Post: #226

(08-20-2016 05:03 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:54 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  You didn't mention his biggest crime, and that which makes him the worst president in US history by itself.

The addition of $10 trillion of national debt and the first president to never once experience 3% annual GDP growth.

I am not sure if there is a video or a website to explain what this means and how it impacts the average middle class man. But this alone is beyond criminal and beyond pale. Essentially most everyone will now have to work longer hours, for more years of their life, to have far less than the generation older than them, but that is ONLY if we are lucky and our debt isn't called. If it is called, it will be a tribal civil war over the few remaining supplies.

There's just so many problems with Obama's presidency that it's hard to list everything. It would be essay length.

He also nominated Janet Yellen too who is woefully underqualified and outrageously inept. Under Obama's watch he's allowed the fed even more expansive authority to run experiments with the equities markets and the economy. Not only has this ballooned debt but all this fed money printing has created very uncertain future economic conditions with a massive equities bubble.

There's another potential timebomb too. Obama's justice appointments are complete shit. Sotomayor in particular has driven justice rulings farther to the left.

Don't forget that Obama also appointed that one female head of the secret service (Julia Pierson) who was also a complete fuck up.

Obama has a long track record of appointing people who are woefully inexperienced but fulfill the P.C. affirmative action narrative of more women in all positions. He's put some real clowns in ambassador positions too like the current Ambassador to the philippines. It makes the U.S. look inept and actually has a negative effect on foreign policy.

You are right, and you are very informed of what is going on.

I guess if you took away Obama's destruction of the economy and just focused on these horrible appointments and awful foreign policy decisions, he would still be one of the top 10 worst presidents in our country's history. But most of that can be recovered from if we put the right people in office. If Trump were to win, many of the appointees could be purged and the foreign policy disasters reversed.

But the debt, and how close we are to maxing it out, and the number of people dependent on the govt. borrowing, I don't know if the country can ever recover from it. It is really criminal how he handled the economy and the reason I would say he is by far the worst president of all time. Numbers don't lie, the economy is shambles and that is the good news. The bad news will hit in a few years.

Post: #227

(08-20-2016 05:27 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  But the debt, and how close we are to maxing it out, and the number of people dependent on the govt. borrowing, I don't know if the country can ever recover from it. It is really criminal how he handled the economy and the reason I would say he is by far the worst president of all time. Numbers don't lie, the economy is shambles and that is the good news. The bad news will hit in a few years.

There's only one positive angle to all this.. Europe in particular is much worse off than the U.S. when it comes to debt problems. Many of Europe's leading banks such as Deutschebank are teetering on total collapse.

The various central banks have been colluding to bury these European debt issues. The E.U. has mountains of toxic debt though and that is not going away anytime soon. In some ways Merkel's policies have accelerated the potential downfall of the E.U.

There's some irony there that even with Obama's horrible presidency that Europe has an even worse leader fucking things up for them.

In the face of a real global recession the U.S. will most likely still come out way ahead because most of the developed nations are neck deep in shit. A recession would rip Europe apart but it would create a condition for the U.S. to benefit (again) assuming there is a proper leader in charge of the nation when that happens.

Post: #228

(08-20-2016 06:03 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 05:27 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  But the debt, and how close we are to maxing it out, and the number of people dependent on the govt. borrowing, I don't know if the country can ever recover from it. It is really criminal how he handled the economy and the reason I would say he is by far the worst president of all time. Numbers don't lie, the economy is shambles and that is the good news. The bad news will hit in a few years.

There's only one positive angle to all this.. Europe in particular is much worse off than the U.S. when it comes to debt problems. Many of Europe's leading banks such as Deutschebank are teetering on total collapse.

The various central banks have been colluding to bury these European debt issues. The E.U. has mountains of toxic debt though and that is not going away anytime soon. In some ways Merkel's policies have accelerated the potential downfall of the E.U.

There's some irony there that even with Obama's horrible presidency that Europe has an even worse leader fucking things up for them.

In the face of a real global recession the U.S. will most likely still come out way ahead because most of the developed nations are neck deep in shit. A recession would rip Europe apart but it would create a condition for the U.S. to benefit (again) assuming there is a proper leader in charge of the nation when that happens.

You are right, Europe is in even worse shape.

The problem is that the invading hoards are only helped by this. Liberals in general, not just Obama, though he is a key figure, have destroyed the nice civilized western world. He will go down in history as one of the great buffoons of all time, whomever it is that writes the history will have this point of view.

Post: #229

(08-18-2016 09:27 AM)HOD Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:22 PM)bigrich Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:01 PM)Pride male Wrote:  So if he is so bad, why did Americans vote for him twice?

I voted for him twice. I just did not know any better like most people who did.

I'll be honest I voted for him twice. I drank the liberal Kool-Aid, I thought he would bring change and end racism and improve race relation.

I thought he was the best the black community could offer, in addition, I like many others were disenchanted with Bush Jr. Furthermore, I never did my due diligence and totally assume he got into Harvard on his merits. But he was actually a consequence and product of a bullshit affirmative action program.

I always wonder why he was so unproductive and I consider him the most disappointing president ever. He like many any other politician, he was there to get paid and look kool. Nothern more.

Ditto. As a registered Independent voter, I voted for Obama as well despite my strong traditional and middle class values. "Change" and "transparency" were the common themes throughout his campaign so I drank the kool aid by keeping an open mind.

Big mistake. Should have trusted my own instincts. I regretted it, but I considered it as part of life's lessons.

One thing that has gotten so bad is America's education system. So many colleges and universities have swung over to the left by embracing liberalism, political correctness, diversity, etc. As for K-12 Education, Common Core is unpopular according to my nephew who didn't have a positive thing to say about it.

Post: #230

(08-20-2016 10:01 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 09:27 AM)HOD Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:22 PM)bigrich Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:01 PM)Pride male Wrote:  So if he is so bad, why did Americans vote for him twice?

I voted for him twice. I just did not know any better like most people who did.

I'll be honest I voted for him twice. I drank the liberal Kool-Aid, I thought he would bring change and end racism and improve race relation.

I thought he was the best the black community could offer, in addition, I like many others were disenchanted with Bush Jr. Furthermore, I never did my due diligence and totally assume he got into Harvard on his merits. But he was actually a consequence and product of a bullshit affirmative action program.

I always wonder why he was so unproductive and I consider him the most disappointing president ever. He like many any other politician, he was there to get paid and look kool. Nothern more.

Ditto. As a registered Independent voter, I voted for Obama as well despite my strong traditional and middle class values. "Change" and "transparency" were the common themes throughout his campaign so I drank the kool aid by keeping an open mind.

Big mistake. Should have trusted my own instincts. I regretted it, but I considered it as part of life's lessons.

One thing that has gotten so bad is America's education system. So many colleges and universities have swung over to the left by embracing liberalism, political correctness, diversity, etc. As for K-12 Education, Common Core is unpopular according to my nephew who didn't have a positive thing to say about it.

Exactly, Obama has promised he would lower tuition and all of this other shit but it never happened.He just made it easier for these universities to ruin men's life's with false rape accusations.

Post: #231

(08-20-2016 10:01 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 09:27 AM)HOD Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:22 PM)bigrich Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:01 PM)Pride male Wrote:  So if he is so bad, why did Americans vote for him twice?

I voted for him twice. I just did not know any better like most people who did.

I'll be honest I voted for him twice. I drank the liberal Kool-Aid, I thought he would bring change and end racism and improve race relation.

I thought he was the best the black community could offer, in addition, I like many others were disenchanted with Bush Jr. Furthermore, I never did my due diligence and totally assume he got into Harvard on his merits. But he was actually a consequence and product of a bullshit affirmative action program.

I always wonder why he was so unproductive and I consider him the most disappointing president ever. He like many any other politician, he was there to get paid and look kool. Nothern more.

Ditto. As a registered Independent voter, I voted for Obama as well despite my strong traditional and middle class values. "Change" and "transparency" were the common themes throughout his campaign so I drank the kool aid by keeping an open mind.

Big mistake. Should have trusted my own instincts. I regretted it, but I considered it as part of life's lessons.

One thing that has gotten so bad is America's education system. So many colleges and universities have swung over to the left by embracing liberalism, political correctness, diversity, etc. As for K-12 Education, Common Core is unpopular according to my nephew who didn't have a positive thing to say about it.

I need to find an alt-right homeschooling network for my theoretical children. Ramzpaul academy.

Post: #232

Either that, or consider the internet. So many classics from literature, arts, history, even politics and science are out there for free.

As soon as there's no more money for schools and colleges, there won't be an alternate option left. For more than 90% of the people.

Post: #233

Back to Obama: The only thing he hasn't screwed up yet is the stock market. If there is no crash until election day, feel free to call him the luckiest nagger in the history of the world.

Post: #234

(08-26-2016 05:24 PM)Max Henrich Wrote:  Back to Obama: The only thing he hasn't screwed up yet is the stock market. If there is no crash until election day, feel free to call him the luckiest nagger in the history of the world.

Keep it easy on the slurs or else people will be calling for your ban, but your point stands. Just remember that it's really easy to grease the stocks into perpetual gains when you're printing a fresh trillion dollars every 2 years.

Post: #235

History will be very harsh on Obama if Trump gets in and can right the ship. If Hillary gets in she will be so fucking awful we might not even be able to remember Obama when she runs us off into the ditch. Hillary wants to keep Lynch on board. We will be so fucked Mexicans will build a wall to keep Americans out.

Post: #236

From his Vice President:

Post: #237

I believe I've said this before in this thread, but hear it is again....

All social and economic issues with the president asked, DONT FUCK UP TRAFFIC!!!

Barack Obama is coming to Honolulu today. Starting at around 4 pm, the eastbound lanes of the H1 Freeway will be closed until about 6. The westbound lanes will be short by oneclane in the inside. http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-n...ama-visit/

His plane lands at a major air force installation, which has lots of helicopter pads. Then he goes to UH Manoa, which has helicopter pads, to give a speech.

Then he goes up the pali to kailua to stay in a fancy house right next to Kaneohe Marine Corps Base,cwhich has lots of helicopter pads. Of course, Pali Hwy will be closed.

This rat bastard has to do this shit right at rush hour? Fuck that. He's got massive resources available that will make it easier on everybody and they gotta drive his ass around and piss everybody off.

Thank Allah this will be the last Christmas he fucks up out here with this bullshit.

I don't care if granny's piss in the girls room or women take over or if the take my guns and give them to mexico just stop with the traffic.

Aloha!

Post: #238

This thread should have ended one reply in with "Yes, yes he is. Probably worse."

Post: #239

Barack Obama went to Midway Island yesterday.

His inspirational quote is on the front page of the paper and it says something like:

"I want to preserve this place so in the future people can see what it looks like when no body's touched the land" or something similar.

I think this guy is delusional. Its Midway Island. Its been blown to shit. Its covered with trash. Anybody's day thats been there knows that. Its just a weird thing to say.

Aloha!

Post: #240

(09-02-2016 08:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  Barack Obama went to Midway Island yesterday.

His inspirational quote is on the front page of the paper and it says something like:

"I want to preserve this place so in the future people can see what it looks like when no body's touched the land" or something similar.

I think this guy is delusional. Its Midway Island. Its been blown to shit. Its covered with trash. Anybody's day thats been there knows that. Its just a weird thing to say.

Aloha!

Maybe he wants to reserve, for military purpose or NSA new office.

Post: #241

(09-02-2016 08:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  Barack Obama went to Midway Island yesterday.

His inspirational quote is on the front page of the paper and it says something like:

"I want to preserve this place so in the future people can see what it looks like when no body's touched the land" or something similar.

I think this guy is delusional. Its Midway Island. Its been blown to shit. Its covered with trash. Anybody's day thats been there knows that. Its just a weird thing to say.

Aloha!

Obama is by far the best at pandering. No matter how shit a community is, he will say it's doing great.

Post: #242

(09-03-2016 09:56 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 08:31 PM)Kona Wrote:  Barack Obama went to Midway Island yesterday.

His inspirational quote is on the front page of the paper and it says something like:

"I want to preserve this place so in the future people can see what it looks like when no body's touched the land" or something similar.

I think this guy is delusional. Its Midway Island. Its been blown to shit. Its covered with trash. Anybody's day thats been there knows that. Its just a weird thing to say.

Aloha!

Obama is by far the best at pandering. No matter how shit a community is, he will say it's doing great.

I love it when he fakes a southern black accent.

Post: #243

Is this for real?

Holy shit!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/oba...story.html

WaPo Wrote:HANGZHOU, China — The problems began as soon as President Obama landed in China.

There were no stairs waiting for him to disembark from his usual door at the top of Air Force One.

On the tarmac, as Obama’s staff scrambled to get lower-level stairs in place for him to disembark, White House press photographers traveling with him tried to get in their usual position to mark his arrival in a foreign country, only to find a member of the Chinese welcoming delegation screaming at them.

He told the White House press corps they needed to leave.

A White House official tried to intervene, saying this is our president and our plane and the media isn’t moving.

The man yelled in response, “This is our country!”

The man then yelled more and entered into a testy exchange with Obama’s national security adviser, Susan E. Rice, and her deputy, Ben Rhodes, while trying to block them from moving toward the front of the plane.

On what is probably his last visit to China, there were flare-ups and simmering tensions during Obama’s meetings with Chinese officials — a fitting reflection of how the relationship between these two world powers has become frayed and fraught with frustration. Over the past seven years, that turbulence with China has colored and come to define Obama’s foreign policy at-large in Asia.

On Saturday, several White House protocol officers and other staff arriving at a diplomatic compound ahead of Obama’s meetings were stopped from entering and had heated arguments with Chinese officials in order to get in.

“The president is arriving here in an hour,” one White House staffer was overheard saying in exasperation.

A fistfight nearly broke out between a Chinese official trying to help the U.S. diplomats and a Chinese security official trying to keep them out. “Calm down please. Calm down,” another White House official pleaded.

Twenty minutes before the arrival of Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping, the two sides were still arguing in the room where the two leaders would soon be meeting to talk about cooperation. The Chinese insisted there was not enough space for the 12 American journalists traveling with Obama. U.S. officials, pointing to a spacious area sectioned off for the media, insisted there was.

High hopes turn to pivot
When Obama became president in 2009, he began with high hopes of improving U.S.-China relations. He tried reaching out to Chinese leaders with offers of increased engagement and decided not to meet with the Dalai Lama to avoid angering Beijing, to the disappointment of human rights advocates. Obama became the first U.S. president to visit China during his first year in office. But his administration was taken aback by how completely the Chinese controlled all aspects that visit.

“He wasn’t allowed to say much at all,” said Orville Schell, a longtime China scholar who was in China during the visit. “The Chinese kept him from meeting certain people, from taking questions or even radio broadcasts. He didn’t know quite how to respond. He didn’t want to be impolite. It took the U.S. a while to understand that this was the direction China and the relationship was headed.”

Some have blamed Obama for adopting such an overly optimistic and open stance during those early years. For all his outreach, current and former top U.S. diplomats say, Obama has gotten little in return, except the feeling of being burned by Beijing.

But that result could be equally attributed to the simple fact that China itself was undergoing a seismic shift during those early years of Obama’s presidency.

When the global recession plunged the world into financial crisis in the late 2000s, China escaped unscathed. Its leaders looked around and realized for the first time just how much power China had attained in becoming the world’s second largest economy. And shortly after, they began eagerly throwing that weight around.

No longer were they willing to make concessions or bide their time, from big things, such as territorial claims, down to the nitty-gritty of negotiations over who sits where and says what in diplomatic exchanges.

Obama’s response to this newfound Chinese assertiveness was largely a response to reality. “In a textbook, it would be great to have a strategic vision for how you see things being eight years now,” said Jeffrey A. Bader, Obama’s top Asia adviser during those early years. “But in this case, I think the word ‘reaction’ is right. You had a China that was changing in capacity and leadership.”

If the carrot of engagement didn’t work, the Obama administration decided, they would try the stick. And they gave this tougher policy a name: the “Pivot to Asia.”

The pivot policy boiled down to the idea of turning the resources and attention of the United States away from perpetual problem areas in the short term, such as the Middle East, to Asia — an area that would have clear long-term strategic importance in coming years.

Those overseeing the pivot strategy, senior U.S. officials said at the time, studied other examples in history, where one power was rising while others were declining: Germany’s rise in Europe after World War I; Athens and Sparta; the rise of the United States, itself, in the past century.

The pivot strategy was developed out of a belief that China would respond best to a position of strength. To find that leverage, the United States planned to forge stronger ties with its traditional allies in Asia and pick up new allies among neighbors alienated by China’s new aggression — including Vietnam, Burma and India.

Using that multilateral approach, the thinking went, the United States could offset China’s rising military power and assertiveness.

Doubts in Asia and among allies
The main problem with the Asia pivot was one of perception and substance.

European and Middle East leaders expressed concern with the idea of U.S. attention and priorities suddenly shifting from their regions to another. Chinese leaders saw the pivot as a U.S. conspiracy to interfere with China’s goals and to slow its rise.

Meanwhile, the very Asian allies the pivot was meant to reassure had their doubts, as well. Many wondered how much of the U.S. pivot was empty rhetoric and how much of it would be backed by economic and military substance.

In recent months, those doubts have resurfaced because the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal Obama cobbled together as a way to reach out to Asian allies, may die for lack of support among Congress and presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, in the years since the pivot strategy began, the U.S.-China relationship has soured to its current fraught state.

Both countries today are trying to avoid open hostility but are increasingly wary, hedging and frustrated with each other. Other countries in the region continue to fear China’s rise but at the same time are not fully convinced that the United States will be a sufficient counterweight.

The U.S.-China relationship may be the biggest problem Obama’s successor will face in Asia. How he or she deals with it — the exact proportion of carrots and sticks chosen and the Chinese response — will probably define the region in the decade to come.

If this visit by Obama is any indication, the situation is not likely to get better anytime soon.

On Saturday, even as the two presidents finished their talk and prepared for a final nighttime stroll toward Obama’s motorcade. Chinese officials suddenly cut the number of U.S. journalists who could cover them from six to three, and finally to one.

“That is our arrangement,” a Chinese official flatly told a White House staffer, looking away.

“But your arrangement keeps changing,” the White House staffer responded.

In the end, after lengthy and infuriating negotiations, they settled on having just two journalists witness the leaders’ walk.

Neither side was happy with the result.

Post: #244

Post: #245

Appropriate:

Sputnik Wrote:What an Honor! Newly Discovered Parasite Named After Barack Obama

Outgoing US President Barack Obama will not only leave his mark on history as a Nobel Peace Prize-winning two-term leader, but also as a man who provided the name for a parasitic flatworm linked to some 200,000 deaths annually.

The parasite, called Baracktrema obamai, was discovered in Malaysia, according to an August report in the Journal of Parasitology. Appearing to be a new species of flatworm, it is the first discovery of its kind in decades.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/art_living/20160...obama.html

Post: #246

There are no bad presidents and there are no good presidents. Rather, there are simply presidents that serve some over others.

For example, let's look at the Head Start program--a program designed to give disadvantaged youths a "head start". They were proposed and implemented during the Clinton and Bush years but they were terminated during the Obama years because virtually all of them were found to be useless and expensive. The methods they used to ascertain termination was double blind testing. Obama terminating those programs earns my respect.

If you are a taxpayer then termination of these programs was a good thing, but if you drew employment from Head Start then I'm sure you wouldn't have been happy.

I find it ironic that Obama was elected on the basis of minorities yet he oversaw the greatest transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class to the upper class when the banks' bets were covered in 2008. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall act allowed banks to make bets with the confidence that bad bets would be covered by the government, and indeed banks would make loans to houseowners (pocketing the transaction fees) and then immedietly sell the loan to the captive government branch of Fannie and Freddie. Ludicrous.

I did read recently that the US is taking in 85,000 Syrian refugees. Taking the German lesson that shows Syrians have an employment rate of under 5%, that would mean...a lot of money.

In most ways I would prefer Donald Trump to be a Vladimir Putin...an out-and-out nationalist who always puts Americans first. A president's job is actually really simple, in my opinion. All he has to do is ask himself, "will this benefit the most number of my people?" If he isn't doing this then he really isn't working for you; he's working for someone else not you.

Therefore a nationalist would simply say that we do not owe Arabs anything, and refuse to take in those refugees regardless of noble intent. This is not the stance of Obama.

Post: #247

Quote:I did read recently that the US is taking in 85,000 Syrian refugees. Taking the German lesson that shows Syrians have an employment rate of under 5%, that would mean...a lot of money.

You should stop reading your propaganda outlets, I'm afraid you don't know much.

Post: #248

http://www.breitbart.com/national-securi...acationed/

Quote:A group of Navy SEALS were forced to return from a hostage rescue mission in Afghanistan after President Barack Obama failed to approve their operation while he was on vacation on Martha’s Vineyard.


According to sources speaking to Ami Newswire, the special operations force traveled swiftly to recover two hostages, but were ordered to stand down because Obama did not have time to approve the mission.

Obama approved the mission a day later, but when the special forces team returned, the hostages had been moved just four hours earlier, according to the report.

The two civilian hostages are English teachers: United States citizen Kevin King and Australian citizen Timothy Weeks.


Details of the aborted mission were first reported by Fox News followed up by the Washington Post. Ami Newswire also interviewed sources with additional details about the mission.

Administration officials have offered additional details citing various layers of bureaucracy, but the mission still failed.

The missions took place Aug. 10 and 11, in Afghanistan, according to Ami Newswire, both days that Obama spent a large part of the day golfing in Martha’s Vineyard.

On August 10, Obama golfed from 10:30 a.m. – 3:19 p.m. at Vineyard Golf Club and on August 11, Obama golfed from 12:57 p.m. – 5:39 p.m at Mink Meadows Golf Course according to White House pool reports.

Holy fuck. This is Benghazi levels of negligence all over again. If everything reported here is true then he's a complete piece of shit. If I were the relatives of these two hostages i'd be calling for blood right about now.

Post: #249

Interesting thoughts...curious to know who people think were the best presidents and for which segment of the population benefited the most from them being in office?

Post: #250

(09-09-2016 12:31 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:I did read recently that the US is taking in 85,000 Syrian refugees. Taking the German lesson that shows Syrians have an employment rate of under 5%, that would mean...a lot of money.

You should stop reading your propaganda outlets, I'm afraid you don't know much.

No, he's right only he phrased it clumsily. Check out his words again:

Quote:Syrians have an employment rate of under 5%

i.e. an unemployment rate of 95%