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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
Finally for some good news for once:
Public protest forces German city to remove refugees and backtrack on migrant centre
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6977...gee-centre
Quote:The decision against a refugee centre comes amid growing tension between local Germans and the growing migrant population following a series of terror attacks in Europe in recent weeks.
In Rostock, a series of protests and attacks against refugees in the city have prompted a drastic change of mind.
Quote:The city, located in the north east of the country, had planned to establish a refugee housing centre in the local district of Gross Klein to accommodate the increase in the arrival of migrants to Germany.
But, according to the police, a group of German youths had tried to storm the building recently, fuelling fears the new arrivals would be at risk.
Quote:"They will consider this decision as a victory for them."
Yes. Yes, we will.
Quote:Ulrike Seemann-Katz, from the local state refugee advisory council, agreed that the decision sent a poor signal.
She told DW: "This is really a huge mistake.
"The signal means, 'All we need to do is make enough noise or throw enough stones or whatever, and then they'll give up.' And I don't think that's acceptable."
Well, she doesn't actually think it's unacceptable behavior per se - she's all for it when rapefugees do it to cross a sealed border or to demand their gibs. She just thinks it's unacceptable if Germans do it. - Isn't that like... totally racist?? She has higher standards for German behavior, meaning she thinks less of the rapefugees. Oy vey.
Quote:Newly released figures on Wednesday show there have been 665 crimes targeting refugee homes in Germany this year alone.
In June, security expert Holger Munch said Germany is witnessing "an alarming level of far-right violence" against refugees.
Literally liek anuddah shoah. The tide is turning.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
https://www.ft.com/content/48882f9a-5d48...4bf1198c63
Quote:The package included €3bn in aid for the 2.7m Syrian refugees living in Turkey and an agreement to relocate one Syrian to Europe for every one sent back to Turkey. The most politically appealing offer for Turkey’s leadership was the promise of visa-free travel for Turkish passport holders to the EU’s borderless Schengen zone.
Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkey’s foreign minster, unleashed an angry response from Germany last week when he warned that Ankara would “renounce” the bargain if visa liberalisation was not granted by October, a deadline already pushed back from the end of June. Sigmar Gabriel, Germany’s deputy chancellor, said his country “should not let itself be blackmailed” by Turkey.
Of course the deal with Turkey is going to shit, who can negotiate with these fuckers?
Quote:Despite technical and political glitches, the number of people using smugglers to make the sea journey from Turkey’s Aegean coast to the chain of nearby Greek islands has fallen sharply since the landmark deal was struck in March.
According to official figures, before the agreement, about 1,740 migrants were crossing from Turkey’s Aegean coast to the chain of nearby Greek islands every day. In June, the daily average was 48.
Turkey, however, has made clear that it will not continue to uphold its obligations — which include clamping down on smuggling networks and taking back all “irregular” migrants arriving in Greece from Turkey after March 20 — if it is not granted the full array of promised incentives.
It does seem however it did have an effect. But are they not counting the arrivals from the African front? The Sudanese, Eritreans, Somalis, etc....
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 11:46 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: I just love how some press/police says southern men" , as if there's scores of Portuguese, Spanish, Italians, Greeks etc trying to rape half of Germany. Too bad these "southern men" are often from the Magreb or even deeper in Africa or from the Middle East. Something about not naming the enemy makes victory impossible.
They have to start deporting the offenders ASAP. The problem is that their own countries often won't take them back. Like Trump said in Mexico's case, when they send people, they're not sending their best. And they make active policy of sending their absolute worst, in this case.
Even with the PC leftist BS that is rampant in Western Europe I am more and more certain of impending violence. All these impediments would cease quickly if most of the affected countries were not so prosperous, violence would come quicker.
Everyone in Germany know what the term "southern men" stands for, Arabs and Turks. No one things negative of Italians, Greek, Spanish or Portuguese people. It was a code word but now they mention more and more that offenders are arab looking or black. Cologne did change this.
Just today I read more about criminal beggar gangs. Then the increase of burglary, prostitution and drug crimes are in the hand of arab clans. Millions of fake refugees storm Germany and commit crimes and terror. Personal I'm at the point where I support strict cleaning of the scum. Only with fire we can take your country back, we have to stop the cancer like spreading of tolerance for the scum of the world. We have to outcast the scum into labour camps. We can build some in the more empty parts of Germany and in the long run in nothern Africa. They can eat themselves inside those camps. Furthermore we need beat them up, cut of hands and hang some. Hell I guess we only need 10 public hangings and the world will know. People are like kids or dogs, when you aren't strict with them, they will never follow the rules.
For us, these conflicts can be resolved by appeal to the deeply ingrained higher principle embodied in the law, that individuals have the right (within defined limits) to choose how to live. But this Western notion of individualism and tolerance is by no means a conception in all cultures. - Theodore Dalrymple
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
Ah yes, that's not what I meant to imply. Simply that the word southerner applied to a german context makes sense pretty much only in the European context because if by southerner they seem to mean everything south of Germany, that would go from Egypt to South Africa and from the Middle East to South East Asia.
Just a purposefully vague way of naming criminals. But I'm glad they are calling the oxes by their names now
Oh boy, you went straight old school violence over there! I'm not sure whether violence or deportation is more likely but I would advocate small scale and surgically applied violence and mass deportations of wrong doers. Seems the "cleanest" way.
(08-09-2016 12:20 PM)Parzival Wrote: (08-09-2016 11:46 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: I just love how some press/police says southern men" , as if there's scores of Portuguese, Spanish, Italians, Greeks etc trying to rape half of Germany. Too bad these "southern men" are often from the Magreb or even deeper in Africa or from the Middle East. Something about not naming the enemy makes victory impossible.
They have to start deporting the offenders ASAP. The problem is that their own countries often won't take them back. Like Trump said in Mexico's case, when they send people, they're not sending their best. And they make active policy of sending their absolute worst, in this case.
Even with the PC leftist BS that is rampant in Western Europe I am more and more certain of impending violence. All these impediments would cease quickly if most of the affected countries were not so prosperous, violence would come quicker.
Everyone in Germany know what the term "southern men" stands for, Arabs and Turks. No one things negative of Italians, Greek, Spanish or Portuguese people. It was a code word but now they mention more and more that offenders are arab looking or black. Cologne did change this.
Just today I read more about criminal beggar gangs. Then the increase of burglary, prostitution and drug crimes are in the hand of arab clans. Millions of fake refugees storm Germany and commit crimes and terror. Personal I'm at the point where I support strict cleaning of the scum. Only with fire we can take your country back, we have to stop the cancer like spreading of tolerance for the scum of the world. We have to outcast the scum into labour camps. We can build some in the more empty parts of Germany and in the long run in nothern Africa. They can eat themselves inside those camps. Furthermore we need beat them up, cut of hands and hang some. Hell I guess we only need 10 public hangings and the world will know. People are like kids or dogs, when you aren't strict with them, they will never follow the rules.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 12:20 PM)Parzival Wrote: Personal I'm at the point where I support strict cleaning of the scum. Only with fire we can take your country back, we have to stop the cancer like spreading of tolerance for the scum of the world. We have to outcast the scum into labour camps. We can build some in the more empty parts of Germany and in the long run in nothern Africa. They can eat themselves inside those camps. Furthermore we need beat them up, cut of hands and hang some. Hell I guess we only need 10 public hangings and the world will know. People are like kids or dogs, when you aren't strict with them, they will never follow the rules.
Parzival, mein Guter, was is passiert mit dir??
O shit, Parzival, this seems almost like a 180°-turn from just a few days ago when you were still talking about the moral high ground, and all that other noise. Either redpillage has taken over your account to keep posting here without going back on his word, or you've taken a closer look at the country right now  .
I'm starting to like you, my man! Just try to keep both extremes a little in check. Good thing you uncucked yourself - I'm happy to see it - but don't overdo it going into the other extreme. Mass-deportations and a new constitution/new (less!) laws are all we need and utilized force should be mainly limited to enforcing these.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 01:18 PM)Parzival Wrote: I just did express whats under the surface for long.
That's great. Like I said, I like this Parzival much better than the self-suppressed version pretending all of this could still be managed in a civilized way.
(08-09-2016 01:18 PM)Parzival Wrote: Still prefer other solutions but if no solutions works, you need a final solution. I also did express more strict solutions long time ago.
C'mon, man. Now you're just plain trolling  I cracked up when I read that, especially coming from you.
That final solution is mass-expulsion (like it always was, btw). This time, let's just skip the camps-part since we're not in need of cheap labor. - On the contrary!
It's an easy two-step program. Simple, yet effective. Like a one-two punch:
Step 1)
Step 2)
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
I never did want them, I never did care about them. For me those people are worthless. And when they commit crimes they have for me not even basic human rights.
A civilized way is when a special police unit kicks in front doors at 5 am and arrest invaders. A civilized way is when invaders will send to camps and face deportation. A civilized way is, when everyone that enters European borders get send direct to camps. A civilized way is when criminal invaders get a beating because for them special rights apply, before face deportation. This would be the way I prefer. I don't mind building and finance refugee camps in the middle east to keep them out of Europe. Out of this we can maybe pick the best ones that are actual a benefit for society.
My prediction is, that Europe and Germany falls apart into different areas and people will take stuff in their own hand. Imagine an independent bavaria. We wouldn't have the crap of other states. No Merkel that put us down. At the end it will all not help people people are still to naive and have a too high trust in authorities. How can you have trust when you see criminal invaders get released and released after each crime? How can you have trust when no go areas are spreading and migrants did not face any issues even before the crisis?
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article157...strom.html
Quote:It was the top managers and economists, it was Germany's business elite that most widespread confidence. For them the refugee stream flowing to the country do not made them worry. On the contrary, people who sought refuge here, could solve the big problems of the Federal Republic - so the idea.
Apparently, the decision makers have now been overtaken by reality.
Significant 75 percent of respondents in the boardrooms think that a new flow of refugees to the previous year overwhelmed the country economically.
The decision-makers have come to realize in recent months that the majority of refugees do not mean short and medium term assistance to the German labor market.
This is something we should never forget, the talks of the big managers. It was not only Merkel. It was them too. Cultural integration? Millions of low IQ people? Let the people deal with this, we pick the best for our companies. At the end, in the 30 companies of the DAX, only 54 refugees found a job, 50 of them at the German Post. There are also plenty of stories out there of small business owners that did hope the refugees solve their issues but it is different. Refugees drop jobs in masses because they are not used to real work. They are lazy by nature and they are right. They get everything for free anyway, only an idiot would work then.
For us, these conflicts can be resolved by appeal to the deeply ingrained higher principle embodied in the law, that individuals have the right (within defined limits) to choose how to live. But this Western notion of individualism and tolerance is by no means a conception in all cultures. - Theodore Dalrymple
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 01:18 PM)Parzival Wrote: I just did express whats under the surface for long. Still prefer other solutions but if no solutions works, you need a final solution. I also did express more strict solutions long time ago.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
Parzival should open a music shop specialising in WW2-era German music, and call it 'The Vinyl Solution'.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
German family travel to Russia to claim Asylum - claiming their country is no longer safe because of the migrant influx
Quote:A German family travelled to Russia before claiming asylum - insisting their homeland is no longer safe because of the influx of migrants.
Carola Griesbach, 51, and her husband Andre, 45, drove the 1,400 miles from northern Germany to Moscow's Red Square in a VW camper van to escape the 'German dictatorship'.
Two of their daughters, Dominique and Julia, along with four of their grandchildren were also crammed into the van.
The family left Germany for a number of reasons including that they were concerned about the number of migrants entering the country.
However, since arriving on New Year's Eve in 2015, they have been stranded at a small motel in a forest outside the Russian capital with the authorities knocking back their claims for asylum.
The Russian government considers Germany a 'safe' country and the family are not allowed to become asylum seekers in Russian.
But the Griesbachs claim they had no time to organise more suitable paperwork.
Andre said: 'We have been worried ever since we staged a protest against the German Government outside the Bundestag [Parliament] from September to December 2013.
'We don't feel like Germany is a safe place for us, or to bring up children.
'When we left Germany in December 2015 we had no time to organise anything.
'We only got a tourist visa just so we could enter the country. There was no time to arrange a work visa.'
Since arriving in Russia's famous Red Square, the family have been relying on the good will of the Russian people and legal technicalities to allow them to stay.
The Griesbachs claim that the agreement between Russia and Germany to stop fighting in 1918 was no true peace agreement, and that therefore the countries are still at war. In this scenario, they argue, the Russian state has a duty to protect them.
And they are desperate to stay.
Andre said: 'We want to stay here and work. We are not interested in living off the state.
'I've had plenty of people offer me work, as a farmer, or a construction worker. I built my own house in Germany. I could also work as a translator or a German language teacher.
'In Germany you need so many qualifications to get some jobs, but in Russia you can just do it. I'll be happy to work once the Russian government lets me.
'We are really hoping we can stay. We are really free here.'
Work as a translator might be a long way off, however. Their case is not being helped by their lack of understanding of Russian, and their survival funds are drying up fast.
Andre added: 'My Russian is not very good so we have to have all the documents translated.
'As we don't have much money left, we are relying on the good will of local people to help us.
'But the Russian people are unbelievably helpful. No one can beat them in this respect. We certainly would not get this kind of help from Germans, because they are far too selfish.'
As well as the selfishness of their fellow Germans, the Griesbach's complaints about Germany range from the number of refugees and lack of democracy to forced immunisation and the 'early sexualisation' of children.
Andre said: 'People believe Germany is a democracy but it's not.
'It's morally corrupt and people don't about anything like punctuality or crime anymore. There is no society.
'Russian society is much better, and Putin is a much better example of a leader. The German state is corrupt, so he is much more democratic than Merkel.
'They are inviting all the immigrants over so they can stir up trouble in the country and start the war the government wants.
'No country but Germany wants so many foreigners in their country.
'The Americans' wars, the Syrian war, Germany helps pay for all of this stupidity.
'The child protection services are so quick to take children away from their parents. They get paid to do it, and it's almost like child trafficking.. We were worried it would happen to us.
'And the children are sexualised far too early through clothes and pictures and books. There's no way to fight against it.
'It's a lot better in Russia. They care about the family and put it first.'
Carola said: 'Everyone knows the situation in the German media, and on the relationship between migrants and violence is. The media reports on a small part.
'It's not safe for children or women in Germany anymore.
'The Police rarely look into cases, because they are prevented from doing so by the system or they are attacked by the so-called asylum seekers.
'But let me make it clear - we don't have anything against asylum seekers. We have a duty to help people worse off than ourselves.'
As for the rest of the relatives back at home, the family say they have their complete support.
Andre said: 'They didn't find it great that we left without telling them at all.
'But we speak over Facebook and now they support us.
'We won't see them again unless they come here to visit. Going anywhere in the EU is out of the question for us.'
Many Germans do not feel the same, however. The asylum seekers have been ridiculed online by their compatriots.
Lars Klingenberg wrote: 'Quite honestly, I don't know whether I should laugh or cry because of the children.
'Before I stuff money down your throats, I'd rather give money to a local refugee organisation that looks after real refugees and asylum seekers.'
Lara Kareglazka wrote: 'It's a shame that the children have to suffer for the idiocy of the parents and grandparents. Irresponsible and antisocial!'
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 04:55 PM)Parzival Wrote: Some of you guys are hitlerious...
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
(08-09-2016 05:13 PM)scotian Wrote: If Trump gets elected he should troll the fuck out of Europe and especially Germany by offering expressed immigration to educated Europeans, for every European the US takes in, they should kick out a 3rd world migrant.
Trump can fuck with them in better way, take every NATO member that is not paying their fair share give them an ultimatum, pay now or we will romeve defense from you, this create two option for them
-They pay, but now a huge money has to be directed toward something that is not refugee, immigration, with a increasing welfare foreign population that is not good to run out of money.
-They do not pay but USA remove every defense they get, now they have to build a defense on their own, but they still have to spend billions to do so, something like an air carrier cost easily 2 billions, they will need lots of money and time to be able to build a defense on their own, this option also means more military native Europeans will need to be in the whole military, as we know military people tend lean more conservative nationalist, not country in Europe wants to be left defenseless with Russia there.
But in both options Trump can also give another ultimatum, why are we USA defending you of attacks and at the same time you have a mass uncontrolled immigration of dangerous people we know wants to conquer and kill Europeans? is not the point of USA defense of Europe to protect from foreign attacks? the whole immigration and refugee is a waste of American taxpayer money, is like paying for somebody bodyguard but then the person move to the most dangerous palace in the city and sleep with the doors and windows unlocked.
what Turkey is doing is blackmailing Europe, "give us money or we will flood Europe", there are many ways Trump can fuck with Turkey as a NAT member.
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