Post: #1

This thread is sadly inspired by the most recent shooting in Southern California.

We can post the latest major shootings/mass shootings on here.

Mass Shooting In San Bernardino




Unfortunately these things are becoming all so common:

Shooting at a DC Navy Yard

Credit: SigmundSauer


Oregon College Shooting

Credit: Mother Russia


Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting

Credit: Tex Pro


UC Santa Barbara Isla Vista Shooting

Credit: Moreless


9 people killed in shooting at black church in Charleston, S.C.

Credit: mikado


7 killed, including gunman, in Wisconsin shooting

Credit: Roosh



14 people killed during Batman premiere

Credit: Roosh


Unfortunately the list goes on and on and keeps growing.

Post: #2

Mass shootings are noteworthy enough to go in their own thread, but more minor shootings (less than 4 people) can go here, along with general shooting rampage commentary.

Post: #3

Related thought:

Has it crossed anyone else's mind that the way prescription drugs helped make all these guys crazy might be a big part of why they are pushing said drugs on society so hard?

Post: #4

New Orleans Playground Shooting on Nov 22 - 17 injured
http://time.com/4128741/man-arrested-new...-shooting/

Post: #5

Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

Coincidence? More people playing more shooter video games? More divisiveness in the USA due to the political / culture climate?
Global warming ?

Post: #6

Some come off as a false flag. Newton Ct, Boston, and this all scream false flag.

The lone gunman situations have an edge of looney to them. I honestly think they just snapped in this over coddled environment that is a sexual playland for women. Being an incel must be hell when you have scantily clad women walking everywhere.

Post: #7

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

Coincidence? More people playing more shooter video games? More divisiveness in the USA due to the political / culture climate?
Global warming ?

I expect it is at least related to the recent rise in mental illness

Post: #8

We've had this discussion before: YOU ARE LYING. Violent crime in the United States is dropping, not increasing:





Also see Steven Pinker on the topic.

You are either on the side of truth, or you are evil. You have been utterly refuted and this isn't the first time I've called you on your bullshit - crime is not increasing in the United States.

Also, I noticed that you didn't give much attention to stories like this. Maybe you post a story where guns saved lives for every story of a "mass killer" or is the reason you're not doing that because that would undermine your real agenda.

Wrong thread.

Post: #9

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

Coincidence? More people playing more shooter video games? More divisiveness in the USA due to the political / culture climate?
Global warming ?

Post: #10

SunW I'm not sure if your post was for me, I'm saying we're posting more and more about them because of the media.

I never statistically stated they're increase, perhaps I should've said, more relevant.

I'm not trying to post about people who defend themselves against shooters.

What I said isn't misleading at all, I'm just combining. I don't have an agenda or am on any side.

Just solely combine all threads of shootings into one thread (Roosh is right, a major incident does deserve it's own thread)

Post: #11

(12-02-2015 07:41 PM)SunW Wrote:  We've had this discussion before: YOU ARE LYING. Violent crime in the United States is dropping, not increasing:





Also see Steven Pinker on the topic.

You are either on the side of truth, or you are evil. You have been utterly refuted and this isn't the first time I've called you on your bullshit - crime is not increasing in the United States.

Also, I noticed that you didn't give much attention to stories like this. Maybe you post a story where guns saved lives for every story of a "mass killer" or is the reason you're not doing that because that would undermine your real agenda.

Wrong thread.

What you talking about? No one here disputes, or even brought up, whether "violent crime" is down or up. The facts you provided say it's down, that's great. I'm glad about this. That's not what we're talking about here though.

We're talking specifically about mass shootings in the USA on this thead. These mass shootings like today, Sandy Hook, that nut in Carolina and all the others the OP stated in this thread and shootings like that are up and more prevalent here in the past 5 or a bit more, years in America.

This rise in mass shootings and why this is happening, is the discussion here.

Post: #12

(12-02-2015 07:55 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

Coincidence? More people playing more shooter video games? More divisiveness in the USA due to the political / culture climate?
Global warming ?

^ I was being a bit sarcastic with that one and even more so with the "global warming" suggestion.

But, at the same time: http://www.charismanews.com/culture/5265...ideo-games

Post: #13

(12-02-2015 09:10 PM)robreke Wrote:  But, at the same time: http://www.charismanews.com/culture/5265...ideo-games

You could also say all those kids rode a yellow school bus, so by association yellow school busses cause mass murders.

We should change them all to rainbow colored busses to encourage peace, tranquility and equality.

Post: #14

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

We have a cold civil war in the USA. About half the country can't stand each other, and have diametrically opposing views and values. Occasionally the cold civil war heats up.

It's going to get worse.

Post: #15

You have to give video games some blame. Columbine killers were Doom nuts and really wanted to blast kids in school like in the game.
I also think games are a plus. They have pushed many people towards the military. Recruiters always hear from kids signing up that they love Call of Duty. Hahaha.

Post: #16

Why obvious enrmy agents are allowed in this country and why they’re given all sorts of privileged treatment and access to our mass media and courts and congress and government agencies and Oval Office (well, the reason for that one is clear enough) — the USA is committing suicide.

Post: #17

Coincidence? Syed Farook - Where are all the Black Lives Matter protestors now?

Two suspects are dead Wednesday after a shooting erupted at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, that killed at least 14 people and injured at least 17 more. Two suspects, one male and one female, were killed in a shootout with police, Chief Jarrod Burguan of the San Bernardino Police Department said in a press conference. A third person was seen fleeing the scene and is being detained during investigation. The deceased male suspect has been identified by law enforcement sources as Syed Farook per the Los Angeles Times.

Media already doing backflips insisting this was a incidence of random workplace violence - they have not published any other names yet ...

Post: #18

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

Coincidence? More people playing more shooter video games? More divisiveness in the USA due to the political / culture climate?
Global warming ?

Non-inclusionaryism: Most of these groups (or people, individuals), be they Theocratic, suicidal, genocidal, terrorists, or the random "flip out" individual stems from fear. Fear their world won't allow them to be what they originally wanted, or fear their belief system is under attack and thus they can be everything they always wanted by means of massacre. Change the world to me or else, attitude.

Then there's incentivization:

Via Media:"Well my legacy will stand with notice, even if for a brief time, the world will know my bad self no matter what."

Via Entitlement: This is really just adult babies throwing a fucking fit with a gun. People are all to quick to label them "mentally distraught." No, these fuckers are of sound mind and make conscious, premeditated decision to do it anyways. Their attitude;"If I can't have what I want in life, then no one can.. so I'm gonna pick the ones I hate most and take them out with a gun or a bomb when I'm on my way out." <<< You have to admit, it's being pushed down everyone's throats 24/7 vie consumerism, commercials, news, TV, internet that you can "have it all," when you most certainly will likely never "have it all." Funny part is most don't consider what THEY even want in the first place, and buy into what they're programmed to want out of life. A person isn't a gold Rolex, an AK isn't a movie prop. They don't get that distinction, because they don't want to believe their conditioning isn't reality. When they're faced with the harsh reality all they've been fed is a lie.. well.. Blue pill extremism and red-pill denialism is probably somewhere in the root of this as well. These shooters are literally a glitch in the matrix.

Brotherhood in Hate: This is unfortunately the same core brotherhood as that of the defense of one's nation, just rooted in a cause devoid of humility. Think US military camaraderie - I'll die for you if you die for me, together we're an unstoppable, just, force - but rather completely destructive in the same way 90% of westernized women conduct themselves in relationships, minus the safety net all women are provided (thus why so many killers are men). This brotherhood also encapsulates most terrorism, which uses Allah as an excuse for Theocratic bonding.

I have more, but fled my mind.

Post: #19

This type of shit didn't happen as often before the media started profiting off of it.

Post: #20

(12-02-2015 10:24 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 06:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to what's up with the rise in mass shootings in the past 5 + years in America?

We have a cold civil war in the USA. About half the country can't stand each other, and have diametrically opposing views and values. Occasionally the cold civil war heats up.

It's going to get worse.

Welcome to Obama's divided America.

He has exacerbated and encouraged the trend of disunity that has existed for years.

I'm not saying he's responsible for these nut shooters. He has, however, set an underlying theme in the culture and country of division which,as you say, is setting the tone for this cold civil war.

Post: #21

robreke is there data on mass shootings increasing?

You said it as a positive statement, and I'd be curious where that comes from. (I'm not disagreeing. Certainly it seems that way. But I don't know.)

Edit: Found an FBI study (thru 2013) that shows it increasing.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/office-of-p...-2000-2013

Post: #22

(12-03-2015 10:57 AM)heavy Wrote:  robreke is there data on mass shootings increasing?

You said it as a positive statement, and I'd be curious where that comes from. (I'm not disagreeing. Certainly it seems that way. But I don't know.)

Edit: Found an FBI study (thru 2013) that shows it increasing.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/office-of-p...-2000-2013

I didn't say the uptick in shootings is a positive thing. Not quite sure how you gleaned that from my commentary.

As far as where it comes from, it's just evident from living in the USA and watching the news.

Simple observations here of an American in his 40s who has seen a lot of things transpire in this country since the 70s.

Yes - that FBI study is just confirmation of the obvious.

Post: #23

(12-03-2015 11:03 AM)robreke Wrote:  I didn't say the uptick in shootings is a positive thing. Not quite sure how you gleaned that from my commentary.

Positive as in fact-based.

Post: #24

(12-03-2015 11:04 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:03 AM)robreke Wrote:  I didn't say the uptick in shootings is a positive thing. Not quite sure how you gleaned that from my commentary.

Positive as in fact-based.

You are correct sir. Thanks for the clarification.

Post: #25

(12-03-2015 01:35 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  Then there's incentivization:

Via Media:"Well my legacy will stand with notice, even if for a brief time, the world will know my bad self no matter what."

Via Entitlement: This is really just adult babies throwing a fucking fit with a gun. People are all to quick to label them "mentally distraught." No, these fuckers are of sound mind and make conscious, premeditated decision to do it anyways.

Yep. Media and incentives is the primary reason.

When someone commits suicide, the act is often directed at a certain person or group of people to lash out at them. The suicide is intended to "punish" someone for a perceived slight, injustice, whatever. To make them feel shitty about it.

Now, imagine you're not well balanced mentally. You aren't successful in real life, and you blame others for that.

You've seen what happens if you stage a random shooting incident (the more unprecedented and disturbing, the better):

- You get your photo on the news media non-stop.
- The media painstakingly analyzes any grievance you said you had. People want to understand why it happened, so they try and discover what this guy's pain was.
- You get your own Wikipedia page.
- If you wrote a manifesto, people read it and discuss it.
- You go out in a blaze of glory with a big "fuck you" to the world.
- You get to cause pain to the people you hate or hold responsible for your failure.

That would all sound pretty good to someone losing at life with a sociopathic streak, don't you think? At least your life stood for something.