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Date Lab: "Alpha male" Fat Shames Fattie
I haven't seen a date lab report in a while, but I like to read through the old ones every few months. Lately it's been all lesbians and gay guys, but this one from early August is kinda funny.

Apparently he's pretty into fitness, and realized a fattie would be bad match. Of course a fattie wouldn't really be a good match for anyone. Here's a pic, she's not obese yet, but I'd be pissed if I ended up on a blind date with her.

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He breaks it down pretty easily, letting her know that "I’ll just be brutally honest here. ... She is just not the body type that I would ever ask out. I mean, if I’m dating someone, I like to be able to go on a jog with them or stay physically active... There was no wow factor."

Comments try to shit one him, but she is fat, and at 28 she's only going to blown up more. Luckily she lives in DC though, so I'm sure she'll lock-down some chode in five years.

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08-24-2015 08:01 AM
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He ain't got time for projects, huh? If the two of them worked out together she'd slim down to an acceptable level.
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RE: Date Lab: "Alpha male" Fat Shames Fattie
Dude is not even remotely good looking, if she was skinny he wouldnt have a chance with her, and does he even lift for all his sports talk?
Assuming that everything written in the article is true, he is trying too hard and she didnt seem like a bitch.
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She's a beautiful girl? Yeh right

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The guy felt compelled to state "I'm an alpha." Also showed up in a t-shirt. A great Date Lab read all around for sure.
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Quote:Rate the date
Sarah: A solid 4-plus. Right now I’m leaning toward friends, but you just never know.

Whatever the actual ratings, the guy is objectively 1-2 points more attractive than her, the date was almost perfect, and she still wants to put him in the friendzone.

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So...she can approve of his height and that's fine, no complaining. But him disapproving her body type draws nothing but ire from commentators. And very conspicuously there is no full body shot presented in the article. Hmmm.
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(08-24-2015 09:04 AM)dog24 Wrote:  Dude is not even remotely good looking, if she was skinny he wouldnt have a chance with her, and does he even lift for all his sports talk?

He's obviously a runner, which may explain why he looks a hell of a lot older than 32.

There were a number of contradicting statements made by the two people.

The guy called her beautiful, yet stated if he had seen her on the street, he wouldn't have approached her to ask her out because she wasn't his body type.

She gave the date a 4-plus, but at best saw him as a buddy she'd have beers with.

In the end, they never spoke again.

I hate when people can't keep it 100, there's nothing wrong with not feeling somebody, it happens all the damn time.
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I think she puts him in the 'friend zone' because she knows he's not into her.

By giving the date a '4-plus' she's saying that she's interested, but by saying they should be friends is an indication she knows it ain't happening. If she really wasn't interested, she'd give it a lower rating.

Either way, of course all the comments are about his supposed 'body shaming'. Not being attracted to a fat woman, and even stating so in a benign manner as this guy did, is now considered heresy.

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I think the whole premise of DateLab acts as a soft cockblock because all girls need plausible deniability to engage in slutty behavior. Some girls from conservative cultures don't even want to kiss in public because it would be shameful, yet are perfectly ready to engage in hanky panky behind closed doors. So I would take all these DL "failures" with a grain of salt: unless the two people are highly into each other, odds are, nothing is going to happen. If you can't really put moves on a girl without it being known to the general public, of course it's going to end up friend shit.

That being said, she has the typical DC white girl look. Uninspiring for sure. Neither of them have any fashion sense whatsoever. Dude seems lame however. Anyone who says "I'm an alpha" is someone I would never want to hang out with. He's full of conventional thinking and beliefs. She seemed sweet (but chunky), and he seemed like an idiot, frankly, two degrees (yawn) notwithstanding. WNITRVFM (would not invite to RVF meetup).
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(08-24-2015 09:39 AM)jariel Wrote:  He's obviously a runner, which may explain why he looks a hell of a lot older than 32.

There were a number of contradicting statements made by the two people.

The guy called her beautiful, yet stated if he had seen her on the street, he wouldn't have approached her to ask her out because she wasn't his body type.

She gave the date a 4-plus, but at best saw him as a buddy she'd have beers with.

In the end, they never spoke again.

I hate when people can't keep it 100, there's nothing wrong with not feeling somebody, it happens all the damn time.
This is a blind date not a tinder date where he got catfished, why did he feel the need to say she's not the type of girl i would approach on the street?
Like i said he was trying too hard, the fact that the first thing he does is call himself an alpha male should give you an idea of the attitude on this guy.
I didnt see the girl doing anything wrong other than being fat, and since we are all about self improvement in here and not just hating women for no reason why dont we call it like it is. Dude doesn't have the looks to pull a hot girl neither the game needed, but he sure showed everyone how mature he is.
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Quote:She was two minutes early. I was 22 minutes early. I’m an alpha. I wanted to be there first. ..

If the first thing you state is you're Alpha....you probably aren't.

Quote:I probably would have been better with a button-down and jacket. She was dressed up since she was working. ... But if I’m going to meet somebody I prefer to be comfortable.

Ok ?

Quote: I was attracted to her. I mean, she’s a beautiful girl. But she isn’t someone, if I saw out, I would be attracted enough to ask her out to see if the chemistry was there. ... There was no wow factor. And I’m sure she probably feels the same way. So don’t let me sound like some chauvinistic pig or something, okay?

Lot's of hamstering here.

The duded looks ALOT older than 32, I wouldn't say he's ugly but doesn't seem so "alpha male" as he claims to be.

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Reading the transcript, all I get is that the guy is trying WAY too hard to sound cool ("I love PA sports, brahhhhhh!") and the woman is just pretty...humble. Nothing special, but very down-to-earth, ESPECIALLY for DC. I don't like either of them, but she sounds much more tolerable than he does. Plus, he looks like a cartoon character.

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RE: Date Lab: "Alpha male" Fat Shames Fattie
- Four years apart: At least they didn't do the asinine thing they always do and get two people of the same age, or even the girl being a year or two older.

- Being 'Alpha' is like being 'Cool' - It should be self evident therefore you shouldn't have to say it. Alpha Cred - 1500.

- Also, an 'Alpha' wouldn't arrive early; he'd get there ten minutes late. This is game 101 here, 'Alpha'...tard

- He comes across as a smarmy, self-involved douchebag in almost every answer.

- She uses way too many filler words - Like, totally! (behold, the Western Woman!)

Quote:I was attracted to her. I mean, she’s a beautiful girl. But she isn’t someone, if I saw out, I would be attracted enough to ask her out to see if the chemistry was there. ... There was no wow factor. And I’m sure she probably feels the same way. So don’t let me sound like some chauvinistic pig or something, okay?

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- 'Alpha' tip for you: An Alpha wouldn't give two fucks how he was portrayed.

Quote:Sarah: A solid 4-plus. Right now I’m leaning toward friends, but you just never know.

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Sarah: I just see [us] more really friends than anything else, and I think he’s probably on the same page. I would totally hang out with him again over a beer.

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A '4+' date is not 'maybe we could be friends!', a 4+ date is or at least should be a potential relationship partner...but this is broadcast in a very public way so we can't say 'He was a douchebag throughout, 1.5/5!' because feelings.

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Yeah, sure, it's easy to pick on her for being a fatty and talking like an idiot (read: the average American female)...but at least she seemed down-to-earth and open. I can't really find any egregious personality violations with her (though contrary to what the commenters attest - she is certainly not 'beautiful' or 'a catch').

He reads like the type of guy who 'scored mad chicks in college' and afterwards struggled...but then he read The Game and negged and peacocked his way into a few bangs with drunk chicks at bars. A total chode who sounds like a 20-year-old dickweed but he's older than I am. I sometimes feel that we're too quick here to say 'Oh, but she's fat so herp derp!' and not go after guys for their weak and suspect game.

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As others have already mentioned, any guy who claims to be alpha is anything but alpha. He sounds like a guy that just discovered game, realized he's slightly above the average guy, so he declares himself king of the hill. Because he's just come to this revelation, he feels the need to share it with everyone. Lots of hamster with this one. From the way he talks about his attire of the evening to his confusion at her passing the boner test.

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I always find myself checking these datelab threads to see if I've banged the girl since the last one...

Guess lightning doesn't strike twice. Amuse

Guy needs to get over himself and seems the opposite of "alpha" here. Girl does seem a bit thick (even upon review of FB) but could improve to a DC 6 if she lost some weight.

My best guess is he didn't build any attraction (hence the friendzone) and he tried to save face by claiming he wouldn't date a girl like her. But you can't do that once you've already called her attractive and beautiful.

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(08-25-2015 05:19 AM)Gmac Wrote:  I always find myself checking these datelab threads to see if I've banged the girl since the last one...

Guess lightning doesn't strike twice. Amuse

Guy needs to get over himself and seems the opposite of "alpha" here. Girl does seem a bit thick (even upon review of FB) but could improve to a DC 6 if she lost some weight.

My best guess is he didn't build any attraction (hence the friendzone) and he tried to save face by claiming he wouldn't date a girl like her. But you can't do that once you've already called her attractive and beautiful.

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Yeah, I only included the "alpha" because he said it. I'm not a big fan of the whole "alpha" vs "beta" thing, but I would consider proclaiming yourself to be "alpha" to be pretty much the opposite of what I consider it to be.

I'm not sure if he could've banged her, but I didn't take the "beautiful" and "attractive" comments to be serious. It seemed like he knew the commenters would tear him apart, and was trying to placate them.

Which again is kinda far from what I would consider to be "alpha", either say what you mean or don't, but don't be a bitch about it.
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(08-24-2015 09:25 AM)Benoit Wrote:  
Quote:Rate the date
Sarah: A solid 4-plus. Right now I’m leaning toward friends, but you just never know.

Whatever the actual ratings, the guy is objectively 1-2 points more attractive than her, the date was almost perfect, and she still wants to put him in the friendzone.

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Notice, she's setting up an actual friendzone situation - one where she's dangling the pussy to keep the guy interested. By saying, "but you just never know," she's actively teasing the idea of sex to keep him in her orbit.

The friendzone isn't just a girl who wants to be friends - guys would quickly lose interest and move on...or the girl would have to bring some serious value to the friendship (which is usually too much work for them). The friendzone requires the girl to drop hints of "something more" every time she senses he's about to leave.
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(08-24-2015 09:39 AM)jariel Wrote:  He's obviously a runner, which may explain why he looks a hell of a lot older than 32.

Thanks, jariel, I'd never heard of "runner's face." Most of the results in google are about denying it. RVF doesn't seem to have discussed it.
The phenomenon deserves its own thread, if anyone has more detail.
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Lol at him thinking being early for a date is "alpha".

Also is there a full body pic of her? She looks like she may be on the border line.
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Wow, first time I've heard of this runner's face phenomenon. Interesting... I thought many scientists argue that humans are good at running, and are supposed to do it often.
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Yeah she's pretty fat, wearing black can't hide it. WNB

And to all the haters, there's nothing wrong with running. You guys gotta get over that nonsense.

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