Post: #351

(09-06-2015 11:49 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:43 AM)uncledick Wrote:  So we've gotten the negative aspects of this monumental demographic change within Europe in this thread so far.

What are the positive outcomes from this, if any?

The vast majority of the migrants and immigrants to Europe in general are very conservative traditionalists. So in 20-50 years time this could mean a new onset of the patriarchy with all of it's associated beliefs. The death of feminism, the death of the gay/transsexual/sexual deviance agenda, the rejuvenation of Religion (Albeit it's Islam mostly this time), the resurrection of family orientated life and so forth.

Playing devil's advocate here. I have no doubt that it could turn into one giant clusterfuck and I really do loathe the current situation. But when it's comes to progressives vs traditionalists I'm on the trads side every time. Even if it's means possibly siding with Islam/Muslims/sub Saharan Christians in the future.

They are traditionalist in the middle ages sense....

Exactly. Whilst I'd be considered to hold traditional and out-dated values for being exhausted by the Feminist and Homosexual agendas eroding community and family bonds, (and, as such, think they shouldn't have the cultural power they do if the end result leads to the destabilisation of a society), I'm able to live and let live: I don't want to stone them to death or toss them off rooftops.

I would take no pleasure in seeing an idiot like Jessica Valenti killed by an angry mob over our simple ideological difference, and I suppose that's the difference between Us and Them: Social Justice Warriors want us physically-killed, whereas I simply want their power controlled.

It's a moot point. Western society has chosen its course: self-extermination. Feminists want to feel violently-oppressed to a degree they have to make up forms of oppression like manspreading and air conditioning being sexist, so if their course leads them to a violent martyrdom, then I guess that their choice to make. One of the current SJW thoughtcrimes is Unpersoning anyone who negatively-judges anyone who wants to commit suicide. Maybe they're right.

Post: #352

(09-06-2015 03:19 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 03:09 PM)storm Wrote:  Despite all the fearmongering there has never been a time with more opportunities, more advances in science, or better medical care.

Be careful what you wish for.

I'm waiting for Zelcorpion's reply to this post like

Despite my frequent posts on those topics I tend to agree with the opinion somewhat. Of course both science and medical care could be legions better due to for-profit and for-dogma suppression and destruction of both. But still it's the highest it has been in known human history.

Also the economic opportunities worldwide are some of the best they have been for the above-average man. You have access to a myriad ways of making money - many of them even location independent. For the average man the opportunities are getting less and also to use the ones remaining it is becoming tougher, but still - all the doors have not yet closed.

As far as opportunities for all the uneducated or badly educated immigrants go - no - there are practically no jobs for them. Essentially you import millions of future unemployed - regardless whether they find jobs and squeeze out poor Europeans out of the menial jobs. The net effect is negative.

And yes - care for the fellow man is a noble thing, but everything within reason and a country can refuse entry just as you may refuse any homeless man entry to your home - even if you could afford to house and feed him. Sometimes you simply don't want someone else to disrupt your life and that is your freedom - there is nothing bad about it.

But I guess we can talk about this forever - the EU dictatorship has decided and so it will be done - "diversity" crap will continue.

Post: #353

Does the Bible actually support Open Borders? Every argument I see from Open Borders Bible types is either: a conflation of Biblical commands to treat foreigners well with a desire to have them (of course forgetting that these verses also say foreigners must obey the nation's laws), or a conflation of personal ethics with government policy.

Post: #354

(09-06-2015 05:18 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 02:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

EU-SAUSAGE-FEST coming.

That says it all. hah.

Not only did they let their women behind (at ISIS' mercy?), but also, they let their parents and grand-parents to hang and die...

I mean: according to the narrative, they are "fleeing ISIS and Al Assad, in imminent peril of death", but, indeed they are (95% of them) fleeing alone, able-bodied men abandoning their women, and their old mothers and grand-parents. That totally makes them, heartless opportunists (and scheming invaders, as a bonus)!

Post: #355

(09-06-2015 05:21 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Most of these are from Germany. By the way, I don't see this as a negative. It's natural selection/hypergamy. Western European/Nordic men are weak and feminine, women want dominant guys full of testosterone. Tough luck. Should have watched what women do, not listened to what they say.

Right, the women are pro-immigration because they see the men, I mean, immigrants as having more testosterone than the average euro beta.

They think they are opening the gates to testosterone. Which they'll get all right, and much more...

Also, maybe these women are aiding and encouraging these immigrants because of a hidden / subconscious rape fetish.

Post: #356

It’s amazing how easy it is for the propaganda machine to get men to go to war. But the same men, who willing take the risk of having their balls ripped off by a bullet, won’t defend their own homeland from dangerous invaders because they are terrified of being called names. The controlled media has become so good at manufacturing a virtual reality for us to live in, I don’t see any hope. They can make us do anything, even commit suicide. They have our minds so screwed up. Fighting weaponized psychology is even harder than fighting bullets. We need to unhook from the media and turn it off. Throw your television out the window. Think locally and about surviving with a small community of like-minded people. Eventually we need our own homeland.

Post: #357

Realistically speaking, how would all those male immigrants really affect the sexual marketplace in Germany and other countries? By sexual marketplace I refer to white women aged 18-32.

We have seen how Italian and Spanish migrants do affect the market Nordic countries, but these poor fellas, besides the ones who are smart and enter higher education, are fat, lazy, not ripped, don't really have a penny, live in ghettos, barely speak English, let alone German, and even once they get into welfare, at most they would try to day-game the young white women on the streets, with results as disastrous as we have seen in multiple Youtube videos.

The German prostitutes will have a field day, but I don't see much effects into the broad sexual marketplace.

Post: #358

These so-called refugees are just economic migrants looking for gold. Why only settle in rich countries like Germany and Sweden? If they truly feared for their safety, they would be happy once reaching Turkey or Greece.

Also it's amazing to see almost zero women in the 15-30 age range. Only men. Just like mexicans coming to the USA.

Imagine all these nightclubs in Europe with thousands of new horny Arab men. A true nightmare.

Post: #359

(09-06-2015 02:06 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  snip

I'm starting to think this could be a good thing. The only way for people to realise this a really stupid policy is for them to suffer from the consequences. But damn, I really want to bitch-slap fellow Spaniards who call for more of these people.

Relevant for those who read Spanish. Basically, Brussels will ask us to take in 15.000 of these migrants. It seems insignificant compared to Germany's numbers but we need to remember Spain is a country just recovering from an absolutely devastating economic crisis.

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Post: #360

I think this will push right wing governments/Nationalism very quickly into power.

The left is in an absolute frenzy, trying to spin this way and that. Every single announcement or press PR stunt smells of desperation.

The hard right wing is about to take over Europe. This time, it won't be opposed. England and Germany won't be at war because they BOTH will have turned into hard right wing governments. If Sweden stays Feminist...well then Sweden will be the laughingstock of Europe.

The biggest effort will be to prevent Germany from going "too far right". German politics stays left for generations then finally hits a boiling point so quickly, and goes far right. This time we should encourage the Germans to become conservative but to do so moderately. Don't get angry. Go right wing, stay cool, and focus on squashing the left wing politically. Certainly the Greek financial shit has made average germans furious, and who can blame them. Huge money getting thrown in the toilet.

In America, Trump is likely to win, and if he doesn't, some other Republican will take a page from his book and run very hard right, and win. In the US, Obama's presidency has left a bad taste in the mouths of 75% of the voters, Hispanics and Asians included. The polls will show a democratic win, but the polls are complete lies right now. The democrats will think they have a win right up until election day, then they will be CRUSHED at the last minute. Hillary is so toast, you could spread butter on her.

Right wing takeover coming right up.

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(09-06-2015 06:13 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  The biggest effort will be to prevent Germany from going "too far right". German politics stays left for generations then finally hits a boiling point so quickly, and goes far right. This time we should encourage the Germans to become conservative but to do so moderately. Don't get angry. Go right wing, stay cool, and focus on squashing the left wing politically. Certainly the Greek financial shit has made average germans furious, and who can blame them. Huge money getting thrown in the toilet.

I actually disagree with this. Germany seems to be the one country that doesn't have a strong and organized nationalist force right now.

What I see as more likely is that slowly but surely, probably starting with Le Pen in France and Michaloliakos in Greece (I have some very big reservations about Golden Dawn, but it's unfortunately time to pick a poison). Other places will follow.

Germany is going to try everything in its power to stop these things from happening and preserve the EU. What Germany might wind up doing, I'm not sure, but as Blick said earlier, the EU is Germany's empire, so it will try to preserve it by whatever means it can.

It'll be reminiscent of a pan-European cold war, IMO, as the nationalist parties form an informal league against Germany. In this, it will be necessary for Britain, the historic defender of nationhood in Europe against imperial ambitions (whether from France, Germany, or Russia) to take the lead. I don't think UKIP will get in any time soon, but I do think the Conservatives will start to become more nationalistic.

Same thing here in the US with the Republican party as Trump keeps on coming.

And as for us? I think we need a set of sound political principles for neomasculine men (and neofeminine women) that we can agree on and implement in our own communities. I'll volunteer to start working on a draft pamphlet if you guys want. I'm in a good position to make something like that, as those of you who have met me may know.

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Should change the title to "Gibsmedat or Die". It would be more accurate.

Post: #365

(09-06-2015 05:21 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 04:49 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  Who are they gonna have these babies with though?

WB all day long.

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Post: #366

Not afraid of the intermarriage thing.

Not even in Sweden does it seem to be an issue: http://www.thelocal.se/20150402/single-i...ith-swedes

Post: #367

(09-06-2015 07:20 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  Not afraid of the intermarriage thing.

Not even in Sweden does it seem to be an issue: http://www.thelocal.se/20150402/single-i...ith-swedes

Intermarriage thing is not a genuine worry. The point that I challenged was that right away these men are going to find native women to bang and have kids with. I call BS on that. The very few alphas who assimilate will have some success down the road but most of these guys are not going to have success with the native women. The women right now may parade them around on social media to get likes and feel good about themselves but ultimately these are guys from a completely different culture that don't speak the language or share the same values.

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Post: #369

(09-06-2015 05:21 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 04:49 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  Who are they gonna have these babies with though?

Don't worry.










Most of these are from Germany. By the way, I don't see this as a negative. It's natural selection/hypergamy. Western European/Nordic men are weak and feminine, women want dominant guys full of testosterone. Tough luck. Should have watched what women do, not listened to what they say.

The one in the first picture is Didier Drogba and the one in the second picture is Usain Bolt.

Post: #370

The Dutch and Brits seem to be pretty firmly against taking refugees. This is good.

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Post: #372

The vast majority of these men, likely 96-99% will "import" wives from back home.

This is how the demographic change in Europe has taken place:

Once the male migrant achieves some sort of legal status via the existing EU loopholes he then contacts his family back home and lets them know that he is looking for a wife. Because of his new achieved status, he is now prime cock for women back home. Now with social media, this is easier to do then ever. He plans a trip back home while his family has already set up meetings with "good girls" from "honorable" families. At the end of his "vacation" he makes a decision, has a ceremony, and begins paperwork for her tourist visa to visit him and live with him for at least a year in his new European residence.

During that year he uses whatever connection he has in his ethnic circle to find his wife a job which will then lead to papers for her permanent stay. The two of them will then immediately squeeze out a couple of babies(far more than the natives). The EU country is a "socialist heaven" so that means the children will then have the same access to healthcare and education as the natives. They then eventually bring more relatives and they bring more relatives and...well you know the rest.

This scenario is repeated millions of times in every EU country. Its already said before but you can't have open borders as well as a social welfare state. Also, while multiculturalism doesn't work in any system, it really fucks things up in a socialist system. The more socialist an economic system is the more damage multiculturalism causes.

Post: #373

Porfirio, i have spoken with some cousins in Spain and they told me that most are against taking more "moros", especially when still a lot of spaniards and in financial dire situations. What are the chavistas in Podemos saying about this?

Post: #374

Well, fuck me, the penny has dropped for some in the mainstream media:

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/refu...7515922792

Quote:Documents scattered only metres from Serbia’s border with Hungary provide evidence that many of the migrants flooding Europe to escape war or poverty are scrapping their true nationalities and likely assuming new ones, just as they enter the European Union.
Many of those travellers believe that using a fake document — or having none at all — gives them a better of chance of receiving asylum in Germany and other western European states. That’s because the surest route to asylum is to be a refugee from war and not an economic migrant fleeing poverty. That fact has led to a huge influx of people claiming to be Syrian.

Serbian border police say that 90 per cent of those arriving from Macedonia, some 3,000 a day, claim they are Syrian, although they have no documents to prove it. The so-called Balkan corridor for the migrant flight starts in Turkey, then goes through Macedonia and Serbia before entering the European Union in Hungary.

“You can see that something is fishy when most of those who cross into Serbia enter January first as the date of their birth,” said border police officer Miroslav Jovic. “Guess that’s the first date that comes to their mind.”

And some of them are openly cocky about it:

Quote:Aware of the potential asylum rejection, many migrants fleeing poverty are getting rid of their identity documents altogether.
Among those who had no second thoughts about ditching their true identity was Rafik from Pakistan.

“I’m leaving my old life behind,” said Rafik, who gave only his first name because he feared repercussions when applying for asylum in Germany. “I’m starting a new one.”

“I don’t have a passport, nor any other identity paper,” he said, as he dashed under the fence into Hungary. “Let’s see which country they will choose to kick me back to.”

And this being the problem: they don't leave their old lives behind. They bring all of that shit with them. Legal migrants have the impetus and will to do so.

Post: #375

(09-06-2015 08:49 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  Porfirio, i have spoken with some cousins in Spain and they told me that most are against taking more "moros", especially when still a lot of spaniards and in financial dire situations. What are the chavistas in Podemos saying about this?

http://podemos.info/podemos-denuncia-la-...en-europa/

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