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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
Civil War is some time off.

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(11-02-2015 02:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I wonder how Europeans interpret that cross with the circle on those soccer scarves ?

White pride and nationalism (in the good way) or in the American way "white pride".

I interpret it as making a fairly clear stand along the lines of classic skinhead culture, which I don't know much about nor care much about.

The reason it has these connotations is because there was until recently no real need to identify under crude symbolism for European descent whites.

Up until the 1960s, the flags of Europe and the US were taken to be representatives of their people, which were predominantly white Europeans.

Because these flags were so obviously ethnic European, the divide was between far smaller ethnic groups.

Under this situation, only the poorest and most exposed European whites first felt multi-culturalism, in the US and UK. That was the skinhead movement born out of economic recession.

For that reason those symbols have come to represent, at least to me, a certain low brow, hooliganism of white nationalism and I don't really identify much with the lowest rungs of European society.

That leads me to something else. How intrinsically European symbols have become realistically taboo in this 'new world order' and that angers me quite a lot.

I have a great interest in European and particularly Northern European pre-christian mythology and for that reason there are countless of great symbols such as Runes which I'd like to sport in the same way a Christian wears a cross (or even just culturally in the US) or a jew wears a hat or a Maori gets a tribal tattoo.

If I were to get a pagan tattoo of some of the more interesting runes, chances are that antifa types might attack me, because they have long lists of symbols and runes on their websites (go google it), which they claim are neo-nazi, which is an absurd claim since they are a thousand years old.

This I consider a direct theft of my right to express my heritage like any other culture, similar to how the Japanese are not allowed to fly their Rising Sun flag or if a Sikh was not allowed to wear a knife and turban, a muslim not allowed to wear their traditional garb at times and so on.
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RE: Migrant invasion of Europe
I find those clothes by Surge Polonia quite good, without going into Nazi symbolism:

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Of course if you wear anything nationalistic in certain areas in Germany, Sweden or France, then you are going to be attacked quickly.
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I see nothing wrong with those at all.

In fact I love a skateboard company that uses a very large Cross Pattee most people think it's the iron cross of course.

I have many of their shirts with these logos on them.

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I find it sad a person can't be proud of their heritage and symbols without it being bashed on by others.

Nationalism is racism now - whatever happened to being proud of where you're from ? I hate this politically incorrect bullshit.

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Whats to prepare?

1: No guns, unless you want to go to some shady areas in large cities. Even then you're not likely to get a gun unless you know a farmer

2:Stockpiling food, water, medication and other supplies

For me to do these things there needs to be a sign of rapid disintegration of social & economic cohesion. Whilst my kitchen is stocked with a lot of tins and long-life foodstuffs, I am not yet in the mindset of digging a foxhole to wait and see.

3: Following a high-intensity fitness plan

Already go to the gym 4 times a week and I tend to focus on stamina and strength. Having a body with excess muscle will be the death of you in dire situations. All that muscle will eat up your supplies.

There is a reason the military build core strength, stamina and mobility. Lugging an additional 20lbs of muscle is stupid.

4: Studying military tactics, first aid and basic survival 101

I have the art of war, my own imagination and years and years of violent games and movies Laugh

I know first aid and basic survival is an ongoing interest.


5: Networking with like-minded men, training with them outdoors and creating contingency plans

Yeah...no. If and when shit hits the fan in the United Kingdom I would think there is no hope.

We're soft, easy to please and slow to anger en masse. Now don't mistake this for being a pussy, far from it. A lot of men would love a fight if it involves fighting for your life, country and loved ones.

The problem begins in finding a group of men to trust in daily life but can come together. I want a professional career, one which is on par with a Doctor and lawyer. If I were to be found out by the official body of this profession I could be blacklisted and my life ruined even before the hordes cause havoc.

By then I could be a shadow of myself and couldn't give a fuck. The guts and glory guys are either clear cut gents or fucking nuts with anger issues.

I'll say this, we are keen observers of Europe on our Island but if things go down in the mainland we might panic and lose our position. Thank god for the sea.
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One significant difference I notice between Americans and other Westerners is how Americans are obsessed with preparation. I once took my former Peruvian girlfriend to an outdoor concert and she lost it laughing. She looked at the sea of people breaking their backs carrying tents, coolers, chairs, food, beer, playpens and children's toys, cameras and other assorted shit. The same event just about anywhere else in the world would of been people carrying a towel and a bottle of wine. She says "you Americans always over-prepare for everything!". I laughed, and said "yeah I guess I never noticed before. But, thats probably why we're the world's leading superpower."

Just look at all the militias and preppers across America. If this Muslim bullshit ends up over here (it already has to a degree, but its a small trickle and hasn't had a significant impact on national crime or the economy), it'll be full out war overnight. Imagine the reaction to raped daughters, trash filled cities and grocery store looting in places like Utah, Texas or New Hampshire?

I just hope the national opinion stays the same as it did here http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland...-shooting/ Dead Muslim Extremists = Applause, heroes and high-fives.
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(11-02-2015 05:29 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Just look at all the militias and preppers across America. If this Muslim bullshit ends up over here (it already has to a degree, but its a small trickle and hasn't had a significant impact on national crime or the economy), it'll be full out war overnight.

That shit'll never happen, 9/11 put anything like that in check. Anything else gets called out immediately. Americans like me won't let them shit happen, and I come from that heritage, I'll be the first to fight back, because that's an insult to me personally.

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(11-02-2015 03:19 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Moving to Poland lol

Honestly though like whats the point, I live in the UK right now and I unfortunately have to travel to major capitals in other parts of western europe for work occasionally. I see first hand what this cultural enrichment has brought us, and nothing is going to reverse it, even if the EU started slowly deporting these guys the number coming in will still be > the number going out.

Western Europe is forever tainted, the true solution is to move to Eastern Europe and defend from there. I had a conversation with my friend regarding the syrians in a whatsapp group recently, I linked some image of immigrants saying they would behead us if they had the chance or something this is the exact conversation (hes a born and bred brit btw):

Friend: You're literally a racist facebook page
Me: im racist whats new
Me: fuck the invaders
Friend: Ur an invader mate - (I'm from another EU country but born British)
Me: not from the middle east so im a peaceful invader
Friend: Ur outta control man, dunno how you think its acceptable to spout racist shit forwarding stupid images like that which is probably fake anyway - LOL
Me: im just concerned about the survival of european culture
Friend: One thing is joking about it but you're actually like hate mongering
Me: its ok when they do it to us though right? its not ok cause im white right?
Friend: Classic justification of a racist
Me: but you dont rebut it
Friend: Just pack it in i don't wanna read it from you
Me: ok
Friend: Its funny if you joke about it but i don't actually like reading about it, they are people still
Me: ok - (gave up obviously, I know its pointless to argue especially since he's not gonna back down with an audience, it's a whatsapp group afterall)

So there you go, me a EU migrant has more British pride than a born and bred brit, and this is who I'm defending? This is who I'm fighting for? If that's the kind of attitude the locals give me then Ill take my pride else where, maybe a place where they proudly make giant anti immigration banners at football matches.

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(11-02-2015 02:47 PM)RIslander Wrote:  A question to European RVF Members:

What are you doing to prepare for this?

Earlier last year when the Charlie thing was going on in France, I started this thread asking for how to protect my ass if anarchy comes. Great read with some really funny Little Dark style posts Laugh /thread-44052.html

At the time people were like yeah shit was breaking out but then everything went back to normal. Funny how quick they forget those trangressions.

I live in Paris so it's a tricky situation. On one hand if anything's going to happen, it's gonna happen here. On the other hand, this place is well patrolled. Military police with riot gears are being seen more regularly lately.

I'm an active martial artist but that will be of little help when things break out. What I can easily do however is purchase a good set of katana for personal use/decoration purposes (no one minds an Asian with a katana), or some good fireaxe. For provisions I live on a rice diet and that thing stores for a long ass time so it's fine.

Frankly if shit do break out our main concern is not gonna be how to survive the apocalypse because we won't. It's gonna be how to get out of there fast. Securing a fast escape line out of Europe during time of crisis gonna be really tricky if they start locking everything down.

Also should we need to start withdrawing cash from our accounts? I reckon if anarchy comes your credit card will be useless.

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(11-02-2015 05:40 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Also should we need to start withdrawing cash from our accounts? I reckon if anarchy comes your credit card will be useless.

Why would cash necessarily be worth anything.

Whatever's going to be in short supply will be worth something - like booze, guns, and ammunition.
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http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article14...gnete.html

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Journalist writes about his first real encounter with refugees in Hamburg. That it had been a shock how many of them its actually.
I mention it before, send those refugees not in the villages, send them in the areas where the journalist live, where the multi culti agenda people live.
Its easy to call 100 inhabitants of a village racist when you send them 1000 refugees. Its an other thing when you also have to see them in your own neighbourhood.

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I don't see how Paris, a major Western Europe metropolitan city should be seen as normal when you need riot police, armed police and military patrolling the streets.

Its like a creeping death and when you look back a few years you're surprised to see the differences.
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(11-02-2015 05:22 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I find those clothes by Surge Polonia quite good, without going into Nazi symbolism:

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Not a drop of Polish in me(I would be confused for a migrant in poland truth be told), but man, i'd wear that shirt. It looks badass.
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http://iss2015.eu/

Quote:Vom 16. bis 18. Oktober 2015 findet die 2. Internationale Schlepper- und Schleusertagung (ISS) in der Kongresshalle der Münchner Kammerspiele zeitgleich mit dem Open Border Kongress (Munich Welcome Theatre) statt. Die ISS 2015 präsentiert sich erneut als DIE relevante Fachtagung der weltweit agierenden Fluchthilfe-Unternehmen. Wichtigstes Tagungsziel 2015 ist die Image-Aufwertung sowie die damit einhergehende Neubewertung der Dienstleistungen Schleppen und Schleusen.

This is a conference, supported with EU money, how to increase help for escape. How to get illegal into an other country and so on. Some of the people that speak at the conference work for the government. They create apps for smartphones that help those refugees to arrive in the EU.

Here is a brilliant analysis how this, its all in German. He explain how the EU support how to bring people to Germany that actually not legal refugees.




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Nice shirts Zel. I needed something new for the gym.

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(11-02-2015 05:29 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Just look at all the militias and preppers across America. If this Muslim bullshit ends up over here (it already has to a degree, but its a small trickle and hasn't had a significant impact on national crime or the economy), it'll be full out war overnight. Imagine the reaction to raped daughters, trash filled cities and grocery store looting in places like Utah, Texas or New Hampshire?

This has already happened many places in the US without any action.
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Just published, a book on "migrants" seems worth reading... even though it has been written by a leftist, a former SJW! It's "Africanistan" from Serge Michailof.

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The book is interesting, because its author used to be a SJW Dodgy , and still professes to be (kind of), but, confronted by the urgency and scope of the danger of these uncontrolled migrations, he felt compelled to write a book, to warn Europeans.

So, in his book, he warns that "Syrian crisis is nothing compared to African migrations"! He tells of 200 millions of sub-saharan migrants who will, in all likelihood, try to come to Western Europe these next ten or twenty years...

Even an ultra-leftist MSM like "le nouvel obs" has written about his book... it means, even hard-core leftists start panicking about African migrations... Exclamation

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/201...sahel.html

"La Syrie et l'Irak sont de petits pays en termes de population dont les habitants ne parlent pas français. Dans 20 ans, si le cœur du Sahel francophone n'a pas trouvé la voie d'un développement inclusif qui crée des emplois à la hauteur des besoins, nous risquons d'être confrontés à l'implosion sécuritaire d'une région regroupant, au bas mot, 200 millions d'habitants. Beaucoup se retrouveront dans les villes de la côte africaine et au Maghreb. Et ceux qui n'y trouveront pas d'emplois prendront naturellement le chemin de la France"

And btw, remember: ex-French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, talked of 600 millions of young jobless sub-saharans ready to cross the Mediterranean sea towards Europe...!

We are so fucked... only military action can save us. We need the army to protect the European borders, with live ammunition.
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(11-02-2015 06:55 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  This has already happened many places in the US without any action.

True, but not to the extent as in Europe. Also, the law is not giving them the 'halal-pass' that Europe does. They're being publicly recognized as rapists and Muslims.

http://www.providencejournal.com/article.../151009567

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(11-02-2015 06:55 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(11-02-2015 05:29 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Just look at all the militias and preppers across America. If this Muslim bullshit ends up over here (it already has to a degree, but its a small trickle and hasn't had a significant impact on national crime or the economy), it'll be full out war overnight. Imagine the reaction to raped daughters, trash filled cities and grocery store looting in places like Utah, Texas or New Hampshire?

This has already happened many places in the US without any action.

You beat me to it. There is an urban and rural polarization in the US, in 2nd tier cities the hippies move into the urban areas and the conservatives move to the countryside/suburbs/small towns.

If there is some sort of civil strife in the US that is where the lines will be drawn, Urban areas will become "no go" apocalypse zones and semi-rural areas that surround them will become highly xenophobic and insular.

In that event, I would wager that the violent conflicts will be between the semi rural residents and SJW/Hippies being driven out of the cities by poor people with much better urban survival skills and fewer moral qualms.

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(11-02-2015 05:40 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Also should we need to start withdrawing cash from our accounts? I reckon if anarchy comes your credit card will be useless.

If anarchy comes or even looms, first thing to become useless, will be the Euro.

So, buy dollars (or yens, CHF, etc). Especially, if a serious, determined Republican gets elected in the States. Myself, if Trump wins, I will quickly change all my money into USD.

Or do what Asians have been doing for centuries and centuries: buy and store gold.

Also, having some (legal) weapons at home is a must. In France, you can legally own a crossbow and sword, for example.

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The problem with that scenario is that cities produce very little. NYC is probably one of the best examples from my experience. People in upstate NY would get on just fine, they really are no different that people in small town southern states.

I'm not just talking food either. Most industrial parkways and factories are situated in the suburbs, exburbs, and rural and county areas. Just down the road from my parents house in a small suburb in a small town in the south is an industrial parkway with probably two dozen factories. Those bomb disposal robots used to be made at one of the factories, now I think that place does something with plastics. We also had a distribution facility for a huge grocery chain, where basically all the food got shipped there and then repackaged and shipped to the grocery store.

Now that place has been turned into a 3m factory and is doing something with plastics.

If American cities, both large and second and third tier, became no-go zones then we could basically starve them out.

Women these days think they can shop for a man like they shop for a purse or a pair of shoes. Sorry ladies. It doesn't work that way.

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If you buy gold, it's important to get it in small bits that can easily be traded. A gold ingot is useless.

Beyond that I doubt it would get that bad. We'd see citizens defending their towns before that happened.
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Haha. You Europeans think your cash will be junk if you have to fight.

It'll be fine and your ATM cards will work 10 miles away from where you are trying to wrangle up some soulmates.

I said earlier about the boats etc.. Get to the source. If you can't do it cause too beta then pay us and hire a privateer type deal.

I'll explain a little.. Smuggling is VERY profitable and has been unchecked even I saw all the rafts came from the same place. It was all done by a small team of people.

You want them gone? Pay up!! Even the Somalis can take ships down with small skiffs and all of Europe can't stop overloaded cheap inflatable boats huh?
11-02-2015 07:51 PM
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yup. Weapons are a definite must in my opinion. Even if like me, you don't have the cash right now then something like a heavy duty Maglite or crowbar is better than nothing.

A lot of preppers talk about stockpiling silver. I can see the benefit of it in a long drawn out situation, like in the television show Jericho where a small town is basically cut off from the world after the US is nuked. In one or two episodes, it's been awhile since I watched it, they go to an area that has been set up for trading between people from various small towns.

However, there are a lot of things that will have value in a short or medium term situation. Medical supplies would be big on my list. Everything from band aids, to antibiotics and everything in between. One thing most people don't realize is that veterinary anti-biotics and meds are basically the same as human ones. They are easier to get and there are tables online which help to translate the doses between animals and humans. My dog recently had surgery and even the pain pills were the same as human ones with just the name changed a bit.

A few of you seem un interested in stock piling food, but how much do you currently have? If there was a large scale riot tomorrow that lasted weeks or a month, would you have enough food and potable water?

You don't have to go out and spend a paycheck on MREs. Simply buy a bit more than normal. Clean out a closet or pantry and dedicate it to a small survival stash.

Get a couple cheap flashlights (like those LED ones the size of a shotgun shell that cost like three bucks here in the us), some extra batteries, some tea candles (I can buy a box of them at Walmart for like 2 dollars for 8 or 10 or something), a couple packs of cheapo bic lighters, a couple bottles of rubbing alchohol and bandages, and some sort of cheap food.

I don't know what the prices are in Europe but here in America you could put together a small stash that would let you survive many moderate crisis for a week or two without too much of a problem for less than 50 bucks. If you want to go bigger, then just do it gradually. Ten packs of ramen noodles and a jug of water each time you go shopping isn't going to break the bank.

Women these days think they can shop for a man like they shop for a purse or a pair of shoes. Sorry ladies. It doesn't work that way.

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(11-01-2015 04:07 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Swiss Member of Parliament Warns of Islamic Invasion





Perfect for my 1000th post, I have not planned this way but...


Damn, that guy is badass. Who is he and how much power does he have?


Record 218,000 people crossed Mediterranean in October, UN says

Quote:More than 218,000 people made the perilous journey across the Mediterranean to Europe in October – a monthly record and nearly the same number as in the whole of last year, according to the UN.

>>Read: Bodies of 11 refugees, most of them infants, recovered off Greece

Last month, 218,394 people crossed the sea – all but 8,000 of them landing in Greece – compared with 219,000 arrivals during all of last year, UN figures showed.

The soaring numbers of arrivals last month brought to more than 744,000 the number of people who have made the journey so far this year.

The October figures show that despite the increasingly harrowing conditions at sea at the onset of winter, refugees from Syria and other trouble spots continue to pile into boats heading west amid fears that Europe is poised to close its borders.

>>Read: 'Fences won't put anyone off': migrants dismiss new Calais security crackdown

Among the more than 600,000 migrants and refugees who have crossed to Greece this year, 94% came from the world’s top 10 refugee-producing countries.

The ballooning number of crossings has had dire consequences, with the numbers of deaths rising daily.

About 3,440 people have died, or gone missing trying to cross the Mediterranean to Europe, this year, according to data by the UNHCR, the UN refugee agency, last week.

>>Read: How many asylum seekers would other EU countries need to match Germany?

The figures do not include the latest tragedy, when at least 15 migrants and refugees, including six children, drowned off Greece on Sunday (1 November).

Most of the Mediterranean deaths this year have happened on the longer, more dangerous route to Italy, but with surging numbers attempting the far shorter crossing from Turkey to Greece, the death toll along that route has been mounting.

The latest tragedies bring the migrant death toll in Greek waters in the past month to more than 80, with many of them children.

Christ, that is basically 2.5 million a year if it remains steady next year and that isn't counting the ones already here and those coming by land.

This.
Is.
Suicide.

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