(04-15-2018 08:25 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  An interesting take I found on pol.

https://i.imgur.com/LcHPNhT.jpg

Although the one caveat to that, is that there is nothing to stop the globalists from causing another false flag attack of some kind, to further beat the war drums.
Claim Assad bombed an orphanage.
Claim Assad bombed a refugee convoy.
The hoaxing mainstream media won't detail the truth, instead they'll be complicit in perpetuating the alleged 'human rights abuses'.

(04-15-2018 10:41 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 08:25 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  An interesting take I found on pol.

https://i.imgur.com/LcHPNhT.jpg

Although the one caveat to that, is that there is nothing to stop the globalists from causing another false flag attack of some kind, to further beat the war drums.
Claim Assad bombed an orphanage.
Claim Assad bombed a refugee convoy.
The hoaxing mainstream media won't detail the truth, instead they'll be complicit in perpetuating the alleged 'human rights abuses'.

Even the pleb-est of plebes - God willing - can see through such attempts at deception.

Why?

*2+/- years of FAKE NEWS!!!!1111
*General war-weariness and malaise towards fighting another open conflict especially in the Middle East especially when the US isn't threatened.
*General public sees that Trump is capable of at least some sort of negotiating after North Korean tensions
*A few but very vocal messengers spreading the True Gospel of what is going on to their audiences (Tucker Carlson, etc. to the Right, Jimmy Dore , etc. to the Left)

People are slowly but surely coming to the conclusion that Assad's claimed actions are hyped up by war-mongering politicians abroad and domestic OR that - even given that Assad did gas and kill 40-60 civilians - there is a general ambivalence to the plight of foreigners that are not threatening the US OR people just don't give a shit either way.

^
I don't necessarily disagree.
Although it was rather odd to see otherwise smart & right leaning folk on Twitter buy the mainstream narrative hook, line & sinker.
In other news :

Russian reinforcements head for Syria: Warships laden with tanks, military trucks and armoured patrol boats sail towards the Middle East as the world awaits Putin's response to airstrikes

Project 117 Alligator-class landing ship was spotted at Bosphorus, Turkey en-route to Syria on Sunday
The Russian vessel was laden with tanks, ambulances and IED radar after Friday's US-led Syrian air strikes
A RoRo Alexandr Tkachenko was also seen carrying high-speed patrol boats, temporary bridge and trucks
US, UK and French forces backed strikes that obliterated three targets in response to chemical weapon attack
Vladimir Putin warned there would be 'consequences' to military action against him and Bashar al-Assad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z5CosDOARj

(04-15-2018 10:41 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 08:25 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  An interesting take I found on pol.

https://i.imgur.com/LcHPNhT.jpg

Although the one caveat to that, is that there is nothing to stop the globalists from causing another false flag attack of some kind, to further beat the war drums.
Claim Assad bombed an orphanage.
Claim Assad bombed a refugee convoy.
The hoaxing mainstream media won't detail the truth, instead they'll be complicit in perpetuating the alleged 'human rights abuses'.

Plus - when you call a legitimate head of state that has a majority support in his country a gas-killing animal who murders the children of his own people, then there is no going back. The entire world media is already set on deposing Assad. Some outlets have even honestly claimed that ISIS territories were much safer than Assad-controlled Damascus. They claimed this with a straight face while of course no one of those soy-boys and feminazis would ever go visit those safe ISIS territories.

The attack was limited, but there will be others. Seems even as if the attack never happened. It was a conventional bombing and kids being saved from dust and fire.

Next time they might do another stunt or a real chemical attack. They have all the incentive in the world to do it. What irks me the most is that all the world media is blasting the same crap in unison on all TV channels and it is not even questioned by the majority.

At least in the past you had the excuse of not knowing what was going on. The media only lets you know what it wants you to know. For example - the Vietnam war was done and also shown in such a negative light, because the cultural marxists in the media wanted to ramp up the anti-White anti-American hatred. It did not just happen...

The media gets away with lies to the extent the public is gullible or willing enough to believe it or simply to ignore it.

(04-15-2018 12:26 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(04-15-2018 10:03 AM)Batka Wrote:  The Leader of the British Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn MP (Labour) being interviewed by Andrew Marr on BBC. Compare Corbyn's reasoned and rational response to the Syrian strikes to those of May and the ruling Conservatives.

The guy is an utter coward.

He had his chance. After the Paris attacks he could have stated that the commons vote was actually for a reduction in bombs dropped on Syria et al. by the Uk, Jordan etc.

He could have asked why the fuck didn't we use our air power when Isis was walking across the desert murdering men, women and children.

Our ally, Qatar was simultaneously funding, arming and training Isis as well as bankrolling Paris St Germain football club. Could have pointed that out.

Could have said it. Bottled it.

Asked some very weak questions instead.

He's a coward.

The rule of law, a joint consensus, blah blah blah, he's a faggot that would bottle it if he had to make the big decisions.

Calling Jeremy Corbyn a coward is not only inaccurate but complete and total BS not to mention disingenious. The man throughout his political career has been anything but. He has opposed Western wars for decades going back to Vietnam. He opposed NATO's illegal war and invasion of Yugoslavia back in '99. He opposed Afghanistan and both Iraq wars. He opposed Libya and now Syria. When he opposed the bombing of Serbia, he was condemned and hounded in the media. Fast forward to 2018, he his now under constant bombardment by the MSM who have tried their upmost to smear his character by calling him a 'traitor' and an 'anti-Semite' because of his opposition to Israel. He has come under fire from the Blairite members of his own party over Brexit (whom he supports) and now Syria. He has called out Western and Gulf Arab support of militant Islamic groups time and time again - see here -
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/...91966.html

He has not moved one iota from his views on any of the pressing issues affecting the UK, both domestic and foreign.

That is not the act of a coward. Those are the charactaristics of a level headed and rational politician. I would bet $10 that you never even bothered your arse looking at the interview.

By the way, here's the former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford dropping more truth bombs on the BBC





Are you going to call him a 'coward' as well?

P.S. whether you like it or not, Corbyn is the PM in waiting.

So which banned communist member are you, Batka? Traktor?

Corbyn is a pure communist. Fuck him. Only because he opposed this attack does not mean jack shit. According to him the West needs to go, open borders and invite as many different tribes into Europe, so that Whites don't even exist. And then he would usher in a communist multicultural rainbow utopia where the Jihadis and everyone will be holding hands in peace.

I won't even listen to a word that marxist says - it's useless. It's like believing in what Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin or Mohammed tell you. You don't have to - judge the commies and Jihadis by their actions.

Long live the revolutionary struggle of the Arab Baathist Socialist Party, Syrian people against the Western and Saudi backed Islamofascists. Long live the SAA and the Great Leader, Bashar Assad. the Lion of Damascus.

(04-16-2018 04:08 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Corbyn is a pure communist. Fuck him. Only because he opposed this attack does not mean jack shit. According to him the West needs to go, open borders and invite as many different tribes into Europe, so that Whites don't even exist. And then he would usher in a communist multicultural rainbow utopia where the Jihadis and everyone will be holding hands in peace.

I won't even listen to a word that marxist says - it's useless. It's like believing in what Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin or Mohammed tell you. You don't have to - judge the commies and Jihadis by their actions.

Opposition to this globalist war is coming from both the genuine Left (Corbyn, Dore, Galloway etc.) and the genuine Right (Carlson, Jones, Inghram etc). All are 100% spot on. There is a coming together of all on this one and using strawman arguments like this is just plain ridicilous. Your arguments reek of madness and narrow-mindedness. I have seen your posts and you lumping of Assad and the SAA in with ISIS and Al Queda is just batshit crazy.

Corbyn like Alex Jones has been consistently right on many issues down through the years. Corbyn has been opposing Western imperialist aggression for the last FIFTY years, on many issues, not just one as you clamied. Jones has been dropping truth bombs for years. He was talking about the NSA back in 2002 when everyone thought he was insane. Corbyn supports Brexit and does not support open borders. Here is an interview of him saying that mass immigration has undermined the conditions of indigenous workers - https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st...ns-british

Nice to see that you support a man who was a tool of the CIA and globalist bankers who also by the way hated the Baathist government of Syria and supported Israel.

What is this about a Syriam gas pipeline that will take out Russia from the European market?

(04-16-2018 04:29 AM)Batka Wrote:  

(04-16-2018 04:08 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Corbyn is a pure communist. Fuck him. Only because he opposed this attack does not mean jack shit. According to him the West needs to go, open borders and invite as many different tribes into Europe, so that Whites don't even exist. And then he would usher in a communist multicultural rainbow utopia where the Jihadis and everyone will be holding hands in peace.

I won't even listen to a word that marxist says - it's useless. It's like believing in what Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin or Mohammed tell you. You don't have to - judge the commies and Jihadis by their actions.

Opposition to this globalist war is coming from both the genuine Left (Corbyn, Dore, Galloway etc.) and the genuine Right (Carlson, Jones, Inghram etc). All are 100% spot on. There is a coming together of all on this one and using strawman arguments like this is just plain ridicilous. Your arguments reek of madness and narrow-mindedness. I have seen your posts and you lumping of Assad and the SAA in with ISIS and Al Queda is just batshit crazy.

Corbyn like Alex Jones has been consistently right on many issues down through the years. Corbyn has been opposing Western imperialist aggression for the last FIFTY years, on many issues, not just one as you clamied. Jones has been dropping truth bombs for years. He was talking about the NSA back in 2002 when everyone thought he was insane. Corbyn supports Brexit and does not support open borders. Here is an interview of him saying that mass immigration has undermined the conditions of indigenous workers - https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st...ns-british

Here comes the mighty duck with his 66 posts and dick-swinging and pissing on everyone. Where do I ever lump Assad with ISIS together?

Fucking A - I would send the full Western military force to Assad's aid and kill every radical and moderate head-chopper instantly. I would not even bother taking prisoners.

There is scant evidence that most of the so-called rebels are even Syrian.

But that does not mean that Corbyn is not a communist. But hey - if you are a commie and open-border anti-Western commie, then I get your hatred.

The more I watch and listen to Jeremy Corbyn the more I like the guy. Don't know if he's a commie or not, but he seems very genuine in his positions. Strikes me as a British version of Ron Paul. And he lacks all of Trump's bombastic bullshit - which is a good thing. Plus he pisses off Jews.

(04-16-2018 11:27 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  The more I watch and listen to Jeremy Corbyn the more I like the guy. Don't know if he's a commie or not, but he seems very genuine in his positions. Strikes me as a British version of Ron Paul. And he lacks all of Trump's bombastic bullshit - which is a good thing. Plus he pisses off Jews.

His supporters are more the Bernie crowd - the SJW vegan soyboys.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/670448...bour-party

Quote:Corbyn says UK is LUCKY to have mass immigration and hints MORE migrants would be welcome

Quote:EMBATTLED Jeremy Corbyn today defended mass migration saying it is a “plus” to the British economy and vowed migrants make an “amazing contribution” to our society.

He is the Bernie Sanders and Hugo Chavez of the UK - and that is why his support level is at 18%.

And his stance is not Anti-Jewish. He is just the usual far-left radical who went so far left, that he joined Hamas and Islam as the true Religion of Peace. That is nothing new - feminists and Antifa are on the same side. They march with the Jihadis until the Jihadis are in charge and will string them all up.

You can't expect the guy to be bashing Islam and calling for an end to immigration - that's a guarantee to never get elected in a ultra-liberal place like the UK. He's not a poster on RVF, he's a huge public persona. I just think he's being smart and prudent. He's made major gains among the younger generation and he's always (rightfully) talking smack about US/UK foreign policy, which was a prime reason for the Islamic immigration in the first place.

So Corbyn is correct on one issue. Wow.

And for every other issue, his policies would shove the already fucked up UK closer to the level of society of an ISIS-controlled territory in Syria.

Great tradeoff!

Fuck that commie piece of shit.

^S-400?

(04-16-2018 12:31 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  So Corbyn is correct on one issue. Wow.

And for every other issue, his policies would shove the already fucked up UK closer to the level of society of an ISIS-controlled territory in Syria.

Great tradeoff!

Fuck that commie piece of shit.

"The commie piece of shit" has been right on MANY issues if you had bothered to read my posts.

Anyway, here is his speech yesterday in Parliament.





Watch after 4:00 where he flails May and calls out her hypocricy over Saudi Arabia massacring Yemeni civilians using British weapons.

But hey! he's just a "commie piece of shit", right.

Meanwhile Israel has just attacked Syria again through Lebanese airspace directed at two air bases in the Homs province. The SAA appears to have repelled the attacks by shooting down all but two of the missiles.

Good work SAA.

https://www.rt.com/news/424333-syria-mis...ense-homs/

Israel is not even trying to pretend anymore.

As one of the only Trump-supporter in my workplace I've taken nothing but flak from all sides since he started running for POTUS. At one time I must have made my mouth go and asserted that 'Trump wouldn't drag the USA (and the UK) into the Middle East, or at least not as easily as Hillary would have done.

You can imagine how eagerly all this was thrown back in my face recently, so I'm honestly kinda relieved that these strikes appear to have been little more than expensive fireworks and that there doesn't appear to be any ideas about doing this sort of thing long-term. Doing nothing while appearing to do something. Trump was never meant to be perfect and as a great man (Enoch Powell) once said; 'All political lives ... end in failure', but I'm still a believer that Trump is a force for good and that he will achieve real improvements before his time is up.

Trump supporters (or just people who don't actively express their hatred for him) both in the US and other countries (like my cucked UK) have had to put up with so much shit in a way that Hillary supporters just haven't had to (even more in the UK, if you supported Trump and voted for Brexit!). So I'm glad that so far this hasn't been quite the kick-in-the-teeth betrayal that we feared.