Post: #1

Hi! I only recently discovered The Game and the book Bang! Anyway, long story short I'm usually quite confident with girls and have had, I suppose, average success up to now but never with the girls I *really* fancied who , as one ex-girlfriend told me, "you only ever go for girls who look like dolls!' I am an average looking guy myself but I like girls who are very beautiful.

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To get to this situation where I've fucked up: I started a new job and there was a girl who started the same time as me. She was a 9+ in my books and
I got a major crush on her to the point that it effected my game. Still I asked her out and we went out for dinner a few times and I made some touching and flirting moves and let her know that I was interested. We started hanging out quite a lot -- but she had told me in the first meeting that she had a BF of 5 years. Anyway, people in the office started thinking we were dating as we were spending a lot of time together and it must have effected her since she said to me one day that I shouldn't flirt with her because she told me she already has a BF and she is not sure of my intentions so we can't 'hang out' any more.

By this time I'd fallen in love with her - - i know bad mistake! -- so I decided not to push things and the end result was we became friends but she made it clear she wasn't interested in sex. The problem is I still want to bang her but don't know how to get out of the friend zone.

I only discovered this forum too late. Is there any way to rectify the situation or shall I accept I'm not going to bang her and move on?

Post: #2

Use the search function

Also no. You will not be able to salvage this. Your skill now is not enough and even if you progress at maximum your skill gain will take a long time and meanwhile you will meet dozens of women just as hot and hotter so you will not care. The basic tenet is "if you have to ask about any particular girl, you have already lost her

Post: #3

This is what you do...

Call her every single day and text her pictures of your penis with a blinged out diamond ring on it. Make sure you put it on a hotdog bun, and tell her that you want to have a threesome with her and her boyfriend. Ask her to strip for you and your best friend Justin Bieber at your condo in Miami. Tell her that you do steroids, lift weights, and read the RVF forums and other game books and you will beat up any other guy who talks to her because you're an alpha male. Tell her that her boyfriend cheated on all his college exams, and if she'll be your girlfriend you'll buy her with lavish gifts from Victoria's Secret and Wet Seal. Then send her a naked snapchap wearing nothing but a big gold chain and the diamond ring on your penis, and with Drake's "Hotline Bling" playing in the background as you're jingling your penis to the music, while singing "you used to call me on my cell phone, you used to, you used to, you used to call me on my cell phone, that can only mean one thing, I know when that hotline bling."

Post: #4

Here at the RVF we believe in the principle of abundance. Your goal, young grasshopper, isn't to get this girl. Rather, it is to get five much better girls to suck your dick, possibly in unison.

Post: #5

Normally I would say start dating a girl that was even hotter and show up to social functions to where she is, and and her hypergamy will kick in and she will want to fuck you.

But my god, you have already screwed up badly at this point, you are taking her out to dinner, and not escalating and now she has finally dumped you to be with her boyfriend, so move on. This is not salvagable, go on the hunt for hotter women, and bang them instead.

Post: #6

Your defeat is almost instant, from the get-go you lacked an abundance mentality & thus pedalstilized her.

Thereafter you portrayed yourself as a beta male provider.
How many dinner dates were these?
What are you rewarding her for?
You didn't even kiss her?

It blew up in your face as such low value actions do.
She's made it clear that she will not fuck you, EVER.

Focus on your job, don't shit where you eat.
Your disciplinary hearing will be all about how you moved on her & she shut you down.

You'll learn from your mistakes.

Post: #7

Thanks!
I thought it was unsalvageable.

I'll move on!
Shall I just ignore her from now on or still keep her as a friend on the odd chance that next time we're at a party or we go drinking together that i can try getting her drunk and bang her then?

Post: #8

(11-16-2015 10:15 AM)HNIC Wrote:  Thanks!
I thought it was unsalvageable.

I'll move on!
Shall I just ignore her from now on or still keep her as a friend on the odd chance that next time we're at a party or we go drinking together that i can try getting her drunk and bang her then?

Would you keeping petting a dog that just bit you?

There is your answer.

Post: #9

This is one of the most asked newbie questions.

If you have been friend zoned,

Break off contact entirely
Stay *visible* to the target
10x your game
She will find a way to get back into your life.

This is not a 2 week process. This isn't a gambit.
I'm talking life change.

I've had exes that dumped me, girls that friend zoned me, chicks that faded out..all try and get back down with the King.

Remember, a woman's power fades over time. If you are on the ball, your power grows. Most guys squander what they have.

You are lucky because you are here.

Lemme break it down in a practical sense.

You eat better
You work out with a purpose
You dress better

You are more social
You do more things
You have more friends

You no longer have approach anxiety or fear of rejection.
You know what you want to say and how to deliver it
You get a lot more experience with girls
Female antics no longer shake your resolve.

I had my ex back in bed after a horrible break up.

She said, "You're so different now."

And i was thinking to myself, "you're still the same"

WIA

Post: #10

If you have to take the time to put more than 15 minutes of thought into "how do I get this one girl?" Then its likely you've already lost her. If you're hung up on one particular girl before you've banged her, then you've probably let bad game leak out and the interaction is "totaled". Meaning it's no longer worth the cost to repair it, even if it is repairable, just like a totaled vehicle.

I've totaled plenty of interactions myself. Fortunately there are 3.5 billion other models on the lot.

Post: #11

(11-15-2015 02:14 PM)HNIC Wrote:  Hi! I only recently discovered The Game and the book Bang! Anyway, long story short I'm usually quite confident with girls and have had, I suppose, average success up to now but never with the girls I *really* fancied who , as one ex-girlfriend told me, "you only ever go for girls who look like dolls!' I am an average looking guy myself but I like girls who are very beautiful.

--
To get to this situation where I've fucked up: I started a new job and there was a girl who started the same time as me. She was a 9+ in my books and
I got a major crush on her to the point that it effected my game. Still I asked her out and we went out for dinner a few times and I made some touching and flirting moves and let her know that I was interested. We started hanging out quite a lot -- but she had told me in the first meeting that she had a BF of 5 years. Anyway, people in the office started thinking we were dating as we were spending a lot of time together and it must have effected her since she said to me one day that I shouldn't flirt with her because she told me she already has a BF and she is not sure of my intentions so we can't 'hang out' any more.

By this time I'd fallen in love with her - - i know bad mistake! -- so I decided not to push things and the end result was we became friends but she made it clear she wasn't interested in sex. The problem is I still want to bang her but don't know how to get out of the friend zone.

I only discovered this forum too late. Is there any way to rectify the situation or shall I accept I'm not going to bang her and move on?

As always WIA said way better than I can, and others have given you some great advice as well so I'll only add this.

The only way you'll ever get to bang this chick is IF and when you get to a place where you truly, absolutely, positively, don't give a rat's ass if you don't.

Post: #12

The legendary WIA has answered! Note to self that self improvement should always be the focus.

Post: #13

WIA,

That's awesome advice!
Thanks

Post: #14

(11-16-2015 10:15 AM)HNIC Wrote:  Shall I just ignore her from now on or still keep her as a friend on the odd chance that next time we're at a party or we go drinking together that i can try getting her drunk and bang her then?

Men are never friends with women.

I'd tell you to save her contact info and have her bring her hot friends to the next party you host, so that you can bang them instead, but....

....no matter what, until you internalize the fact she isn't worth your time, you're still going to want to bang her and will fail to capitalize on opportunities to play hide the salami with her friends.

Just forget about her.

Post: #15

From what your wrote here YOU ARE NOT IN THE FRIEND ZONE. I'm surprised that everybody followed the title and didn't even notice what's up. Look...

(11-15-2015 02:14 PM)HNIC Wrote:  Still I asked her out and we went out for dinner a few times and I made some touching and flirting moves and let her know that I was interested.

Boom! That alone says you're not her normal friend.

(11-15-2015 02:14 PM)HNIC Wrote:  Anyway, people in the office started thinking we were dating as we were spending a lot of time together and it must have effected her since she said to me one day that I shouldn't flirt with her because she told me she already has a BF and she is not sure of my intentions so we can't 'hang out' any more.

When others suspect something it means you don't even come across as typical friend when you are with her.

(11-15-2015 02:14 PM)HNIC Wrote:  By this time I'd fallen in love with her - - i know bad mistake! -- so I decided not to push things and the end result was we became friends but she made it clear she wasn't interested in sex. The problem is I still want to bang her but don't know how to get out of the friend zone.

She doesn't want you cause she's loyal to her BF. That's why she told you that you both shouldn't flirt [she flirts with her gay friends] and that's why she told you she's not sure of your intentions [she is, she just wanted to excuse herself from uncomfortable situation]. If she was single she would probably be already yours.

You made a move like a man and she happened to be taken. Nothing wrong with that.

Still wanna get her? Follow what WIA posted. It's textbook move in that situation. Keep contact with her but not too much, work on yourself, game other girls, follow your path. After a while you will communicate with her in a different way cause you'll be different, you'll feel more free and grounded and she will become a girl in your eyes.

But do all that for YOURSELF, not for her. Treat that situation like an impulse to move your ass.