(08-04-2016 03:54 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Even IF Jews are pushing this agenda, WE ARE STILL BUYING IT. If we are truly such a superior race, why is it that we are so easily convinced by "Jewish lies?" I'm sick and tired of this bullshit. The reality is that we have *agency* and that native Europeans are pushing for this just as much as Rabbi Goldstein. It's time to stop seeking excuses for the behavior of our people, be it "pathological altruism" or "rabbi made me do it." It's US. We have serious problems. We are a sick people, and changing the demographics so that we're 97% white again might lower the crime rate, but it won't cure the fact that we are a spiritually dead people. The "race war" you keep LARPing about isn't going to fix our problems. All that can help us at this point is a complete paradigm shift in our way of thinking - away from the secular, materialistic "don't judge" morality infecting whites across party lines, back to a genuinely religious, tradition-based and uncompromising morality with ZEAL beyond the temporal that can actually take a stand to the Muslims we've been importing en masse into our countries."

Just saw this on facebook.

Absolutely correct - we are buying it. I for one can say that I sort of "woke up" some 6 years ago, so that means that while I was never a SJWS, I did read a lot of the mainstream media and official history. I somehow knew that something is off about our world, but could not put my finger on it. If a train only drives on one track, then it does not matter how fast it can go - it will only drive on that same track.

But to my defense - when I encountered alternative viewpoints - for me it was the Zeitgeist movies (it has limitations there, but it is a good start) - at least I delved into it to find out whether this could be true. Then I researched in earnest sifting in the end through "white papers" like the Congressional Reece Commission on Foundations in the 1950s. And suddenly all of what is happening in our world made sense!

It makes sense why they flood the West with unfitting immigrants,
It makes sense why they foster the most backwards and radical forms of Islam
It makes sense why the entire Mainstream Media, political establishment and academia cucks for the same narrative
It makes sense why they destroy family value, promote degeneracy as superior

It truly all makes sense and I can recommend everyone to start that research yourself. Sites like cuttingthroughthematrix.com & americandeception , books of CFR historians like Carroll Quigley & Stanford historians like Antony Sutton & actual Congressional documents like from the Reece Commission - all those sources shed a decent light on our world. You can also watch plenty of documentaries which are solid like THRIVE which was done by a family scion of the Procter&Gamble globalist clan (it's a bit new-agey, but the facts in the movie are good).

Just as I almost instantly accepted the Red Pill some 2,7 years ago the other stuff made sense too.

Then you stop asking to find the answers to the questions by Parzival - you simply know.

....

As for the sheep being guilty for being so gullible - yes. I have read some statements of globalists that they despise the public, because they believe in indoctrination so easily. It has been shown again and again that if you stuff a hobo into a 5000 dollar wardrobe, give him a proper cleanup, teach him to act with semi-confidence, then you can easily convince anyone that he is a multi-billionaire super-genius and that you should listen to every word that comes out of his hobo-mouth. Just as you can convince folk that the sons and grandsons of billionaires create companies from rags to riches.

We eat the shit, because we want to believe it's caviar! No one would be as evil as that? I wouldn't lie about something as grand as that, so Merkel and her handlers would not lie about the migration being the prelude to civil war or worse, would she?

What should surprise you really when you find out that this specific group instigated WWI, WWII, Bolshevik mayhem, Jewish Holocoust (no matter how you put it - 3 mio. + Jews died as well) - would it be a surprise to find out that they want to destroy the White West as it is? That's nothing - I would not be surprised if they slaughter and ate babies in ceremonies. I am not saying they do, because I have not found definitive proof of that, but I would not be surprised.

So doing the migrant invasion - that is peanuts to them. It is less than if you squash a mosquito.

And yes - the Germans and Europeans are partly responsible for the deception.

As for Waimar Germany - that was a tiny part of the population mostly in Berlin. 90% of Germans were pretty conservative. LA was almost as promiscuous as well in the 1920s-30s. The rest of the US was not.

(08-04-2016 06:32 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Islam can be reformed in the sense that there are Alewites and Ahamadiyya muslims who have actually reformed the religion. Every time some muslims organization in Europe arranges some kind of peace protest it is always the Ahmadiyya.

Obviously, that won't mean a thing since we allow the Saudis and Quatar to spend billions preaching the most radical version of Islam they can find.

You can't support Saudi Arabia politically and then complain about radicalism, this blatant double standard needs to be spelled out.

What if instead you gave the Ahmadiyya some billions instead for propaganda?

I don't know man. Yes - there are peaceful sects you mentioned - Sufis also one of them. Some even claim that Sufism is the first major reform of Islam, but it did not take.

To reform Islam - theoretically it could be reformed, but it would have to be done in a super-aware lucid way and with the full support and backing of the globalists their trillions of money and military support.

Why is Islam so hard to reform?

1. The texts are pretty negative. Mohammed was so far off from saints of his own religion like Rumi, that he might as well have been a Satanist. So a reform would have to acknowledge the negative deeds and MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE that you cannot and MUST NOT TAKE THE TEXTS LITERALLY.

2. Most adhere to the sects they were born into or were conquered by. The shia-sunni seperation is there since almost the beginning and there is no stopping it. Even a unification under one banner like the Ottomans left the various sects intact.

3. The only way in my opinion is possible through massive campaigns and full backing of the MSM, academia, politics, military, secret services, infiltration of the Islamic schools. Then it has a solid chance of reform.

I think if the globalists wanted it then they could topple radical leaders and shift entire countries until every Muslim country resembled a more conservative Christian one from the 1940s:



I see some secular Muslim couples in the West. Just recently met a young couple - both of Muslim heritage living in Vienna. She - a solid 7-8, very cute and slim, 20 years, dressed modern, but modest, no Hijab. He - well dressed, modern hair cut, he was fully into her and you could see that even at the age of 21 - he is willing to marry that girl. So essentially the girl accepted some liberal Western values while considering to settle down early with a man who loves her. While she rejects stifling Islamic rules, she does not become a Western cock-carousel feminist slut.

I am sure that the elite knows that this COULD BE THE RESULT OF ISLAMIC REFORM. That is why a secular semi-liberal Islamic state might behave like a conservative semi-liberal Christian state and both societies COULD POSE SERIOUS OPPOSITION TO GLOBALIST PLANS.

That is why there will be no reforms. The globalists are working 24/7 on the opposite end. Also the texts and the basic doctrine of Islam is not peaceful and it is not very positive for secular enlightened progress.

So essentially the reformers - bless their good heart - are working not only against the stifling tenets of their own religion, but they also have to fight the globalists, their trillion dollar economy and their armies, agents and propaganda. Do they have a chance at success? No way in hell. With full globalist support? Yes, but that is not going to happen.

(08-04-2016 08:55 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Let's face it. Westerners should memorize this phrase:

"La ilaha illallah Muhammad-ur Rasulullah"

Might prevent your throat getting slit.

That's why in Bulgaria nodding the head means no and shaking the head means yes.

It comes from the earlier Jihad when the ministers of the religion of peace asked Bulgarian Christians with a knife to their necks if they would renounce Christ in the name of 'the prophet'.

They nodded their heads to stay alive as shaking their heads would have caused them to 'cut themselves' round the throat.

(08-06-2016 01:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Then you stop asking to find the answers to the questions by Parzival - you simply know.

Those questions are the start for the ordinary people in the Matrix. To mix up their indoctrination. Some will think but then turn away to their normal life. Others will ignore it and just a few dig deeper.
We are pawns at a much bigger game. The ideas of equality and multiculturalism serve a purpose. They call it diversity but at the end they want to destroy homogeneous societies, cultural bounding and values. To create a lost population with no culture, no roots, no history that they can easy control and abuse.

They did always hate and fear Germany. Germany was and is to strong for Europe but to weak to stand alone. Germany is the key to Europe and I'm also sure still many other Europeans will love to see Germany fall. But they will fall too and then Europe is weak for them to abuse. And yes, most people don't stand up, they don't open the eyes, they don't fight. Manipulation can happen to everyone, we all can get tricked but when you absolute deny facts then you are part of it. Part of the matrix. In those times everyone can just take care of his own, make his nice living as best as possible till the big collapse will come. It's a slow change, you still can have your family, your income and be kind of same in Germany and other parts of Europe. But in the long run it goes down. For this we need resistance cells. The invaders will produce nothing, the SJW will not have kids. Its red pill males with families that have to hold on.

(08-06-2016 04:11 AM)Parzival Wrote:  They did always hate and fear Germany. Germany was and is to strong for Europe but to weak to stand alone. Germany is the key to Europe and I'm also sure still many other Europeans will love to see Germany fall. But they will fall too and then Europe is weak for them to abuse. And yes, most people don't stand up, they don't open the eyes, they don't fight. Manipulation can happen to everyone, we all can get tricked but when you absolute deny facts then you are part of it. Part of the matrix. In those times everyone can just take care of his own, make his nice living as best as possible till the big collapse will come. It's a slow change, you still can have your family, your income and be kind of same in Germany and other parts of Europe. But in the long run it goes down. For this we need resistance cells. The invaders will produce nothing, the SJW will not have kids. Its red pill males with families that have to hold on.

While Germany was completely infiltrated as well at the top, the German economy was about to become way too powerful and the people way too efficient and advanced for the liking of the globalist bankers in London.

The majority of Nobel prices before the 1930s came from Germany and the efficiency and creativity of it's people was way too dangerous. WWI did not do the trick, so WWII had to come. And even that was not enough since the majority of the Wirtschaftswunder after WWII was generated by many Nazi investors and entrepreneurs who pulled funds to Switzerland before the war ended. They pulled it back to Germany in the 1950s and created a massive boom, that would have been otherwise impossible. The Marshall plan helped too, but it was mainly this hardly known secret that catapulted Germany forward. It's possible that the globalists exptected to be Germany way more down for longer - potentially even below France's level up until the 1980s.

Obviously even the economic disaster of the German unificiation was not enough to cripple Germany. Currently the German economy - mostly big corporations - are profiting from the EU as they easily massacre the competition in other countries in an unfettered market. Although only part of the population is profiting from it as 50% are either unemployed or live for 1000EUR/month (titled generation 1000 EUR)

Now I guess the elite has decided that it's not enough to carpet-bomb the country, they need to wipe out the population to deal with the people once and for all. The 3 million rapefugees will multiply by 10 within the next 20 years with family reunification and social security financed births. The German people will be at the epicenter of the coming war with a hostile 40%+ Muslim population.

Maybe the big boys count on most being exterminated - dirty bombs and mini-nukes started there before WWIII would do the trick.

It's really funny that the Globalists themselves started their plans likely in Germany - partly imbued with the same efficiency and strive for excellence. So the big irony is that the globalists are now wiping out the people that helped their ancestors rise to power in the first place.

You cant make this up:

Diplomatic Scandal Erupts After Turkey Calls Austria The "Capital Of Radical Racism"

Quote:...Fast forward to today, when Turkish Foreign Minster Mevlut Cavusoglu demonstrated his country's supreme displeasure with Austria stepping out of line, and lashed out calling Austria the "capital of radical racism" in retaliation. This was particularly ironic coming from a nation many have accused of being the source of "radical jihadists" entering Europe.

In an interview with broadcaster TGRT Haber, Cavusoglu said Kern's comments, spurred largely by a crackdown on suspected perpetrators of a failed coup last month, were "ugly" and that he rejected them all.

"The Austrian chancellor should first take a look at his own country. One of the trends that is an enemy of human rights and values is racism and today Austria is the capital of radical racism," he said.

Yes, that was Turkey lecturing a European nation on human rights.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-05...cal-racism

Mandatory painting of the recapture of Budapest from Ottman Empire in 1686 (Hungarians did not forget....)

(08-04-2016 03:54 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  I'm mad at the GERMANS who either passively stand by and let this happen or more likely welcome their own destruction with open arms. And yes, you can argue "muh Jews" and "whites dindu nuffin" but how exactly is this different than blacks arguing "muh whites, muh slavery" "we dindu nuffin?"

This is a false analogy. People who have bad logic are as politically dangerous as the pro-immigration force, because they take unnecessary time and resources to rebut, and they introduce the very noise into the system that you are ironically complaining about the Germans not being able to overcome.

It's a false analogy because, ignoring for a second your introduction of unnecessary racial arguments that are off-topic and likely to offend readers here, minorities with higher degrees of statistical crime do not have the full force of the educational system, the political system, the media, the police, and, if need be, the military as backup to force them to commit crimes.

What you are blaming the Germans for accepting has every one of these institutions reinforcing it, and all of them would need to be overcome. And it isn't an argument that Germans have had any actual control over these institutions since WWII. They have not.

Moreover, your analogy is about 10 years old at this point, on the internet, and has been thoroughly debunked over and over again. It also tends to be the argument of people with a political self-interest for their group to not be blamed. In other words, its an overused misdirection.

The constant victim blaming on in this thread is completely cucked. Completely cucked. It's disturbing, and moreover extremely suspicious to the point that I suspect intentional thread hijacking that is meant to take focus off of the real problems and instead fracture and demonize Europeans at the fundamental level of group nature and legitimacy. You know, the people whom the thread should ostensibly be advocating for. Note the pattern. I am. Anyone in this thread should. It isn't benign. It has a purpose. It's exactly what I would do if I hated Europeans to the point that I wanted them destroyed.

You can't invade a nation and "denazify" (denationalize) them, give one half to Soviet Russia for several decades, and make the entire nation subject to the world's hate for several decades specifically for mounting the objectively best counter-force to globalization that the world has ever known, and then blame them for being completely defanged when the time comes for the world to fight off globalism.

Where was your nation in the decades leading up to this? What are they doing now? Nowhere, and nothing. And they, also, continue to take refugees.

Quote:Even IF Jews are pushing this agenda, WE ARE STILL BUYING IT.

Most people don't know that they are buying anything. Europeans do have a culture problem, and thus a political self-interest problem after 2,000 years of cultural cleansing. That is, they have an issue with seeing themselves as a self-interested group. However, that does not imply a rational conclusion that European people, in spite of the informational and cultural blackout, should magically be able to perceive some type of conspiracy and then, again, magically have the political structural ability to do something about it short of bringing forth the Fourth Reich.

All people act statistically, to include belief adoption, in large groups. This belief adoption occurs from education, both formal and cultural. Europeans are not exempt from this part of human group nature. That you think they should be is not rational.

Quote:If we are truly such a superior race, why is it that we are so easily convinced by "Jewish lies?" I'm sick and tired of this bullshit.

And there are legions of people that are sick and tired of the bullshit of bad political acting and bad logic on the part of nationalists who do not understand their own politics, nor how to effectively implement the politics that they think that they do understand. See the costs in my first paragraph.

To wit, "superiority" is not a starting nor a finishing point for these politics, and it is YOU who is adding this extra context and therefore it is you that is fatally injuring your own argument - and that of EVERYONE else.

It is you, and the tends of thousands like you, that we need to take the time to debate. Your introduction of strawman claims of "superiority" as a functionally weak foundation for these politics always needs to be dismantled because it is politically weak.

And thus it is the people like you who prevent successful political cultural formation because you can't rationally come to your own conclusion on how to implement effective politics instead of hijacking them with your weak "superiority" filter. A political system cannot withstand attacks from within, whether intentional or from a place of incompetence.

The strongest case for indigenous-European self-determination is made from a foundation of the notion that all people have the right to political self-determination and cultural preservation. They have the right to their ancestral lands, free from overwhelming foreign political hostility taking root within those lands. These rights are also variously stated and implied in the UN guidelines against genocide. Period. End of platform. It has nothing to do with politically weak notions of superiority, conclusions for which can be easily manipulated in a hostile media or political discussion at any time. The argument is from one of inarguable, foundational rights that extend to all people. Note how this contrasts with your argument, inherently weak because its foundation only extends to one people: that who are the most "superior".

If you argue from a position of superiority, or even allow it to dominate your internal thoughts, then as we exactly observe here: you argue in a manner that sabotages any fledgling coherent political force for Europeans.

Quote:The reality is that we have *agency* and that native Europeans are pushing for this just as much as Rabbi Goldstein.

"Agency" is strictly an individual concept. To say "we have agency" is an oxymoron.

See my above comments about European cultural cleansing, and the resultant lack of political structure.

Quote:It's time to stop seeking excuses for the behavior of our people, be it "pathological altruism" or "rabbi made me do it."

Well, hop to it. Specifically, what political structure do you propose for Europeans moving forward, and how do you propose to have it implemented? I'm sure that you don't mean for Europeans to suddenly come together in a coherent political framework that falls out of a tree one day.

Quote:It's US. We have serious problems. We are a sick people, and changing the demographics so that we're 97% white again might lower the crime rate, but it won't cure the fact that we are a spiritually dead people.

Suspicious as fuck. As far as I'm concerned, your lack of logic and your self-hate makes it dubious as to whether you are a part of the same "we" that I am at all: politically speaking.

Quote:The "race war" you keep LARPing about isn't going to fix our problems. All that can help us at this point is a complete paradigm shift in our way of thinking - away from the secular, materialistic "don't judge" morality infecting whites across party lines, back to a genuinely religious, tradition-based and uncompromising morality with ZEAL beyond the temporal that can actually take a stand to the Muslims we've been importing en masse into our countries."

Again what system do you recommend? Or is someone else, who is included in your generalized attack, supposed to have the specific solution to your rage? Can you provide the specific solution that you rage at others for not having, or can you not?

(08-06-2016 08:10 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  You can't invade a nation and "denazify" (denationalize) them, give one half to Soviet Russia for several decades, and make the entire nation subject to the world's hate for several decades specifically for mounting the objectively best counter-force to globalization that the world has ever known, and then blame them for being completely defanged when the time comes for the world to fight off globalism.

I never really know what to make of your posts. For example what you're stating above is absolutely spot on but then you go again splitting hairs and challenging people's motivations and even insinuating straw man arguments or malicious intent.

(08-06-2016 08:10 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  To wit, "superiority" is not a starting nor a finishing point for these politics, and it is YOU who is adding this extra context and therefore it is you that is fatally injuring your own argument - and that of EVERYONE else.

It is you, and the tends of thousands like you, that we need to take the time to debate. Your introduction of strawman claims of "superiority" as a functionally weak foundation for these politics always needs to be dismantled because it is politically weak.

I think it's time you take a step back and refocus an obviously high intellect to exploring hands-on solutions. Quite frankly you are seeing a lot of problems where there really are none. The way out of the mess we're finding ourselves in is not endless debate and splitting ourselves into a thousands camps and factions. I saw this quote the other day but I don't know who to attribute it to:

Multiculturalism is not strength. UNITY is strength.

Exactly. You can continue to attack us, question our motivations, our reasoning, our conclusions, etc. - OR you can start contributing in a more productive fashion.

Disclaimer: This is purely my personal opinion and maybe everyone else here just loves to see every single contribution here to be dissected in endless tirades.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  [quote='hydrogonian' pid='1367612' dateline='1470489059']
You can't invade a nation and "denazify" (denationalize) them, give one half to Soviet Russia for several decades, and make the entire nation subject to the world's hate for several decades specifically for mounting the objectively best counter-force to globalization that the world has ever known, and then blame them for being completely defanged when the time comes for the world to fight off globalism.

Quote:I never really know what to make of your posts. For example what you're stating above is absolutely spot on but then you go again splitting hairs and challenging people's motivations and even insinuating straw man arguments or malicious intent.

Be more specific in your rebuttals, that is quote my exact phrasing that I can respond to, or respectfully don't bother. I won't debate non-specifics.

(08-06-2016 08:10 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  To wit, "superiority" is not a starting nor a finishing point for these politics, and it is YOU who is adding this extra context and therefore it is you that is fatally injuring your own argument - and that of EVERYONE else.

It is you, and the tends of thousands like you, that we need to take the time to debate. Your introduction of strawman claims of "superiority" as a functionally weak foundation for these politics always needs to be dismantled because it is politically weak.

Quote:I think it's time you take a step back and refocus an obviously high intellect to exploring hands-on solutions.

I'm responding to specific claims. I never stated that I have a solution. Though, of course, a solutions discussion would be legitimate if probably a little untenable in this specific public forum. Refocusing on me to provide a solution, when I merely am calling out the poster for blaming others for not having one while not having one himself, doesn't make sense.

Though, here's what a framework would need to accomplish, at a bare minimum. Perhaps you can help build one around these requirements:

1. It would have to strongly promote knowledge and wealth transfer only between members of the political group.

2. It would have to promote marriage only between members of the political group.

3. It would have to promote the larger political group, outside of the nuclear family, as part of the extended family.

4. It would have to promote extremely fundamental family values as the foundational stone of the entire political system; without this, there will be no political power.

Without an intact group family culture that extends to the group community, there will be no significant group political power. There will be no group political protection from foreign groups no matter what else is put into place, to include armies. Everything will be temporary at best.

There's a start. unless the above is accomplished, we won't have anything because we will have no power. It follows that any action from any foundation that does not ensure the above, will be blind and temporary at best.

People that can not adjust to the above are those who are legitimately politically flawed, because only the above assures long-term legitimate political power because it assures the closest of interpersonal cooperation inter-generationally.

Inter-personal cooperation, as measured to any degree, is what directly incubates significant political power in any and all groups.

Attacking groups that can, if given the chance, put such a society successfully into action is doing the work of the enemy because it is fractioning that group instead of psychologically building them back-up and encouraging them toward such a system.

As I said, there is your start. Everything else is going in circles in comparison.

Quote:Quite frankly you are seeing a lot of problems where there really are none.

The only problem I see is bad logic, as well as consistent intentional demoralization, that will forever prevent a real solution as well as fracture the group.

Quote:The way out of the mess we're finding ourselves in is not endless debate and splitting ourselves into a thousands camps and factions. I saw this quote the other day but I don't know who to attribute it to:

Multiculturalism is not strength. UNITY is strength.

When the discussion becomes demoralizing, illogical, and unproductive, I call it out. To allow that type of lash-out to occur while admonishing me for debating it is strange in my opinion.

Quote:Exactly. You can continue to attack us, question our motivations, our reasoning, our conclusions, etc. - OR you can start contributing in a more productive fashion.

Who is "us", exactly?

What productive fashion, as opposed to what you are doing, exactly?

Steering the conversation away from self hate and, ironic to your claims, away from fractioning of the group is productive. Attacking Europeans fundamentally, as a people, is NOT productive. If you think that it is then we do actually have two camps here and I won't be taking your advice nor your concern.

Quote:Disclaimer: This is purely my personal opinion and maybe everyone else here just loves to see every single contribution here to be dissected in endless tirades.

So, you want whatever bullshit is thrown on the wall here to go unchallenged? Because, perhaps, it is also your brand of bullshit? This sounds like a weak plea to me, because you want to be able to get away with your particular arguments. All to the detriment of the political situation at hand.

And your hyperbole about "every single contribution here being dissected" is noted, as well as how my responses are "tirades" but how long tirades that blame the European 'other' are not "tirades". Got it.

I won't break down your logic any further, because that would be, I suppose, mean and "splitting hairs". I'll leave you be at this point.

If Europeans were to continue down the type of road that this thread devolves into: self-blaming, appeals to "traditionalism" and natural rights, etc. Then they will fail and be either genocided or absorbed by the hordes. That's a fact.

If it hurts anyone's feelings to point that out when necessary, then I don't feel bad. Its for a greater good.

Also, I prior extended an invitation to pm me for my take on these politics, to imply a framework for a solution, which would have laid the same foundational framework for political power, albeit less abruptly, that I just summarized above in the briefest of formats. You didn't do that. And I would have gladly engaged you, specifically, but also others.

Migrants trying to force their way across from Italy to France.

Quote:Police and migrants clashed near Ventimiglia, northern Italy, Friday, as they occupied the site of Balzi Rossi beach.

Syrian Prof: Arabs Migrate for ‘Sluts’ and Welfare, Attack When They Don’t Get It

Quote:A Syrian professor has asserted that Arab migrants see “slut” German women as fair game for assault and warned that the country is set to see “big social conflicts” as a result of Angela Merkel and EU open border policies.
Prof. Bassam Tibi said that the mass sex attacks in Cologne were a result of the migrants’ “value system”: furious at not being given a luxury lifestyle, they intended to “humiliate” Germans.

The professor, who now lives in Germany, said that Arab men come expecting “great apartments, blonde women and the welfare state”.

The political scientist noted that tax payers are providing migrants with far more than they could expect even with wages in their homelands, but warned they find the hospitality “insufficient”.

Pointing out that two-bedroom apartments are a luxury in Cairo, the professor noted that he knows 16-year-old migrants, each with two-bedroom apartments to themselves at the expense of German tax payers. These boys remain dissatisfied however, as they had hoped for cars too.

Interviewed by Basler Zeitung, Professor Tibi said that migrants were expecting to be given a luxury lifestyle, one comparable to portrayals of rich Europeans shown in the Arab media. He predicted that migrant disappointment with their standard of living is likely to cause the country problems in the future.

“Think even of the grateful Syrians who took the famous selfies with Merkel. [One of them] was on TV a few weeks ago and declared that he was now very disappointed with her. He wants a job, a secure income and an apartment. We will see big social conflicts,” the professor warned.

Asked how he could be sure of this, Professor Tibi stated that as well as the fact the state cannot meet their high expectations, the migrants have a “value system that is incompatible with modernity”.

The professor revealed that Arabs believe themselves to be honourable and that Germans are not, as German women are allowed to “sleep with everyone”.

Professor Tibi pointed to a number of factors that he believes led to the mass sex attacks in Cologne. He said migrants knew their behaviour was criminal but that they think “German women are sluts”, and felt they would face no punishment.

The decorated academic said that police’s “fear of the racist accusation” is greater than their fear of the decline of public order. This, he contends, leads migrants to view German police as “wimps”.

Professor Tibi argued that sexual assaults on German women are driven by vengeance for not being given nice cars and flats. He also pointed to Syrian culture as playing a part.

The “Islamology” founder disclosed: “Rape of women is a weapon of war in Syria. All warring parties do that. The refugees who come here, come from this culture and not all are victims.

“If such men do not get what they expect, they are angry. In the culture I come from, you want to humiliate people who make a mad.

“In the Orient, to humiliate a man, one rapes his wife. My guess is that these young Muslim men wanted in Cologne to humiliate the women, and behind this humiliation is the humiliation of the German man. The woman is an instrument for it.”

(08-06-2016 09:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  The “Islamology” founder disclosed: “Rape of women is a weapon of war in Syria. All warring parties do that. The refugees who come here, come from this culture and not all are victims.

“If such men do not get what they expect, they are angry. In the culture I come from, you want to humiliate people who make a mad.

“In the Orient, to humiliate a man, one rapes his wife. My guess is that these young Muslim men wanted in Cologne to humiliate the women, and behind this humiliation is the humiliation of the German man. The woman is an instrument for it.”

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This is how most medieval societies viewed war and conflict. Rape was a tool to humiliate, a prize for conquest, as well as a way to spread your progeny from the womb of the enemy's family members.

We all know by now that most arab muslim cultures are not developed past this. Even the supposed "advanced" gulf arabs still have this arrogant mindset even when gifted with vast natural resources and all the luxuries money can buy.

They are a defective and backwards culture that's been given way too much leniency in this world. Europeans are bending over backwards to appease a culture and people that literally wants to destroy them and replace it with something vile and destructive. This is why i'm opposed to these refugees. I technically have no horse in this race at all since i'm not european or even of european descent. However, I recognize that the proliferation of arab AND muslim culture would be a huge blow to humanity in general. It really can't happen.

(08-06-2016 11:36 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

Hehe - you got the title wrong - the guardian shall correct you:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a...rs-machete

Quote:Assailant dies after machete attack

Another refugee died in Belgium. All he did was shout "Allah Akbar" & attack 2 police sluts with a machete. Racists!




The headline should be - ASYLUM SEEKER SHOT DEAD BY BELGIAN TRIGGER-HAPPY COPS

Also - keep in mind that the attacker was shot by a third officer - most likely a man. So he attacked the women successfully, then he is killed by a man. Yes - the patriarchy always has to mop up after women prefer to let their feelings talk. They are oh so equal to a man as a police officer.

But Hollywood has taught us that they are equal to a man - and even superior:

(08-06-2016 12:35 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 11:36 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

Hehe - you got the title wrong - the guardian shall correct you:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a...rs-machete

Quote:Assailant dies after machete attack

The BBC is doing it again -





The poor attacker was killed! Oh no! The injuries were not life threatening - why did they kill this poor man! All he did was attack cops with a machete while shouting Allahu Akbar. This racist behavior is unforgivable

Stop being racist Zel, he was just trying to enrich the officer's lives.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I never really know what to make of your posts.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Are you guys going to have my back when I am out there facing down a gang of Maghrebis who are, right now as I'm typing this, trying to take over my neighborhood? Their presence has increased exponentially in the past year and I now see them everywhere.

What if I'm being doxed or have to deal with a hostile court system that intends to make an example of a 'right wing extremist'? You guys are going to chip in with my legal fund?

Are any of you willing to step outside of your comfort zone to support and aid others? Here we are on a forum for 'neo-masculinity' and we can't even meet in public for fear of a few feminazis and their beta orbiting white knights?

Sorry if I don't hedge hopes about any tangible support from anyone living anywhere East of the Danube. Jeez, I can't even express myself freely here, on what is supposed to be one of the last vestiges of free speech on the Internet, for fear of getting banned when ruffling a few feathers. Look at my rating - it's actually DROPPING despite having spent hundreds of hours sharing information, advice, and analysis. I frankly don't give a shit but it shows that my time spent here is probably tantamount to pissing in the wind. If I quit participating or get banned it won't make a ANY difference whatsoever. My life won't change, yours won't, the future that is slowly but invariably unfolding most definitely won't change.
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Frankly I'm sick and tired of engaging in intellectual discourse or debating the finer points of whatever pet peeve anyone may have about the exact steps necessary to take our countries back or why some of my assumptions/projections may be slightly flawed. The Titanic is literally sinking and we are busy re-arranging the deckchairs. And nobody apparently gives a shit. You may claim you do but when push comes to shove I already know I'm going to be on my own.

I already can see the invariable responses: 'Man, you're too pessimistic.' - 'You're overreacting' - 'Dude, are you having a bad day?' - 'Defeatist' - etc...

My response: Ooops - my bad for serving up a much needed helping of cold reality. I should have made you feel special because you're posting on rooshforum and thus you must be a jacked millionaire man of mystery. Sorry for not telling you what you want to hear, I won't bother going forward.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Quite frankly you are seeing a lot of problems where there really are none. The way out of the mess we're finding ourselves in is not endless debate and splitting ourselves into a thousands camps and factions. I saw this quote the other day but I don't know who to attribute it to:

Multiculturalism is not strength. UNITY is strength.

Exactly. You can continue to attack us, question our motivations, our reasoning, our conclusions, etc. - OR you can start contributing in a more productive fashion.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The nutshell version: The migration crisis has been a shit test of massive proportions. And WE men failed it miserably. There's a reason this was caused by a female German chancellor, and the fact that she's a Marxist globalist is only part of the bigger picture.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  It never fails, does it? And that after thousands of violent attacks and rapes of native women and children. If you think the women in your country suck, think again. German women are despicable, corruptible, and heartless creatures. Most of them crave 'exotic' dick and don't give a rat's ass about the future of their children or that of their motherland. Fuck 'em - fuck 'em all. They deserve what they have coming.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I maintain that the Germans tend to swing to from one extreme to the other.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The Germans unfortunately have a history of being easily steered into one direction. I've said this here before and I'll say again - the Germans are like locust. On each own they're harmless and rather pleasant. But once they start swarming it usually ends up badly for everyone.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Disclaimer: This is purely my personal opinion and maybe everyone else here just loves to see every single contribution here to be dissected in endless tirades.

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  P.S.: My little tirade was actually not directed at Leonard who seems to be one of the few hands-on guys I come across here. My deepest respects also to Parzival who, despite his handicap of being born in Germany, has been exemplary and might just make it through this. Samseau - suffice to say you're the man. I hope to get to meet you guys one day and exchange war stories.

and

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  There it is right in front of our noses - the population replacement (Volksaustausch). The result of decades of creeping influx of Muslims. We are now hitting the acceleration phase of this exponential growth curve. At the same time we will witness the inverse - an exponential decay in productivity and industrial output. That is the part I am going to enjoy watching [from afar].

(08-06-2016 08:25 AM)redpillage Wrote:  We have to start fighting fire with fire. Instead of fighting Muslims men in the streets, let's instead procreate with hot Eastern European, Asian, and SA women. Hey they want us to breed and procreate to prop up those failing Western economies?

I had to come back to show you your own quotes, in an effort to put this to rest so that it doesn't keep popping up with ever-increasing concern trolling.

You're all over the place:

in your approach to how you feel about the forum's reactions to your own opinions, and your ethic in doing what you need to do to help Europe by making your opinion known, and in contrast your massive balls, considering, in your attempt to admonish and concern troll me for doing the same. Righteous defiance for you, 'get with the program' for me.

You're all over the place:

in your disunifying expressions over the character of Germans, and in contrast your concerned correction of what you see as my disunity in political opinion on this board. "Unity is Strength" you said. Right? Even though I was correcting what I feel to be disunifying behavior (and a flawed political approach).

In general:

You're approach is that you will do what you need to do, as you see fit an perhaps on your own when it comes to your own views, but when it comes to the views of someone who takes offense at a disunifying sentiments toward the Germans then I'm being "multiculturalist" and I need to get with the program and need to "start contributing in a more productive fashion".

Here's the difference between you and me, having obviously gone over your recent posts:

You're ready to go to war. I get that. Europe needs righteous anger. It'll also need soldiers. You're chomping at the bit. It'll be either you with your fellow righteous warriors or you by yourself. Either way. You're just trying to get everyone on board. Death to traitors and cowards. Fine. As I said, it's needed to the degree that it doesn't backfire in some way. Which it can when political discussions are being had about the long-term future. But don't let it be said that I don't appreciate your general feeling and ethic, insofar as you don't do anything insane in the mean-time that would make any expressed support of your general ethic a liability. I know that you aren't suggesting that, but I do say this because your anger is palpable. And that's okay. It's not a flaw. Don't take that observation as criticism. Mine probably is as well, to a degree. We're all upset to varying degrees, as is natural.

Here's what I do: I argue over the frameworks that are needed for our long-term success. I'm fairly confident as to what is a trap, what is outright faulty, and what would work. This type of conversation makes it so that, if not this time but in the distant future, you or people like you don't actually have to fight. And I hold the same ethic here that you avowed in saying what needs to be said in spite of detractors.

Both discussions are important. But stay out of my discussions if you're going to be ethically and politically inconsistently 'concerned' as far as your posts and my posts go. Insofar as you can "contribute productively", then welcome aboard.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...-mehr.html

Quote:Tübingen green Mayor Palmer advocates to suspend the right of asylum if refugees become criminal . Syrians could easily be deported in their home, according to him.

Palmer said in an interview on the question whether a deportation to Syria is not dangerous: "There are also areas in Syria that are not at war. How do I explain the family of a victim that the offender is still in the country, although he was so aggressive? Because the answer 'In Syria it is unsafe' isunsatisfactory."

He reiterated that acts of Munich, Reutlingen, Würzburg and Ansbach stood in connection with the refugees. "We know that three of the four perpetrators had not be in the country two years ago. Who is not there to ponder?" He said. This one should not simply ignore and dismiss as quite populist.

They are still out there, the critical voices. Just the agenda keep on moving like a night train.

Cotdamn, hydrogonian is my new favorite poster. Would rep x10 if possible.

(08-06-2016 09:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Migrants trying to force their way across from Italy to France.

Quote:Police and migrants clashed near Ventimiglia, northern Italy, Friday, as they occupied the site of Balzi Rossi beach.

They call us the smart phone generation. I think it should be the feelings generation. We've seen millions of these people enter Europe and claim it as their own and then we see more people turning up later to the party expecting to get in and when the bouncers don't cooperate they throw hissy fits.

When limousine liberals and their SJW allies hear or see something which upsets their delicate feelings they become enraged and demand their own brand of justice. Calling for death or injury in many cases.

A smart phone is just a tool.

Feelings matter. Your opinion is irrelevant.

There's been several attempts at citizen vigilante groups in Europe that I know of, they've all failed. The reason for that in my opinion is that they lack the proper context, they lack mass appeal and cultural context. This corner of the internet is not a skinhead club, it's a culture war club and the equivalent of a Vienna coffee house or German beer hall. This is where ideas are tested and rebuked, ideology refined, facts proven or disproven. Marxism did not originate in the gutters of the proletariat, nor did the Nazis rise from gangs of thugs. There's this idea that only action matters, but behind every revolution are talking heads wasting time formulating thesis and ideology. This can't and should not be discounted. From these online Munich beer halls rise stringent thought and ideology which is picked up by the thousand of lurkers and propagated. I've seen one very comitted online troll spreading our knowledge and linking here across dozens of platforms. From that troll thousands of people will read this for the first time.

That said, naturally I'd help all of you out if I knew you were in need and I could help. I just can't do much for a brother in a different country, but of course I'd be willing and able to help out if push comes to shove. Absolutely.

Found this gem on the_donald:

Seems like the Turkey deal is "working". And it also seems that the EU has started implementing US strategy of importing rapefugees by night far away from cameras and completely unreported:



http://austria-netz.de/koeln-bonner-flug...bei-nacht/

Quote:Night after night, every 3-5 minutes from about 1am quietly thousands of migrants in Cologne Bonn Airport

In the report someone makes the claim that Cologne has thousands of refugees arriving starting from 01:00 am, when there are no longer any commercial flights.

Then the masses are distributed at night all around Germany.

Probably other airports are receiving this enrichment as well each day.

Haha - the guys are really doing it and find creative ways of implementation. In the US they use NGOs and don't even tell the local mayors when they have dumped 10.000 Muslims onto their diversity-lacking cities and small towns.

The politicians can even claim that they cannot stop it, because in reality they can't. So who do you really think can orchastrate such plans that work in unison on all political levels, NGOs, thinktanks, UN-organizations, media and academia? Who has the power to implement a similar strategy almost all across the world?

Yeah - it's Merkel. I see the Muslim population exploding in all Western countries even without armies of aggressive demanding men crossing the borders like barbarian hordes.

The EU has done a great job at diverting the attention of voters.

Meanwhile the subsaharan front of enrichment:

http://newobserveronline.com/nonwhite-in...-unabated/

Quote:Nonwhite Invasion of Europe Unabated

AUGUST 6, 2016 BY TNO STAFF— IN EUROPE · 11 COMMENTS
The nonwhite invasion of Europe has continued unabated this year, and the first six months has already seen over 230,000 Third Worlders cross the Mediterranean Sea—more than last year at this time.

This figure is also more than the total number of nonwhites who invaded Europe in all of 2014.

So 500.000-1.000.000 from subsaharan Africa and 1-2 mio. from Muslim countries - all willing to enrich Europe. Of course there are no jobs for them, so they will either be on the dole or resort to crime in addition to bringing their own problems and conflicts.

And you are talking about resisting this? How? Even if 60% of Germans vote for AFD and they actually make steps towards stopping this madness (something which I doubt). Then their bosses will simply shift the strategy.
Resisting violently? You would have to know who is really in charge in our world - attacking cops or politicians won't change a thing - they will just use that to quicken the descent into a surveillance state (nevermind that cops are just following orders while gritting their teeth and politicians are just out to make a quick buck to avoid the teeming diversity at the bottom).

Trump won't make a meaningful difference, not AFD in Germany, not BREXIT and certainly not the Austrian FPO. Yeah - they are all better than nothing, because a strong limitation of the globalist plans will help, but the agenda will continue just with slightly decreased numbers.

Until suddenly in 20 years you realize that the politicians and media in Denmark, Finland and Australia told that they stopped immigration, but strangely the number of Hijabi girls have exploded and terrorist attacks are happening hourly. How can this happen?

It happens because they want it to happen. It happens because it is part of the agenda.

Also another reason why it happens:


Polygamy is illegal unless you are Muslim, then the magnanimous EU makes concessions and gives you 1-2 council houses for you, your 4 wives and 14 children.

Guys - really - learn Chinese and Japanese. If you prefer white women, then take them along with you. Long-term the West is facing one big shitstorm.

(08-06-2016 06:51 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  There's been several attempts at citizen vigilante groups in Europe that I know of, they've all failed. The reason for that in my opinion is that they lack the proper context, they lack mass appeal and cultural context. This corner of the internet is not a skinhead club, it's a culture war club and the equivalent of a Vienna coffee house or German beer hall. This is where ideas are tested and rebuked, ideology refined, facts proven or disproven. Marxism did not originate in the gutters of the proletariat, nor did the Nazis rise from gangs of thugs. There's this idea that only action matters, but behind every revolution are talking heads wasting time formulating thesis and ideology. This can't and should not be discounted. From these online Munich beer halls rise stringent thought and ideology which is picked up by the thousand of lurkers and propagated. I've seen one very comitted online troll spreading our knowledge and linking here across dozens of platforms. From that troll thousands of people will read this for the first time.

That said, naturally I'd help all of you out if I knew you were in need and I could help. I just can't do much for a brother in a different country, but of course I'd be willing and able to help out if push comes to shove. Absolutely.

The best you can do at this stage of the game is to reach out to a few local (and trusted) friends and organize into small training groups. General focus should be hand to hand combat against single and multiple opponents, semi legal weapons training (e.g. stick, knife, improvised), ground fighting, rapid submission and immobilization of assailants, stress control, how to tie basic knots, CPR, etc.

There obviously is a lot that's missing here, e.g. basic military tactics, how to move/operate in formation, regular weapons training (illegal in most of Europe), etc. - most of which would get you in a boatload of trouble rather quickly. But basic training lays the seeds for more advanced stuff later down the line.

(08-06-2016 04:12 PM)Requiem Wrote:  Cotdamn, hydrogonian is my new favorite poster. Would rep x10 if possible.

While hydrogonian spent his day sifting through my past posts, carefully analyzing every nuance in exhausting detail I did this:

• Hit the gym hard.
• Then hit some poon half my age.
• Trained my crew of local guys in H2H combat.
• Worked on my business.
  

Feeling pretty good about myself - productive weekend. NO, I didn't have any desire to read his stuff. Frankly I've got better things to do. Peace out.