Post: #51

They don't have shit on us. We are everywhere.

Quote:Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life.

We are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday we'll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but we won't. And we're just learning this fact. So don't fuck with us.

Post: #52

Quote:A good point given the current situation, but isn't closing off the walls just going to make us look more like an extremist group?

Agree, don't take the forum private. At intense moments during this event, and during past DDoS attacks, Roosh has taken the forum private, but only for brief periods until the immediate threat had passed.

I think this is the best policy -- open to the public unless there is an extreme/immediate threat, with Roosh manning the controls.

I might have never found RVF back in December 2014 if it was private/locked down. Wow, that would suck.

Post: #53

I actually saw one online article link directly to the "State of Emergency" thread.

I'd still like to coordinate an international meetup somehow.

Maybe a regroup and re-plan would be in order as this Saturday is short notice to reboot this, but I think through more private channels and with more careful organization we can make this happen in a safer and quieter way.

It's certainly a drag to see you give in to the weight of the media, but I do understand your actions. I also still believe a lot of people are going to hold meetups regardless on their own volition (I still plan to).

Post: #54

Did you make the cancellation public? You should pretend like everything is going according to plan so all these idiots still go protest at nothing

Post: #55

Guys, look at the long-term perspective of this.

It was a fantastic PR campaign.

We just got our message out to MILLIONS more people, many of whom who will come here looking for "pro-rape" material and be baffled when they find themselves nodding at our assertions.

The movement is anti-fragile in that the more we find our beliefs oppressed by protests, the more we'll continue to grow.

We've scored a win today, as we continue to siphon off their population into the Neomasculine movement.

Post: #56

(02-03-2016 09:36 PM)Valentine Wrote:  Guys, look at the long-term perspective of this.

It was a fantastic PR campaign.

We just got our message out to MILLIONS more people, many of whom who will come here looking for "pro-rape" material and be baffled when they find themselves nodding at our assertions.

The movement is anti-fragile in that the more we find our beliefs oppressed by protests, the more we'll continue to grow.

We've scored a win today, as we continue to siphon off their population into the Neomasculine movement.

We certainly didn't lose any members. I wonder if their side can say the same?

Post: #57

Arg, all that buildup over the week.
I'll still go to the meetup I was going to go to, even though I think the location changed, not sure yet, still in contact with host.

Post: #58

I envision guys looking for a PetSmart on Saturday to buy some food for their yellow lab asking innocently "Do you know where I can find a pet shop?", and being flayed alive like on Game of Thrones...

Post: #59

I'm disheartened to know that the meetings were cancelled, but in the end the decision taken by Roosh was the most appropriate. This decision shows that Roosh cares about our security.

The only good thing about this SJW and government craziness is a LOT of free advertising made to the ROK page and the RVF. Thousands and thousands of clueless guys will find the neomasculinity and red pill philosophy thanks to this free promotion. Even the Anonymous freaks have served Roosh as unpaid marketers.

Post: #60

Now I'm going to focus on highlighting the threats shown to us and those who enabled the threats. If you have some time, we could use help with Operation Bullhorn: /thread-53509.html

Post: #61

Lizard of Oz made excellent points Roosh, it was a very good drill to know exactly how our enemies react to the thought of us mobilizing in the real world.

Since we "cancelled" the meet up, but you still have at least 40+ reliable tribe leaders in different countries here are somethings I suggest:

1 - Instead of trying to hold 165 meet ups in 43 countries for the first time, AT THE SAME TIME. Let's first build city to city logistics, by scheduling smaller number of meet ups at once, and then have a big scheduled world wide meet up (ONCE we have our city to city logics in place).

2 - We have to neutralize the card the media is using to mobilize local communities, which is the rape lie propaganda. An interesting idea would be if every tribe leader first created a "non-political" private club/meet-up, even if they are just fronts for the ROK tribe meet up.

As an example, every tribe leader in every city/country can create a private meetup page/club like "Men who lift club" or "Philosophy Friday club" or whatever with it's own meetup.com page and communication channel. even if they are literal fronts for our political meet up. Once these first logistics are in place instead of announcing a world wide political meet up, you can announce a "Men who lift world wide meet up", so the media has an incredible difficult time spinning the story into a rape advocate meet up, AND once the first meet up happens the media will have a hard time out maneuvering solidified logistics.

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3 - Some ways I think we can maximize our strengths as a group while playing our opponents weakness.

First, we aren't a mob, and so we can mobilize relatively fast compared to the media/feminists. The media NEEDS days, weeks in order to really work their propaganda machine effectively. All of the small groups world wide of 5-10 guys that were planning on meeting per city, did not need the nitty gritty details of where the meeting was going to take place weeks in advance. Instead we can dispatch to all the wanna be attendees what place in the city they should be around when the meet up occurs and reveal the meet up details at the last moment.

Instead of announcing exactly where to meet the day of the meet up, you can give a bigger, non-specific radius wanna be attendees should be at the day of the meet up, then the day of the meet up, when the mob of feminists comes together, the tribe leaders can inform you of the situation on the ground and make the meeting point as inconvenient as possible for mob (inside a big store, restaurant,whatever).

Post: #62

Roosh,

When this is all over and done with you HAVE to make a Youtube series about it like the Dispatches from the Battle of Toronto videos.

I'd be really interested to hear a recap of all the crazy shit you must be seeing now.

Post: #63

Roosh, this turn of events is unfortunate, but you made the right decision. Like you said, the chance of immediate violence was relatively low, but threats to people's jobs and identity can be very common from this crowd. Good to avoid that until this all dies down.

This week wasn't all bad. As it stands now, the feminists were the ones making all the actual threats of violence, and soon a few of them will be hearing from their bosses. Nobody on our side acted like that, so we'll all still have our jobs next week. We also gained a ton of free publicity.

We'll learn from this, and we can try it again in good time. When we do we'll be stronger and smarter, and the opposition will be weaker. You can't keep good men down!

Post: #64

Roosh has pressed the button. He has revealed what people hadn't noticed was there. The western male serfs of the world understand now what position they are in. Now they know something is up, that they are illusioned. A great service has been done by this. Even if it has been a demoralizing confirmation of what we had already guessed was true.

No doubt some big hitting monsters of the left had their hands in this. They cannot allow the western man to break his shakles.

At least some new men will be drawn in. Not every man is long gone and reduced to drone status. Some can at least get suspicious of a man being called pro-rape, for an article titled "how to stop rape", against a backdrop of European women now living under actual threat of rape by migrants.

For any men that have defiantly retained their sanity in the West, this furor will have illuminated the beacon of the manosphere to them.

Post: #65

Try again next month and enjoy the free publicity. If these 2 much heat, try again the month after...

All it will do is build a bigger army.

2017, we take back our country!!!

Post: #66

Let's go to the mattresses for a time.

Then, there must be a way, by putting our head's together to, through more private channels/emails reschedule another meet up.

I think these must eventually take place.

Post: #67

Our original meeting location was definitely a no-go after the local news coverage, headlined by a statement from the Governor.

A couple of us from the forum are moving forward with our own plans, to be determined. We are going out and having a fucking drink on Meetup Day. Even if it's for an hour, by ourselves, we will succeed here.

That said, we are sending out the bat signal to those that still want to go. PM if you want in. No newbies. If you have my number, feel free to text for info or help with details.

Post: #68

Momentary PR defeat. They'll try to claim victory over us. Tactically, they did have a victory.

Here's what to do next time, mentioned before:

1. Delegate municipal authority to trusted, repped forum members who have been to events in the past. Coordinating it through ROK was too unwieldy.
2. Have those people organize the local meets and vet members through secondary email addresses. Give them "proconsular authority," if you will.
3. "Publicize the locations" on ROK, but have them be false locations. Get them up in a froth and chase shadows. Particularly effective for mega cities.

Organization, organization, organization. This was, from what I saw, simply not organized enough to meet this level of resistance. We need a formal structure and organization like the Templars and Hospitallers, organized around lines seen in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Who wants to get a committee of sorts to talk about that?

Organize a new series of meetups in this manner in a month. Let them have their outrage train again. Problem solved. I think it's important to do it so we can have the last laugh in the end and show the world that we won't submit.

Have fun moving on to the next outrage, SJW's.

Post: #69

Current and potential future tribal meetup leaders:

Feel free to PM me. I've held dozens of successful meetups in my area. There is a system and process that works (link to meetup thread and etiquette in my signature) - both safe and effective at establishing and growing these groups for like-minded men. I'm more than happy to lend support and give advice.

Post: #70

Also, don't let the enemy's victory lap get to you. These are weak people who would be nothing without all major institutions supporting them.

Post: #71

(02-03-2016 10:15 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Current and potential future tribal meetup leaders:

Feel free to PM me. I've held dozens of successful meetups in my area. There is a system and process that works (link to meetup thread and etiquette in my signature) - both safe and effective at establishing and growing these groups for like-minded men. I'm more than happy to lend support and give advice.

Gmac for DC proconsul?

Roosh and Mike for consuls of the republic.

I'm only partially being facetious. Part of what I'm talking about is dual power - organize a new society in the shell of the old. Ironically, the strategy comes from Lenin and 19th century anarchists.

Post: #72

Hmm, so if Roosh publicly endorses, oh let's say Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, I wonder what kind of effect he would have on their campaigns right now, seeing as there are eyes on his writings right now.

Post: #73

(02-03-2016 10:06 PM)robreke Wrote:  Let's go to the mattresses for a time.

Then, there must be a way, by putting our head's together to, through more private channels/emails reschedule another meet up.

I think these must eventually take place.

Agreed, we need a way to communicate completely privately, a place that is really hard to DDOS.

Post: #74

My question is why was this a surprise? This was publically posted on RoK and RooshV, and RooshVforum for weeks. I couldn't believe this kind of thing was made publically available. If there's to be meet ups, we need a members only forum or done by private PM.

Post: #75

Roosh,

I would suggest appointing trusted lieutenants to help you. That is how groups like Freemasons and Elks are able to organize.