Post: #476

Quote:Really tells you all you need to know about the media - a right leaning, 97% Catholic country, but completely under control by the same money boys as in Toronto.

I guess deep down we knew that, but for it to be confirmed is a bit disheartening. All the big money brokers seem to be on board with the current narrative. I guess the whole system will have to come down just about everywhere west of Russia.

Post: #477

(09-07-2015 11:34 AM)Lika Wrote:  Any political party / group slightly critical of mass immigration and population replacement is immediately labelled extreme right / nationalist / fascist / nazi.

I totally get that. For example, I saw someone from the UK comment on the petition to stop migration: "now we know who the racists are." But I just don't see what choice we have at this point. Anyway, if they keep calling millions of people across Europe "nazis" over and over, eventually that card will get played out. Just like the accusations of racism against Trump fall on deaf ears, the left has simply cried wolf too often.

It would be fun to troll them by getting a far-right Jewish group from Israel to join a protest against the migrants. Not saying it's probable, but if something like this was pulled of, it would be hilarious to see the media try to justify calling a bunch of rabbis nazis.

Hell, Iran even got a bunch of rabbis to show up for their holocaust denial conference, so why not?
http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Conferen...12Iran.cfm

Post: #478

(09-07-2015 12:34 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:20 PM)Grizzly Bear Wrote:  

Quote:'Chancellor Angela Merkel has said the "breathtaking" flow of migrants into Germany will "occupy and change" the country in the coming years.'

I wonder where she got that from.

^^^



@everyone

This is crazy:





As I think about this, maybe the West deserves to die out. I don't welcome it, but from a Darwinian perspective, the more masculine cultures of the Middle East and Africa are dominating the feminized culture of the West. When people give up on reproducing and gleefully hand their country away to foreigners that are hostile to them, they don't deserve to continue on. This is not unprecedented in history. Remember when Europeans showed up in Mezo-America, Cortes and the gang were worshiped as gods and welcomed. They even helped them defeat the Aztecs. They handed away their land to foreigners. As we see, it didn't end too well for them.

But you know, even if they built a 20ft high electric fence and land mines around Europe which effectively kept everyone out, that still does not address the birthrate issue. The video above says that once you fall below a certain replacement level, it is impossible to recover from. Many European countries have fallen below this level. And Western women seem totally uninterested in large families.

Post: #479

(09-07-2015 12:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  As a black American, this makes me reluctant to even want to vacation in Europe now. If this flood of Africans and MENAs continues, it may not even be a place I want to visit since tensions will be high.

That's the sad irony of this whole situation, that regular tourists and legal immigrants will feel the backlash. I met a lot of cool dudes from Morocco, Niger, and Turkey, and to be honest I had more in common with them than most Polish guys. Overall, a majority of men in my neighborhood are extremely beta, and have almost no interests other than drinking beer every day.

Two things about the foreigners I met: they almost immediately told me they are not religious (Islam) and also came here by legal means. It would suck for them to be caught up in this situation, they've done nothing wrong.

Post: #480

(09-06-2015 12:21 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I just watched this interview with Le Pen:





At 10:37 she lays out a key point, there is no left or right. There are nationalists and there are globalists. Everything else is secondary.

We can see this both with the radical "progressive" "social justice" left and the neoliberal, free marketeer right (also known as the cuckservatives).

It's even possible to be even a Bernie Sanders type leftist while remaining a nationalist.

Neomasculinity (and, I hope, a future neofeminine movement) is also an internationalist type movement, but it is inherently traditional and nationalist. In a way, we're the opposite to the Marxists, but we still need to do what they did - "think globally and act locally."

Form alliances with the men, and those patriotic women, of different countries to defeat globalists and defend your national traditions. Coincidentally, this was also a theme I wrote about in my book earlier.

The founding document of neomasculinity is a start, but just a start. We need more philosophy and defined platforms, as well as networks of meetups and publications.

Correct. Since the 19th Century it has been nationalism v internationalism (globalism).

This is why in the West, if you are not a free-trade global 'conservative' or a free morals 'liberal', you are deemed an 'extremist'. You can be Right or Left but woe betide anyone who doesn't obey the 'International Community'.

Ho Chi Minh is probably the most famous leftist nationalist and it was a total misjudgement of the USA to think that he was an international communist.

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Post: #482

(09-07-2015 01:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:19 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I hope the nazis don't go after Roosh by mistake. I was bored and I found a thread on a stormfront about Roosh which they're still posting in, mainly a girl, telling them all that he's a foreign rapist of white women. Idiots.

https://www.blockedurl.org/forum/t927650-5/

"Whitenatalia" is Andre the gypsy.

I missed all that drama while I was away. So juicy.

All the more reason to be cautious who you PM and hang out with from here.

Post: #483

(09-06-2015 04:49 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 04:33 PM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  And 9 months later these "refugees" will have their Anchor Babies.

Who are they gonna have these babies with though? All I see in the pics are young men.

The situation here is worse than 'Anchor Babies' as you are gonna have hundreds of thousands of young men from a different culture being dumped into foreign lands. The feminists like to whine about "rape culture". Right now there's a legitimate chance that it becomes a reality in cities where these men form their enclaves.

You may have noticed the European warbrides welcoming their arrivals.

Post: #484

(09-07-2015 12:02 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  ^ And what practical measure would you propose? Pep talks are easy. Actual, useful action, particularly regarding this subject is more complicated. There are already movements and so far they've pretty much failed. And taking a stand against this is pretty much asking to be branded as a "Neo nazi" "christian fundamentalist", whatever.

There is nothing that can be done without understand the real power structure of the world.

Any movement and demonstrations against immigrants would be instantly subverted, infiltrated and moved into an even more extreme direction. Also any far right party when elected would be instantly bought off. There was recently such a funny police action against Neonazis in the US. When the FBI raid happened against them it turned out that the majority and almost all of the leadership were police/FBI agents. Some of them did not even know that the other guy was an undercover agent too. So essentially they arrested the bottom guys while most of the "Neonazis" went for coffee and donuts.

Sure - violent protests could sway the governments to lower their plans of immigration, but that would actually mean advocating violence and we shouldn't be for that.

Without knowing who does what, then it's very hard to fight against all of this effectively.

Simple but impossible plan if you know who the real enemy is:

1. Giant demonstrations in Europe against the EU, the technocratic structure is to be immediately broken up, countries are best to implement a Swiss direct democratic system
2. Demand in giant demonstrations the abolition of the current central banking and fractional reserve system - any country should issue money interest free - this would have to be done in the US at the same time in order not to destabilize the financial system. It would create an instant economic boom.
3. Withdraw all troops from Middle Eastern countries, just leave military aid for Israel just in case. Stop financing ISIS, Al-Queada and all kinds of extremist organizations. Kick Saudi Arabia in the ass and force them to take refugees or leave them for Iraq to take them over. Leave the Muslim world in peace and let them work out their problems on their own. They will reject radical Islam anyway sooner or later as was already observable in the 1990s in Iran.
4. Fight against terrorist organizations with Assad. Stop spreading stupid propaganda how the Assad military is killing their own citizens. Instead of helping terrorists, just wipe them out quickly. Leave the minor battles to the local troops.
5. Initiate identical interest free money reform in all middle eastern countries - instant prosperity rise.
6. Close all borders for now, immigrants to be shipped back instantly, those that do not comply are to be dealt with force. There are plenty of non-lethal weaponry that every advanced military already has, but does not use - sound cannons, low-impact microwave weaponry etc. Those things fry you a bit, let you vomit etc., but you don't die. If you have no papers, then you are instantly deported unless you have a very good reason to stay. Exceptions can be given, but those will cover less than 1% in my opinion.

If you don't got through steps 1-4 at least, then you can forget about step 6 - also you would have to go through the same steps in the US as well. Sure it's possible to simply do step 6 without changing anything, but the truth is that the guys in charge of the money power are wanting this. Without taking away their power first, then it would be impossible to stop this madness. Yes - rampant violence would likely stop it too for a while, but that is just fighting evil with evil. The immigrants are not our enemies. It is the traitors above who cause the crisis and then let it all happen for their long-term strategic goals.

But how many people would understand that when demonstrating? All they would do is go on the streets with some slogans like "No More Immigrants". THEY KNOW THAT you don't like it, but they also know that you have been too brainwashed now to do much about it.

The time is right to bring down the living standards of the West - 2015 is the beginning of the end of prosperity for the majority. One of the tools for that is the immigrant "crisis". Obviously they have decided to pull the trigger now and chancellor Merkel uses war-time language of challenges, pulling together, making sacrifices etc. It is all so predictable while all their propaganda machinery soothes the EU population. Maybe they will legalize pot quicker to make them accept it better.

Post: #485

(09-07-2015 01:37 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  But you know, even if they built a 20ft high electric fence and land mines around Europe which effectively kept everyone out, that still does not address the birthrate issue. The video above says that once you fall below a certain replacement level, it is impossible to recover from. Many European countries have fallen below this level. And Western women seem totally uninterested in large families.

Actually under the political circumstances that would allow that fence to be built, there would be no problem with the birth rate. The birthrate and the migration rate are the results of leftism. A country that tells a women to stay in the home and raise a family, isn't one that also throws open it's borders. It's just a simple self-preservation and self-annihilation dichotomy: the country's women giving birth at home means more of them, foreign country's citizens immigrating while she works to give them welfare cheques doesn't.

It's also not true it can't be reversed, Russia is having some success doing this. People need to know that (a) it's safe to raise children (which has a long time horizon) and (b) that it's socially expected. In Russia they issue medals now to women who have large families. In Arab countries it's also religiously expected. In those countries, people also don't believe that their culture and society is on it's way out, which discourages having children.

Post: #486

(09-07-2015 01:37 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  The video above says that once you fall below a certain replacement level, it is impossible to recover from. Many European countries have fallen below this level. And Western women seem totally uninterested in large families.

The decline in white fertility rate is not natural, it is artificially engineered.

In France in the 50s, a blue collar worker from Renault car factory had a house, a car and a family of 3-5 children. HIS WIFE DID NOT WORK... His salary was enough to sustain this lifestyle.

Nowadays the white middle class is heavily taxed to subsidize loads of immigrants / descendants and their numerous children.

Both working class or middle class parents MUST work because their purchasing power is now very low and children with their modern lifestyle are increasingly expensive to raise and sustain until they finish university.

Add cultural feminist hedonism to these economic and political factors and one soon realizes that there is nothing natural and irreversible to the decline of white European fertility rate.

On the contrary, 5-10 years of various encouragement policies would completely reverse the trend. I think something like that is happening in Russia btw...

Post: #487

(09-07-2015 02:26 PM)Lika Wrote:  On the contrary, 5-10 years of various encouragement policies would completely reverse the trend.

You know what else would completely reverse the trend? The...

Post: #488

(09-06-2015 04:04 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

Everything to support the Narrative.

The suspicion that the father wanted to get to the West to get new teeth seems to have foundation.

Post: #489

(09-07-2015 01:37 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  This is crazy:





As I think about this, maybe the West deserves to die out. I don't welcome it, but from a Darwinian perspective, the more masculine cultures of the Middle East and Africa are dominating the feminized culture of the West. When people give up on reproducing and gleefully hand their country away to foreigners that are hostile to them, they don't deserve to continue on. This is not unprecedented in history. Remember when Europeans showed up in Mezo-America, Cortes and the gang were worshiped as gods and welcomed. They even helped them defeat the Aztecs. They handed away their land to foreigners. As we see, it didn't end too well for them.

But you know, even if they built a 20ft high electric fence and land mines around Europe which effectively kept everyone out, that still does not address the birthrate issue. The video above says that once you fall below a certain replacement level, it is impossible to recover from. Many European countries have fallen below this level. And Western women seem totally uninterested in large families.

Fortunately, that video is bullshit; when the guy said 25% of the Belgian population was Muslim I paused the video. The problem is of considerable size but it's not on those levels.

Oh yes, I'm so privileged you literally can't even.
Interested in joining the FFL? I tried (and failed).

Post: #490

(09-07-2015 01:14 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 01:08 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:02 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  ^ And what practical measure would you propose? Pep talks are easy. Actual, useful action, particularly regarding this subject is more complicated. There are already movements and so far they've pretty much failed. And taking a stand against this is pretty much asking to be branded as a "Neo nazi" "christian fundamentalist", whatever.

From a practical policy point of view, It is KEY to drop any hint of racist arguments in the immigration dispute, and SOLELY focus on economic reality.

Advanced economies can't absorb tons of the uneducated without it hurting a LOT.

I disagree. The problem is that whenever dissidents go up against the left, they are immediately called racist, and they immediately fall onto their back foot in defending against the claim. So the leftist always defeats them. The correct move is a Hapkido-style "yep, sure, actually I prefer the title 'super racist'. Now, back to the topic of you destroying society, Leftist, ..."

Except "Leftist" is a more or less meaningless, lazy term which doesn't clearly define what exactly you want to do about a situation. It doesn't offer a way to establishing policy or procedures. It has as much intellectual specificity as saying "Sally has cooties."

I'm very liberal on a lot of issues, but pretty radically conservative on immigration. So if you think you'll get mileage by smearing this vague group of people as Leftist, it just doesn't work because no one wants their aunts' and uncles' Social Security taken away.

It's just an intellectually lazy term to use, which doesn't specify what you want.

What exact policy do you want? What are the economic reasons? What will it cost? These are the types of questions adults ask. Sarcasm and name calling don't help a lot towards establishing policy.

Post: #491

Petition to Stop Immigration to the UK almost at 100k signatures.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477

Edit: actually it passed 100k

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Post: #493

Quote:Sir, could you please write more about where you see the world going in the next 5-20 years (particularly Western world)? What will happen to individuals? Sure, if one is rich or even wealthy, he/she should be pretty fine. But what about the rest? What are the negative and positive developments that will follow? I just want to be as prepared as I can.

If you don't want to derail this thread, there's a thread about the future on the "Deep Forum": /thread-49077.html

In my opinion:
1. Social upheaval like in South Africa
2. Large scale Muslim ghettos like in France (banlieus) and ISIS shootings in Europe
3. Mass protests like at the end of the GDR (communist East Germany)
4. Political and economical reform; currency reform (the Euro is not sustainable, debt and interest problems) with debt /interest free money (commodity basket e.g.)
5. jail or prison or death for large parts of the elites
6. new technology will come out (thousands of patents are withheld for reasons of national security)
7. Slow rebuilding, will take at least one or two generations. Includes war countries (Syria, Irak, Lybia).

However, this is an optimistic scenario that assumes that there are enough people who will make a move. Even in government / military / science.

It's comparable to the downfall of the Soviet Union. This state was not sustainable for economic reasons. And it paralyzed itself cause of ideology.

Post: #494

Denmark's immigration minister: "Citizenship is something immigrants must make itself deserving of"

http://avpixlat.info/2015/09/07/danmarks...um=twitter

You'll have to run the full thing through Google Translate.

I think this is pretty clearly a dog whistle, they have little intention of handing out citizenship. From what I have seen of the Danish immigration debate, it's not even debated that the migrants are substantially alien to Danish culture and society. That's much further away from the left than anywhere else.

In fact, even the Left wing party ran on reducing immigration but the election still ended with the surprise upset of the Danish People's Party coming in second.

Post: #495

(09-07-2015 12:14 PM)Libertas Wrote:  The thing is guys, all the talk about people being afraid to be "racist" etc. is starting to wear thin. For this we have in large part our SJW enemies to thank. The buzzwords have been used so much that they've become meaningless.

Don't think so?

Look at the rise of Trump in the U.S., despite him constantly being called "racist." It's gotten to the point where even the celebrity gossips who are full of PC bullshit through and through are taking a softer tone and pondering him as a glamorous President (alongside his hot wife). Look at the rise of the brilliant Cuckservative meme. GamerGate won despite it being called every buzzword under the sun. Look at how the heretical manosphere has absolutely exploded. Look at how nationalists are gaining ground almost everywhere in Europe.

Remember that our side is stronger than they are, inherently. Astute commenters here have the said the media is on full blast because they're desperate. I even think the number of Germans "welcoming refugees" has been grossly exaggerated and signal boosted to effect to spin the narrative, not to report the truth.

We are men. Let's get to work. Europe, America, and everywhere else.

The GamerGate comparison is not a very good one. They're a compromised movement that didn't "win" much. They pretty much agree with their enemy's frame and are just exasperated liberals who are tired of identity politics in video game journalism. That's it. They aimed to convince neutral liberals and others that they weren't actually racist, homophobic, transphobic or whatever.

Most of the actual GamerGaters are pro-homosexual, pro-tranny, etc. etc.

A nationalist movement will have to come to grips with racial and ethnic identity. After all, what is a nation? It is its people. It can be done without becoming a Jerry Springer-esque parody movement of Hollywood Nazis and Klanners by simply ignoring the more extreme ridiculous voices like the left does. They never highlight the open communists in their movement nor do they disavow them. They ignore and keep fighting for their goals. They are not shamed by conservatives pointing out the commies and basically don't go on defense about it, they just attack through the criticism. A "no enemies to the right" strategy is necessary to get anywhere otherwise infighting and petty squabbles will bring such a movement to a grinding halt.

Throwing the more extreme people out of the boat immediately shows your enemy that you give a fuck what they think and have bought into their frame. At that point you've already lost and things will continue to spiral downward. Just ignore them instead.

Post: #496

(09-07-2015 02:16 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Simple but impossible plan if you know who the real enemy is:


2. [b]Demand in giant demonstrations the abolition of the current central banking and fractional reserve system - any country should issue money interest free - this would have to be done in the US at the same time in order not to destabilize the financial system. It would create an instant economic boom. [/b]


The time is right to bring down the living standards of the West - 2015 is the beginning of the end of prosperity for the majority. One of the tools for that is the immigrant "crisis". Obviously they have decided to pull the trigger now and chancellor Merkel uses war-time language of challenges, pulling together, making sacrifices etc. It is all so predictable while all their propaganda machinery soothes the EU population. Maybe they will legalize pot quicker to make them accept it better.

In the U.S. its the Race issue, a LOT of people are being useful idiots: i.e Black Lives matter, and the people against them (especially many on this forum) by thinking that "Race is the problem"

There is a reason why the media is distracting the masses with this, in the U.S. and allowing the migrants to come in in Europe.

Timing and money, Pretty much all the big banks have ties with the major media companies, They know that they were about to lose their free ride from the taxpayers of the world after what (almost)happened in Greece. (The prime minister either got threatened, or bought off)

Pretty much this immigrant push serves two purposes:
A) Distraction Not sure if any of you know this, but DeuscheBank is pretty much insolvent, they along with Goldman pretty much started the whole Greece Crisis (transferring their private debt into government debt, and made billions of dollars off of it) I believe the current number was like $10 Trillion Dollars in Debt that DesutcheBank is in due to all the derivatives repackaged from Greek debt. . .so basically if Greece went through with defaulting and leaving the Euro, and going back to their own currency, then that would be the end of Duestchebank. as Italy, France, Spain, and Britain who are all under massive debt would basically pull an Iceland, and kick the bankers out forgive massive amounts of debt (which is what needs to happen anyway)

The banks can't have this, as well as the mega corporations that have investments with the banks. So in Europe they engineered the migrant Crisis using the media to win the hearts and minds of the people (why do you think this happened NOW, right after Greece did what it did?)

I went into the second purpose up there but Ill categorize it:

B)The Banks Keeping the Long Con going Zelcorpion Mentioned this in an earlier thread; Usury. Thing is, its not just Usury in countries' debt it's usury ON THE BANK'S OWN debt! This makes the banks money as when banks create debt, they ALSO create money. Which is the real threat (not so much state money printing) Basically we've been having money printing from TWO sources, instead of one. This has been going on since the repeal of Glass-Steagal (thanks Clinton) that gave the banks this power and ALSO FORBIDS the Fed reserve of printing money to give the people on main street (i.e. the debt jubilee that I've been mentioning in this post) The Fed could have actually solved this crisis in 2008. . .if it weren't for Glass-Steagal being repealed. . .of course if it wasn't repealed there most likely wouldn't be all this mess in the first place.

Basically, Real change wont really happen until the banks gamble too much and too hard and lose it all to the house (the market) and push that big loss onto the citizens - which is another reason why bringing tons and tons of migrants is good. .. for the bankers.

It's a slow crawl to the bottom.

Change will most likely not happen in our life times, the momentum is too great, SJWs are proud in being the useful idiots of the Banks, and the conservative right is too busy trying to fight them off instead of preparing and moving somewhere else. Funny thing is, if the SJWs weren't so bent on feminism this that and the other, and other stupid useless "Crusades" They'd be able to topple the Criminal Banking Cartels that have been stealing trillions of Dollars from the people for 20-30 years.

Really the only country that has a chance to come out of this, is Ironically, China as they control all the media, and political power, and are aware of the actual solutions that will work. . .its just a matter of will power. Which is why people should watch what China does very carefully in it's economic sector in the next 5 or so years. . . A move to China may be what people in the know need to do.

I have my thoughts on Russia, but Putin/FSB is/are also being a useful idiot(s) sadly.

This link is great for those interested:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ProfSteveKeen

Post: #497

Also those "Belgium is 25% Muslim" or "Britain will be majority Muslim by 2050" videos are from a time when the *only* people talking about this were far to the right and working off of bad data (as it was not studied).

Pew, which while center left I have no reason to doubt their accuracy, says Islam will likely top off at 10% by 2050.

And to concur with Wastelander on GamerGate. Their solution is literally this: stop Identity Politics.

This is obviously impossible as Identity Politics is simply the political manifestation of real, tribal delineations (yes, with some encouragement from the Left but the phenomena has existed before our modern era).

Post: #498

(09-07-2015 05:23 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  The GamerGate comparison is not a very good one. They're a compromised movement that didn't "win" much. They pretty much agree with their enemy's frame and are just exasperated liberals who are tired of identity politics in video game journalism. That's it. They aimed to convince neutral liberals and others that they weren't actually racist, homophobic, transphobic or whatever.

Most of the actual GamerGaters are pro-homosexual, pro-tranny, etc. etc.

A nationalist movement will have to come to grips with racial and ethnic identity. After all, what is a nation? It is its people. It can be done without becoming a Jerry Springer-esque parody movement of Hollywood Nazis and Klanners by simply ignoring the more extreme ridiculous voices like the left does. They never highlight the open communists in their movement nor do they disavow them. They ignore and keep fighting for their goals. They are not shamed by conservatives pointing out the commies and basically don't go on defense about it, they just attack through the criticism. A "no enemies to the right" strategy is necessary to get anywhere otherwise infighting and petty squabbles will bring such a movement to a grinding halt.

Throwing the more extreme people out of the boat immediately shows your enemy that you give a fuck what they think and have bought into their frame. At that point you've already lost and things will continue to spiral downward. Just ignore them instead.

The reason I brought up GamerGate was because it was the first spontaneous movement against Cultural Marxism that succeeded in its goals - despite the entire narrative being set against it.

Most of the people involved were as you say, but you wouldn't think it by the way the media handled it.

This is obviously much more serious and will call for greater spunk, but to not learn the lessons of GamerGate, both good and bad, as we continue on would be foolish. For whatever its faults, it showed us tactics to use and win with, and it woke up more people to the narrative than anything ever had before.

We must have rolled in different circles though. The people I rolled with were pretty hardcore for the most part. Maybe I was just in an insider's group, I guess.

Post: #499

Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

Post: #500

(09-07-2015 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

And do what? work 60 hrs a week with no family/friends and eat Applebees on weekends?

I know a French guy who spent 2 years over here and he couldn't wait to go back.