in December last year, when a deal was reached to allow residents and fighters from east Aleppo to leave their homes and go into the countryside.

Post: #754

Once again, US hits Pro Syrian gov't army within Syria's borders. Good couple of days for the House of Saud.

Post: #755

U.S. once again shoots down Syrian army planes. in excuse of "self-defense" , you know...IN SYRIAN soil. It's quite clear that the plan (I don't know if it's deep state's or Trumps, I've given up) is to prolong the war as much as possible, provoke a full-flight war vs. Assad, or partition Syria where US gets two puppet states in Kurdistan and "Rebel-held" state.

meanwhile, Israel's full cooperation with terrorists in Syria is a lot deeper when most first realized and is getting the headlines.

Iran also fired missiles from Kermanshah (in west Iran) to Eastern Syria where Deir-Ez-Zur where ISIS are located, which I perceive as a warning to Saudi Arabia (who killed an Iranian fisherman in waters of Persian Gulf yesterday).

Shit is heating up. Fasten your seatbelt.

Post: #756

Just say it properly: ISIS Air Force Downs Syrian Warplane in Raqqa.
That's it, the still uninvited US forces recently downed a Syrian warplane which was conducting legitimate operations against Daesh in Raqqa, confirming one more time that the US Air Force has been acting as the ISIS Air Force, since the start of the US invasion by proxy against Syria on March 15, 2011.
The equation is very simple: USA + Israel + Saudi Arabia = ISIS.

Post: #757

Yes, this is part of a long pattern, we've seen it before when NATO bombed Syrian infantry for hours when they had ISIS pinned down in Deir Zor last year, just as they were about to liberate this city with an important Christian population from the POS jihadis.



Armenian Genocide Museum in Deir Zor - the city was a destination for thousands of refugees escaping from the Turkish massacres further north.


Kushner, McMaster, McCain, Cheney, Murdoch and co want to impose their balkanized chaos and freekin caliphate on the people of Syria, doing Israel's dirty work.

Post: #758

Deep State is getting its way. Russia is saying that they're going to treat American planes as hostile. Usual DC swamp rats saying to "stand strong." Isn't it convenient that this bullshit "Russia hacked the election" narrative has been put in place non-stop since December?

They're rapidly closing in on an area that is among the richest in oil in Syria. Race to see who gets there first.

Edit: I don't think Kushner is involved in this. Mike Cernovich hasn't said anything about it and he has sources.

Post: #759

The War Nerd, Gary Brecher is on the button to what is exactly going on.

Quote:Murky but bad. (Like a lot of news in this war--in most wars.) Tabqa is just south of Thawrah, below the dam. If you look at today's SyriaLive map (SyriaLive deserves huge credit for keeping this map fresh day after day), you see the SAA plane was shot down at a triangle where three forces collide: The SDF advancing from the north, the SAA & co. coming from the west, and IS, the dissolving stat whose turf the SDF and SAA are competing to take. But SDF is a very patient, clever geopolitical player, and SAA, though less disciplined, is generally cautious as well. There's something else here, a new aggressiveness by elements of the US command in central Syria towards SAA attempts to roll over their hopeless Sunni "moderate" militia fledglings. That's been happening non-stop in the SE, as we discussed with Elijah Magnier on RWN. If this extends to the Raqqa front, it's way scarier. And you can't really predict, because the US in Syria isn't a disciplined command. There's the huge CIA/Pentagon split, some kind of quiet revolt by mid-grade officers against their politicized generals, and God knows what inter-agency squabbles as well. (Not to mention the rapid collapse of the US in general.) In that context, it's not clear who gave the order.

If there was any logic in the decision it may have been the Americans' clear reluctance to kill off IS in Syria once and for all. As Elijah Magnier said on the show, the US always gives IS an escape route. The US, Saudi, Israel don't want a Syria totally free of IS. It's too useful. In Raqqa, the IS escape route is east toward Deir ez Zor. Since SDF and SAA are both taking ground east of Raqqa, along that route, the US may have decided to check the SAA, as the less-controllable force, and ensure that the SDF, which depends on US help, holds that IS escape route.

Post: #760

Trump is failing big time here.

Protecting ISIS and similar terrorists is a foul play.

Post: #761

(06-18-2017 09:13 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  U.S. once again shoots down Syrian army planes. in excuse of "self-defense" , you know...IN SYRIAN soil. It's quite clear that the plan (I don't know if it's deep state's or Trumps, I've given up) is to prolong the war as much as possible, provoke a full-flight war vs. Assad, or partition Syria where US gets two puppet states in Kurdistan and "Rebel-held" state.

meanwhile, Israel's full cooperation with terrorists in Syria is a lot deeper when most first realized and is getting the headlines.

Iran also fired missiles from Kermanshah (in west Iran) to Eastern Syria where Deir-Ez-Zur where ISIS are located, which I perceive as a warning to Saudi Arabia (who killed an Iranian fisherman in waters of Persian Gulf yesterday).

Shit is heating up. Fasten your seatbelt.

Why doesn't every good, rational person loathe Israel?

Post: #762

The war is getting to the most fascinating part and could get even hairer.

As ISIS is pretty much done its all about race to Deir Zor. Who will hold the most land and the more rich oil parts as well as the best strategic positions.

The US Downed a syrian jet as Assad and the US backed SDF were battling it out south of Tabqa base. The US is banking that going all out with their support of kurds will lead to control of at least one faction when this is all over. Its a big mistake because the kurds have no loyalty to the americans, they will side with whoever gives them the best deal.

Once assad's forces liberate Deir Zor, they will take over the entire east and then eventually connect with PMU or iraqi forces at the border. When that happens assad will concentrate on cleaning up Daara, Damascus, Homs, suburbs after which the "rebels" will only have idlib to fall back to.

Once all this happens assad will have no incentive to make a deal. The kurdish controlled part of syria cannot last as the locals will not allow being ruled by them.

Post: #763

The US won't pull out in the face of Russian and Syrian opposition because they are too prideful and answer to the pay masters still.

The US believes it can be immune to counter attacks so we will see how far that arrogance goes.

Post: #764

Finally, Russia has understood that the US is no longer a trustworthy partner in Syria. It never was under the Obama regime, it's not under the Trump Administration. Russia gave Trump the benefit of doubt, however, POTUS is now pretty much kidnapped by the Deep State and his son in law. So, there is no need for more delusional hopes about any change in foreign policy under Trump. Sorry, guys.

Post: #765

I had hoped that Trump's rocket attack on Syrian forces was just a momentary blunder or a 4D chess maneuver, but now his actions have morphed into a series of disgusting warmongering acts that could not possibly serve any positive purpose.

Very sad that the deep state can just hijack presidents' foreign policy like that. I guess it will have to be civil war then...

Post: #766

(06-19-2017 12:11 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I had hoped that Trump's rocket attack on Syrian forces was just a momentary blunder or a 4D chess maneuver, but now his actions have morphed into a series of disgusting warmongering acts that could not possibly serve any positive purpose.

Very sad that the deep state can just hijack presidents' foreign policy like that. I guess it will have to be civil war then...

Trump is an idiot if he thinks he will get re-elected by starting a war with Russia. It's literally the opposite of what he got elected to do. His main base, is staunchly opposed to it.

Post: #767

(06-19-2017 12:16 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is an idiot if he thinks he will get re-elected by starting a war with Russia. It's literally the opposite of what he got elected to do. His main base, is staunchly opposed to it.

His main base, maybe. But what about the rest of the country? I haven't seen any polls but my guess is a good number of Americans are ready and willing to support another war, whether it's Russia, Iran, or NK. 72 % were in favor of Iraq. Sure, now in hindsight we can say "oh but they were pressured by the MSM" but what's so different now? Once the MSM war machine gets rolling, the public will lap that shit up like a good little doggie.

Post: #768

(06-19-2017 12:47 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 12:16 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is an idiot if he thinks he will get re-elected by starting a war with Russia. It's literally the opposite of what he got elected to do. His main base, is staunchly opposed to it.

His main base, maybe. But what about the rest of the country? I haven't seen any polls but my guess is a good number of Americans are ready and willing to support another war, whether it's Russia, Iran, or NK. 72 % were in favor of Iraq. Sure, now in hindsight we can say "oh but they were pressured by the MSM" but what's so different now? Once the MSM war machine gets rolling, the public will lap that shit up like a good little doggie.

Not sure if serious or the American people are that fucking stupid. Time will tell.

Yes lets attack a nuclear power when we can't even practice military manouvres in busy shipping lanes without losing 7 sailors to a fucking freighter on auto pilot going in a straight line using our so-called state of the art ship.

Lets attack a country which has a better military, strategic position and better prepared populace than any country we've fought since WWII.

Forgive me for putting my lead-lined hat on hoping there are enough people with sense who have the power to see beyond dick measuring.

Post: #769

(06-19-2017 10:14 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is failing big time here.

Protecting ISIS and similar terrorists is a foul play.

Not if you are allies with (((them))).

Assad on shaky ground to route him and have waring rebel factions pick up the pieces is exactly what Zionland wants. These rebels have a cheap price and can be bought with paper money, cans of beans, water bottles, and whores.

Post: #770

The American people are quite gullible and ignorant of the world outside our massive homeland but...no, even they aren't that gullible to just give a pass to an escalation between us and Russia. Russia is no joke, and a full conventional war would probably get the draft instated which would instantly catapult the nation into severe civil unrest. Nevermind the horrifying prospects of a nuclear exchange should either nation become on the verge of defeat.

Trump continues to let me down in the middle east. And I am very concerned with what happens if Russia actually follows through and shoots one of ours down or anything even remotely coming across as retaliation. This uniform worshiping country does not handle having it's military be told "no" very well. I think it is a legitimate worry it could escalate into something bad. As we've seen Russia can handle this bullshit without losing it's cool, but the U.S.? I don't have anywhere near that confidence, especially with the rhetoric coming out of many of our politicians.

We should have completely withdrawn all involvement the day Trump got inaugurated. We have no legal basis for being in there. The chances of an international incident with Russia are not worth the imaginary reward. Because let's be honest, we're not the good guys here. I wonder how aware the military and air force is of what they're doing?

Post: #771

The Draft will never return as it costs 120K a year to taxpayers to maintain every service man in the US military. Plus, with half of American twinkie eating sloths, or soy infused latte lefties you would be putting out a craptastic amount of bodies that would get rolled over by more rugged and savaged men. That type of escalation noted between Russia and USA would call for the biggest expansion to "Private Security" and mercenaries who would hail from Brazil to Cambodia would all flock to make some quick cash. You could pay Mercs 50K versus 120K to conventional nationals to fight.

The only saving grace is that Russia, unlike the USA, does not talk shit or games. If Russia says something, they will do it, 100%. There is no duplicity or dodgy thing with the official statements Russia puts out. The USA will bluff, the USA won't engage on that level. If the USA does.... then Trump shows an even more adherence to the Deep State than even Obama who was skittish in not going that last step into the flames when pressured to do so.

Post: #772

(06-19-2017 12:11 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I had hoped that Trump's rocket attack on Syrian forces was just a momentary blunder or a 4D chess maneuver, but now his actions have morphed into a series of disgusting warmongering acts that could not possibly serve any positive purpose.

Very sad that the deep state can just hijack presidents' foreign policy like that. I guess it will have to be civil war then...

Trump doesn't have full control of his own gov't yet. Other forces are trying to drive a conflict. Heck, when Obama got cold feet about Syria once, they had a similar dust up to make sure he had no choice.

Post: #773

(06-19-2017 05:59 PM)kosko Wrote:  The Draft will never return as it costs 120K a year to taxpayers to maintain every service man in the US military. Plus, with half of American twinkie eating sloths, or soy infused latte lefties you would be putting out a craptastic amount of bodies that would get rolled over by more rugged and savaged men. That type of escalation noted between Russia and USA would call for the biggest expansion to "Private Security" and mercenaries who would hail from Brazil to Cambodia would all flock to make some quick cash. You could pay Mercs 50K versus 120K to conventional nationals to fight.

The only saving grace is that Russia, unlike the USA, does not talk shit or games. If Russia says something, they will do it, 100%. There is no duplicity or dodgy thing with the official statements Russia puts out. The USA will bluff, the USA won't engage on that level. If the USA does.... then Trump shows an even more adherence to the Deep State than even Obama who was skittish in not going that last step into the flames when pressured to do so.

During the height of the Iraq war (Operation Iraqi Freedom), the Army in particular went to great lengths to loosen standards for entry to being a soldier. Although it would be a disaster, if it came to it they could do the same and more so. However, to your point, it takes a very long time to mobilize people, even if there was a full up draft and there weren't so many fat people. This process takes months at least, and what would all these people actually do? By that point it may be all over anyway. I don't even think we could mobilize mercenaries on a mass scale with any hope of them being effective, since they would somehow have to sync into our command and control systems and chain of command with a different language and completely different ethos.

This is such a stupid game to play by the pentagon. We are already losing Afghanistan (Matiss' own words last week), and now decide to up the ante in Syria.

But clearly government and the public have more important things to focus on like the nude picture scandal in the Marine Corps.

Post: #774

I use Breitbart comments as a sort of proxy for the average Trumpian. The site is overrun by Israeli shills, but even still the AVERAGE Trump voter wants peace with Russia, not just a truce, they want peace and be allied.

Trump is looking weak or like a Saudi/Israeli shill here. There's no excuse for this and his voting base know it.

We dont' know what Trump had to do with this, could easily be rogue McMasters cuck generals.

Post: #775

(06-19-2017 10:15 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(06-18-2017 09:13 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  U.S. once again shoots down Syrian army planes. in excuse of "self-defense" , you know...IN SYRIAN soil. It's quite clear that the plan (I don't know if it's deep state's or Trumps, I've given up) is to prolong the war as much as possible, provoke a full-flight war vs. Assad, or partition Syria where US gets two puppet states in Kurdistan and "Rebel-held" state.

meanwhile, Israel's full cooperation with terrorists in Syria is a lot deeper when most first realized and is getting the headlines.

Iran also fired missiles from Kermanshah (in west Iran) to Eastern Syria where Deir-Ez-Zur where ISIS are located, which I perceive as a warning to Saudi Arabia (who killed an Iranian fisherman in waters of Persian Gulf yesterday).

Shit is heating up. Fasten your seatbelt.

Why doesn't every good, rational person loathe Israel?

One word: hasbara.