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(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Too bad Asian girls in US and Canada are usually not that good looking.
I feel bad for Asian guys in Toronto, they are dating girls who are 2s,3s, or 4s. In Asia they'd be dating 7s, 8s or 9s.

Don't be stupid and hate on toronto. You'll regret it when you sign with a multinational that sends you off to the US where the probability is 90% that you'll end up in a shitty city. But most young people that have never lived in multiple cities dislike the city they grew up in so it's forgivable.

(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Thats why all my Asian pickup friends go for white girls. Asian girls in Toronto are not beautiful at all.

I've been to Toronto. If you like westernized asians, it's about as good as you get there. As a bonus, they don't have as much narcissism that seems part of the american culture.

Be careful that your asian "pickup" friends don't have issues and are the male equivalent of this girl. These kinds of people are flirting with the border of crazy.

I love it... race threads always bring out the best in people. Coincidentally I think the black race thread spiraled down approximately the same time as this one did. We even got the black race troll posting in this thread!!!
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(08-02-2011 11:58 PM)AJ Wrote:  
(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Too bad Asian girls in US and Canada are usually not that good looking.
I feel bad for Asian guys in Toronto, they are dating girls who are 2s,3s, or 4s. In Asia they'd be dating 7s, 8s or 9s.

Don't be stupid and hate on toronto. You'll regret it when you sign with a multinational that sends you off to the US where the probability is 90% that you'll end up in a shitty city. But most young people that have never lived in multiple cities dislike the city they grew up in so it's forgivable.

(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Thats why all my Asian pickup friends go for white girls. Asian girls in Toronto are not beautiful at all.

I've been to Toronto. If you like westernized asians, it's about as good as you get there. As a bonus, they don't have as much narcissism that seems part of the american culture.

I disagree. I found the Asian women in California a lot more sexier. Something about Toronto just freezes people in their default culture and they don't seem to (as a whole) assimilate any of the positives from the North American standard of living. I have a friend from HK who moved here as a child and still struggles with English for Pete's sake!! Would that happen in the U.S? I bet you no, the Americans make no bones about commenting on 'accents' and failure to enunciate words properly.
Which is a good thing on one hand.

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(08-03-2011 11:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  
(08-02-2011 11:58 PM)AJ Wrote:  
(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Too bad Asian girls in US and Canada are usually not that good looking.
I feel bad for Asian guys in Toronto, they are dating girls who are 2s,3s, or 4s. In Asia they'd be dating 7s, 8s or 9s.

Don't be stupid and hate on toronto. You'll regret it when you sign with a multinational that sends you off to the US where the probability is 90% that you'll end up in a shitty city. But most young people that have never lived in multiple cities dislike the city they grew up in so it's forgivable.

(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Thats why all my Asian pickup friends go for white girls. Asian girls in Toronto are not beautiful at all.

I've been to Toronto. If you like westernized asians, it's about as good as you get there. As a bonus, they don't have as much narcissism that seems part of the american culture.

I disagree. I found the Asian women in California a lot more sexier. Something about Toronto just freezes people in their default culture and they don't seem to (as a whole) assimilate any of the positives from the North American standard of living. I have a friend from HK who moved here as a child and still struggles with English for Pete's sake!! Would that happen in the U.S? I bet you no, the Americans make no bones about commenting on 'accents' and failure to enunciate words properly.
Which is a good thing on one hand.
Hell yea they are! I lived in Monterrey CA and they drove me nuts the whole time I lived there. The asian dudes seem to have pretty good game with other races also.
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Adventure21c, why do you think that Asians have the only sob story?

Which other race (besides whites) are deemed as global sex symbols?
How do you think other non whites established their global sex status (if they do have any)?

You whinge and whine about Asians but there are 1 billion on the planet and already people feel that Mandarin or Cantonese is about to be the number 1 language in the world at some point.
Through sheer numbers, Asians are just coming.

You speak lesser of athletes and you want to know about prominent Asian businessmen who are calling the shots, name me some non white businessmen who are calling the shots.
Are we talking about within North America or on a global standpoint?

I don't have any sympathy towards your plight. If you want to establish global sex status, watch the trendy Asians. Switch up your dress code. Start approaching women. Stop being such a scaredy cat. Either balls up or fallback.
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(08-03-2011 11:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  
(08-02-2011 11:58 PM)AJ Wrote:  
(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Too bad Asian girls in US and Canada are usually not that good looking.
I feel bad for Asian guys in Toronto, they are dating girls who are 2s,3s, or 4s. In Asia they'd be dating 7s, 8s or 9s.

Don't be stupid and hate on toronto. You'll regret it when you sign with a multinational that sends you off to the US where the probability is 90% that you'll end up in a shitty city. But most young people that have never lived in multiple cities dislike the city they grew up in so it's forgivable.

(08-02-2011 03:57 AM)torontokid Wrote:  Thats why all my Asian pickup friends go for white girls. Asian girls in Toronto are not beautiful at all.

I've been to Toronto. If you like westernized asians, it's about as good as you get there. As a bonus, they don't have as much narcissism that seems part of the american culture.

I disagree. I found the Asian women in California a lot more sexier. Something about Toronto just freezes people in their default culture and they don't seem to (as a whole) assimilate any of the positives from the North American standard of living. I have a friend from HK who moved here as a child and still struggles with English for Pete's sake!! Would that happen in the U.S? I bet you no, the Americans make no bones about commenting on 'accents' and failure to enunciate words properly.
Which is a good thing on one hand.

I found Asian girls in California to be much sexier, as well. I found them to be more softer spoken and feminine than in Toronto. I didn't find them any less sheltered though...clearer more attractive for whatever reason.
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Who cares who is a global sex symbol? I wouldn't even be able to tell you who was. This is about you! and you getting laid! It has nothing to do with race.

We have a great Forum here with members that overcome every obstacle. What more can you ask for?

One of the best looking white friends that I have couldn't get laid till the point where he was 30 and joined a church group to meet his now wife. HE HAD NO GAME!

Step it up and don't worry what your race is doing as a whole it does not matter
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RE: Roosh, found something on some asian guys
I'm in Thailand right now. My own eyes don't deceive me.
Besides look at the quality of the girl the average asian dude is dating in Toronto.

The ones that are hot have extremely high bitch shields especially in the daytime. Note I'm talking about hot, as in the type of girls found in Thailand and not the typical fairly decent nerdy types that white herbs fall in love with.
I don't have that much experience with nightlife but I'm sure its a bit easier. Not much though.
No wonder my friends prefer white girls. And considering how low the quality of white women is in Toronto thats not saying much about the Asian girls in Toronto.
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(08-03-2011 11:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  I disagree. I found the Asian women in California a lot more sexier. Something about Toronto just freezes people in their default culture and they don't seem to (as a whole) assimilate any of the positives from the North American standard of living. I have a friend from HK who moved here as a child and still struggles with English for Pete's sake!! Would that happen in the U.S? I bet you no, the Americans make no bones about commenting on 'accents' and failure to enunciate words properly.
Which is a good thing on one hand.

I've never been to Cali for longer than 2 wks so I can't give a comparison. But here we're just comparing two of the top 5 places I'd live in NAmerica. Splitting hairs. I think this is coming down to personal preference. I definitely know that my minority friends that have lived in rustbelt USA cities love it in TO.

That thing about SOME people not assimilating in Toronto is true. This is hard to describe but a lot of the immigrants don't feel a strong pull to assimilate. The good is that you have diversity that you'd be hard pressed to find in the US - both in physical appearance and personality. I usually don't target the FOBs.

*shrug* Maybe we just have different tastes in appearance? I prefer the non whoriental look - no heavy makeup etc...

The canadian personality is a little more chill which I prefer. I find the american asians tend to be a touch more uptight and more obsessed with status.




(08-03-2011 11:56 AM)torontokid Wrote:  No wonder my friends prefer white girls. And considering how low the quality of white women is in Toronto thats not saying much about the Asian girls in Toronto.

Again... Just to make things crystal crystal clear.

If I hear an asian guy say "I prefer white girls", this is a possible red flag that they haven't fully come to terms with their racial identity yet. It's complicated and I'm too lazy to detail why that is but... you figure it out.

The same phenomenon can be seen when asian girls say "I prefer white guys". I find these girls usually have grown up in an environment where their peers made them feel insecure about their racial identity - i.e in the middle of nowheresville USA.

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(08-03-2011 11:30 AM)Moma Wrote:  Adventure21c, why do you think that Asians have the only sob story?

Which other race (besides whites) are deemed as global sex symbols?
How do you think other non whites established their global sex status (if they do have any)?

Yea everyone forgets that interracial dating only became mainstream VERY recently ("guess who's coming to dinner" only came out ~40 y ago and caused a big stir).

The bulk of asians have only been in the US for 50 years, there is no asian-american identity yet, and asians themselves are very diverse in culture. Be patient... it's getting better.

Even race as a idea is grey... at what point are you considered black? 1/4? 1/8? Is the ratio different for asians? What does that make tiger woods who is 1/2 asian 1/4 black 1/8 white 1/8 native american?


But seriously. Big group hug. No need for this us vs. them mentality. there are bigger things to worry about. I love you all. Even you adventure21c.
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(08-04-2011 02:46 AM)AJ Wrote:  Again... Just to make things crystal crystal clear.

If I hear an asian guy say "I prefer white girls", this is a possible red flag that they haven't fully come to terms with their racial identity yet. It's complicated and I'm too lazy to detail why that is but... you figure it out.

The same phenomenon can be seen when asian girls say "I prefer white guys". I find these girls usually have grown up in an environment where their peers made them feel insecure about their racial identity - i.e in the middle of nowheresville USA.

These things make baby jesus cry

Funnily enough they are cool with their racial identity.
One of them has real alpha blood in him, Genghis Khan style super alpha.
Its just that they prefer white girls because they are better looking in Toronto.
I used to go to school with them, it was an asian school and full of ugly asian girls.
Can't blame racial insecurity for that. Ugly girls turn you off that race usually until you see a lot of pretty girls from that race.
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AJ,

It seems like a dual between you and I.

Keep 'em coming, brother.

I might be wrong, but I happen to think you're a far more relaxed person than I am. I'm not somebody who sits back and passively watch a problem or an issue as it gets better by the actions of others.

It is not that I'm trying to solve any problem on this forum, which obviously would be ridiculous, but exchanging some jabs at the known problems can be, well, entertaining.

We know all the factors involved with the Asian men, especially the issues with the so-called Asian-Americans, the people with Asian genes who grew up in the American culture, who feel estranged from the American culture as well as their native culture. We know most of them are angry; they won't make any sort of positive contributions that can help others. We can list all the factors on and on, we can analyze the Asian issues pages upon pages, but that won't help. We all know it anyway.

The two Asian-American men you have pointed out and linked to are exactly the part of the problem. The ones that aren't doing it right, enough, or are not doing anything at all. I know those types. I precisely know what kind of roles those men played in China and Korea throughout millenia. I have been vicious against those types, and chances are I'll never look on them kindly: I'm not a fan of those who drag themselves and others to filth. Those people made up the vast majority of Asia for thousands years and perhaps that's why Asia never took off, and perhaps never will. They think and act exactly the same way whether they are in Asia or elsewhere. Note that that's an objective assessment.

1. Those types, the Asian complainers, do one thing and stop there: they complain and curse their lot in life. And they do no more. They don't do anything to get themselves out of the predicament or situation that they don't like. They associate bad and negative vibe to their Asian faces. They are the living and walking speciemen of the bad and negative Asian stereotypes. They hate who they are, they hate their faces, and they want to exit to the white world while too well knowing they can't--this is why 'fit in better to the white world' can be a dangerous, misguided advice. If there can be a solution, they need to be able to accept themselves and start creating and attaching positive associations to themselves, especially to their face. My suspicion is that the majority of the Asians, native or western, are like that--complainers, and obviously that doesn't solve anything and compounds the problem as times goes on. In some sense, it's very human. How many people, regardless of culture and time and locale, really try hard to climb over the rut they're deeply in? Very few. The most simply get carried along with the decisions and actions of those who pioneer.

2. Then there are those western-Asians who proclaim fitting in better in the west will be a good solution. Well...it's a step ahead than the above, but in my opinion, this isn't good enough either. An ordinary solution will get you no more than ordinary results. Very few Asians get even this.

3. I'm simply pointing out a third option, the most difficult and challenging one of them all: Actively address and solve the problems. If you don't like the lot in your life, actively work to get what you like. Go beyond simply settling with what's given to you. If there's no positive identity or trait associated with your identity or face, then create them. How many Asian men are imaginative and audacious enough to work on tackling the problem at the source? I'd say virtually none. Do stop focusing on your own petty problems and do things greater than your own life: That is my view.

I'm not going to compromise and send the message to "settle for the less because you can't do better." (or worse: "you've given shit, just be and stay angry.")

I'm saying it can and should get better, and the only one who can do it is you: Be proactive and go beyond the obvious, don't just sit there waiting for others to do your job, instead take charge. Don't be hampered by what others think of you, nor even care about it. Go, do your own thing that makes great contributions to others. Be bigger than life itself. Serve others's needs before yours so that others would have the reason to serve you. Stand out. Don't cower and settle. Do something wonderful yourself. See and reach far beyond the mundane and get there. You can do it.

I know that the most Asian men won't get that; I know those few who get it will deny that they can do it themselves. But that doesn't mean I'd care what they think or what they can perceive or what they are capable of. I don't mind sending out my messages for those infinitesimally small number of exceptions who can hear and see.

If you want extraordinary successes in your life, you must do extraordinary things. The same goes for all areas of life, including seducing and bedding women.

Be ordinary or Fit in better is hardly the best advice of them all.

That is my voice.

AJ Wrote:The largest guys in the gym tend to be most calm - there is no doubt that they're the biggest. It's the the guys in the middle, those that are insecure in their status, they're the annoying ones. They grunt, flex, and make a big show so that everyone will notice.

This is a typical, traditional East-Asian bullcrap, a method to keep the populace down and control them. This line of reasoning was exactly a cause of the downfall of the traditional Asia. Don't even get me started on this. I refuse to have it.

Repeat after me: If it's traditional Asian thinking and acting, it's wrong.

For the record, I love those noisy, annoying, obnoxious ones who get the most attention and successes. Who gives a damn about the quiet, big guys? Nobody.

Believe me: God feeds the noisy and annoying ones the first and the most. The future and the world belongs to the obnoxiously misbehaved.

The world has had enough Confucian and Zen Buddhism crap. It's time for noise, it's time for bang, and I'm coming.

(08-03-2011 11:30 AM)Moma Wrote:  Adventure21c, why do you think that Asians have the only sob story?

Which other race (besides whites) are deemed as global sex symbols?
How do you think other non whites established their global sex status (if they do have any)?

You whinge and whine about Asians but there are 1 billion on the planet and already people feel that Mandarin or Cantonese is about to be the number 1 language in the world at some point.
Through sheer numbers, Asians are just coming.

You speak lesser of athletes and you want to know about prominent Asian businessmen who are calling the shots, name me some non white businessmen who are calling the shots.
Are we talking about within North America or on a global standpoint?

I don't have any sympathy towards your plight. If you want to establish global sex status, watch the trendy Asians. Switch up your dress code. Start approaching women. Stop being such a scaredy cat. Either balls up or fallback.
Y'all got no problems.

Moma,

I think you mean well, and I appreciate your feedbacks, but I must point out there are some things you didn't grasp.

To the best of my knowledge, you aren't Asian, and there are some Asian issues that require a lot of exposure to those uninitiated. And no, these aren't some made-up issues that's in people's head: they are really there.

But, to address your points:

I was pointing out the fact that only the Asian men do not have the image of sexual desirability in people's mind. The white guys have it, the black guys have it, and the latino guys have it. Why not the Asian guys? Because they didn't make one themselves. They got no one but themselves to blame.

You misunderstood me if you think I'm whining. I was elaborating the sources of the problems. Defining the problem precisely always is the first step in addressing and solving the problems--know what you're dealing with and why, even if it's painful. Quantity vs. Quality is an interesting question, and in any case, knowing the Asians, I'm not really holding my breath on Asia (meaning China, the last bastion of the "Asian hope.") I pointed the lack of the Asian male sex symbol as the past failure or lack of proper work--that simple, but I do know that'll go muted to many if not most Asian men why and how that's an issue.

Nobody needs any sympathy from anyone. I'm saying the same thing: Man up and go the extra miles to solve your problems if you have any. I can't stand those who simply sit there and complain and do more damage to the existing problem, or offer a solution that won't make much difference at all. I'm not a fan of ordinary solutions. "Be patient, it's getting better": yeah, right, why can I or anyone take the action now and tackle the problem himself now? Nobody but you is solely responsible for your own well-being; there are jobs you need to do for yourself. I'm not very patient when someone says I must wait in getting what I want or the best I can do is no more than average.

There are challenges. Now, triumph over them. Go beyond the ordinary. Act now rather than later. That is my point.


"Don't be encumbered by history. Go off and do something wonderful." – Robert N. Noyce. The co-founder of Intel.

Focus. Nothing else matters--nothing.
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you all must live under a rock...cause here in teh west coast(cali, oregon, washington etc and everywhere in canada last i visited couple of years ago), if you saw an interracial couple, its usually with an east asian guy. I've seen east asian guys with hot white/latina/black/indian girls in all these areas, and throughout usa, although more common in the west coast.

If the troll that started this thread happens to be an asian dude acting like a fag and wanting cheap thrills by posting this pathetic question, then he deserves nothing but to be flamed.

I'm not east asian, but I have to admit, I'm tired of seeing east asian guys saying they can't get girls and blah blah...cause asian guy-non asian girl couples are all the rage these days. I mean if you put things into perspective, theres wayyy more east asian in the west coast then their is any other group of people, and most east asian are in upper middle class financially, so its given by those facts they're gonna get more girls...By shear numbers alone they're bound to get more girls...

I went to vegas for a bachelors party just a couple of weeks ago, and the most interracial couples ive seen were with an asian guy, I also noticed the second most common race group in vegas was asian...

Lets just wake up and admit the facts, theres more asian, therefore theres going to be more of them in interracial dating.

Having said that, I will say this, of all the east asian guys, the phillipino guys have the most game. They can pull chicks pretty easily.

Oh and most guys i know, including east asian, agree asian girls aren't at the top of the dating list.
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