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Female logic: Live and work in one of gayest cities in the world and then complain that there are not enough masculine men around.

It's like me moving to a retirement community in Florida and complaining that there are not enough hot young women around.

Fuck them.

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American is not messed up. The leftist are trying to reverse gender roles, they want the women cheating one men,having the education and getting jobs. They don't see the downside.

I beg to God that a war breaks out, we'll see what happens to all these clowns with their degenerates ideologies. When real men are needed to defend this nation, what will happen?
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Once again they are assuming that what women look for is what men look for.

I'm college educated and work in finance, and my last LTR didn't go to college. My current 'night friend' is a 26 y/o admin girl, who I think went to college. Thing is I don't give a shit since I like her because she's cute and pleasant.

I have a few 'blue collar' friends (who do just fine financially) and they wouldn't touch a fat/ugly/obnoxious cubicle jockey with a ten foot pole. Not-so-ironically they all got married in their 20s to nice, pleasant, feminine women.

These journalists are doing a huge disservice by only presenting from the feminist POV. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it cannot be emphasized enough that what women look for in a mate is different than what men want. It's so obvious, yet for some reason simply ignored.

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(08-25-2015 07:19 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Female logic: Live and work in one of gayest cities in the world and then complain that there are not enough masculine men around.

It's like me moving to a retirement community in Florida and complaining that there are not enough hot young women around.

Fuck them.

The issue is standards. 5/10 average chicks think they deserve 6-figure, 6-pack male models with sense of humor, pecs, kamasutra skills, huge bank account, etc. They're not willing to settle with average 5/10 men who are nice because those guys are "boring." Eventually these chicks hit the wall and then jump into the loving arms of some sexually frustrated beta orbiter. If women had realistic standards, even Manhattan girls could get wifed up easily.

In this age of social media, women are being blasted with images of hunky actors/musicians/pro-athletes so often that they really think they should be aiming at the level of Ben Affleck or Aaron Rodgers. That slightly pudgy good-natured guy who makes $25/hr at the Jiffy lube isn't good enough. A girl could always "do better."
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(08-25-2015 09:01 PM)BlueOcean Wrote:  The issue is standards. 5/10 average chicks think they deserve 6-figure, 6-pack male models with sense of humor, pecs, kamasutra skills, huge bank account, etc. They're not willing to settle with average 5/10 men who are nice because those guys are "boring." Eventually these chicks hit the wall and then jump into the loving arms of some sexually frustrated beta orbiter. If women had realistic standards, even Manhattan girls could get wifed up easily.

Here's the major problem - those 5,6,7 girls have those standards because they have been fucked by alpha guys. They then equate that as a 'relationship' because they were pumped and dumped by them- they then think they could just as easily lock them down. There-in lies the challenge, and eventually they do and will settle for something much less than what they experienced already. Alpha widow 101
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What was with the advice about moving into mechanical engineering, computer science or financial advising to meet men if you currently find yourself in PR or teaching or nursing??

I don't think it's quite that easy for your typical PR/teacher/nurse type to make that career change into these fields.
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(08-25-2015 11:00 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  
(08-25-2015 09:01 PM)BlueOcean Wrote:  The issue is standards. 5/10 average chicks think they deserve 6-figure, 6-pack male models with sense of humor, pecs, kamasutra skills, huge bank account, etc. They're not willing to settle with average 5/10 men who are nice because those guys are "boring." Eventually these chicks hit the wall and then jump into the loving arms of some sexually frustrated beta orbiter. If women had realistic standards, even Manhattan girls could get wifed up easily.

Here's the major problem - those 5,6,7 girls have those standards because they have been fucked by alpha guys. They then equate that as a 'relationship' because they were pumped and dumped by them- they then think they could just as easily lock them down. There-in lies the challenge, and eventually they do and will settle for something much less than what they experienced already. Alpha widow 101

I think a lot of that has to do with the importation of "masculine" culture to women. Society takes the old attitude of men accomplishing things by getting notches, and tries to instill that attitude in women.

So these girls are being conditioned into thinking that they are the ones who are locking people down and accomplishing things by fucking lots of people. The issue with that is they then misconstrue being pumped and dumped with having actually wrapped up a valuable partner through some kind of virtue other than having a warm vagina.

The simple fact is that women, in this "hook-up culture" we have now, are the commodities--not the players fighting over them. The sex drive for men will force them to fuck a greater variety, and we can do so without damaging our psyches in some fundamental way. Not so for women. And women don't get that--they think they did something special by fucking a guy a league above them.

They then take that as a sign that their value is higher than what they think, which circles on back to an even bigger issue--women these days are being trained to construe every shit quality and every random situation as an indication of high value, whether they fucked an alpha, or they're dumb, fat, slutty, lazy, nagging, annoying, anti-social, etc.

The proportions of bangable girls are thinning so much, women's sexual ethics have depleted so drastically, and their sense of worth has become so ridiculously inflated that relationship dead zones are starting to pop up. No one should be surprised that women are complaining about a shortage of men.

Quote:For women, however, the longer a girl settles for casual sex as opposed to a long-term relationship, the more chance she has of ending up alone.

There's a shortage of men who think it makes sense to not play the field. Why would you settle down with a girl in one of these dead zones? Why would you settle with a slut with an inflated ego? It just makes no sense. And it's almost impossible. The match ups just don't happen with these people.

It's not all negative. Guys like us can and do get way more action this way. But there's entire pockets throughout the West where relationship material is so hard to come by that you can chalk it up as non-existent.

PapayaTapper Wrote:you seem to have a penchant for sticking your dick in high drama retarded trash.
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(08-25-2015 01:42 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  You’re not making the first move

The aggressive women are the ones more likely to get the guy.

NO.

I'm suspicious of women who approach men.

What's wrong with them that men aren't approaching them? Why do they have such an obvious masculine tendency? I want a feminine woman, not a man with a pussy. What other masculine tendencies do they have? Are they into that pegging bullshit?

I've accepted that as a man, it's my job to bust a move.
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Quote:In “Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game,” out today, Birger, a former writer for Fortune and Money magazines, crunched demographic, census and other data to show that it really is historically rough out there for the ladies.

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I'd say the pussy on the pedestal is probably the biggest factor in women not getting approached. I think that's most vital immunity conferred by the Red Pill - the realisation that no matter how fucking hot the woman looks, her farts still smell like death, she likely leaves her used tampons in the toilet unflushed, and somewhere, someone is tired of her shit.
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(08-25-2015 02:04 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  As a NYC male, this shit concerns me I guess, so let me chime in with my 2 cents.

First off - the title of this thread is right - there is a shortage of "Alpha" men. And Women in this city live by the rule that I laid out on a blog post last year - (apologies for the self promotion, but this is relevant) - If you're a guy - you are either the shit, or you dont exist.

Invisible men are, by defacto, invisible.

Where are these "dating statisticians" when every single bar I go to, in every single neighborhood I go to, is always, without exception a sausage fest?

My conclusion is that either their data is fucked up and selective, OR, and I feel sorry to say this - the situation is worse everywhere else in the country. I had a friend from out of town be openly jealous of the sausagefest bar I took him to.

But hey, at least this article hints at personal responsibility, so it aint all bad.


EDIT: want to know why NYC dating is so frustrating? On the one hand - women post stuff like this, and it becomes a huge "why cant girls like us find love in the big city" circle jerk.
On the other hand - you get articles like this - Gay people complaining that there are too many straight women at gay bars.

Great article man, I just bookmarked your blog.
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1. Feminism
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(08-25-2015 01:42 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  link
Quote:You’re too religious

Consider dating a nonbeliever, even if it makes your grandma cry into her meat sauce.
“People who leave organized religion are disproportionately male,” Birger says. “Atheists and agnostics are also disproportionately male. An atheist meet-up would be a really good place to meet men.”
Um, a religious person should marry a religious person. An atheist man wont want kids.
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The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

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It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.
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It's obviously cold outside over there.
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Way more than 4 times. I can see many more men in the background, and just one other chick.

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(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

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It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

What I see is 4 men wearing messenger bags(male purses) and a woman wearing a blue dress(a traditional male color).

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(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

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It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

What I see is 4 men wearing messenger bags(male purses) and a woman wearing a blue dress(a traditional male color).

And the decision to shoot it from a low angle, so that the men look much shorter than the woman.

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Cute girl dressed well standing forward of 4 total beta schlubs. For fucks's sake one of them is wearing flip flops with long pants. What the fuck.

8 real reasons girls are single:

1.) They want to be. Women rather bounce from dick to dick in their 20's to "find themselves" and experiment, as they have been told to do. Life's too short to settle down, right? Why waste your youth on a man when you can experience a fun and interesting life of working behind a desk and going to bars with your friends?

2.) Too many perceived options. Women have been fed a grass-is-greener outlook on dating as a result of women's empowerment mixed with social media and online dating. They think the best guy for them is always around the corner so they have no loyalty, honor, or respect for committed relationships, which makes them a complete romantic liability and wholly undateable. It is not a man's job to "lockdown" a woman - society has tried to flip this script.

3.) They are unpleasant. Snarky, sarcastic, bitchy attitudes are being confused for being funny, endearing, and "cool." This is wrong. Men don't want "tough" and abrasive women. It's not cute.

4.) Too masculine. Women think it's cool now to act like men. Being a sports buff, slamming liquor and beers, and generally being "one of the guys" makes a dude's dick shrink faster than something that shrinks really fast. If we wanted to date dudes then we'd be gay. We want that yin and yang.

5.) You are obsessed with your careers and think your resume matters to men. We don't care about your 4 years at NYU majoring in who-gives-a-shit. We don't care about your study abroad program where you slept with a dozen random foreign men in Western Europe. We don't care about the non-profit you work at in the inner city. We are men not recruiters. We are impressed by how well you treat us, how sweet kind and sexy you are, how reliable and faithful you are to the relationship, how you take care of yourself, and how you act around our friends and family. Your financial and professional success is not something that impresses us romantically about you.

6.) You don't know how to be feminine. Despite what women's liberation and 3rd-wave feminism has taught you - men want women who can cook and clean. We want women who know how to dress and look beautiful and graceful. We want women who know how to act in public. We wan women who know how to stand behind a man and be "in his corner."

7.) You are fat. Average women are just not attractive because they are overweight. Lose weight.

8.) You think too highly of yourself and make it seem like the world is out to get you. Healthy self-esteem and a positive personal outlook is great, but we live in a culture that is constantly telling women to pat themselves on the back - and that every man is going to rape you. Humble yourself and become a little more socially well adjusted. Men don't dig women with inflated egos, and we certainly don't dig women with baggage and a victim mentality.
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Still, WROFTMTFRIGTLHFINYC. (Would Relieve Of Fear That Male To Female Ratio Is Going To Leave Her Fuckless In New York City)
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(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

Jordan

It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

What I see is 4 men wearing messenger bags(male purses) and a woman wearing a blue dress(a traditional male color).

Venturing briefly off topic since I was looking at this matter a few days ago.
How the hell is a guy on foot supposed to be carrying things (documents, tablet, laptop, whatever) around without either using a messenger bag (which some men, possibly women as well, still consider "gay"), a backpack (even a nice leather backpack is likely to make you look like a tourist or backpacker, or just a bit of a dork) or a briefcase (only really works for people who are suited up for work)?

I'm looking into messenger bags at the moment. Seems like the over all best option out of several bad ones. So far I've usually been using a casual gym style backpack or duffel bag when I need to bring something with me around town, but it looks even more casual and touristy in my opinion (or if you're lucky, like you might actually be on the way to or from the gym, but not so much if you're strolling around with them in a mall or on the way to a café).
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(08-27-2015 09:02 AM)MikeS Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

Jordan

It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

What I see is 4 men wearing messenger bags(male purses) and a woman wearing a blue dress(a traditional male color).

Venturing briefly off topic since I was looking at this matter a few days ago.
How the hell is a guy on foot supposed to be carrying things (documents, tablet, laptop, whatever) around without either using a messenger bag (which some men, possibly women as well, still consider "gay"), a backpack (even a nice leather backpack is likely to make you look like a tourist or backpacker, or just a bit of a dork) or a briefcase (only really works for people who are suited up for work)?

I'm looking into messenger bags at the moment. Seems like the over all best option out of several bad ones. So far I've usually been using a casual gym style backpack or duffel bag when I need to bring something with me around town, but it looks even more casual and touristy in my opinion (or if you're lucky, like you might actually be on the way to or from the gym, but not so much if you're strolling around with them in a mall or on the way to a café).

I've actually thought long and hard(excuse the pun) about this issue.

Here's what it is. In a city like NY status is everything. So a man carrying a messenger bag, laptop backpack or similar is seen as "working class" or gay. The true alphas of the city don't need to carry anything. They wander the city in nice suits with nothing but a big gangster roll of cash in their front pocket.

Women fill their purses with things to handle many different situations because they never know when they'll need something. So when you're carrying a bag full of crap you're emulating a female. ie.....big turn off.

When men need something they just whip out some cash and buy it.

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^ Back to hunter gatherer days. Even today traditional tribes in New Guinea and elsewhere find what they need in the forest: food, water, fire, shelter; all of these can be acquired quickly if you know where to look, eliminating the need for water bottles, protein bars, etc.

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(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

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It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

I don't see any real "men" in the photo. Unfortunately many of the younger generation of men dress like the faggots in the background. I've heard guys at my workplace in Los Angeles talk about shit women like like "The Bachelor" and whether Pitch Perfect 1 is better than Pitch Perfect 2.

One of the guys in my office is from LA and he's moving to NYC to live with his fiancé (he met her when he was working in NYC a couple of years ago). I asked him if his fiancé would ever move to LA to be with him - his answer was "no way, she hates LA". Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't your future wife follow you to the ends of the Earth? I can already see who wears the trousers in the relationship...
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(08-27-2015 09:41 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 09:02 AM)MikeS Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  The "men" in the pic at the top of the article.

[Image: single_main1a.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1]

Jordan

It's telling of the situation that the picture used to emphasize a shortage of men has 4 times as many "men" in it as women.

What I see is 4 men wearing messenger bags(male purses) and a woman wearing a blue dress(a traditional male color).

Venturing briefly off topic since I was looking at this matter a few days ago.
How the hell is a guy on foot supposed to be carrying things (documents, tablet, laptop, whatever) around without either using a messenger bag (which some men, possibly women as well, still consider "gay"), a backpack (even a nice leather backpack is likely to make you look like a tourist or backpacker, or just a bit of a dork) or a briefcase (only really works for people who are suited up for work)?

I'm looking into messenger bags at the moment. Seems like the over all best option out of several bad ones. So far I've usually been using a casual gym style backpack or duffel bag when I need to bring something with me around town, but it looks even more casual and touristy in my opinion (or if you're lucky, like you might actually be on the way to or from the gym, but not so much if you're strolling around with them in a mall or on the way to a café).

I've actually thought long and hard(excuse the pun) about this issue.

Here's what it is. In a city like NY status is everything. So a man carrying a messenger bag, laptop backpack or similar is seen as "working class" or gay. The true alphas of the city don't need to carry anything. They wander the city in nice suits with nothing but a big gangster roll of cash in their front pocket.

Women fill their purses with things to handle many different situations because they never know when they'll need something. So when you're carrying a bag full of crap you're emulating a female. ie.....big turn off.

When men need something they just whip out some cash and buy it.

All well and good. But unfortunately not an attitude that's realistic in all situations, perhaps unless you do happen to be among that 0.5% NY elite (not one of my lifetime goals). I don't need to carry stuff around with me - that can't fit in my pockets - on a daily basis, but sometimes I do have paperwork or other things that "can't be bought on the way".

I'm also never going to be the every day suit wearing type (working on my laptop at home in jeans or something even more casual and then donning a suit when I decide to go downtown for a stroll or a coffee or to buy my groceries is trying just a bit too hard from my perspective), so I guess that's another nail in the coffin for my alpha fashion style.
Not that I live in a city where I'm competing all that hard against most men's daytime fashion.

Never mind, maybe a man purse topic in the lifestyle forum.
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RE: NY Post article a shortage of (alpha) Men
(08-25-2015 01:55 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  (...)

The grand irony of all is that these women have a limited window to even lock down a quality man. At 22 they are hotter than they will be at 25. At 28, the underwater sonic music is playing before the wall hits.

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