Post: #26

(12-12-2015 09:50 PM)Laner Wrote:  I love this about China right now. These are the first girls to be caught out in the storm of Sex and the City lifestyle. For some reason, I can't see it happening for too long. The herd mentality in China seems to be strong, and when this generation of women gets burned, the younger ones see this mess and start acting accordingly.

I have been all over the ages category in China in the last few weeks. From 22 to 34. The younger girls are sweet, terrible in bed but are just happy to be desired and be with me. The older girls are very sexy, dress well and can fuck like champs. One girl had a Perfect 10 body, unlike any other I have ever seen. But she was a player and her girl friends hated her.

To guys like us, it can be laughable as we can see right through their games. I give no indication of future with them, though I do bait them with "I see some adventures in our future". Girls pushing or over 30 have money, and love to travel. I could pick one of 5 girls right now who would meet me for Chinese New Years in some exotic locale. They like to play up their options on WeChat, but notice the level of quality of Chinese men goes down with each passing year.

To be honest, these types of Chinese women fit perfectly into my lifestyle at the moment. They are classy, smart, wealthy and attractive. They also find my mysterious lifestyle alluring. I reserve my feelings for the younger girls and just enjoy the older women for what they are to me; a pleasant and highly sensual distraction.

What is the best way to find them in you live in North America?

Post: #27

Extinction is forever. If they don't have kids, but want them, and are over 26....

Think about the consequences of your actions.

Post: #28

If they clearly stated to you that they want kids, and are viewing you as serious settling down material, I would probably try to avoid after a while. They might be pressuring you too much as well.
I agree probably if you DO decide to tag along, you should definitely give a super beta vibe, since this is China, at least until the winter is over. If you are giving off a player vibe it might not work well with them for this type of situation.
Also what is your age? If you are young it might be a different story.

Post: #29

(12-12-2015 09:59 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:50 PM)Laner Wrote:  I love this about China right now. These are the first girls to be caught out in the storm of Sex and the City lifestyle. For some reason, I can't see it happening for too long. The herd mentality in China seems to be strong, and when this generation of women gets burned, the younger ones see this mess and start acting accordingly.

I have been all over the ages category in China in the last few weeks. From 22 to 34. The younger girls are sweet, terrible in bed but are just happy to be desired and be with me. The older girls are very sexy, dress well and can fuck like champs. One girl had a Perfect 10 body, unlike any other I have ever seen. But she was a player and her girl friends hated her.

To guys like us, it can be laughable as we can see right through their games. I give no indication of future with them, though I do bait them with "I see some adventures in our future". Girls pushing or over 30 have money, and love to travel. I could pick one of 5 girls right now who would meet me for Chinese New Years in some exotic locale. They like to play up their options on WeChat, but notice the level of quality of Chinese men goes down with each passing year.

To be honest, these types of Chinese women fit perfectly into my lifestyle at the moment. They are classy, smart, wealthy and attractive. They also find my mysterious lifestyle alluring. I reserve my feelings for the younger girls and just enjoy the older women for what they are to me; a pleasant and highly sensual distraction.

What is the best way to find them in you live in North America?

As I am 'stringing them along' I just set aside some time to wechat with them every week or so until I am back in Asia. I am under no illusion that they are not doing their utmost to land a good man, but I also know that I could have them all to myself if that was the direction I wanted to go.

I live in Vancouver, so these moneyed up jetset women are all over the place. Its also not not hard to get Chinese girls to come to Vancouver in the summer. The best way to find them is to hit up lounges that serve high end desserts and tapas. The best way to meet them is through friends.

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Post: #31

(12-09-2015 11:16 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  1 - I still must not be the kind of man I want to be if older party girls see me as a life preserver after years of being banged by good looking dudes. I went out with one girl to a popular club and there was a guy much better looking than me / more dominant personality that clearly has hit and quit her. So I must be a step down and safer. Or at least she sees me as a good guy that she can control to marry her. That's not a good sign, but its eye opening that I'm not doing a good enough job with myself. More work is needed. I'm ready for the challenge.

While there may be other reasons to not "string along" women nearing their expiration date, you're way overthinking this part here.

Game is game. A seducer is a seducer. We don't all come in the same package with the same bag of tricks in our arsenal.

Read Robert Greene's "48 Laws of Power" or "The Art of Seduction," as you likely have, and you see how power and the battle for it plays out in so many different forms. Much like in nature how all the different players in the animal kingdom have different tools and techniques for survival, some masking their weapons and others puttting them on display, some beating their chests and others blending into their surroundings so they can sneak up for the kill while their victims sleep.

For example, I may not be the strongest closer, but women always want to date me long-term or marry me once they get involved, even if it starts out as casual sex. I long ago decided women just cannot keep emotions out of a fuck buddy relationship. Other players tell me this conclusion about women being unable to separate sex and emotion isn't true - but that's not my experience at all. I guess I'm a "keeper."

Why? I guess I seem like a wildman on the surface, but when women get in my sphere, I seem very tameable. As we know, a lot of girls want to tame the bad boy. In the long run this tameable vibe proves to be untrue when I lose interest and leave them holding their hearts in their hands (not necessarily on purpose but just because that's who I am too) - meanwhile, I often get deep and sensitive and cuddle like a little bitch.

I'm not being fake with this, either. I do enjoy connecting with women on a real level, and I do enjoy being tangled in a woman's limbs all the way until morning.

But my point is - does the fact that they see me as "a keeper" make me any less of a player or somehow less "alpha"? I don't think so; it just makes me a different kind.

And do I question what kind of man this makes me?

No. Why should I? Is enjoying women unmanly?

It makes me a happy man is what it does. It makes me a man who has enjoyed a lot of great sexual and emotional experiences with women. I've banged way more women than most of my normal friends and yet still had way more genuine connections and relationships with women than most of my strictly player friends who've racked up more notches.

To me, that is a nice, balanced approach to life, love, and sex.

Is it so bad to have females wanting to spend their entire lives with you or stay in touch for years and years on end, even after all the times you've crushed them?

Hell no.

How could it be bad to always have those options on such an intense level? It's a different power, but it's clearly a very intoxicating and effective one.

I'm not encouraging you to be dishonest with anyone. I'm not even encouraging you to continue spending time with worn out club sluts.

But know your strengths and play to them without being ashamed, and know your weaknesses and do what you can to minimize their effect (or use them as camaflouge). Because the dance of seduction has many different plots.

On another note, so what if a guy looks like he banged her and is all nonchalant...? Really, so fucking what?

Assuming your read is even correct, which it very well may not be, what's really going on in that guy's head right now? For all you know, he wanted to bang her more but upholding his "image" didn't allow him to set his defenses down long enough.

Or, yeah, maybe he did decide she wasn't "good enough" to hang around with and be seen with in public....what is that to you? You're not planning to marry them anyways.

Meanwhile, you're banging two still very hot women unapologetically and enjoying yourself - you're not afraid to be seen in public with them because you're more interested in actually getting the most out of them and their feminine gifts...so, who's the alpha? Who is having more fun? Not to mention you're enjoying all that great repeat sex after the initial awkwardness is gone.

What matters is you're getting the job done and having fun. If it's because these girls see you as an easy target or a safe bet, that doesn't mean those assumptions about you are true or even partly true just because they have them - it just means your persona is opening doors for you.

So, if you don't care about other guys banging these women, I say don't worry about how they manage the pussy either. It has nothing to do with you and your enjoyment of life.

No matter how much you improve your "game," there will always be a guy better than you or with more of a complete package. Don't fall into the trap of comparing yourself to your assumed superiors.

There's no need to be the surface-level "apex predator" to kill it out there.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #32

This was surprisingly eye-opening. I'm only 25 so I tend to forget just how much more time I have left (at least 7-10). That post of the three bromigos blog (linked by one of the posts on this thread) and the article the blogger linked to took me down a rabbit hole of my psyche for several hours and made me realize that it would be so irrational to settle down right now, when I haven't even hit my prime. Thank you for sharing that.

Post: #33

@ Beyond Borders,

That was some serious game advice dropped. What a great and well put together post. Thanks and I'm sure others will get something from it as well.

As a side note to this I have a date with a Javanese / Singaporean girl tomorrow night which is my "off night" away from the two mentioned in this thread. Though one of the girls I hung out with today made a hard pivot to "is this or isn't this a LTR?". This was after driving me around, buying me stuff, buying lunch, going back to my place, and two rounds of over the top sex which by her vagina grabbing me and screaming was even better for her than me. I was evasive but its hard to be evasive point blank after epic sex. I'll see what happens.

Post: #34

(12-12-2015 08:14 PM)Suits Wrote:  This is the wrong time to be asking these questions.



The cold weather months are a hibernation period for Chinese women. You've got two plates that are giving you great sex. Keep banging them until spring when the short skirts come out and then look for upgrades.

They aren't getting any younger, but I'm sure they both have enough gas in the tank to last you till April.

Don't worry about giving off too much of a potential provider vibe. This is what is getting repeated access to pussy. While ONS are exciting, we've all had those and it's a lot more work to get one bang per girl than to get repeated bangs from the same piece of ass.

Meanwhile, I'd love to hear some stories about their honeypotting techniques.

How have I been honeypotted, let me count the ways:

1 - One of the girls was a dancer in clubs (red flag) and knows all the people at the big clubs in town and all the foreign guys with money, even their nick names (red flags) but when we go out we get free tables and drinks at expensive places - 1200rmb+ tables at high end clubs we can chill out on a nice sofa with free drinks / fruit plates.

2 - Both do this kind of stuff: Washing my clothes, cleaning my place, buying me presents, driving me all over the city (I don't own a car), always coming to me since I don't want to waste the time going to them.

3 - Just being so emotionally pleasant all the time is incredible. No whining, no fuss, never late, never flake, show up outside my place and wait in their car while I get ready, and never, ever, go against some idea I have - my plans are always great ones.

4 - Epic sex. Ready, willing and able for anything.

I do see myself slowly becoming glazed over by this kind of behavior though. And I have to keep my mouth shut and not be a complete dick while I listen to their life stories.

One today, her story: Her friend who was seeing a foreigner, and cheating on him with two other foreigners, the guy she was seeing mysteriously died, she got some money somehow from him dying, and she ended up married and with a child 2 months later with a 4th guy. Her other friend has had sex with every decent looking foreigner in the city apparently, "but is a good person". I somehow missed the boat on that one, maybe later. Another friend is in her late 30's with a 40 year old foreigner engineer and have been together for a year but don't speak a common language. See the trend? Hot for western dick, can't get enough, cheating on everyone, can't figure out why they're not married yet. Hard to keep silent but I think its actually good practice and making me less of a dick. Though that might not be a good thing.

Post: #35

(12-13-2015 05:42 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  I'm not being fake with this, either. I do enjoy connecting with women on a real level, and I do enjoy being tangled in a woman's limbs all the way until morning.

But my point is - does the fact that they see me as "a keeper" make me any less of a player or somehow less "alpha"? I don't think so; it just makes me a different kind.

And do I question what kind of man this makes me?

No. Why should I? Is enjoying women unmanly?

It makes me a happy man is what it does. It makes me a man who has enjoyed a lot of great sexual and emotional experiences with women. I've banged way more women than most of my normal friends and yet still had way more genuine connections and relationships with women than most of my strictly player friends who've racked up more notches.

To me, that is a nice, balanced approach to life, love, and sex.

Is it so bad to have females wanting to spend their entire lives with you or stay in touch for years and years on end, even after all the times you've crushed them?

Hell no.

How could it be bad to always have those options on such an intense level? It's a different power, but it's clearly a very intoxicating and effective one.

I'm not encouraging you to be dishonest with anyone. I'm not even encouraging you to continue spending time with worn out club sluts.

But know your strengths and play to them without being ashamed, and know your weaknesses and do what you can to minimize their effect (or use them as camaflouge). Because the dance of seduction has many different plots.

On another note, so what if a guy looks like he banged her and is all nonchalant...? Really, so fucking what?

Assuming your read is even correct, which it very well may not be, what's really going on in that guy's head right now? For all you know, he wanted to bang her more but upholding his "image" didn't allow him to set his defenses down long enough.

Or, yeah, maybe he did decide she wasn't "good enough" to hang around with and be seen with in public....what is that to you? You're not planning to marry them anyways.

Meanwhile, you're banging two still very hot women unapologetically and enjoying yourself - you're not afraid to be seen in public with them because you're more interested in actually getting the most out of them and their feminine gifts...so, who's the alpha? Who is having more fun? Not to mention you're enjoying all that great repeat sex after the initial awkwardness is gone.

What matters is you're getting the job done and having fun. If it's because these girls see you as an easy target or a safe bet, that doesn't mean those assumptions about you are true or even partly true just because they have them - it just means your persona is opening doors for you.

So, if you don't care about other guys banging these women, I say don't worry about how they manage the pussy either. It has nothing to do with you and your enjoyment of life.

No matter how much you improve your "game," there will always be a guy better than you or with more of a complete package. Don't fall into the trap of comparing yourself to your assumed superiors.

There's no need to be the surface-level "apex predator" to kill it out there.

Wow BB, that was a fantastic post. Its hard to explain to guys that there is a better balance and approach to life than just pounding vag and moving on. Its nice to get advice like this when young, and I absolutely agree that young players should pay attention, but its when a guy gets older that he can really start to relate. I see it much clearer now when I can look back at my life and see many relationships, no matter how seemingly short, that I was able to genuinely connect with a woman.

Also you mention to no worry about the other guys. This advice alone is worth years of extra life on a man. Of all the things in life to sweat, why would it be who a girl has banged in the past. I know this might sound "cuck" but I most often get along great with guys who my side pieces have banged in the past. Same goes for when our relationship has run its course and we are now just friends, their current guys are often cool and we can hang out and be friendly. Unless they are sweating her past lovers, in which case I know their days are numbered anyway.

Women love a confident man who can be a rock in any situation and make the best out of it.

(12-13-2015 08:22 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  How have I been honeypotted, let me count the ways:

1 - One of the girls was a dancer in clubs (red flag) and knows all the people at the big clubs in town and all the foreign guys with money, even their nick names (red flags) but when we go out we get free tables and drinks at expensive places - 1200rmb+ tables at high end clubs we can chill out on a nice sofa with free drinks / fruit plates.

2 - Both do this kind of stuff: Washing my clothes, cleaning my place, buying me presents, driving me all over the city (I don't own a car), always coming to me since I don't want to waste the time going to them.

3 - Just being so emotionally pleasant all the time is incredible. No whining, no fuss, never late, never flake, show up outside my place and wait in their car while I get ready, and never, ever, go against some idea I have - my plans are always great ones.

4 - Epic sex. Ready, willing and able for anything.

I do see myself slowly becoming glazed over by this kind of behavior though. And I have to keep my mouth shut and not be a complete dick while I listen to their life stories.

One today, her story: Her friend who was seeing a foreigner, and cheating on him with two other foreigners, the guy she was seeing mysteriously died, she got some money somehow from him dying, and she ended up married and with a child 2 months later with a 4th guy. Her other friend has had sex with every decent looking foreigner in the city apparently, "but is a good person". I somehow missed the boat on that one, maybe later. Another friend is in her late 30's with a 40 year old foreigner engineer and have been together for a year but don't speak a common language. See the trend? Hot for western dick, can't get enough, cheating on everyone, can't figure out why they're not married yet. Hard to keep silent but I think its actually good practice and making me less of a dick. Though that might not be a good thing.

Always keep in mind that women are slaves to their emotions. If they feel for a moment that they want to make a guy jealous, they will. No explanation, just do. This is exactly why these current Chinese party girls are setting themselves up for an even bigger disappointment. The 'carousel' can be a very distracting and sensory overload, where women will start to hold men like men do women. The difference is that men have a logical reason to being with multiple women if he is looking for a relationship. For women, its the worst. They become ADD and have trouble focusing on their desired outcome, and especially on how to achieve it.

Post: #36

(12-13-2015 12:47 PM)Laner Wrote:  Also you mention to no worry about the other guys. This advice alone is worth years of extra life on a man. Of all the things in life to sweat, why would it be who a girl has banged in the past. I know this might sound "cuck" but I most often get along great with guys who my side pieces have banged in the past. Same goes for when our relationship has run its course and we are now just friends, their current guys are often cool and we can hang out and be friendly. Unless they are sweating her past lovers, in which case I know their days are numbered anyway.

I have to call you out, that is just strange.

Post: #37

(12-13-2015 05:42 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Why? I guess I seem like a wildman on the surface, but when women get in my sphere, I seem very tameable. As we know, a lot of girls want to tame the bad boy. In the long run this tameable vibe proves to be untrue when I lose interest and leave them holding their hearts in their hands (not necessarily on purpose but just because that's who I am too) - meanwhile, I often get deep and sensitive and cuddle like a little bitch.

I'm not being fake with this, either. I do enjoy connecting with women on a real level, and I do enjoy being tangled in a woman's limbs all the way until morning.

But my point is - does the fact that they see me as "a keeper" make me any less of a player or somehow less "alpha"? I don't think so; it just makes me a different kind.

Not at all. Most of the top-level players I've met are like that. That's why men have that bit of feminine energy in them: it allows to communicate with, understand, and lead females more effectively than we could otherwise.

Quote:See the trend? Hot for western dick, can't get enough, cheating on everyone, can't figure out why they're not married yet. Hard to keep silent but I think its actually good practice and making me less of a dick. Though that might not be a good thing.

It's a good thing because it's a key sales skill...and what is game other than a form of salesmanship with sex as the price?

Best way I can put it is by referring to an acquaintance of mine who owns a small brokerage. He's told me repeatedly that the best salesmen know how to shut up, are good listeners, and know when to jump in with just the right question to keep a prospect talking. The more you know about them the more power you have over them.

Post: #38

(12-13-2015 01:11 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 12:47 PM)Laner Wrote:  Also you mention to no worry about the other guys. This advice alone is worth years of extra life on a man. Of all the things in life to sweat, why would it be who a girl has banged in the past. I know this might sound "cuck" but I most often get along great with guys who my side pieces have banged in the past. Same goes for when our relationship has run its course and we are now just friends, their current guys are often cool and we can hang out and be friendly. Unless they are sweating her past lovers, in which case I know their days are numbered anyway.

I have to call you out, that is just strange.

Our minds are in very different places right now, you and me. Remember that I was where you are now, two years ago.

I will never be in a committed relationship with these women. So why would I care who they have been with in the past. As for the future, I do hope they are happy and will be supportive of them if they choose to desire happiness. I am not a dramatic man.

I will never play bitter ex boyfriend. Its not me.

Post: #39

^^^ "Thou shall not covet"

Laner you are a bigger man than I am.

Most girls that I stop hooking up with want zero contact w/me.

Surprisingly her friends (if I see them) are very cordial w/me.

To each their own. For myself, the girls usually have some deep seated resentment, envy or bitterness when it ends.

Post: #40

(12-13-2015 06:23 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  This was surprisingly eye-opening. I'm only 25 so I tend to forget just how much more time I have left (at least 7-10). That post of the three bromigos blog (linked by one of the posts on this thread) and the article the blogger linked to took me down a rabbit hole of my psyche for several hours and made me realize that it would be so irrational to settle down right now, when I haven't even hit my prime. Thank you for sharing that.

You're welcome.

It's a razors edge, this life. I think most people inclined to this way of living have that one encounter that haunts them. The girl with whom everything went deep, the connection, the sex, and all the rest. And due to these or those circumstances, are no longer with or in contact.

I know I do.

It's due to those encounters that I never thought I'd sometimes look to one of my high school mates, who married his first and only girlfriend that he has two kids with, with some kind of envy.

There is no need to settle down, we have time, that is true. It is wise I think to understand that this is a blessing and a curse.

Post: #41

(12-14-2015 05:21 AM)DVY Wrote:  ^^^ "Thou shall not covet"

Laner you are a bigger man than I am.

Most girls that I stop hooking up with want zero contact w/me.

Surprisingly her friends (if I see them) are very cordial w/me.

To each their own. For myself, the girls usually have some deep seated resentment, envy or bitterness when it ends.

That just shows that you never fell for their bullshit. When a girl runs what she thinks is elite game, and you just move on (with some added drama) she gets the validation that she craves.

If you move on due to "complicated reasons" she is free to make up her own story. BB talks about using "broken heart game". This has been a staple of mine for many years. The only way this can actually work is if its true, women can feel emotions through empathy. This shit is crack to romantic women.

Its funny that her friends are cordial to you. Always remember that the woman who has the most drama in her life, is the center of attention. Secretly they all want a piece of that drama.

(12-14-2015 08:23 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 06:23 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  This was surprisingly eye-opening. I'm only 25 so I tend to forget just how much more time I have left (at least 7-10). That post of the three bromigos blog (linked by one of the posts on this thread) and the article the blogger linked to took me down a rabbit hole of my psyche for several hours and made me realize that it would be so irrational to settle down right now, when I haven't even hit my prime. Thank you for sharing that.

You're welcome.

It's a razors edge, this life. I think most people inclined to this way of living have that one encounter that haunts them. The girl with whom everything went deep, the connection, the sex, and all the rest. And due to these or those circumstances, are no longer with or in contact.

I know I do.

It's due to those encounters that I never thought I'd sometimes look to one of my high school mates, who married his first and only girlfriend that he has two kids with, with some kind of envy.

There is no need to settle down, we have time, that is true. It is wise I think to understand that this is a blessing and a curse.

The double edge sword is that men will pass up what are most likely excellent partners for more time on the field. Women will pass up good husbands for more time chasing their emotions. Its the world we live in now.

I think myself partly damaged and likely to never know monogamy even though I demand it in my women.

Post: #42

(12-14-2015 08:23 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 06:23 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  This was surprisingly eye-opening. I'm only 25 so I tend to forget just how much more time I have left (at least 7-10). That post of the three bromigos blog (linked by one of the posts on this thread) and the article the blogger linked to took me down a rabbit hole of my psyche for several hours and made me realize that it would be so irrational to settle down right now, when I haven't even hit my prime. Thank you for sharing that.

You're welcome.

It's a razors edge, this life. I think most people inclined to this way of living have that one encounter that haunts them. The girl with whom everything went deep, the connection, the sex, and all the rest. And due to these or those circumstances, are no longer with or in contact.

I know I do.

It's due to those encounters that I never thought I'd sometimes look to one of my high school mates, who married his first and only girlfriend that he has two kids with, with some kind of envy.

There is no need to settle down, we have time, that is true. It is wise I think to understand that this is a blessing and a curse.

You nailed it. It actually happened to me this past year, met a girl like none before. We got along so well, it was amazing. But she was 23 and "not ready for anything". Things fell apart quickly and in an absolutely horrible way. It was a blessing in disguise, even though I couldn't see it back then. But yes, that one experience put me on this path.

Post: #43

(12-14-2015 05:24 PM)Laner Wrote:  BB talks about using "broken heart game". This has been a staple of mine for many years. The only way this can actually work is if its true, women can feel emotions through empathy. This shit is crack to romantic women.

How dare you expose me and my sensitive little heart?

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #44

Id love a breakdown on broken heart game.

The closest thing I got to it was a Japanese girl who I dated for about 2-3 months then "broke up" with after she moved back to Japan. This was 2 years ago.

She emailed me in August that she still missed me and booked a flight to USA to come see me and go to dance school (pretext likely) for 3 months.

Smoothest break-up to re-make that I've had.

It really puts credence to what G manifesto talked about back in the day about traveling to break up with girls.

Post: #45

(12-17-2015 03:30 PM)DVY Wrote:  Id love a breakdown on broken heart game.

You're talking about something very different.

Fuck, I wouldn't even know how to break it down. I'll try?

My heart is eternally broken in some ways. lol Yeah I know how gay that sounds, but I just mean I've had enough dysfunction in my past that all it takes is a few beers and the wrong mood and I'm there - alcohol is great for supporting your illusions or bringing old ones back.

And all self pity aside, my past is pretty heavy, to be honest.

Digging for food in the dumpster with dad as a kid. Growing up in a shattered home with pops in prison ten years. Drugs and booze around you every day. Overdosed father and uncle - good old heroin. Then break out of that only to lose everything twice and have a hit put on your life and flee the country. Among other things....

I mean, I don't wear it on my shoulder but there's always something you can dig down and dredge up to feel gloomy about when that's your past.

I'm (usually unconsciously...okay, halfway unconscously) emotionally manipulative enough to play it up when the opening presents itself. It has also allowed me to get away with some dirty shit and blame it on my emotional state. And in the past I've been known to post up somewhere to have a few drinks and drown it down. To be clear, it would be very rare for me to play it up all night - you've still got to be a fun person.

I think Laner was referring to my post about showing up to completely local Filipino spots by myself and when tables full of girls inevitably ask me why I'm there alone looking at them and saying "Maybe I'm heartbroken," with an ambiguous enough look so they can't tell if I'm joking or not.

And maybe part of me isn't on those particular nights - that's what Laner was grabbing on to. Not like you really need to do that kind of thing here anyhow, as you know, but the response is entertaining, to say the least.

I do think even in the western world there's this sweet spot of heartbroken game where women want to catch "the catch" just after he left a relationship, though. There's a certain romance to that. A chance moment you might read about in a sappy love story. Much like we know high quality women aren't normally single, I think women believe the best guys are already taken, so that's a small window of opportunity in their mind.

And women are nurturers.

Think about all the times you just got out of a relationship and were suddenly buried in pussy for a short time if you just nutted up enough to jump in there. Probably helped that you didn't give a shit how the night ended. Wait too long and let the moment pass, and you're just another single guy again.

Unless...unless you're a sensitive sap and can play any rejection or failed fuck buddy or mini relationship up as a heart break, of course, or life in general. I find myself doing that sometimes half consciously when it suits me...That moment when you're almost looking down at yourself from above and thinking, "You shameless Motherfucker." Haha

Then the possibilities are endless.

I remember one time I was upset about something I heard about an ex girlfriend, even though I already had a new girlfriend. And I hooked up with this little whore I knew and just jizzed in her mouth...and without a word stood up and walked into the living room, cracked a beer, sat on the couch, and turned on some music. haha

A little while later she was in there crying to me about how much of a whore I made her feel like. "Sorry, I told you I'm in a bad mood tonight. Maybe you should leave." A little bit later she was sucking my dick again.

That's drunken a-hole heartbreak game, I guess. I mean, she was the town bike, so it was no big accomplishment. haha But still...

As Laner said, if women believe it, it's possible there's some truth to it, and I would agree I take even short term encounters with women pretty personally. I don't cater to them but I connect with them enough that even when I leave them by my own accord, which is most often the case, I don't easily forget and sometimes I reel a bit in the aftermath even if I'm waist deep in pussy.

Maybe catch myself in a bar listening to sappy love tunes until some slut walks in and snaps me out of it....

I guess I'm a sensitive guy, but I don't know if my game is conscious enough to break it down to be honest, so I'm kind of shooting from the hip here and mentally masturbating. But that's the best I can recollect. In any case, I would say a newly single guy who needs some attention is an attractive potential for certain women, and at the very least he can slip some ahole behavior by the radar.

And a guy that's got a slight enough dysfunction to seem fixable but not enough to be a loon, I think that has its appeal too. These broads do enjoy a fixer upper, in my experience.

Growing up with a single mom, I watched those broads throw it all away on fixer uppers my whole life, so I guess it's a style of game I came to know intimately without really thinking it through.

So yeah, heartbreak game. I don't know if I'd prescribe it to anyone as something they should fake, but it's got a nice ring to it.

Maybe one of you guys who some actual game can play around with it and report how it unfolds.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #46

In my experience it's riskier since they're more likely to have an accident and get knocked up. If you're happy to take that risk go for it, personally I've been burned once (she had a miscarriage in the end) and now I get a bit paranoid if the girl is older than me + doing the honeypot thing.

I just say yes when they ask if I'm seeing someone else and then break it off from there, there's plenty of more women so it's really not worth the risk and hassle. The older ones are damaged too which can blow up in your face easily.

Post: #47

Well that didn't last as long as I had hoped! At 5 weeks the first one ghosted. Second one sent me a message today saying that she doesn't think we are a good match, she was about 7 weeks.

The Good:

- 7 weeks of non-flake ideal sex and comfort. Comfort, I think, is too often overlooked in gaming. Something to be said about big tits waiting for a nice motorboat and spooning post sex. Its nice getting notches but solid, dependable good sex with nurturing, yet slutty girls is extremely pleasant.

- Let me work on other things I needed to attend to and not worry about getting laid for a while.

- After being in some longer relationships with normal women I got a chance to see behind the curtain more of extreme sluts. More in the Hilarious section.

The Bad

- While I was with these girls I did a fair amount of off day dating and the flakiness in the winter is brutal. Even worse than in the summer. Winter isn't coming, its already here. Luckily the winter holiday is over with and now I have 7 weeks of paid holiday. Philippines? Cebu seems to have a winter holiday about Christianity, not sure if that ended already.

- Something I read about before, which was also mentioned in the Bi-polar thread, when an intense slut that is incredible in the sack is around for a while they work hard to build a dependency in the other person. This has been called "peak serotonin" by other bloggers. Getting incredible lays again and again delivers an extreme amount of serotonin to the body over time and this make it hard to let go afterwards. The next chicks are unlucky to deliver the same. Or at least, this is the best couple months of high octane fucking that I've had in a couple years. I haven't had a Philippines hunting trip before though, I went for scuba diving previously and brought my own chick.

- I will miss their hilarious stories.

The Hilarious

- Post pillow talk the stories were as redpill and illusion shattering as possible. Im glad Ive been a part of this forum so that I wasn't blindsided by them.

1- One girl's friend who is a teacher at a university in the city likes to get trained on by African students at the school. She takes as many guys as she can. 30+ years old and looking to get married by some shumck who has no idea.

2- One girl kept saying she is totally independent, except her mother pays her rent, her father pays her car payment, her mother paid for her fake tits and eye surgery, she needs another surgery for some tumor inside her and her dad will pay 30,000yuan, she just got her salary reduced by 20% but she already can't make pay her bills and lifestyle. She was hoping I would start giving her an allowance "so she could live more comfortably and be happier, that's what boyfriends do for girlfriends". I asked her what would happen when she gets married. She said her husband should pay for everything and she can use her salary for her life.

3- One girl's best friend has a job at a bank where she tries to get rich men to invest money. Her job is to go out drinking and have sex with high net worth guys to have them put their money in the bank she works for. I remember before that girl's boyfriend was always jealous and overprotective. I don't think he knows exactly what her job is, but knows enough to be over protective. I hope guy has enough sensibility not to marry that girl.

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Overall a good experience for me but a sad one. Brazilian booty or fake tits on Chinese girls isn't common. I got to experience both. I salute them for their hard work with Mr. ball don't lie, but they will be missed.

Post: #48

if you think they are both banging other guys then keep banging them both untill you want to dip and then do that.

Post: #49

I once had a girl bite and pull on my tongue so hard that the next day, it had swelled up significantly and appeared to be sprained. I could barely eat food and ended seeing a doctor after a few days.

Fortunately, I healed up after about a week.

Post: #50

Consider a modification to your frame. When you say I must still not be the kind of man I want to be, and then make that dependent on; if the older party girls see me as a life line, you are basing part of your self-worth on what someone with a bag of cats in their head is possible projecting. Who cares what they think, Your value comes from you brother. You determine the kind of man you want to be and then become that man through the application of your attention over time.

audentis fortuna iuvat.