Post: #26

And with Obamacare, I want to remind people that it is less liberal than what Nixon was trying to propose.
When the cost per capita for health care is the highest in the world and where not all people are covered, unlike the rest of the 1st world...then propose a different plan.

Post: #27

(11-19-2015 11:52 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  And with Obamacare, I want to remind people that it is less liberal than what Nixon was trying to propose.
When the cost per capita for health care is the highest in the world and where not all people are covered, unlike the rest of the 1st world...then propose a different plan.

Jingoism requires that members perceived as opposition be painted as total failures. It's why I argue for discussion of specific issues, and not using vague stuff like "SJW and conservative".

We can't reach agreements unless we discuss things that are objectively measurable , as in measurable in numbers. Like # of immigrants allowed in per year, or whether or not male students can be judged in sex offense cases by extra-judicial panels of people employed by a university.

No one can agree on what "SJWs" are, let alone whether they will be the ruin of the country.

I personally think Obama is currently pretty much in despair because he is just realizing how dumb the masses are and how things will never change. Having Daesh making trouble is like a cancer diagnosis for a politician, to kill the disease you'd have to kill a lot of other things too.

He didn't become president thinking Daesh assholes would continue to amplify their aggression.

Post: #28

The Job of a politician is to do two things. The first job is to get elected. The second job is to get re-elected. The only way to measure the quality of a president is to wait a lot of years after the president has served his terms. Politics for most people is not a rational beast. It is very emotional.

Here is an interesting quote from John F. Kennedy:

Quote:"No one has a right to grade a President—even poor James Buchanan—who has not sat in his chair, examined the mail and information that came across his desk, and learned why he made his decisions."

This why I always say it is best to skip politics in favor of studying other subjects. My father likes to talk about some hypothetical bullshit "socio-economic theories" as opposed to the actual science of economics. It isn't that economics is wrong in his mind, its that you need to think about as "socioeconomics" because it doesn't account for the "social" side of of problems. What people need to realize all actions and decisions have trade offs. No amount of "social" analysis is going to change that. Then again all "socio-economics" really means to my father is "lets have more public welfare."

Post: #29

For sure, don't employ radicals & those responsible for the GFC to then run America...

Post: #30

To reiterate:

1. Obamacare. Let's take the most disfunctional health care system in the western world and make it worse. Check.
2. Attack the 2nd Amendment. Let's go after the most pivotal basis for American freedom and exceptionalism to turn the entire country into the south side of Chicago. Check.
3. Let's add racism to every conversation. "He could be my son." So could everyone else, since you're mixed. Checked every time he could.
4. Being indecisive and bitchy. "We need to go to Syria. I won't put boots on ground. I ended the Iraq War. Let's go back. I never said that. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."
5. The Iran deal. I actually have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it was a really shitty deal. On the other, it gives Israel something to focus on other than fucking up the US's foreign and domestic affairs. So, that's a draw.

Post: #31

(11-19-2015 09:56 PM)Libertas Wrote:  But aside from that, Obama is the worst president in my lifetime.

Then I'd wager you were born in 2008.

Post: #32

Yes. Im not able to go much it here since I'm on a phone, but Reasearch the root causes of all the PC hysterias going on. You'll be amazed at how often they exist because Obama either implemented policies that incentive it or outright funded the causes.

Post: #33

Obviously this is a big talking point, but here is the deal, unless we ever get someone in office who is willing to tell Israel to fight their own wars, we will always have a traitorous president. Referring to Obama as "not that bad" is cuckoldry talk.

Even if Trump gets in, or whoever the fuck, we will still fight Israels wars and Americans will die for the wrong cause. Accepting that, my biggest hope with Trump is that he, unlike Obama, will not try to chip away at our nations self defense and gun laws until we all look like Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, etc.

Obama has, more then any President, encouraged the decimation of our countries values and spirit. Hes been the perfect puppet for his masters. Trump will also be a shitbag if he carries on the trend of Islamic apologizing, cry baby coddling, queer idolizing bullshit, but I have hope.

Post: #34

(11-19-2015 11:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 10:46 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  Obamacare is pretty much a failure. He's done significant damage to race relations. He's trying to bring in tens of thousands of Syrians into the country. Played a major role in destabilizing Syria to begin with. Passed TPP. Has done less to combat ISIS than Russia (and he's obviously gone easy on them on due to his own agenda). Is trying to destroy our 2nd amendment rights. Hasn't really improved the economy. Terrible Iran deal that didn't even get us back our US citizens being held captive. Trading the Taliban five of their people for one of ours, who was a traitor to begin with.

Aside from killing Bin Laden, he hasn't done shit good for the country. And it isn't as if a different president wouldn't have got Bin Laden just the same. It isn't like he was out there tracking him down himself.

Ok Nomad point by point.
1. Race Relations.....it has been a joke ever since the 80s in the US. I am sure you remember high school or a college campus.
2. Refugees.....see what Reagan did in the 80s or since the 60s in the US with Cubans.
3, TPP vs. NAFTA?
4, ISIS exists because there was no greater recruitment tool ever for Muslim "warriors" than invading Iraq.
5. 2nd amendment. It has been a joke in the US for several decades.
6. There could have been another Great Depression, as much as people forget 2008.
7. Iran deal. It is a harsh region. You either go to war and bomb, or try some semblance of diplomacy.
8. Details about specific captive negotiations I agree, should have been dealt with better.

Taking bad race relations and making them even worse isn't a win for Obama.

Cubans and Reagan have absolutely nothing to do with Syrian or Muslim refugees. It's irrelevant if what Reagan did was good or bad. Obama letting in tens of thousands of Syrians is a horrible idea.

TPP and NAFTA are both bad. Previous presidents had made bad decisions. That doesn't mean Obama's aren't also shit. NAFTA has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that TPP is bad for America.

Again, invading Iraq has no bearing on whether Obama has done a good job (he hasn't) in combating ISIS.

You're calling the 2nd amendment a joke? The only joke is people who are too short sighted and naive to understand just how important the 2nd amendment is.

Iran deal was a bad deal. He could have struck a better deal without going to war. It isn't black or white.

You seem to think that because previous presidents have made mistakes that it means Obama hasn't. I don't follow your logic at all. We are not debating Bush vs Obama. We are debating if Obama is "that bad", and he is. Frankly, you don't even appear capable of having a logical debate on the topic with these responses you are coming up with. You're just trying to use misdirection and bringing up irrelevant topics like Cubans and Reagan.

Post: #35

^^^^Obama ruined race relations lol. Yet you offer no evidence and people like you will always divide this country. Sure I don't agree with this administrations policies. But to put it all on the President it's hard to take you seriously.

Post: #36

Obama as president is a 180° degree turn from his book The Audacity of Hope, in which he struck me as an intelligent but most of all benevolent person willing to stand up for principles. The most telling aspect of this is his warmongering. Yes, powerful lobbies exist and corporations like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and Blackwater stand to profit enormously from the administration "intervening" around the world, but the POTUS is still the supreme authority on armed forces. He could literally say "fuck you, I'm withdrawing all US forces from all around the world back home in 30 days", and no one could stop him.

Obama's utter failure on the issues of economy, justice and national security is all the more disappointing precisely because it is in such stark contrast to what was expected of him and what he promised.

Post: #37

(11-20-2015 12:59 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 09:56 PM)Libertas Wrote:  But aside from that, Obama is the worst president in my lifetime.

Then I'd wager you were born in 2008.

As bad as Bush was, Obama has been even worse.

Of all the fuck ups Obama has had, his piss poor economic policies and literally stealing $10 trillion from the middle class and giving it to the wealthy elites, will alone out do the damage Bush made.

This will haunt us the rest of our lives.

Post: #38

Obama is the first 100% media/corporation president of the USA, the fact that somebody with not experience at all came out of nowhere become president not one but twice is a example of mass indoctrination, just compare how the media scrutiny some candidates past vs how they much they put into investigate who the hell is this guy, the media found out about Mitt Romney convincing a woman not to abort when he was involve in the Mormon church almost 30 years ago, how Carson was not really attacked at gunpoint in a Popeye or his tale about scholarship in the 70s was not as he said it was, yet, we still know know much of Obama's past besides what the media allows it to see, most revealing information has come from freelancers journalists and right-wing press, Obama said a domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was just some guy in his neighborhood when his political career was launched in Ayers's basement.

Obama is the first 100% media/corporation president of the USA, the fact that somebody with not experience at all came out of nowhere become president not one but twice is a example of mass indoctrination, just compare how the media scrutiny some candidates past vs how they much they put into investigate who the hell is this guy, the media found out about Mitt Romney convincing a woman not to abort when he was involve in the Mormon church almost 30 years ago, how Carson was not really attacked at gunpoint in a Popeye or his tale about scholarship in the 70s was not as he said it was, yet, we still know know much of Obama's past besides what the media allows it to see, most revealing information has come from freelancers journalists and right-wing press, Obama said a domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was just some guy in his neighborhood when his political career was launched in Ayers's basement.

Post: #39

(11-20-2015 02:40 AM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  ^^^^Obama ruined race relations lol. Yet you offer no evidence and people like you will always divide this country. Sure I don't agree with this administrations policies. But to put it all on the President it's hard to take you seriously.

You're much harder to take seriously since you obviously have trouble reading.

I said he made race relations worse, not ruined them.

Quote me anywhere that I said poor race relations was all Obama's fault like you claim I did.

I'm serious. Quote me where I stated that, because misconstruing what I wrote to mold it to suit your argument is intellectually weak. It's like arguing with a hysterical girl who just makes shit up.

Post: #40

(11-20-2015 03:24 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 02:40 AM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  ^^^^Obama ruined race relations lol. Yet you offer no evidence and people like you will always divide this country. Sure I don't agree with this administrations policies. But to put it all on the President it's hard to take you seriously.

You're much harder to take seriously since you obviously have trouble reading.

I said he made race relations worse, not ruined them.

Quote me anywhere that I said poor race relations was all Obama's fault like you claim I did.

I'm serious. Quote me where I stated that, because misconstruing what I wrote to mold it to suit your argument is intellectually weak. It's like arguing with a hysterical girl who just makes shit up.

He still seems upset over Martin Luther King being portrayed by a white dude.

Post: #41

Some of these have already been said but here goes:

1. He is a male feminist. He highlighted the "women make 70 cents (or thereabouts) to a mans dollar" wage gap false "statistic" in the State of the Union address a few years ago. As someone else noted as well, his administration has aggressively pressured colleges and the military to go on witch hunts to satisfy a non-existent sexual assault/rape epidemic. This bothers me deeply; he is a traitor to his own gender.

2. Obamacare addressed a few of the shortcomings of the US healthcare system but really is a clusterfuck of epic proportions for many different reasons. It improved access to a small degree but did absolutely nothing to address current and future cost issues.

Even when they were working on the details before it was a law, the administration knew they were ignoring fundamental issues with the system but nonetheless, acted like they fixed everything when it became law. Obama and the democrats gave themselves WAY more credit than they deserved and were too egotistic to address major issues with the reform after the fact.

3. Royally fucked up with Syria with his "Red Line" statement. There is a PBS Frontline documentary called Obama at War that covers this in great detail.

The gist is: Obama told the Syrians he had their back if chemical weapons attacks occurred. They did and the Syrians were standing by for help; eager for US intervention that was promised if the "Red Line" was crossed. Obama, being the limp dick that he is, didn't do shit and ISIS came into Syria and took advantage of the situation and all the bitterness caused by Obama's screw up.

This is an excerpt detailing the aforementioned point (you can also see the full doc too if interested at the same site): http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...-in-syria/

4. Taking sides and commenting on controversial criminal race cases that were still being investigated and/or in active trials. Very poor form from someone who is suppose to represent ALL Americans.

The biggest issue with Obama above all is that while he is intelligent, can give powerful prepared speeches, and has a seemingly calm and level-headed demeanor (for better or worse), he isn't a leader.

When he is in campaign mode, he is a master at PRETENDING to be a leader. But its just an act. And when the rubber meets the road and real leadership is called upon, he drops the ball more often than not. Hence, the massive sense of disappointment a lot of people associate with him now. There is no denying anymore, even among liberal people, that Obama at his core isn't a leader. There is too much clear evidence now that proves this.

Post: #42

I'm going to say this, and quickly as possible, because I think it fits in here...

The red pill is bitter. The red pill is nasty. At least when you first take it and until you accept it. Because the red pill is the truth of life and only the truth can hurt. I think a lot of men stumble upon RVF and other red pill websites in an attempt to get better with women. Women are very import to men, it drives us to do everything in life. And women in the western world are a disaster, as deeply discussed here. So men turn to the internet and other sources to learn how to get through all the hurdles and get a decent woman. And their search leads them to life saving websites like RVF. Little do they know the beauty is far greater than just getting women.

To full accept the red pill wisdom can take years, even a decade. I first stumbled upon the red pill over 10 years ago, and still every day I am working to accept more red pill beliefs into my life and to become a better man. That is what men must do, wake up every day with a purpose to get better. For example, recently I have been working on my posture, because I think it is extremely important and also extremely tough psychologically.

But the red pill is about so much more than learning to be good with women. In fact, being good with women is just a minor side effect of fully accepting and living a red pill life. The red pill is about accepting the harsh realities of life and then working with them to have great success. This can be a very bitter process, learning that many you trusted were unknowingly lying to you. They were not being malicious, they were just passing on the same false information they were taught. But once you learn to accept these facts of life and then work with them and then see real improvement, the bitterness goes away and it is replaced with eternal optimism. Today I look forward to waking up every day to work to get better. To answer challenges. To display my dominance in all personal interactions through posture, through voice tone and cadence, through eye contact and nonverbal communication. To become a better man than I was the day before.

If you are defending Obama, as bad as he has been, IMO you have not fully accepted the red pill. Obama has been a complete disaster, especially for lower and middle class men. I doubt there is anyone on this forum with the hundreds of millions it would take to be above the disaster Obama has pushed on men in the western world. This is fine, like I said it is a long and tough process. But if you are defending Obama, I hope you continue to reflect upon yourself and work to accept the red pill beliefs.

It is so liberating to accept the red pill. The view on the mountain top is unbelievable. But I cannot give it to you, I can only hope to inspire you to reach it for yourself.

Post: #43

(11-19-2015 11:03 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  America was going down the drain, in an overall societal way, when I lived there under Clinton and Bush. I don't blame Obama for what was inevitable.
The Clintons and maybe Marco Rubio or Cruz are the only American politicians who are in Obamas intellectual range.

The Clintons are f'in scumbags.

Post: #44

I thought Bill Clinton was a great president. He comes across as a competent charismatic leader. Though I hear some say Reagan was quite capable.

Post: #45

(11-20-2015 05:02 AM)Pride male Wrote:  I thought Bill Clinton was a great president. He comes across as a competent charismatic leader. Though I hear some say Reagan was quite capable.

Clinton is charismatic. Not sure how that equates to great president, or even a decent man. This is a good place to start.

Post: #46

(11-20-2015 04:13 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I'm going to say this, and quickly as possible, because I think it fits in here...

The red pill is bitter. The red pill is nasty. At least when you first take it and until you accept it. Because the red pill is the truth of life and only the truth can hurt. I think a lot of men stumble upon RVF and other red pill websites in an attempt to get better with women. Women are very import to men, it drives us to do everything in life. And women in the western world are a disaster, as deeply discussed here. So men turn to the internet and other sources to learn how to get through all the hurdles and get a decent woman. And their search leads them to life saving websites like RVF. Little do they know the beauty is far greater than just getting women.

To full accept the red pill wisdom can take years, even a decade. I first stumbled upon the red pill over 10 years ago, and still every day I am working to accept more red pill beliefs into my life and to become a better man. That is what men must do, wake up every day with a purpose to get better. For example, recently I have been working on my posture, because I think it is extremely important and also extremely tough psychologically.

But the red pill is about so much more than learning to be good with women. In fact, being good with women is just a minor side effect of fully accepting and living a red pill life. The red pill is about accepting the harsh realities of life and then working with them to have great success. This can be a very bitter process, learning that many you trusted were unknowingly lying to you. They were not being malicious, they were just passing on the same false information they were taught. But once you learn to accept these facts of life and then work with them and then see real improvement, the bitterness goes away and it is replaced with eternal optimism. Today I look forward to waking up every day to work to get better. To answer challenges. To display my dominance in all personal interactions through posture, through voice tone and cadence, through eye contact and nonverbal communication. To become a better man than I was the day before.

If you are defending Obama, as bad as he has been, IMO you have not fully accepted the red pill. Obama has been a complete disaster, especially for lower and middle class men. I doubt there is anyone on this forum with the hundreds of millions it would take to be above the disaster Obama has pushed on men in the western world. This is fine, like I said it is a long and tough process. But if you are defending Obama, I hope you continue to reflect upon yourself and work to accept the red pill beliefs.

It is so liberating to accept the red pill. The view on the mountain top is unbelievable. But I cannot give it to you, I can only hope to inspire you to reach it for yourself.

I was wanting to get out of the US 20 years ago. Obama may have, to some degree accelerated the trend, but the apple was rotting a long time ago, and will continue to rot long after he is gone from office.
I wanted John McCain to win 2008, but he would have done little to curb the tide on the con job done on American men.

Post: #47

(11-19-2015 09:49 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  I don't believe so.

You don't miss this guy??

Post: #48

Great post The Lizard of Oz

Let's not forget the IRS targeting conservatives

Quote:On The Daily Show, President Obama blamed Republicans for the IRS scandal:

“You’ve got this back office, and they’re going after the Tea Party. Well, it turned out, no, Congress had passed a crummy law that didn’t give people guidance in terms of what it was they were trying to do. They did it poorly and stupidly. The truth of the matter is that there was not some big conspiracy there. They were trying to sort out these conflicting demands. You don’t want all this money pouring through non-for- profits, but you also want to make sure everybody is being treated fairly.”

Really, Mr. President? For effect, perhaps he should reprise his testy “not even a smidgen of corruption” remark to Fox News. The President keeps claiming there is no evidence the IRS was used for political targeting. You be the judge:

1. In January 2010, the Supreme Court in Citizens United held it unconstitutional to ban free speech by corporations, unions and other organizations.
2. In August 2010, the IRS distributed a BOLO (Be on the Lookout) list for Tea Party organizations applying for tax exempt status.
3. In October 2010, IRS Exempt Organization chief Lois Lerner met with the DOJ about prosecuting conservative groups.
4. By March 2012, amid reports of targeting, former IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman testifies there is “absolutely no targeting” by the IRS of conservative and/or Tea Party organizations. On November 9, 2012, Mr. Shulman stepped down, replaced by Steven Miller.
5. On May 10, 2013, during a bar meeting, Ms. Lerner admits targeting, calling it “absolutely incorrect, insensitive, and inappropriate.” Four days later, on May 14, 2013, the Inspector General issued a report confirming targeting.
6. On May 15, 2013, Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller resigned. President Obama named Daniel Werfel Acting Commissioner. Mr. Miller and Inspector General J. Russell George testified to the House Ways and Means Committee.
7. On May 22, 2013, Ms. Lerner professed her innocence then takes the Fifth. Next day, she is placed on administrative leave.
8. On June 12, 2013, the IRS finally suspends BOLO lists for Tea Party names.
9. On June 20, 2013, the IRS paid $70 million in bonuses. Ms. Lerner receives $42,000; former Commissioner Miller receives $100,000.
10. On June 24, 2013, the IRS admitted that “inappropriate criteria” were used for tax-exempt status. Next day, Democrats claim progressives were targeted too.
11. On September 24, 2013, Ms. Lerner’s retirement is announced, with full pension.
12. On February 3, 2014, President Obama tells Fox there’s “not a smidgen of corruption” at the IRS.
13. On March 11, 2014, the Committee on House Oversight and Reform issues a report on Lois Lerner.
14. On April 7, 2014, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen confirms there are six investigations: four by Congressional committees, one by the DOJ, one by the TIGTA. Over 250 IRS employees spend 100,000 hours, costing taxpayers at least $14 million.
15. On April 8, 2014, the Committee on House Oversight and Government Reform says it will pursue contempt charges against Ms. Lerner. On May 7, 2014, the House of Representatives holds Ms. Lerner in contempt of Congress.
16. On June 13, 2014 (Friday the 13th!), the IRS first says it lost Ms. Lerner’s emails from 2009 to 2011. The IRS says hard drives and backups are destroyed, for 6 other IRS employees’ too. The IRS spent $10 million trying to recover them.
17. On September 22, 2014, Ms. Lerner breaks silence to Politico, says she is the victim.
18. In November-December 2014, the Inspector General recovers 30,000 backed up Lerner emails.
19. On March 31, 2015, Obama Justice Department officials announce there will be no criminal charges for Lois Lerner.

Post: #49

(11-20-2015 08:52 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 04:13 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I'm going to say this, and quickly as possible, because I think it fits in here...

The red pill is bitter. The red pill is nasty. At least when you first take it and until you accept it. Because the red pill is the truth of life and only the truth can hurt. I think a lot of men stumble upon RVF and other red pill websites in an attempt to get better with women. Women are very import to men, it drives us to do everything in life. And women in the western world are a disaster, as deeply discussed here. So men turn to the internet and other sources to learn how to get through all the hurdles and get a decent woman. And their search leads them to life saving websites like RVF. Little do they know the beauty is far greater than just getting women.

To full accept the red pill wisdom can take years, even a decade. I first stumbled upon the red pill over 10 years ago, and still every day I am working to accept more red pill beliefs into my life and to become a better man. That is what men must do, wake up every day with a purpose to get better. For example, recently I have been working on my posture, because I think it is extremely important and also extremely tough psychologically.

But the red pill is about so much more than learning to be good with women. In fact, being good with women is just a minor side effect of fully accepting and living a red pill life. The red pill is about accepting the harsh realities of life and then working with them to have great success. This can be a very bitter process, learning that many you trusted were unknowingly lying to you. They were not being malicious, they were just passing on the same false information they were taught. But once you learn to accept these facts of life and then work with them and then see real improvement, the bitterness goes away and it is replaced with eternal optimism. Today I look forward to waking up every day to work to get better. To answer challenges. To display my dominance in all personal interactions through posture, through voice tone and cadence, through eye contact and nonverbal communication. To become a better man than I was the day before.

If you are defending Obama, as bad as he has been, IMO you have not fully accepted the red pill. Obama has been a complete disaster, especially for lower and middle class men. I doubt there is anyone on this forum with the hundreds of millions it would take to be above the disaster Obama has pushed on men in the western world. This is fine, like I said it is a long and tough process. But if you are defending Obama, I hope you continue to reflect upon yourself and work to accept the red pill beliefs.

It is so liberating to accept the red pill. The view on the mountain top is unbelievable. But I cannot give it to you, I can only hope to inspire you to reach it for yourself.

I was wanting to get out of the US 20 years ago. Obama may have, to some degree accelerated the trend, but the apple was rotting a long time ago, and will continue to rot long after he is gone from office.
I wanted John McCain to win 2008, but he would have done little to curb the tide on the con job done on American men.

Obama isn't the only person to blame, far from it. And no one here is saying that. Hell, Obama is just a puppet to the global elites, nothing more.

But when asked "is Obama that bad" on a red pill forum, the only answer is "hell yes he is".

McCain is a disaster as well, and Trump has shown that the GOP says all the right things but then never really works to achieve most of it. It is Trump or kiss this good life good bye.

Post: #50

(11-20-2015 02:40 AM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  ^^^^Obama ruined race relations lol. Yet you offer no evidence and people like you will always divide this country. Sure I don't agree with this administrations policies. But to put it all on the President it's hard to take you seriously.

Lets consider one FACT, anytime a white on black crime occurs, he comments on it.
When an illegal immigrant kills a white women in a sanctuary city? Nothing.

When blacks assault whites, kill CEO & family in Georgetown, burn a white girl in Alabama, kill veterans, play the knockout game, create a community in Chicago which results in more casualties per years than the Bay of Pigs or the gulf war, burn cities to the ground, etc, etc? do I need to go on? He doesn’t speak out against this; his silence condones it.

So yeah, as the first black president, he has set a very bad tone for race relations.
You can be an antagonizing apologist or accept facts, either way, he, the leader, decided to comment selectively and stoke tensions.

If you understood Alinsky’s doctrine, you’d understand why Obama looks to inflame and widen divides.