Post: #26

(12-02-2015 03:41 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  By reading your posts Dino and OP, there's still something that doesn't add up to me with your Gaming scenario. All the certified players on this Board can attest that being in the Game takes a lot of war like energy, and even the Best go through Ups and Down and feel that this Game ain't fun. And by reading your post, you just seem to be blissfully playing this Game with near perfect success and dealing with pleasant women all the way. And that's the reason why a lot of us think there's somethin else going on.

I think you nailed it. I am happy as can be. I am past the downs and I create my own ups in life. Call it blissful arrogance but somebody has to be on top. Like me or not I and the OP will keep doing our thing. Someone has to bang these milfs while enjoying life.

Post: #27

Quote:I do, but only up to the value they give you in the bedroom first...

Or is you were heading up somewhere, its no real cost to take them along, and it beats going alone.

So, how does the value exchange work?

Post: #28

How is this different from Greek Kamaki game?

Post: #29

I was wandering about a probability of a false rape accusation in Australia, say, in case one of the plates realizes the relationship goes nowhere and decides to fuck with you. Do you consider this and how do you safeguard against it?

Post: #30

(12-02-2015 03:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Dino, it's this incredible arrogance that shines through your posts that rubs me up the wrong way. Frankly, you don't seem very likeable at all.

Jealous? No idea what wealth or happiness is? Chasing someone else's dream? Etc etc.

It's just so obnoxious.

Could this be why he's successful with the game he's running? Are women attracted to nice guys or assholes? Could it be this "arrogance" is just self confidence, the thing every guy on here is trying to get more of?

Post: #31

(12-03-2015 02:25 AM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 03:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Dino, it's this incredible arrogance that shines through your posts that rubs me up the wrong way. Frankly, you don't seem very likeable at all.

Jealous? No idea what wealth or happiness is? Chasing someone else's dream? Etc etc.

It's just so obnoxious.

Could this be why he's successful with the game he's running? Are women attracted to nice guys or assholes? Could it be this "arrogance" is just self confidence, the thing every guy on here is trying to get more of?

Have you ever noticed that most players, despite being considered assholes by women, are most often than not charming, men's men?

I just don't think this is game at all really.

Post: #32

(12-02-2015 08:41 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Any man who says he "chooses" older women over younger women is either lying to others or lying to himself.

I can get a 20 yo hard body to bounce on it for a few hours pay when ever I want.

But I don't want.

Young chicks are dumb, inexperienced, drama prone, can't make conversation, are self obsessed and have no class. They are also a lot of work to get and maintain.

What's the payoff for all that shit? A slightly hotter body? Nicer skin? Crap sex.

A milf is almost as hot, and offers much more of the full package. She knows what to do in the sack, and having children has generally taught her that she is not the centre of the universe.

The are much better company, and much better in the sack.

Granted youngers are more attractive, but its the total package reward Vs the effort to acquire and maintain.

Post: #33

(12-03-2015 04:58 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  I can get a 20 yo hard body to bounce on it for a few hours pay when ever I want.

But I don't want.

Young chicks are dumb, inexperienced, drama prone, can't make conversation, are self obsessed and have no class. They are also a lot of work to get and maintain.

What's the payoff for all that shit? A slightly hotter body? Nicer skin? Crap sex.

A milf is almost as hot, and offers much more of the full package. She knows what to do in the sack, and having children has generally taught her that she is not the centre of the universe.

The are much better company, and much better in the sack.

Granted youngers are more attractive, but its the total package reward Vs the effort to acquire and maintain.

They are not better company, nor are they better in bed, nor are they nearly as attractive.

Post: #34

(12-03-2015 03:06 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 02:25 AM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 03:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Dino, it's this incredible arrogance that shines through your posts that rubs me up the wrong way. Frankly, you don't seem very likeable at all.

Jealous? No idea what wealth or happiness is? Chasing someone else's dream? Etc etc.

It's just so obnoxious.

Could this be why he's successful with the game he's running? Are women attracted to nice guys or assholes? Could it be this "arrogance" is just self confidence, the thing every guy on here is trying to get more of?

Have you ever noticed that most players, despite being considered assholes by women, are most often than not charming, men's men?

I just don't think this is game at all really.

A lot of the best players don't get along with other men in the slightest. Many are disagreeable bastards, and while women may love that, men not so much.

Post: #35

(12-03-2015 05:03 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 03:06 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 02:25 AM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 03:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Dino, it's this incredible arrogance that shines through your posts that rubs me up the wrong way. Frankly, you don't seem very likeable at all.

Jealous? No idea what wealth or happiness is? Chasing someone else's dream? Etc etc.

It's just so obnoxious.

Could this be why he's successful with the game he's running? Are women attracted to nice guys or assholes? Could it be this "arrogance" is just self confidence, the thing every guy on here is trying to get more of?

Have you ever noticed that most players, despite being considered assholes by women, are most often than not charming, men's men?

I just don't think this is game at all really.

A lot of the best players don't get along with other men in the slightest. Many are disagreeable bastards, and while women may love that, men not so much.

Well I guess our experiences differ then.

C'est la vie.

Post: #36

I am in a few "player" groups in china on wechat and a lot of the dudes pursue 30+ year old women exclusively. My theory on this is because only the older chicks are out there in the clubs actively hunting for laowai, so these guys then hamsterize and say "I prefer older chicks for XYZ" reasons. I don't push the issue with these dudes, though, because we all know that if I were put a hot 18 year old and a 30 year old in the room that they'd smash the 18 year old without even looking at the 30 year old. But hey, whatever dudes gotta tell themselves so they can sleep is fine with me. Just more 18 year olds for me. 

Post: #37

(12-03-2015 10:31 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I am in a few "player" groups in china on wechat and a lot of the dudes pursue 30+ year old women exclusively. My theory on this is because only the older chicks are out there in the clubs actively hunting for laowai, so these guys then hamsterize and say "I prefer older chicks for XYZ" reasons. I don't push the issue with these dudes, though, because we all know that if I were put a hot 18 year old and a 30 year old in the room that they'd smash the 18 year old without even looking at the 30 year old. But hey, whatever dudes gotta tell themselves so they can sleep is fine with me. Just more 18 year olds for me. 

I could nail all of the 18 year old Asians I want and for that matter western girls as well. What makes me happy though is having a fit cute woman a bit closer to my age for not just fucking but good conversation and companionship. Once you boys outgrow the fraternity phase you will appreciate the finer things in all areas of life. You guys who say I am in denial shop at Walmart, while I myself prefer Nordstrom. You can buy a pair of pants at either store but you cannot wear your Walmart pants to a 5 Star restaurant and not look like a young fool. This is what you fellows look like who are trying to squirm out of picking up the tab for an appetizer so you don't appear as a "chump" to others or to some ill conceived mindset about manliness gathered here from the so called "alpha players". Hopefully at some point you will have the balls to quit worrying about what people think and to take the actions that get you the desired result the fastest. This works for an 18 year old or a 38 year old.

There is an old saying, "don't cut off your nose to spite your face". If you cannot figure that out then have the manners to keep your mouth shut if you cannot say something nice or at least in a constructive manner.

Post: #38

It's okay to have a preference.

I'll take a 25 year old over an18 year old.
Having dealt with young chicks, I'm typically turned off by what they have to say.

Post: #39

(12-03-2015 11:40 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's okay to have a preference.

I'll take a 25 year old over an18 year old.
Having dealt with young chicks, I'm typically turned off by what they have to say.

18-27 is my range. Haven't fucked a girl over 27 in at least 2 years. This age range provides the best in terms of both looks and personality. Older than that, and not only do they start to look worse, but they also become more cuntish and bitter.

The girls I have connected with the most in the past have been in the 24-26 range. That is probably the best for medium term interactions, the girls are not so young that you are bored by them in the long run, but not so old that they lose their youthful sweetness.

Post: #40

(12-03-2015 04:58 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Young chicks are dumb, inexperienced, drama prone, can't make conversation, are self obsessed and have no class. They are also a lot of work to get and maintain.

I don't think age is that much of a factor for any of these other than experience. Many older chicks are also dumb, drama prone, can't make conversation, are self obsessed, and have no class. Girls achieve most of their intelligence and maturity in their early to mid twenties with very slow increases throughout the rest of their life. There is little difference in intelligence and maturity between the average 25 year old and 35 year old girl.

Hot girls are typically a lot of work or money to get and maintain regardless of their age. Unattractive girls don't take as much to get or maintain regardless of their age. The difference is that there are many more hot girls in their 20s than in their 30s and 40s.

With all due respect to everyone I agree that there is some rationalization going on in this thread. There are some valid points being made but I think guys are going a little too far when they say milfs in their 30s are almost as hot as girls in their early 20s who haven't gone through child birth.

Post: #41

(12-04-2015 01:56 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  Hot girls are typically a lot of work or money to get and maintain regardless of their age.

That is a misconception. In my experience hot girls are significantly easier to maintain because hypergamy works in your favour.

Post: #42

(12-03-2015 10:52 AM)Dino Wrote:  I could nail all of the 18 year old Asians I want and for that matter western girls as well. What makes me happy though is having a fit cute woman a bit closer to my age for not just fucking but good conversation and companionship. Once you boys outgrow the fraternity phase you will appreciate the finer things in all areas of life. You guys who say I am in denial shop at Walmart, while I myself prefer Nordstrom. You can buy a pair of pants at either store but you cannot wear your Walmart pants to a 5 Star restaurant and not look like a young fool. This is what you fellows look like who are trying to squirm out of picking up the tab for an appetizer so you don't appear as a "chump" to others or to some ill conceived mindset about manliness gathered here from the so called "alpha players". Hopefully at some point you will have the balls to quit worrying about what people think and to take the actions that get you the desired result the fastest. This works for an 18 year old or a 38 year old.

This is great stuff.

Last night I went out with a girl who is much younger than me, in her early 20s. I wore inexpensive jeans. They weren't Walmart quality jeans but more like Target quality. I took her to an ice cream shop but I don't think it was a 5 Star ice cream shop. Maybe 2.25 stars.

When that girl's clothes come off there is no doubt she is young and has never had kids.

The biggest reason I'm getting more girls like her and getting them more consistently is because I've been around a few forum guys who have much better game than me. I might have more experience in business or making money than some of them but it isn't a pissing contest to see who is better at this or that. We can all learn from each other. Many of the younger guys know a lot more about game than I do so I try to keep an open mind.

Post: #43

(12-03-2015 10:52 AM)Dino Wrote:  You guys who say I am in denial shop at Walmart, while I myself prefer Nordstrom. You can buy a pair of pants at either store but you cannot wear your Walmart pants to a 5 Star restaurant and not look like a young fool.

I was at first tempted to call this condescending but..

Nordstrom?

Post: #44

(12-04-2015 03:22 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 10:52 AM)Dino Wrote:  You guys who say I am in denial shop at Walmart, while I myself prefer Nordstrom. You can buy a pair of pants at either store but you cannot wear your Walmart pants to a 5 Star restaurant and not look like a young fool.

I was at first tempted to call this condescending but..

Nordstrom?

I'm laughing at myself on this one too! Come on guys the Walmart pants was funny.

Post: #45

No real argument so Dino posits that we shop at Walmart while he masturbates to nordstrom's.

It's like an age troll spliced with big baller troll. I like this new breed.

Nice try trying to compare your older girls to nordstrom's while likening younger chicks to Walmart.

Post: #46

(12-03-2015 10:52 AM)Dino Wrote:  I could nail all of the 18 year old Asians I want and for that matter western girls as well. What makes me happy though is having a fit cute woman a bit closer to my age for not just fucking but good conversation and companionship. Once you boys outgrow the fraternity phase you will appreciate the finer things in all areas of life. You guys who say I am in denial shop at Walmart, while I myself prefer Nordstrom. You can buy a pair of pants at either store but you cannot wear your Walmart pants to a 5 Star restaurant and not look like a young fool. This is what you fellows look like who are trying to squirm out of picking up the tab for an appetizer so you don't appear as a "chump" to others or to some ill conceived mindset about manliness gathered here from the so called "alpha players". Hopefully at some point you will have the balls to quit worrying about what people think and to take the actions that get you the desired result the fastest. This works for an 18 year old or a 38 year old.

There is an old saying, "don't cut off your nose to spite your face". If you cannot figure that out then have the manners to keep your mouth shut if you cannot say something nice or at least in a constructive manner.

This is the most obnoxious post I have ever read here. Congratulations!

Keep rationalizing and telling older, wiser, successful, many wealthy players that they: have 'no balls' and 'worry about what other people think' and 'don't spend money' and 'keep your mouth shut,' if you want everyone to know you are condescending douchebag.

Yeah, you can nail all the hot western college girls you want, but 30-something MILF bodies are just as good....Sick troll post.

Post: #47

Dino, if you're attracted to older women, more power to you. Hell, if you're attracted to overweight, alopecia afflicted, grandmothers...that's great. Attraction is not negotiable. You have about as much chance convincing a guy to be attracted to older women as convincing them that Caitlyn Jenner is sexy. Trying to insult/shame guys into being attracted to someone that biology itself says isn't attractive...good luck with that. If you really don't care what anyone thinks about you then why are you trying to convince anyone that your way is better.

I'm happy that you've found a group of women easy to game that you like being with. Shouldn't you be just as happy about the 18-27 year old women we hang out with?

My experience is that running provider game reduces the chance of hooking up. The women become born again virgins looking to get married. Maybe it's different outside the US or with much older women. It could also be that depending on how wealthy you are they change their attitude.

Post: #48

This thread got hijacked from Beta Provisioner Smokescreen game to Young Vs Old!!!


You can game young or old with the Provisioner game.

Sort of like a DIY SA style game.

Post: #49

Game recognised.

Just a thought though.

The thread is titled, "Beta Provisioner Smokescreen Game"

There is no smokescreen, it's just Beta Provider Game.

Post: #50

Not every man likes the same type of girl. It depends on where he lies in the dominance/submission spectrum.

A very dominant man will love an ultra-feminine submissive girl. A man who is less dominant won't know what do to do with her and there will be little compatibility. Hence it's possible that the OP is somewhere in the middle, and is compatible with somewhat dominant women.