Post: #76

I'm moving to Bucharest in August and I can't fucking wait. Romanian girls are hot and very down to earth. I'll be there for two years so wouldn't be entirely surprised if I met my future wife there. The quality compared to Scotland is unbelievable. Bucharest is a great city too - not touristy at all (which is good for foreign guys) and a bit overwhelming for some first time visitors but a lot of fun. Unfortunately for me I look like a lot of Romanian guys - I'm pretty short (5'8"), dark-haired and swarthy - not a typical Scottish look at all, but I'm still determined to do as much damage as possible in my 2 years there. Cluj-Napoca in Transylvania is a brilliant smaller city, full of amazingly hot 18-24 year old students, and I'm going to use any long weekends to hit up other cities in Romania and surrounding countries. I'll keep you guys posted as to how I'm getting on.

Post: #77

+1 on Cluj, recommended

Bucharest - gotta love the stray dogs

Post: #78

Myself I am Italian and I have been in DC about a decade. While there is an advantage to be italian (latino like) in america, the exotic factor provides an advantage with middle class girls, in europe is more fashionable to be Californian other than American.

People look at California like the land of the American Dream...Holliwood...Bay Watch...Apple...Silicon Valley...easy money...blonde girls everywhere...

If you ask people where microsoft is, most people in europe would say California, next to Pamela Anderson house.

Try to say one time you are from Kansas City, the other time from San Diego or LA. You will see a completely different response. Unlikely they have been to Cali, so they cannot test your true Cali spirit.

This factor is likely to be "a plus" regarding the success of our SF colleague in Bucharest, and should work across Europe.

Good luck. I have never been to eastern europe, but eastern european women in america are more fun than americans.

ErCocco

Post: #79

Hiya . . .

I'm headed to Romania (first time) in a month and will be traveling there for 2.5 weeks. I'm looking to see and do as much as I can, and preferably with lots of local female company. It's heartening to hear that lots of Romanian women are good to approach and up for more things.

About myself, which I'm using as a basis for an appraisal of my chances to score with the local women.

1. 39 years old, white
2. 6' 1", athletic build and keep myself in good shape
3. a bit thin on top (though I keep my hair short where it isn't noticeable) with some splashes of gray hair on the sides
4. kind of a reserved type (once you get to know me, I seem more open), open-minded, not afraid to express his sexuality and desires, dry sense of humor, gentlemanly
5. well-traveled: 22 US states, Canada, Germany, Italy, Malta, Greece, Switzerland, Austria, UK, and Korea
6. taught English in Korea for close to two years, so know what it's like to live in a foreign country outside of a North American bubble
7. former military, but you wouldn't know it by talking with me
8. intellectual and cultured type with a strong interest in art, classical music, and the "finer things" -- but I can also discourse on more pedestrian things like pop culture
9. killer smile (so I've been told) and have rather masculine features, with dark and penetrating eyes
10. have a smattering of French, German, Spanish, Italian, and am studying Romanian in preparation for my trip.

I'm not going to stay in Bucharest for the entire time, but am also travling to Cluj, Sibiu, Braşov, and Constanţa and the Black Sea coast.

So, that's all for now. I should think that I have a better than average chance in scoring with the local women in all places. But, I'm concerned about my age. I've been told that I look like mid-30s and that's fine. I'm also not terribly interested in the under-25 crowd (but won't turn down pussy from that bracket if offered). Rather, I choose to focus on the 25-35 age range.

Thoughts?

Post: #80

"But, I'm concerned about my age."

Don't be.

It is only an issue if you make it one.

Post: #81

(08-23-2011 08:56 PM)phildeecee Wrote:  About myself, which I'm using as a basis for an appraisal of my chances to score with the local women.

You listed points which have no significant relevance, which mostly are about looks. They matter even less in Europe than they do in US, and unless you're morbidly obese, you have nothing to worry about. Being tall will give you some advantage (most locals are short), but unless you have your shit together it will bring you nothing.

So, down to relevant stuff:
- How do you dress? This is important in Europe. Not as much as in Russia, but much more than in US, especially at West Coast.
- How good is your game in general?
- How good are you at approaching groups and isolation? You'll score very little (or nothing at all) if you are not.
- Are you going to stay in hotels or you gonna rent an apartment? Staying in hotel will basically kill your chance to bring a girl to your room.
- How comfortable are you with smoking? A LOT of girls there smoke, and most bars/clubs are smoking.

Quote:5. well-traveled: 22 US states, Canada, Germany, Italy, Malta, Greece, Switzerland, Austria, UK, and Korea

Forget about European countries; an average Romanian chick visited more of them than you did (from their typical to-be list you're already missing Bulgaria, France and Netherlands). Talk about US, Canada and Korea, this is more relevant to them.

Quote:10. have a smattering of French, German, Spanish, Italian, and am studying Romanian in preparation for my trip.

You are not going to be seen as local anyway, and vast majority of Romanians speak very good English, so if you're there for 2.5 weeks, you're wasting your time.

Quote:I'm not going to stay in Bucharest for the entire time, but am also travling to Cluj, Sibiu, Braşov, and Constanţa and the Black Sea coast.

That's a lot to cover in 2.5 weeks. Are you gonna fly, drive or take a train?

Quote:So, that's all for now. I should think that I have a better than average chance in scoring with the local women in all places. But, I'm concerned about my age.

Your age is not a problem. See above what may be a problem.

Post: #82

Answers to your questions:

1. I tend to dress conservatively, which includes polo shirts, nice pants, suits, ties, etc. T-shirts, too, but usually solid color or minimal designs/decoration. If warm, shorts, but not too much. Classy jeans, etc.

In short, "ostentatious" is not in my active vocabulary when it comes to dress.

2. My game is so-so. Just started some months ago and have had some success with older women here in the US. Haven't done much with younger women as I mentioned that wasn't really my age range to start off with. I've also had my fair share of flakes and weirdos with American women, and still trying to deal with that.

3. Isolated approaching is good provided that I get good vibes, eye contact, and smiles from the women that I care to approach. This happens rarely, though, as I'm not in places where there are decent-looking women who are receptive to being approached. I've rarely approached in groups.

That being said, I have done this before in the past, but not in the US. Had a lot of success then. Seems like American women are really a challenge, for the most part.

4. I guess that getting an apartment is the preferable way to go, with hostels as a standby. I prefer CouchSurfing, however, with local females. Message them and ask for a local guide to show me around and have coffee or drinks with.

As for the girls via CouchSurfing for dates, wouldn't they be amenable for a bang and a sleepover, anyway?

5. I don't smoke, but can stand to be around smokers. If the girl smokes, that's not a dealbreaker. Ugly and horrible attitude are definitely dealbreakers.

6. I forgot to mention France and Netherlands in my original list. Probably nothing spectacular, then. I also forgot to mention that I have some Romanian heritage in my family.

7. So, knowing even just a little Romanian isn't worth anything? That wasn't the case for me in France and Germany, where people warmed up to me much better when I spoke just a few words and phrases. And, Euros usually took me to be a local when they came up to me and started speaking in French, German, etc. I seem to be able to blend in well and not call attention to myself. I certainly don't go about advertising the fact that I'm American and could probably pass for Canadian if I really wanted to lie.

And, I'm originally from the Midwest, currently living in DC.

8. I plan to fly to Cluj from Bucharest, the take the train or bus to the other cities. If possible, I'd like to try hitchhiking at least once.

Post: #83

Two other questions:

Others have said that being an American is an advantage in Romania and Bulgaria and, if so, all the better. However, what's the best way to use this to full advantage (the "novelty factor" or the "exotic factor") without coming across as a boorish American? I mentioned that I'm an intellectual and cultured type and dress conservatively, and it's been my experience that that takes me a long way instead of coming across as the typical American (especially male) that doesn't seem to have a clue about how NOT to make himself stand out as an idiot. Trust me, I saw this quite often when I was traveling in Europe and always did my best to avoid this.

2. Okay, so many Romanians speak good English and so I won't be hard up in initiating and maintaining a conversation in English with a woman. But, what's a good conversational cadence? That is, what's the best way to talk with Romanian women that doesn't come across as threatening or silly? I'm thinking that I could play up the "tourist" thing a little bit and get them talking about the country, their city, and especially themselves, without saying much and just taking it all in. And, as for the US, what are they most interested in? Not being from California, I don't think I can use this "exotic factor." I know the Midwest and DC (hopefully planting the seeds in them for visiting me if they were to come here), and some of the South.

3. Where's a good place to get a really cheap cell phone to use while I'm in the country? Any places for used ones?

Post: #84

@phildeecee, it looks like you better forget about learning Romanian and focus on your game. Remember, you are at disadvantage in foreign lands as you'd have to work against the assumption you're sex tourist looking for a quick fuck. So gaming foreign chicks will be harder for you until you get some experience.

Quote:2. My game is so-so. Just started some months ago and have had some success with older women here in the US.

Sorry for being too direct, but this is not very impressive. You can't rely on this kind of game in Romania.

Quote:3. Isolated approaching is good provided that I get good vibes, eye contact, and smiles from the women that I care to approach. This happens rarely, though, as I'm not in places where there are decent-looking women who are receptive to being approached. I've rarely approached in groups.

Same as above, looks like you're running kind of passive game I've been doing recently. It does not work in Romania. Girls will NOT approach you, and nobody will invite you in a group. You'll have to do approaching and DHV. Note that girls there are usually out in groups, and they hang out together and having fun - they're not just sitting there waiting for an handsome dude to appear so they'd jump on him. You have to inject yourself in a group, DHV, build attraction, qualify and isolate - and you'll receive very little help/encouragement while doing so. Do not expect the kind of feedback you're getting from American chicks.

Quote:That being said, I have done this before in the past, but not in the US. Had a lot of success then. Seems like American women are really a challenge, for the most part.

If you're American and you think American women are a challenge, then it gonna be quite difficult.

Quote:As for the girls via CouchSurfing for dates, wouldn't they be amenable for a bang and a sleepover, anyway?

This may work, but from the pictures posted in this thread the girls seem to be quite ugly. I wouldn't bang them.

Quote:5. I don't smoke, but can stand to be around smokers. If the girl smokes, that's not a dealbreaker. Ugly and horrible attitude are definitely dealbreakers.

Thing is, all your clothes gonna smell tobacco. Also girls smoke, but they don't really use gum, so a lot have smoke breath.

Quote:7. So, knowing even just a little Romanian isn't worth anything?

No. You have other areas to improve, where the improvement will give you much larger bonus. English is really spoken there.

Quote:8. I plan to fly to Cluj from Bucharest, the take the train or bus to the other cities. If possible, I'd like to try hitchhiking at least once.

Brasov/Constanta are near Bucharest, don't go there from Cluj

Post: #85

Any other sites instead of couchsurfing to meet romanian or bulgarian girls in advance ??? (like ukrainedate.com for ukraine), to have something going on before landing there .... anyone??? ....

Post: #86

Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

Post: #87

^ That was reality. Are you suggesting it was staged?
ANyway... very typical of EE nightlife. Tall hot skinny girls in short skirts. Very reserved with a hint of attitude.

Post: #88

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

From all my times in Romania, this YouTube posting is standard for what you'll see in Romania. Nothing special here.

Post: #89

You´re kidding right? That´s not normal. Usually you do witness ugly girls. But that was a constant flow of 7-8 walking by, where couple of them girls were solid 9.

If that so. Then how come Ukraine is sooo much of a popular destination than Romania? Are Romanians more western? Due to their latin heritage?

Post: #90

(09-22-2011 04:50 PM)DaDa Wrote:  You´re kidding right? That´s not normal. Usually you do witness ugly girls. But that was a constant flow of 7-8 walking by, where couple of them girls were solid 9.

If that so. Then how come Ukraine is sooo much of a popular destination than Romania? Are Romanians more western? Due to their latin heritage?

Not kidding. Quite a few of the women walking by, you couldn't see their faces. But yes, that is a rather normal scene in Romania. Never been to Ukraine so I can't speak to it.

Obviously, every Romanian women is not beautiful, but Romania has more than it's fair share. Bagging one is not the easiest but they are very friendly.

Post: #91

(07-06-2011 03:52 AM)alchemist Wrote:  I'm moving to Bucharest in August and I can't fucking wait. Romanian girls are hot and very down to earth. I'll be there for two years so wouldn't be entirely surprised if I met my future wife there. The quality compared to Scotland is unbelievable. Bucharest is a great city too - not touristy at all (which is good for foreign guys) and a bit overwhelming for some first time visitors but a lot of fun. Unfortunately for me I look like a lot of Romanian guys - I'm pretty short (5'8"), dark-haired and swarthy - not a typical Scottish look at all, but I'm still determined to do as much damage as possible in my 2 years there. Cluj-Napoca in Transylvania is a brilliant smaller city, full of amazingly hot 18-24 year old students, and I'm going to use any long weekends to hit up other cities in Romania and surrounding countries. I'll keep you guys posted as to how I'm getting on.

You should give a better rule to measure up the place. Anybody in europe compared to brits and Irish will be of much stronger quality.

Scotland is a place I'd almost cry if I think of.

Post: #92

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Post: #93

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Depends what one is attracted to. They look normal to me as they are all dark haired (their blondes are fake usually) and more often in the short side.

Post: #94

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Watch the whole clip.

Like any big city? Dude, I´ve been to Buenos aires, Toronto, Paris, NY, Barcelona, Amsterdam, and I live in so called the country with the hottest girls. Sweden, and I´d never witness a a street with so many 7-8 passing by. I do believe that the ratio of beauty is highest in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. So I´m sorry buddy. "This spot is not ordinary", otherwise - this world would have been perfect.

Post: #95

(09-23-2011 01:04 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Watch the whole clip.

Like any big city? Dude, I´ve been to Buenos aires, Toronto, Paris, NY, Barcelona, Amsterdam, and I live in so called the country with the hottest girls. Sweden, and I´d never witness a a street with so many 7-8 passing by. I do believe that the ratio of beauty is highest in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. So I´m sorry buddy. "This spot is not ordinary", otherwise - this world would have been perfect.

You said so, Eastern europe. In Ukraine and russia there are far more diversity. over 80% of romanian girls are dark haired and usually on the short side, they are more latin looking and thus less diverse than countries like ukraine or russia.

Post: #96

(09-23-2011 01:12 PM)Clockwork_Orange Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:04 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Watch the whole clip.

Like any big city? Dude, I´ve been to Buenos aires, Toronto, Paris, NY, Barcelona, Amsterdam, and I live in so called the country with the hottest girls. Sweden, and I´d never witness a a street with so many 7-8 passing by. I do believe that the ratio of beauty is highest in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. So I´m sorry buddy. "This spot is not ordinary", otherwise - this world would have been perfect.

You said so, Eastern europe. In Ukraine and russia there are far more diversity. over 80% of romanian girls are dark haired and usually on the short side, they are more latin looking and thus less diverse than countries like ukraine or russia.

I really don´t give damn if a girl is blonde, ginger or brunette. If she´s beautiful, then she is beautiful.

Latin looking? My friend who´s Romanian stated that Inna and Alexandra Stan look very Romanian(and they´re average). And in my opinion they look far more slavic than latin(italian, spaniard, french or portugese).

Post: #97

(09-23-2011 01:35 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:12 PM)Clockwork_Orange Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:04 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 03:11 PM)DaDa Wrote:  Just found this clip on YT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4pYdZfTOg
Those who´ve been there. Romania, how much of this portrays reality?

What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Watch the whole clip.

Like any big city? Dude, I´ve been to Buenos aires, Toronto, Paris, NY, Barcelona, Amsterdam, and I live in so called the country with the hottest girls. Sweden, and I´d never witness a a street with so many 7-8 passing by. I do believe that the ratio of beauty is highest in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. So I´m sorry buddy. "This spot is not ordinary", otherwise - this world would have been perfect.

You said so, Eastern europe. In Ukraine and russia there are far more diversity. over 80% of romanian girls are dark haired and usually on the short side, they are more latin looking and thus less diverse than countries like ukraine or russia.

I really don´t give damn if a girl is blonde, ginger or brunette. If she´s beautiful, then she is beautiful.

Latin looking? My friend who´s Romanian stated that Inna and Alexandra Stan look very Romanian(and they´re average). And in my opinion they look far more slavic than latin(italian, spaniard, french or portugese).

Yet they dont look like ukranians or russian, except for northern romanians who resemble more moldovans and ukranians.

Post: #98

(09-23-2011 01:41 PM)Clockwork_Orange Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:35 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:12 PM)Clockwork_Orange Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 01:04 PM)DaDa Wrote:  

(09-23-2011 11:52 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  What's the big deal? I only saw the first two minutes of it. But, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Go to any big city in the summer and you will see the same kind of quality.

Watch the whole clip.

Like any big city? Dude, I´ve been to Buenos aires, Toronto, Paris, NY, Barcelona, Amsterdam, and I live in so called the country with the hottest girls. Sweden, and I´d never witness a a street with so many 7-8 passing by. I do believe that the ratio of beauty is highest in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia. So I´m sorry buddy. "This spot is not ordinary", otherwise - this world would have been perfect.

You said so, Eastern europe. In Ukraine and russia there are far more diversity. over 80% of romanian girls are dark haired and usually on the short side, they are more latin looking and thus less diverse than countries like ukraine or russia.

I really don´t give damn if a girl is blonde, ginger or brunette. If she´s beautiful, then she is beautiful.

Latin looking? My friend who´s Romanian stated that Inna and Alexandra Stan look very Romanian(and they´re average). And in my opinion they look far more slavic than latin(italian, spaniard, french or portugese).

Yet they dont look like ukranians or russian, except for northern romanians who resemble more moldovans and ukranians.

No. I didn´t say they look like Ukrainians or Russians, they have a look of their own.

Post: #99

Romanian experts - I am running solo in Bucharest and have found this to be a challenge. As stated before the old town is crawling with people but all in groups that are tough to crack. the girls i have met seem to be on the conservative side (either don't drink or have a single drink ---have put me on at least a 3 date rule). The OP seemed to paint an entirely different picture. Romanians (not just girls) really like people from the US. I feel I could yield positive results if here for a month but 6 days seems like a waste of energy. I started in Cluj (arrrived one week before school - nice mess up on my part) and have worked my way down. Would the recomendation be to ditch Bucharest and perhaps head to Slovenia or other? I certainly agree the girls are very nice here but the city is a bit on the depressing side for me. i would prefer to move on and use these days elsewhere if nobody has any inspriing words of wisdown. Once again, i feel i could do 10 times better if rolling with a crew of people but solo seems to be an uphill climb. Thanks for any suggestions.

Post: #100

(10-04-2011 08:37 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  Romanian experts - I am running solo in Bucharest and have found this to be a challenge. As stated before the old town is crawling with people but all in groups that are tough to crack.

What do you mean by "tough to crack?" Did you approach any of them? As I said, if you're not experienced in approaching groups, you will not have any success at night. Girls are always in groups, and none of them will approach you unless you're doing something really cool - but in this case you shouldn't have problem approaching groups anyway.