Post: #26

While away for the weekend, my main girl let me know that my communications with her were less than adequate while I was away. I am trying to decide whether to next her. What's honestly stopping me is that I don't have anything else lined up.

Post: #27

(09-07-2015 11:53 AM)Floridian1 Wrote:  While away for the weekend, my main girl let me know that my communications with her were less than adequate while I was away. I am trying to decide whether to next her. What's honestly stopping me is that I don't have anything else lined up.

Need more details, like define less than adequate.

If you had no other pussy occupying your time while you were away, then you should be asking yourself why you didn't really care to keep in contact with her, the answer to that question likely means you've already made a decision, you just haven't realized it yet consciously.

I agree with the spirit of this thread, the OP is often on point, but I would caution dudes who aren't tight enough with this level of the game yet from "overgaming", which leads to them fucking up decent relationships because they're making such a concerted effort to be the one who cares less.

There comes a point when once a chick is really rocking with you, you have to dead some of the head games that are more appropriate for the beginning when it makes sense to see how much she's willing to invest, so you can plot your next move, otherwise you'll overgame and play yourself.

Post: #28

(09-07-2015 12:28 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 11:53 AM)Floridian1 Wrote:  While away for the weekend, my main girl let me know that my communications with her were less than adequate while I was away. I am trying to decide whether to next her. What's honestly stopping me is that I don't have anything else lined up.

Need more details, like define less than adequate.

If you had no other pussy occupying your time while you were away, then you should be asking yourself why you didn't really care to keep in contact with her, the answer to that question likely means you've already made a decision, you just haven't realized it yet consciously.

I agree with the spirit of this thread, the OP is often on point, but I would caution dudes who aren't tight enough with this level of the game yet from "overgaming", which leads to them fucking up decent relationships because they're making such a concerted effort to be the one who cares less.

There comes a point when once a chick is really rocking with you, you have to dead some of the head games that are more appropriate for the beginning when it makes sense to see how much she's willing to invest, so you can plot your next move, otherwise you'll overgame and play yourself.

You honestly nailed it. I am trying hard to be the one who cares less. I responded to most of her messages but my responses were short with an occasional emoji.

Post: #29

It definitely gets easier as you rack up more notches, travel the world, have girls fall in love with you (without committing/loving them).

But it's never easy to lose a hot girl that checks a lot of the boxes you look for: tall, thin, feminine, caring etc.

I think this topic also begs the question as to what's better, being in a relationship with a girl who is a point or 2 below you on the looks scale (but is incredibly caring/loyal), or the Krauser ideal (hotter, younger, tighter).

My experience with game has been that the better my game becomes, the better my ability to retain and keep girls hooked that fall in the 6 to 7 range. But, while learning game has allowed to me to hook up with 8's and even bang the occasional 9 once in a blue moon, I still have trouble keeping those girls around long-term.

While cute girls know what they have with you is great and they aren't willing to let that go, it's the really hot ones that have other high-value guys constantly competing for them. I think it's harder to to lose a girl that you've worked hard for and who has many other options, because generally it's your long-term game that hasn't been tight enough to keep her coming back for more. You bang the elusive 9, maybe get her out on a few dates but before you know it she's disappeared again.

Then you have your pretty side chick whose cooking for you and going out of her way to make sure you're happy - when she leaves because you fail to give her a relationship (or for other reasons), it doesn't really sting - your game is strong enough to replace her quickly.

Bottom line for me is that losing a girl who before game I wouldn't have been able to seduce and date, still sucks. Although even when splitting up with a great girl, I'll never be an emotional wreck like I once was as a teenager having that first girlfriend and believing in 'the one' hollywood love-movie bullshit...

Post: #30

One of my plates confided in me today that she fucked another guy after just a week back at college. It's funny because she was most likely expecting a very beta response, which is exactly what I would have given her only a year or so ago. She was noticeably flummoxed and surprised when I dropped that really not only did I not care, I had also banged a chick in the interim.

The closest thing a man has to invincibility in game is multiple open passing lanes.

Post: #31

(09-08-2015 10:52 PM)swuglyfe Wrote:  One of my plates confided in me today that she fucked another guy after just a week back at college. It's funny because she was most likely expecting a very beta response, which is exactly what I would have given her only a year or so ago. She was noticeably flummoxed and surprised when I dropped that really not only did I not care, I had also banged a chick in the interim.

Forget your response, because that's not really the point, you should be asking yourself the question, "Why did she tell me?"

We could start a whole new topic just about the situation you described.

Post: #32

Every time a girl brings up that she has banged another guy without provocation it is always because she is desperate in some way.

She is desperate usually because she is not getting a LTR, attention, validation, gifts or whatever she wants and she is losing hand with all the guys she is fucking as she perceives it. Could be with you, the guy she is telling, or with her main squeeze that also isn't committing or with both at the same time.

She is a frog in a slow simmer pot that feels the pressure of having neither guy really hooking her.

Often times she may bait the lesser of the guys she is banging with this to invoke drama and attention - pretty much Beta Extortion for a relationship. This is dead on arrival because if she tells you she is banging other guys it would be a short lived validation relationship she would cheat on and leave soon after.

With the main squeeze that isn't panning out she would say this more out of spite to test her own value and seek validation - this is a purely vain act. I think she knows deep down though when she pulls this card, she already knows the answer and isn't so surprised when the guy doesn't give and shit and she usually just gets bitter, then that guy cuts the cord.

As a lesser guy on her roster if she tells you this and you don't get phased she won't be bitter because she hasn't fallen for you yet. This can strike curiosity in her and you can leap frog to start becoming the main squeeze she chases after. Either way she isn't good for anything but fucking.

If a girl is perfectly content with her current spot on your roster she will never talk about another man. She will have her focus on you to keep moving up that roster or be happy to just maintain it depending on her current life motivations and prospects.

Post: #33

(09-09-2015 01:48 PM)Travesty Wrote:  As a lesser guy on her roster if she tells you this and you don't get phased she won't be bitter because she hasn't fallen for you yet. This can strike curiosity in her and you can leap frog to start becoming the main squeeze she chases after. Either way she isn't good for anything but fucking.

Couldn't be spoken more truthfully - any girl that drops a line that she's fucking other dudes is automatically nexted or is just a plate.

She's out to cause drama, spark a decision, or probing to see what she is it you.

It's your job, to swat that shit test down, then boot her or regulate her to a DTF.

Post: #34

One thing I'd like to add to the observations I have made so far in this thread, due to recent events.

Always follow your gut instinct.

No ifs or buts.

Sometimes your judgement may be clouded. You may want to try to make things work despite the inherent difficulties of a certain situation. After all, she's one of those rare girls that has left a strong impression on you.

Despite this. If your gut instinct is telling you to end it, for whatever reason, overt or not, you end it. Your gut instinct unlike your emotions is never clouded or misconceived. It is never wrong.

Even though it's been a tough moment to overcome as I ended our relationship with strong feelings on both ends, it's a game victory for me, because I've made strides forward. My awareness and intuition are stronger than ever before.

One thing I'd like to add to the sentiment of this thread is -- "always be willing to walk away at any moment."

When I originally watched that video in post #2 having known about it before, I just saw it as an interesting observation. Now, when circumstances were relevant, I noticed how valuable that mindset is. How essential it is.

For the moment, I want to be by myself again. I'm not currently exploring my other options, and I have nothing lined up right now by choice. I'll take a well-deserved rest before I get back to it. The highs and lows once again.

I think this is different from the mainstream advice, where it is commonly said that you should always have something going. Not just as a backup, but to always be working your options. For me, that is not what works best. I'm choosing not to explore other options for the time being.

And if I'm able to end things against her will, with what is to me a quality girl, and have her think that partly it's because I've moved on to another, and rather be content in the fact that I'm choosing to end it to be on my own for the moment besides other reasons, without feeling an anxious and common need to replace her; to me, if that's not abundance, I'm not sure what is.

And most importantly, because I'm able to do this, I feel free.

Post: #35

(10-02-2015 12:31 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  snip

I can't even tell you how many times I have said to myself "should have gone with my gut instinct" after the fact. It's a truism that is so easy to ignore when emotions run high, but it never falters or waivers and hindsight is 20/20. The gut is king 100% of the time.

Being able to walk away and keep your emotions together and in check is invaluable. Bravo on your takeaway from this thread and your personal advancement in game and life as a man.

Post: #36

(09-01-2015 04:15 PM)Menace Wrote:  Game immunizes you against the depths of romantic failure (although I believe on the flip side it also immunizes you against the heights of romantic love).

Here is the challenge, to immunise yourself from the bad women, to not let them crush you. To keep the right frame with the good women, to not let them crush you.

And to somehow keep your soul alive enough to experience authentic relationship rewards in the rare space in between.

Post: #37

Having true game is not ignoring your gut, THEN choosing to act based entirely on the notion that your gut is 100% right. Risk mitigation at it's best.

As mentioned by many above, I'll chime in to say the same. 100% of the time, my gut has been right. My desire blinded me and squashed the red-pill reality of it all many-a-time. Remaining no one's sucker, is so fucking dominant, your value raises proportionately, instantly when you make the right choice.

I too am in a state of not refilling my cache. Since most girls whore it up all spring and summer then lock down a guy for winter, I'm learning remaining single as a habit through the winter (as long as I'm young at heart), leaves me much stronger when the snow melts in spring, coming out "better" on the other side.

All those stuck in the same old cycle, women especially, make no growth. They get the same type of guys, lead the same boring meaningless lives, nothing changes.

The last regular plate I had I just dropped. Her game was apparently to reconnect, and dump me after clearly covertly hooking up with me and another guy(s) while we rekindled our little flame. These are my gut instincts anyways.

Like puppy training, as dick headed as it may sound, we banged a few weeks after a 2-month hiatus where we surely both fucked others (bulk of summer). The most recent time of which was watching a movie until very late (4:30am), lack luster exhausted sex afterwards, and shitty sleeping in her shitty bed, flip flopping all night.

When I fully awoke, she got up to smoke a ciggy (outdoors as I demand when I'm present), came back in , morning wood was fading when she finally came back up stairs, and she started in with little b.s. comments disqualifying me.

She went back down stairs, I started to come onto her, she told me she "wasn't in the mood," as if I went to bed with a girlfriend, and woke up next to a stranger. My guess is she got a text from someone else she was fucking who saw my car in her driveway and accosted her into sexual guilt, even deeper than her solipsistic hamster can normally justify.

This is all no surprise as during our 2-month hiatus she quit hanging out with her main BFF (married, kids, stable), and started hangin out with a 31 yo rich bitch, who looks remarkably just like her, is divorced with a son, and likes to party on weekends and occasional weekdays. Monkey see, monkey do.

Then I said these words:"I expect to have sex with the girl I'm seeing, when I want, how I want, because I have little time to waste."
Her:"Just because you're 41 and I'm 29 doesn't mean my time isn't just as important as yours, and sometimes I just don't feel like having sex."
Me:"I don't think we're compatible in that case. We just got back together and you're cutting me off from sex, this isn't good, and selfish to boot."

I then walked out the fuckin door and neither of us have talked since. it's been a week. Certainly she expected me to chase and kiss ass..so she could "officially" dump me first, this was her version of the "dick move" at the very least, or a shit test, and/or she just decided to end it and get redemption since the last time around I dropped her flat on her face for her snarkiness. Wasn't meant to be, and I made sure of that. My lesson to her if there was one is:"Don't be irritable on my time, and don't cut off the sex for any reason whatsoever, or lose me." Tataa cunt.

I've found it very typical for girls to attempt to reenter my life on the premise they say they're not seeing anyone, when in fact it's just a cock comparison soiree. When my gut tells me that's what's occurring, unless she's smokin hot, she doesn't get my best. She gets used by me before she uses me again. I won't be a girl's agent for pissing off other guys. She can have them when she comes crawling back to me after I nixed her, and she isn't jumping through hoops to satisfy me.

Post: #38

I love this stuff

Post: #39

This is so bad but so true.

Lately I've reached that point where I'm perfectly OK whether my GF stays with me or not. It's weird state of mind to be honest. It's not indifference as I care about her and or relationship. It's more like maturity. That understanding that real love or connection is natural and mutual. When we try to force it to make it work it then it starts to go downhill, resentment kicks in and then it's best for both of us to let go and go our own way.

I tried to put it in words and this is what I told my GF numerous times:

"I want you to be happy. If you can be happier with someone else then go for it, leave me and never look back"

"You can't force love. If you ever catch yourself explaining yourself why you're with me it's probably over"

"Never be afraid of leaving me if you're not happy with me"

"Don't ever TRY to make our relationship work, don't change. Stay the way you are and see how it works out. If that is not enough we have no chance longterm"

Post: #40

@XXL

You operate on the same principle?

Like if you're with your girl but a side/new chick is actually better do you drop her?

I have a similar outlook, but i find that the facts on the ground when i meet a new chick but the main is still handling hers, i don't think it's that easy to pull up stakes.

Post: #41

(12-15-2015 03:58 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @XXL

You operate on the same principle?

Like if you're with your girl but a side/new chick is actually better do you drop her?

I have a similar outlook, but i find that the facts on the ground when i meet a new chick but the main is still handling hers, i don't think it's that easy to pull up stakes.

To me it's all about how we both fit each other. When I'm on the fence but my GF is still "handling hers" and a new interesting girl seems like a better fit for me I give myself some time to test her and evaluate how we fit each other. Then I make my decision.

I learned not to make snap decisions when I'm still on the fence. I've learned a lot about women by hiding my cards and waiting to see how things work out.


BTW.. That willingness to lose a girl at any moment, as long as it's honest, is actually effective way to keep a girl. Especially a hot one. It's like some strange power shift where you have the upper hand. It makes no sense actually cause letting a girl know that she can go seems more like quitting, not turning the tables. Yet, it works. Just like making a girl jealous. Same thing, you show her you can do better and she sticks to you. I think it's a validation issue.

Post: #42

(09-01-2015 04:15 PM)Menace Wrote:  Have direct experience with this. This is something you can't really fake. It comes with experience, belief in yourself, and killing of your ego. I was seeing a girl who I cared for very much and vice versa. There was a situation, despite me having prepared her for, and talked to her about, and tried to help her with, that ultimately she found overwhelming. So one day we meet for coffee and I sensed before hand it was going to be over. She broke up with me. That can be a hard pill to swallow because we're all great players and slay pussy and all that. But that is the truth.

I said fine, good luck. I didn't really hold a grudge against her. I broke off all contact with her. Blocked her on social media/messaging apps. Mailed the stuff he had at my place back to her. I was pretty sad for about three days, then was starting to look forward to find someone new. A few days later she calls me. I picked up thinking it was someone else. She wanted to meet up. She apologized right away and told me that she loved me and that she was ready to stalk me at work to make sure she saw me. She had a really rough time. Meanwhile, I was more or less ok. Game immunizes you against the depths of romantic failure (although I believe on the flip side it also immunizes you against the heights of romantic love). We got back together (she's a quality girl in every sense) and she adores me more than ever. Because now she knows what I am made of. The power of no with a woman is a great power.

I agree. Nothing gets a woman's hamster hyperventilating like a man willing to walk away and go completely silent.

I think my game and connection with women is a lot more emotional than most guys here, and I feel like I've gone through this little cycle or mini-versions of it so many times over the years - not necessarily because they pulled the plug (though that's certainly been the case its share of times) but also often for other drama, growing pains, blowout fights, the stubborness standoff, crushing their ultimatums.

It's not even a guess anymore how it'll turn out in the end, and its rare they don't come back around.

Ah, love and war... For me, half the spell is feigning surprise when I pick up the phone or when we're lying there sweaty after the makeup sex. The same way some of you guys walk through that same first night seduction pattern like it's fresh again and again, I've mastered the art of pretending the romantic reunion isn't something I've done a million times with however many other girls.

In one of my most dramatic drunken relationships it seemed to be a weekly occurrence. haha Even if it's a repeat, you just hold out a little bit longer and it crushes any doubts that it's "actually for real this time." After all, you never reinitiated the contact in the past...And the more times it happens, ironically, the stronger her attachment to you grows - you become that rolling stone she's afraid will blow on away at any moment.

If you feed off a little dysfunction the way I seem to, you can sometimes even use this to reel her deeper in before you've even slept together. Or push a woman over the edge who was trying to make you wait for sex. Boom - suddenly they're tracking you down and chasing you into your bed.

I've lost my share of women this way too when the timing was off, but it has paid dividends more often than not. The real trick is you really have to be willing to let go - it loses its power if you completely fake it. Even better if you've planned a trip to some exotic location with your buddies by the time she comes back around.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #43

Every single time that I've walked, chick got back into line. Every single time a chick walked on me, i was up in the next chick by the end of the week.

Sure a broseph was holding back the tears, but there's nothing like a new chick to remind a player that his happiness is the most important thing in the world.

WIA

Post: #44

Sometimes a main chick can sense when she has a serious threat in the person of a new woman

The guy may start to pull away subconsciously, not engage the BS as much or behave very indifferently.

Those pity little skirmishes with the main are an afterthought or just plain background noise, to the symphony that is a new romantic interest

Once she senses her impending abandonment, the main will sometimes self-regulate and start putting forth more effort.

Unfortunately if it's coming from an insincere place, she will usually fall back into her normal (true) self after in short order.

Post: #45

(12-16-2015 03:44 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Sometimes a main chick can sense when she has a serious threat in the person of a new woman

The guy may start to pull away subconsciously, not engage the BS as much or behave very indifferently.

Those pity little skirmishes with the main are an afterthought or just plain background noise, to the symphony that is a new romantic interest

Once she senses her impending abandonment, the main will sometimes self-regulate and start putting forth more effort.

Unfortunately if it's coming from an insincere place, she will usually fall back into her normal (true) self after in short order.

There is a dividing line.

If you let a girl know the deal with what you like and don't like early on then she will generally follow suit (or jump off the wagon quick because you aren't compatible), but if you let shit slide then decide to make a stink about it once you are fed up, then she will just band-aid if if she wants to keep you around then fall back into what she is used to with you.

It's all about setting up the standard from the onset.

I just started seeing a new girl and I went over the other night before I left down for the week. We got into bed together and I start getting touchy with her looking to get some. She was like a dead fish acting like she was trying to fall asleep while I'm obviously looking to get busy. I get up and start putting my clothes on. She goes "leaving?" "Yeah you don't seem interested in sex so I'm gonna go" "Oh your plan was to just come here and hit it and quit it?" "No my plan was to have sex and fall asleep but you're playing a game so I'm leaving" so she stands up in the bed, has me come over and gets all sweet with me, then goes on about how her IUD is hurting her... then says she could blow me... then says having sex may move it around a bit and make it feel better. So she blew me and we had sex, and she wanted to have sex again in the morning but I had to go.

I set that precedent. I'm not going to be sharing a bed with a girl who is going to play games with sex. My nut is sacred and if you're not fucking me then I don't want anything to do with you.

You can't let shit slide that you don't want to put up with because then she will know she can get away with it. If she catches the vibe that you will be out the door if she doesn't do what you want then she will shape right up if she wants to keep you around... or not if she doesn't give a shit, and then that takes care of all the guess work for you.

Post: #46

(12-16-2015 04:59 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  There is a dividing line.

If you let a girl know the deal with what you like and don't like early on then she will generally follow suit (or jump off the wagon quick because you aren't compatible), but if you let shit slide then decide to make a stink about it once you are fed up, then she will just band-aid if if she wants to keep you around then fall back into what she is used to with you.

It's all about setting up the standard from the onset.

I just started seeing a new girl and I went over the other night before I left down for the week. We got into bed together and I start getting touchy with her looking to get some. She was like a dead fish acting like she was trying to fall asleep while I'm obviously looking to get busy. I get up and start putting my clothes on. She goes "leaving?" "Yeah you don't seem interested in sex so I'm gonna go" "Oh your plan was to just come here and hit it and quit it?" "No my plan was to have sex and fall asleep but you're playing a game so I'm leaving" so she stands up in the bed, has me come over and gets all sweet with me, then goes on about how her IUD is hurting her... then says she could blow me... then says having sex may move it around a bit and make it feel better. So she blew me and we had sex, and she wanted to have sex again in the morning but I had to go.

I set that precedent. I'm not going to be sharing a bed with a girl who is going to play games with sex. My nut is sacred and if you're not fucking me then I don't want anything to do with you.

You can't let shit slide that you don't want to put up with because then she will know she can get away with it. If she catches the vibe that you will be out the door if she doesn't do what you want then she will shape right up if she wants to keep you around... or not if she doesn't give a shit, and then that takes care of all the guess work for you.

Bolded the above that is so key. I was going to put up a similar response but then read yours so I'm just going to agree and add how I implement it personally. It's not quite as hardcore as yours, but you definitely should never be ashamed of wanting sex.

Women know from their earliest interactions with me that I have many female friends. Sometimes this is naturally because of the environment they meet me in, such as at a party (that I or my friend's are throwing), out at a local bar/restaurant (where I often know the staff or have female friends or acquaintances that I run into), or within a social network/group (like at the beach or when hanging out with volleyball friends). Other times, it's because it's clear in conversation that I have female friends and it's natural for me to have female friends.

I don't purposely inject this into the conversation nowadays because it's so natural and normal for me to have many women in my life. Sure, I'm not fucking most of them, but the women that meet me don't know that and even if they could know that I'm not, they still see that I have a lot of opportunities. I joke and have a great time with women when I'm around a girl I'm dating. This sets the precedent that women are a part of my life and the girl I'm dating doesn't have any solid basis to be jealous about me talking to girls or to call me out on there being female belongings around/in my house.

I set the frame from the outset that I'm a social guy and I know and get along with many people and that certainly includes women. It's implied and I think pretty clear for any female that I'm around that not only do women think I'm alright as a guy, I'm attractive to and in demand with women. I flirt with women in the sense that I poke fun at them, joke with them, and am physical with them (platonic but some people might assume it's more). I hug women, I dance with them, I give them massages, I throw shit at them, and I push them around. I play volleyball with them while they're in bikinis.

Women have tried to get jealous with me in the past, they've tried to question my interactions with other women, but the frame I set from the outset means they're pretty much backed into a corner from the very beginning so most of them haven't even tried. It's funny because women both hate and love when a guy is attractive and has women all around him.

Women that I have a relationship of any kind with (such as dating non-exclusively or actually dating exclusively) know that I have a high SMV and that I have a lot of options that would love for me to pursue them. They know the minute they go or slip up I won't be waiting for them because I simply don't have to.

I suppose some people talk about abundance mentality and others talk about not just the mentality, but the reality. I see this as the true lifestyle of abundance with regards to women. A more limited scope of what truly women-abundant men like DistantLight have as a lifestyle.

Post: #47

(12-16-2015 03:44 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Sometimes a main chick can sense when she has a serious threat in the person of a new woman

The guy may start to pull away subconsciously, not engage the BS as much or behave very indifferently.

Those pity little skirmishes with the main are an afterthought or just plain background noise, to the symphony that is a new romantic interest

Once she senses her impending abandonment, the main will sometimes self-regulate and start putting forth more effort.

Unfortunately if it's coming from an insincere place, she will usually fall back into her normal (true) self after in short order.

This ^^, from the player up north.

I learned a long time ago how to drive up a women's interest level in me. When I truly apply it, I get women to fall in love with me. Literally, if I focus my efforts on a women I can get her to fall in love with me. I have done it three times, but its LTR game, it takes about two months. Its resulted in two multi-year LTR's and one 10 year marriage. Its largely based on two things a) gauging her interest level in you, and b) being a "challenge".

Being a challenge means not only showing you can walk, but not displaying any beta like tendencies that show her you are TOO INTERESTED.

Here is an example; I took a 25 year old Moroccon British girl out the other night this week. Big boobies, sexy curvy girl, smart as a whip. We have had sex several times on and off for over two years. I just asked her out again recently, and took her for nice cocktails for her birthday. I adore this girl. I have to hold myself back. I met her when buying a suit, she was the store manager.

She told me about her recent boyfriend. I asked her out a few months ago, and she said she had a man. She hits me up last week, and says, lets go out! So at drinks I ask her about this dude, like, what happened. She says things like; "he constantly blew up my phone", "he used to invite himself to meet my friends, as a way to get closer to me" "it was way too intense" "he was from a small town in the north of England" "hes in finance and used to take me on client dinners" "his creepy clients used to hit on me at dinner" "he tried to get me to meet his parents" "he was just too over the top" and on and on.

This dude wasnt cool. This girl lives with models in mid town Manhattan, and she gets hit on all the time from all sorts of dudes. She liked this dude because he was British, they connected on that level. But he was not cool. She would bring this out of any dude, she is a dime. But this dude didnt get it. This defines todays NYTimes modern man.

Poor kid probably put it all out there, declared his intentions, probably talked way too much, told her he loved her, texted her non-stop, invited her places, wanted to meet her friends and family aggressively, and just vomited his feelings. Constant. For 6 months. She was repulsed and called me to hook up.

Walking away can be a lever you pull whenever you need it. At a basic level, its just not showing you are owned. These are all basic game tactics, but its basic human nature. Limit contact. End dates and calls first. Never reveal your intentions. Dont date on the weekend. Dont call her. Wait wait wait. Dont reveal anything. But always be light and fun, and POSITIVE. Basic shit. Walking away is a mentality, but women want a challenge, they want to earn their love as much as they want to give it.

Post: #48

^ Let's be clear though this attitude applies much more to Western or wannabe Western girls living in the U.S..

Normal women don't need this much game playing.

This is the new agey don't make mistakes barely be human but have all fun vibes we have been forced to accept. We accept it only because it is our only choice here.

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(12-17-2015 12:07 AM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Let's be clear though this attitude applies much more to Western or wannabe Western girls living in the U.S..

Normal women don't need this much game playing.

This is the new agey don't make mistakes barely be human but have all fun vibes we have been forced to accept. We accept it only because it is our only choice here.

Perfectly stated.

Post: #50

(12-17-2015 12:07 AM)Travesty Wrote:  This is the new agey don't make mistakes barely be human but have all fun vibes we have been forced to accept. We accept it only because it is our only choice here.

Right, none of its on you, its merely the right villager you pick.