Post: #1

Unlimited free trade with no recognition of national borders can only lead to one result: your high-value, rich, low-population nations will be swarmed over and wiped out by the "out of control" parasitic poor nations. This is a problem that has never existed before the advent of the internet and cheap air travel. I mean, the United States didn't face this problem in the 1700s or 1800s or even up till 1990. We were protected naturally by the difficulty of traveling over the seas, and the limitations imposed by letters that took 6 days to travel internationally. There simply was no way for the poor people in India or Syria or wherever to swarm into our economy and gobble up all our trade into their unlimited gullets.

The US and Germany and Canada didn't need to worry about these things before. Our national governments were not designed for this.

Now we have literally, a million holes in our borders every day. A million Nigerian scammers stealing credit card numbers. A BILLION indians on the subcontinent who are starving and will do ANYTHING yes anything to survive. A billion Chinese who have wiped out their own nation, destroyed their ecosystem, and now they want to eat up the rest of the world too.

We either protect our trade and our lifestyle or we end up in a panic, lashing out in defense, waging a war of survival. That would involve nuclear weapons or other means of mass death.

Obama may be a good guy (or not) but there is one thing that marks him: he absolutely 100% believes that the American middle class is "too rich and too fat" and we should give away our possessions to all the poor starving masses of the world. Obama is obsessive about this. He cannot see that, when the middle class has already lost 80% of their savings, taking more will trigger a war.

How about the US using it's infinite, globe-spanning steel web of weaponry to declare war on the entire world? World War 3 could be started by US and it's goal is to A) shut down out of control population growth in cancerous nations and B) to drain wealth from the world economy into our pockets.

You think that is impossible? Everybody always underestimates how angry Americans can get when we are attacked. We roll over and ignore it for a long, long time and then when we lash out, it will be infinite and unstoppable.

Post: #2

I wonder what would happen if fanatic jihadists got their hands on nuclear weapons? For instance by flooding France, removing the French government, instituting sharia law instead and inheriting French missiles.

Post: #3

So tan 3rd world people want to work hard and earn a higher standard of living, and that will cause WW3?

Groundbreaking theory bro..

Post: #4

(02-01-2016 10:19 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  How about the US using it's infinite, globe-spanning steel web of weaponry to declare war on the entire world? World War 3 could be started by US and it's goal is to A) shut down out of control population growth in cancerous nations and B) to drain wealth from the world economy into our pockets.

You think that is impossible? Everybody always underestimates how angry Americans can get when we are attacked. We roll over and ignore it for a long, long time and then when we lash out, it will be infinite and unstoppable.

Talk about using a sledge hammer to bat away a fly. We can let the third world breed to its heart content and just prevent them from entering our territory, no need to invade and kill them. As for military intervention to acquire wealth, I can see that being somewhat profitable in a very few, highly select instances of natural resource rich nations but the overall chilling effects on international relations would outweigh any benefits. As for waging war on huge, crowded third world shitholes that have no natural resources, that is taking the L on every level.

Look. It's true. We've been fucked over for a very, very long time. But it's not the fault of the third worlders. It's the fault of our own parasitic elite. They are the ones you should channel your aggression towards, not the teeming masses in Nairobi or Baghdad.

Post: #5

If they were able to get nukes one would have found its way to them by now. Even when the soviets were selling everything no nukes went into any terrorist hands, not even to states whose leadership is mentally unstable.

You can track plutonium from space and through isotopes dotted around the globe and I am sure NORAD, NSA, CIA, MI6, Mossad have eyes and ears on nuclear ingredients and arms sales in every country.

To say a bunch of hysterical head choppers and their leaders have the capacity to overrun a country in order to lay their hands on some nukes is absurd. That would take decades and I would hazard a guess something would happen beforehand.

They can't even govern themselves for fucks sake.

Post: #6

Huh?

Post: #7

(02-01-2016 10:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  If they were able to get nukes one would have found its way to them by now. Even when the soviets were selling everything no nukes went into any terrorist hands, not even to states whose leadership is mentally unstable.

You can track plutonium from space and through isotopes dotted around the globe and I am sure NORAD, NSA, CIA, MI6, Mossad have eyes and ears on nuclear ingredients and arms sales in every country.

To say a bunch of hysterical head choppers and their leaders have the capacity to overrun a country in order to lay their hands on some nukes is absurd. That would take decades and I would hazard a guess something would happen beforehand.

They can't even govern themselves for fucks sake.

All this is true but what if they get nukes not by buying them in black market but by overpopulating and overthrowing a country that already has nukes? Like France or Germany?

Is this scenario realistic? Would other powers have to intervene and incinerate them before this happens? At what point would USA or Russia decide that France has became a Muslim country/territory just like Syria or ISIS is now and decide to attack it?

Post: #8

(02-01-2016 10:34 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 10:19 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  How about the US using it's infinite, globe-spanning steel web of weaponry to declare war on the entire world? World War 3 could be started by US and it's goal is to A) shut down out of control population growth in cancerous nations and B) to drain wealth from the world economy into our pockets.

You think that is impossible? Everybody always underestimates how angry Americans can get when we are attacked. We roll over and ignore it for a long, long time and then when we lash out, it will be infinite and unstoppable.

Talk about using a sledge hammer to bat away a fly. We can let the third world breed to its heart content and just prevent them from entering our territory, no need to invade and kill them. As for military intervention to acquire wealth, I can see that being somewhat profitable in a very few, highly select instances of natural resource rich nations but the overall chilling effects on international relations would outweigh any benefits. As for waging war on huge, crowded third world shitholes that have no natural resources, that is taking the L on every level.

Look. It's true. We've been fucked over for a very, very long time. But it's not the fault of the third worlders. It's the fault of our own parasitic elite. They are the ones you should channel your aggression towards, not the teeming masses in Nairobi or Baghdad.

It's not my aggression that will be the problem. It will be the aggression of a hundred million unemployed middle class workers in Sweden, Germany, and the UK. Europe is where this war will begin.

Ok maybe not nukes then. Maybe we use masses of killer drones and orbital kill-lasers (already developed) that slaughter people trying to cross the border.

Or...we can elect Trump and build walls, and stop H1B immigration. Then we persuade Europe to build their own walls. Let the poor sad masses of India die of starvation, but keep them at arm's length. Remember the first rule of being a lifeguard at the beach. If the drowning person panics and tries to pull you down (and they will) then you kick or punch them away and back off, and let them drown. This isn't "cruel" it's exactly what they teach lifeguards.

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Post: #10

This guy though, I don't even know where to begin bruh...

Sometimes your better off keeping this stuff to yourself & not opening up a thread for release.

Let me say no more.

Post: #11

(02-01-2016 10:19 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  Now we have literally, a million holes in our borders every day. A million Nigerian scammers stealing credit card numbers. A BILLION indians on the subcontinent who are starving and will do ANYTHING yes anything to survive. A billion Chinese who have wiped out their own nation, destroyed their ecosystem, and now they want to eat up the rest of the world too.

Nigerians Check
Indians Check
Chineses Check

Post: #12

I'll just wait for the datasheets to drop...

"How to crush pussy during the coming nuclear winter"
"Radiation mutant man game options"
"How to get your fallout shelter logistics on lock"
"Which gas mask gets it wet?"
"LINUX bangs the apocalypse"

Post: #13

Did the drunk lounge thread leak?

@h3

"How to convince HB9s to hunker down in your fallout bunker"

"I fought off 100 supermutants at the water hole last night"

Post: #14

(02-01-2016 10:33 AM)mickeyd Wrote:  So tan 3rd world people want to work hard and earn a higher standard of living, and that will cause WW3?

Groundbreaking theory bro..

I think you're lost. Reddit is thataway.

(02-01-2016 11:37 AM)1026 Wrote:  This guy though, I don't even know where to begin bruh...

Sometimes your better off keeping this stuff to yourself & not opening up a thread for release.

Let me say no more.

What the fuck is with posts like this lately? You disagree, how about you articulate why like an adult instead of this kind of drive-by crap.

(02-01-2016 11:16 AM)h3ltrsk3ltr Wrote:  

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.

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There's no real reason for the US to be aggressive. Simply stop enabling our enemies. Halt most immigration for awhile, actually do something about illegal immigration and the swarms of illegals in the country, and stop handing out aid that just ends up funding the people who want to kill us. I think it is vanishingly unlikely that any of those things will happen.

I'm not particularly worried about nuclear war. While I think it's a real possibility a terrorist nuke will go off in a western city before too long, nukes aren't something just anyone can pull out of a dusty locker and use. They take maintenance and old nukes need to be refurbished before they will work. The countries with the technological base and money to stockpile nuclear ICBMs are too smart to use them against countries who can shoot back.

I do think something very ugly is on its way. I just hope I'm in a better position to ride it out when it comes than I am now.

Post: #15

Quote:I think you're lost. Reddit is thataway.

What the fuck is with posts like this lately? You disagree, how about you articulate why like an adult instead of this kind of drive-by crap.

Post: #16

(02-01-2016 12:40 PM)mickeyd Wrote:  

Quote:I think you're lost. Reddit is thataway.

What the fuck is with posts like this lately? You disagree, how about you articulate why like an adult instead of this kind of drive-by crap.

You're not getting it, are you? Your original comment was an empty, snarky little bitch-made sentence with zero premise or logic. He told you to gtfo out of here with these types of comments because empty snark contributes nothing of value and cannot be refuted as it doesn't assert anything aside from its author being a moron.

Post: #17

Weambulance(?) has it. No reason for the US to be the aggressor when nearly the whole goddamn world is behind it in terms of almost everything.

Halting immigration temporarily as proposed by Trump is the way to go. Slaughtering fuckers with next to nothing with drones? You really believe that's the solution?

Your own elite is the problem. The US army can wipe out the ISIS in a week. For whatever twisted reason, the US bigwigs take great pleasure in enabling criminals from shitty cultures instead of deporting them.

ISIS get a nuke? Unless they're practically handed one, I predict that'll never happen.

However, I could very possibly be wrong due to most forum members having seen the world more than me.

Post: #18

I'm still stuck on linking Nigerian scammers with a nuclear world war.

Post: #19

Starting this thread was very satisfying. Maybe it should in the "politics" section.

Post: #20

Fallout 5: Zanesville