Post: #1

In the past year, I've been getting strong urges to impregnate women, to the point where I no longer trust myself to be careful during sex. When a girl told me the other week that she would keep any baby if I accidentally impregnated her, I became more interested in her. An accidental pregnancy in the past would have been a nightmare scenario, but now I wouldn't mind it as long as the girl wasn't a slut.

I think this is happening for a couple reasons:

1. My resources are secure enough to raise a kid (in Eastern Europe)
2. I'm getting older
3. I see more value in family than before
4. I'm bored of sterile interactions with women

I'm not the first one to have this "problem": /thread-7138.html

Anyone else been bitten by the urge? I know in the manosphere it is said that having children is "slavery" or something similarly negative, but it's getting harder to deny my natural urges to have them. I set up a poll above to get an idea where the forum stands on this. I know several guys are already dads.

Post: #2

Funny you posted this, I was just thinking about it, I've been feeling the exact same thing for a couple of years now, and it's getting stronger and stronger. The problem is that I want to be a father but don't want to get married, besides I'm in Miami right now and it's really hard to find a girl you would want to have kids with here. Honestly I've been thinking a lot about this lately and I'm seriously considering going somewhere to Europe or LatAm to find a potential mother.

Post: #3

Yes, it is only natural.

Post: #4

I'm currently weaning myself off both easier girls and just girls I want to bang, yet I know they would never be the mother of my children.

It is a tough process when for over a decade I have been in a mindset in the opposite direction.

I think you will have things easier finding a good candidate out there. Here in California it can be tough between cost of living, divorce rates, entitlement, and so on.

I am sure solo will have some great words of advice when he returns as far as picking the right girl.

Post: #5

Quote:I'm currently weaning myself off both easier girls and just girls I want to bang

Same. I'm trying not to sleep with girls I wouldn't mind accidentally impregnating. Abortion is not an option for me (assuming I have a say in the matter).

Trying is the key word. Sometimes a man needs sex quickly, and there are many sluts around.

Post: #6

My key to this has been to stay with one "bottom bitch".

It is still hard. I don't go to bars or clubs now on purpose. I don't do online game on purpose. I however have set up my logistics so well and honed my day game because of this forum I see a girl walk by going at that certain pace with that certain body language and certain look it is very hard to pass up.

I am afraid however of ending up like some male acquaintances I have known that keep the same lifestyle and are now getting to be late 30s running into the same type of girls that are not great mother material.

I think I will have to seriously invest in some social communities where the best girls for the job are at. I need to switch my energies.

That said I have a date with a 26 year old careerist blonde chick I want to bang the day lights out of tomorrow and another little cute German blonde exchange student in text from day game. Neither are mother candidates. Should I drop them? My penis has a gun to my head and I'm sweating.

Post: #7

I've thought about it, quite often. But the negatives, which we know and have been covered multitutes of times, outweigh the desire I have for having kid(s).

Maybe I'm defeatist in my thinking, but it's what I believe. There would have to be truly great changes in modern society to make me reconsider.

Post: #8

Quote:That said I have a date with a 26 year old careerist blonde chick I want to bang the day lights out of tomorrow and another little cute German blonde exchange student in text from day game. Neither are mother candidates. Should I drop them? My penis has a gun to my head and I'm sweating.

In my shoes...

No to the careerist girl. Probably already ruined, toxic womb, on birth control, etc. If she was traditional, had a really long past relationship, I'd maybe consider a date or two, but careerist is bad sign.

Go out with the student. Try to bang while finding out what her life goals are and if she's too slutty or not. Probably would bang this no matter the result of your data gathering. But "exchange students" from foreign countries are usually crazy ambitious.

If you're really serious about being a dad, or at least finding a potential mom, having sex with girls who don't fit the profile will be a big waste of time and likely delay your search.

Post: #9

I was in the Yes camp for a while, but now I cast my vote for I'm not sure yet.

When I was rawdogging some chick in the Philippines, this little voice in my head said "go ahead and blast inside her... impregnate her."

Of course I pulled out, but I've never had a thought like that before, not even with my ex wife. I believe it's a primal urge that only occurs when you are genetically compatible with the woman you're with. It's your biology talking.

1. Even though I may want a kid, I do NOT want to raise the kid in the anglosphere.
2. I'm open to having kids without marrying.
3. Ideally, the mother and I would raise the kid together. But where and in which culture?

Since I'm not going to raise a kid in my own (American) culture, then I'm going to have to learn a different culture and I'm going to have to do it relatively quickly. I'm almost 36, and I feel my own biological clock is starting to tick a little more loudly.

Post: #10

Yes exactly it is a big waste.

TravelerKai is the best contemporary example on the forum of a guy in his 30s achieving this with what seems a great result. He had multiple good women to chose from. I want to be in the same position and not cling to the first good candidate I meet out of eagerness.

I need to have the discipline and put in the work to put myself in the same position.

Post: #11

I think it's normal and follows human biology and evolutionary psychology for a man to want to settle down more and have a child as he enters his late 30's on into his 40's. I think Roosh is experiencing this, I know I'm starting to feel it a little at the age of 31 which still isn't even that old. I'm just not that into going out 2-3 nights a week, staying up late, getting drunk, being hung over, etc., it takes a toll on your body and over all health mentally and physically. Also I'm just not feeling the effort it can sometime take to pursue girls that aren't that awesome and that I'm not that excited about.

In regards to having a child I'm not quite there yet, but the truth is no one lives forever, I think there is something to be said for procreating and carrying on your legacy through your offspring, it's basically your seed, DNA, and genetics living on after you die. No offense to any older members here, but in a way I think it's somewhat sad when you meet a man in his 60's who has never married or had a child, unless he's some kind of super alpha tycoon who lives a Hugh Hefner lifestyle, but usually he's a sad, lonely old man with no close family or loved ones.

Eventually we'll all reach the age where we'll need someone to lean on and eventually rely on, if you have a child you have someone who will be there for you to help take care of you in your old age, or at the very least have someone to visit you in your nursing home. I think it would be sad to be an old man with no one who would care to take care of me, unless I'm paying them, you really can't buy the bond that family gives you.

Post: #12

When you have kids you realize why you are on this planet.So many other fathers say this to me .And it's true for me.
All my fuck ups and success led to my kids.
Maybe I'm lucky I don't know.I do have mates older than me who have no kids but their name dies with them.
I never planned shit I just jumped in... nothing last forever but there is a measure of two way unconditional love and affection that you'll get from no woman.

I do pay alot of child support considering how much I care for my kids.The thing is since I swallowed the red pill the more my 2 older kids want to live with me.

"There ain't nothing better than blood on blood".

Post: #13

I definitely want to have kids one day. It's an experience I think will be immensely rewarding and as an educated, financially secure white male I believe it is also my duty to do so. More people like me need to be having kids, to raise the next generation of upstanding citizens so that we can combat all the brats being popped out by the what-is-contraception-5-kids-to-3-different-fathers uneducated, welfare living lower class ferals.

And like OGNorCal707 said, I don't want to be hitting my dotage with no close family around. I see the joy grand children brought my grandparents and other people I know so that is another thing I look forward to with having kids.

Post: #14

I'm not a father yet and in no way could afford to be at this point. But in 7 years when I get out of the military, I'd like to become a father.

I already can't help myself from seeing how each woman I meet would be like as a wife and mother. I hate condoms but my pullout game is strong and I only cum down a woman's throat or her ass, so I'm not worried about accidental children just yet. I've lost interest in a girl almost completely after finding out she was more experienced than I was (I could tell before she told me but the confirmation was the last straw).

G

Post: #15

When girls ask me "so what are you looking for?" my go to answer is, "I'm looking for the Mother Of My Children (MOMC). I need to get started because I want enough kids to field a basketball team." That's not a joke. The only thing keeping me from that is cash, plain and simple. And of course logistics, because I'd want a kid from many different women of different races. I get downright anxious at the mere possibility of only having to choose one Russian, Korean, French, Jamaican, Persian or Cuban MOMC.

Not to mention I had a great father and I've learned a few extra things here and there, so no doubt I believe I'd do a fucking great job, son or daughter.

Post: #16

Super mega dad here.

Today.. Shopkins shopkins shopkins! Once you shop you can't stop!!

Also we did airhogs and raizor electic scooters..

Oh yeah I fought with her mom too and clowned her..

Oh and she called my mom.. Also got clowned.

My kid though. She's as crooked and shady as myself it only takes eye contact to speak to each other.

The entire family is confused!

Ok enough about my pride..

You will get bored at some point slamming whores

Have a great lawyer to make it all come true.

Post: #17

I'm in my mid-40's. Having kids still seems like a trap. Most women I date are into me for 6-12 months. Seems best to move on after that. I've done longer, but it never seems to get better. Crazy expectations, less sex, etc.

I don't see the case for settling down.

Post: #18

^ I am going to be a cynic here and say I probably don't expect the mother of my children to work out forever.

I'd be happy if we lasted together in the same house until the children were in elementary school during the day.

Honestly a big thing I will look for in a woman is how bitchy I think she would be after a separation. How important she thinks it is to have the father around and so on.

You can have your kids then just go back to being a player after that. Although it still seems a good idea for the kids' sake and your sanity to pick a woman you can get along with and that knows having a father around for them is very important.

Post: #19

Travesty, in your plan do you want to marry the mother of your kids or just long term dating and living together? I struggle a bit with all the stuff I read here. I don't mean that in a bad way. In the world around me I don't know many divorced couples. The parents I know are strong, good parents who take it seriously. But the stuff I read here really makes me think about worse case. I do wonder if my worse case thinking is going to damage a relationship early.

For example, she honestly would like something but I may think she is trying to game me. When really it is an innocent request. Not the best example. Or my prenup and asset protection plans just signal I think it will end.

Anyway, I am on team want to have kids just need a good mother and good person who knows life can be tough and doesn't quit at the first sign life difficulty.

Post: #20

I posted in a similar thread recently that sums up my thoughts about the subject.

(09-28-2015 12:39 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  I do wonder if my worse case thinking is going to damage a relationship early.

After immersing myself in the red-pill over the last few years, this is a very real problem for me and for most of us here who genuinely want an LTR with a view to having kids.

I think it comes down to risk mitigation, causing us to never truly be comfortable or invested in the relationship for fear of getting burnt. That's a double edged sword however, as fulfillment from being in an LTR can only ever come from giving your all, not phoning it in per se.

I think that's where our game knowledge comes into play - we can't ever have 100% certainty about a relationship working out long term, but we have the tools to finesse it if that's what we truly want. Combine that with careful vetting of a prospective LTR, and you're well on your way to achieving that goal (theoretically).

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Post: #22

(09-28-2015 01:18 AM)LINUX Wrote:  *snip*

You could just skip the bullshit and say you don't want to have kids.

G

Post: #23

Windom Earle,

100 percent agree. I'd like to give it all like I do in my other efforts but there is this, well currently imagined in my mind, power struggle. It may be subtle but one of the two in a couple usually has more power.

We may call it risk mitigation or cost benefit, etc. But it is some form of fear of failure I think. Maybe there is a better word or description. But it is trying to find a way to deal with unknowns ahead of time. Or at least it is for me. These last few years have really taught me a lot about trying to control risk, that to some degree you can't. That you don't always have it go your way. After decades of success these last few years have been quite the kick in the balls for me. And maybe this is the lesson I needed to really learn to settle myself down and raise a family. I have always wanted a family but have always had opportunities to do things I found interesting, which took my focus.

Post: #24

(09-28-2015 03:32 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  We may call it risk mitigation or cost benefit, etc. But it is some form of fear of failure I think. Maybe there is a better word or description. But it is trying to find a way to deal with unknowns ahead of time.

I think this way of thinking is also more apparent if you're a child of divorce.

There isn't that shining example present, reinforcing/reassuring that it is possible.

Post: #25

I've said it before and i'll say it again:

Nature has dictated that your genes are fit for reproduction and has given you a desire to pass your traits onto the next generation. Unlike certain others (gays and careerist women) you are a winner in the eyes of nature and evolution.

The question is, are you going to heed the call?

However when it comes to mother material: