Post: #801

Maybe cause your foreign and the girls you're meeting online are looking for a specific niche to lock on? Put an Asian guy in Vietnam my gut says he will have a totally different experience. Generalizing an entire country based off a few select interactions with some gold diggers is very strawman like.

I know because my foreign acquaintances attract a completely type of girl than I have access to. Completely different worlds.

As said many times before, a select group of 10,000 girls on DIA / VC does not equate to the millions of ladies in their respective countries.

There's a reason their online, and most time then not, its not a ideal one. Tinder is the lone exception as in quite a few countries its hit "mainstream".

Now if you're meeting them via social circles, with girls who rarely date foreign guys you may have a point.

Post: #802

For those men interested in dating a woman from a different culture and race, I created a thread with the express intention of talking about the challenges of raising hapa or mixed race kids. I see Asian women mentioned a lot here in this thread, so the new thread created a lively discussion as to the pros and cons of having bi-racial kids.

See this thread here and chime in with your opinion please: /thread-60231.html

Post: #803

Here's what i've come up with so far, hopefully you guys can dissect it and give me as much constructive criticism to re edit it.

​
Pre pre game: take advantage of her not knowing shit about laws and contracts and if possible have them ready according to the countries you will plan to reside in once you figure out the exit plan of her origin country if that's the plan. Fake a contract if possible and make it look legit to let your future wife know that when she leaves she ain't getting shit nor the kids.
Make her persue you for a little while until she submits like butter to a knife to eventually alpha imprinted her and he womb only ofcourse if she's a virgin, you're making her use her logic to get you aka (bringing something to the table)
(She must select you)
Her SMV must be below yours and never past an 8
Define boundaries:
Pregame:
Define your dating/mating strategy prior to commencing plan; marriage, surrogate search, playboy, LTR, cultural slumlord
Never tell them what you do, don't let them size you up, unless you're looking for gold diggers to fuck
Good Prequalifiers + time(frequency) = hash them out.
Stay away from tourist areas (no culture, too westernized)
Solidify yourself
Make friends and be a model neighbor
Top prospects list:
Dominican Republic; body ratios, Spanish, legal p4p
Philippines
Colombia
Romania
Vietnam
Rule of thumb; the needle in a haystack pile gets smaller outside of big cities
The smaller the community, town, sample the less you want to be labeled a whore; culture keeps you in check, so think of it like this; do you want to remove her from that?
Plus a wholesome family keeps a bitch in check especially if you're close.
A woman's beliefs is based of visual data caps (possibilities) within enclosed culture and believing is seeing
Pipeline a solid fling prior to going to make your transition and move easier
Plan to stay a min of 6-12 months realistically to hash out a good prequalifier
Build social circle: bartending, retail, fitness instructor, DJ, English teacher, bouncer, call center, airbnb for chicks, couch surfing, take dance classes, engage in social media, start newspaper or small magazine for status, talent scout photographer, start social circle, club promoter, start for free, store clerk in great location: universities, street vendor, hire maid; use her as your guide. Free English classes, hire an assistant, work for a university or school , beauty school signup, tinder, yoga classes. Okay tourist card, offer to pay them to show you around, take a language course of theirs. Full time yaya or personal assistant for meal prep massage and travel companion, volunteer, school volunteer
Prequalifiers can eat be found in small retail spaces, social circles and universities, church
Have a routine and give yourself something to do
Put the word out that you're looking for a nice young woman to marry
Establish your status as a great guy with the community, neighbors and contacts, church, flexing on a rental
Prequalifiers:
Actual sense of humor; happy
Virgin
Parents together
Family morals, ideally family values and solid structure
Working or in school
Good genes including familial
No bad habits; smoking drinking or drugs
Good social circle or friends, preferably none
Manners and well spoken
Respectful
If she's serious; no attitude
Emotional maturity
Morally sound
Religion
Little or light makeup, dress up, modest
Education; little to none
Age; 17-18
Behavior priming:
Sex and frequency regulation must never be set by her by reminding her that you are the prize and you'll leave her
Cheating and lying of any level
Children
Other male validation that is not me
Variables to maintain and control at all times:
Language, don't let them learn English if possible
Internet access if possible just social media
Keep her with a brick phone always
Point red pill knowledge at all times and how behavior so she knows you are aware of the crap women do and it will not tolerated
Have and enforcer and remind her of the zero tolerance for bullshit and cheating
Remind her that you will send her ass back and shame her and tell all of her family how much of a whore she is if she commits retarded Shit.
Maintain and enforce legal upper hand at all times and remind her that if you break up she's ain't leaving with shit not ever the children.
Control the environment they are always in
Control all social settings
Maintain bonding activities
Keep her busy at home, minimize comforts, try to emulate home mechanics
Always provide and "show" her the ability to freely choose.
Never upgrade her lifestyle, keep it the same or downgrade it during infatuation phase.
Keep single friends and relatives away, do not socialize with them.
When socializing with other couples; they must have been together for at least 5 years and have good healthy relationship themselves.
Practice her religion
Have children asap, gives em something to do and it's why you got her.
Must always have something to do and entertain herself outside of the internet and tv
Use relationship formalities, "dad, mom, husband, wife. You are not equal, or on the same level.
Maintain similar length from city as to where she is from (found), do not superimpose a different environment.
Must discipline asap like you would a child on the spot.
Define and assert boundaries, examples;
Male friends
Social media
Create a dependency
Maintain all authority; money and other things or decisions through fear and insecurity

Post: #804

I'm giving it another go with a second girl I met in Moscow in November. We have only met a few times the week I was there. "Wife hunting" will be premature at this point but she is coming to stay with me in California for a few weeks. She is a personal trainer at the top Moscow fitness chain and her life is above average. We did know of some of the same people. I was only able to kiss her there and social media points to a family/responsible woman. I will admit that there has to be a little bit of crazy in her to travel half way around the world to see a man. She got the visa and plane ticket on her own. Seems motivated but not too much. I'll let you know how this one plays out. 30 7.5/8

Post: #805

^ Good luck, that looks like a tough play especially if you bring over. 7.5+ fitness trainer used to dealing with wealthy clients and male trainers.

Post: #806

(01-03-2017 12:57 PM)Sacachungas Wrote:  Here's what i've come up with so far, hopefully you guys can dissect it and give me as much constructive criticism to re edit it.

​
Pre pre game: take advantage of her not knowing shit about laws and contracts and if possible have them ready according to the countries you will plan to reside in once you figure out the exit plan of her origin country if that's the plan. Fake a contract if possible and make it look legit to let your future wife know that when she leaves she ain't getting shit nor the kids.
Make her persue you for a little while until she submits like butter to a knife to eventually alpha imprinted her and he womb only ofcourse if she's a virgin, you're making her use her logic to get you aka (bringing something to the table)
(She must select you)
Her SMV must be below yours and never past an 8
Define boundaries:
Pregame:
Define your dating/mating strategy prior to commencing plan; marriage, surrogate search, playboy, LTR, cultural slumlord
Never tell them what you do, don't let them size you up, unless you're looking for gold diggers to fuck
Good Prequalifiers + time(frequency) = hash them out.
Stay away from tourist areas (no culture, too westernized)
Solidify yourself
Make friends and be a model neighbor
Top prospects list:
Dominican Republic; body ratios, Spanish, legal p4p
Philippines
Colombia
Romania
Vietnam
Rule of thumb; the needle in a haystack pile gets smaller outside of big cities
The smaller the community, town, sample the less you want to be labeled a whore; culture keeps you in check, so think of it like this; do you want to remove her from that?
Plus a wholesome family keeps a bitch in check especially if you're close.
A woman's beliefs is based of visual data caps (possibilities) within enclosed culture and believing is seeing
Pipeline a solid fling prior to going to make your transition and move easier
Plan to stay a min of 6-12 months realistically to hash out a good prequalifier
Build social circle: bartending, retail, fitness instructor, DJ, English teacher, bouncer, call center, airbnb for chicks, couch surfing, take dance classes, engage in social media, start newspaper or small magazine for status, talent scout photographer, start social circle, club promoter, start for free, store clerk in great location: universities, street vendor, hire maid; use her as your guide. Free English classes, hire an assistant, work for a university or school , beauty school signup, tinder, yoga classes. Okay tourist card, offer to pay them to show you around, take a language course of theirs. Full time yaya or personal assistant for meal prep massage and travel companion, volunteer, school volunteer
Prequalifiers can eat be found in small retail spaces, social circles and universities, church
Have a routine and give yourself something to do
Put the word out that you're looking for a nice young woman to marry
Establish your status as a great guy with the community, neighbors and contacts, church, flexing on a rental
Prequalifiers:
Actual sense of humor; happy
Virgin
Parents together
Family morals, ideally family values and solid structure
Working or in school
Good genes including familial
No bad habits; smoking drinking or drugs
Good social circle or friends, preferably none
Manners and well spoken
Respectful
If she's serious; no attitude
Emotional maturity
Morally sound
Religion
Little or light makeup, dress up, modest
Education; little to none
Age; 17-18
Behavior priming:
Sex and frequency regulation must never be set by her by reminding her that you are the prize and you'll leave her
Cheating and lying of any level
Children
Other male validation that is not me
Variables to maintain and control at all times:
Language, don't let them learn English if possible
Internet access if possible just social media
Keep her with a brick phone always
Point red pill knowledge at all times and how behavior so she knows you are aware of the crap women do and it will not tolerated
Have and enforcer and remind her of the zero tolerance for bullshit and cheating
Remind her that you will send her ass back and shame her and tell all of her family how much of a whore she is if she commits retarded Shit.
Maintain and enforce legal upper hand at all times and remind her that if you break up she's ain't leaving with shit not ever the children.
Control the environment they are always in
Control all social settings
Maintain bonding activities
Keep her busy at home, minimize comforts, try to emulate home mechanics
Always provide and "show" her the ability to freely choose.
Never upgrade her lifestyle, keep it the same or downgrade it during infatuation phase.
Keep single friends and relatives away, do not socialize with them.
When socializing with other couples; they must have been together for at least 5 years and have good healthy relationship themselves.
Practice her religion
Have children asap, gives em something to do and it's why you got her.
Must always have something to do and entertain herself outside of the internet and tv
Use relationship formalities, "dad, mom, husband, wife. You are not equal, or on the same level.
Maintain similar length from city as to where she is from (found), do not superimpose a different environment.
Must discipline asap like you would a child on the spot.
Define and assert boundaries, examples;
Male friends
Social media
Create a dependency
Maintain all authority; money and other things or decisions through fear and insecurity

What the hell did I just read here? Legal P4P?

Post: #807

(01-04-2017 08:44 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  She got the visa and plane ticket on her own. Seems motivated but not too much. I'll let you know how this one plays out. 30 7.5/8

The fiance visa process is very slow, which is brilliant (6-9 months from the time the paperwork is filed, if I remember correctly). It forces the couple to take their time and it prevents the man from being railroaded into a quick marriage. Many a relationship has crumbled during this waiting period, which has saved the US from having to dole out green cards to millions of female scam artists.

Time is always the best remedy to vetting a woman's character. I believe that a two year "investigation" process should go into any relationship with a foreign woman. If you end up marrying the woman, two years is not much in the grand scheme of things.

I have been through the process several times, so I speak from experience. I wish you the best of luck.

Post: #808

to be honest, i was just taking as many notes as i could as soon as i got ideas into my head, didnt really bother to clean it up or edit anything, i kinda just wanted to torw them out there and have you guys interested in the topic pick it apart and give me feedback.

Post: #809

(01-04-2017 08:44 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  I'm giving it another go with a second girl I met in Moscow in November. We have only met a few times the week I was there. "Wife hunting" will be premature at this point but she is coming to stay with me in California for a few weeks. She is a personal trainer at the top Moscow fitness chain and her life is above average. We did know of some of the same people. I was only able to kiss her there and social media points to a family/responsible woman. I will admit that there has to be a little bit of crazy in her to travel half way around the world to see a man. She got the visa and plane ticket on her own. Seems motivated but not too much. I'll let you know how this one plays out. 30 7.5/8

For all those considering an LTR with EE girls, I've been blind to a woman's natural tendencies.

Lessons Learned...
Don't pay for her trips to visit you in the North America.
Why - She will expect you to pay for all the vacations and never understand the value of money.

Pick a country where the quality of are girls on par or better than your girl.
Why - If she starts to misbehave, then leave her on the spot. Don't think about 1 girl. You need to look out for yourself. There are plenty of other girls who want to meet you. Whenever a girl was acting weird on a date, I knew which clubs / lounges I would go right after seeing her.

It's very important to conduct from a position of authority, because this brings abundance to your mindset. You may crush her ego and make her cry, but it's better than you getting crushed.

She can obtain her own visa (work / tourist).
Why - She understands how to strategize and comply with governmental regulations. Her ability to think rationally is very important. This is huge. If things don't work out, then there's less pressure for both parties vs. the fiancee visa route. Also, this gives both of you breathing room to see if the relationship is viable. If things work out, then it's awesome you found a beautiful girl who can also be a good partner. Having smarts, diligence and maternal instincts is very attractive. She should be a good role model for your kids.

She earns her own money / enjoys her job.
Why - Haters are always going to hate. Women who are spoiled will never be happy and only complain. They will become lazy and find an addiction (drugs, shopping, food, alcohol, gambling, opioids, gossip, etc...). She will drag you down and create a destructive environment. You will age 10 years and waste some of the best years of your life due to the stress.

She will expect an allowance from you when you're working your ass everyday. She doesn't need to be a CEO, but she needs to work and help with the expenses if you both enjoy the finer things in life.

Be careful with lower-class girls who don't have any money but want to live the good life.
Note: I saw this a lot in EE. I agree with deleting EE girls (with no financial means) who are sponsored and have lavish pics in a hotel. Cutting them immediately will save you a lot of time in the end. Her mind is polluted, and she will take you for a ride. There are normal EE girls. Meet them instead.

Why - If you ever get married, she will take money from you and send it to her family. She may never work, but she will figure out ways to siphon your savings to her fund her family's financial woes.

After spending time in EE, I welcomed returning to Western Europe's standard of living and meeting girls there. It's refreshing meeting girls who don't expect you to pay for everything. They have money and can travel freely to the North America.

East & West has it's pros & cons. Fortunately, it's a short 2 hour flight within Europe if you ever fancy either side.

Post: #810

I met my wife abroad in the Philippines, but I had a very specific interest in common when scoping chicks - traditional Catholic.

Post: #811

@jabba

Solid real Talk. Rep +1 from me.

Filtering in the early stages is crucial to get a quality LTR, much less wife. I was once talking with a girl who brought up her financial troubles right away. I told her I was sympathic, but I don't do charity via online dating. She said she liked me and I said that's irrelevant.

The following day, she messages me and tells me that if I want to continue to talk with her, I need to help her with her college tutuion. HARD NEXT, BLOCKED.

As men, we can be suckered by a sweet girl who uses vulnerability game on us, especially if she has a pretty face. That's why it is important to filter early and often. Get in the habit of saying "no" to women. When you get in a relationship or marriage, it makes it easier to hold frame, and she'll enjoy your occasional Yes that much more.

You set the tone as to how a woman will treat you, for better or for worse.

Post: #812

(01-04-2017 09:45 PM)Sacachungas Wrote:  to be honest, i was just taking as many notes as i could as soon as i got ideas into my head, didnt really bother to clean it up or edit anything, i kinda just wanted to torw them out there and have you guys interested in the topic pick it apart and give me feedback.

If you want someone to read what you wrote, put some effort in. I certainly didn't read that, and I imagine most people won't. Why would we?

Post: #813

Post: #814

^^ video is a cracker mate

Post: #815

(02-12-2017 03:18 PM)Advance Wrote:  ^^ video is a cracker mate

Agreed. A gut buster indeed.

On that note, has anyone scouted Malaysia for LTR or wives and has insight to share? Not really referring to Malay Chinese here.

Post: #816

(01-03-2017 12:57 PM)Sacachungas Wrote:  Here's what i've come up with so far, hopefully you guys can dissect it and give me as much constructive criticism to re edit it.

​
Pre pre game: take advantage of her not knowing shit about laws and contracts and if possible have them ready according to the countries you will plan to reside in once you figure out the exit plan of her origin country if that's the plan. Fake a contract if possible and make it look legit to let your future wife know that when she leaves she ain't getting shit nor the kids.
Make her persue you for a little while until she submits like butter to a knife to eventually alpha imprinted her and he womb only ofcourse if she's a virgin, you're making her use her logic to get you aka (bringing something to the table)
(She must select you)
Her SMV must be below yours and never past an 8
Define boundaries:
Pregame:
Define your dating/mating strategy prior to commencing plan; marriage, surrogate search, playboy, LTR, cultural slumlord
Never tell them what you do, don't let them size you up, unless you're looking for gold diggers to fuck
Good Prequalifiers + time(frequency) = hash them out.
Stay away from tourist areas (no culture, too westernized)
Solidify yourself
Make friends and be a model neighbor
Top prospects list:
Dominican Republic; body ratios, Spanish, legal p4p
Philippines
Colombia
Romania
Vietnam
Rule of thumb; the needle in a haystack pile gets smaller outside of big cities
The smaller the community, town, sample the less you want to be labeled a whore; culture keeps you in check, so think of it like this; do you want to remove her from that?
Plus a wholesome family keeps a bitch in check especially if you're close.
A woman's beliefs is based of visual data caps (possibilities) within enclosed culture and believing is seeing
Pipeline a solid fling prior to going to make your transition and move easier
Plan to stay a min of 6-12 months realistically to hash out a good prequalifier
Build social circle: bartending, retail, fitness instructor, DJ, English teacher, bouncer, call center, airbnb for chicks, couch surfing, take dance classes, engage in social media, start newspaper or small magazine for status, talent scout photographer, start social circle, club promoter, start for free, store clerk in great location: universities, street vendor, hire maid; use her as your guide. Free English classes, hire an assistant, work for a university or school , beauty school signup, tinder, yoga classes. Okay tourist card, offer to pay them to show you around, take a language course of theirs. Full time yaya or personal assistant for meal prep massage and travel companion, volunteer, school volunteer
Prequalifiers can eat be found in small retail spaces, social circles and universities, church
Have a routine and give yourself something to do
Put the word out that you're looking for a nice young woman to marry
Establish your status as a great guy with the community, neighbors and contacts, church, flexing on a rental
Prequalifiers:
Actual sense of humor; happy
Virgin
Parents together
Family morals, ideally family values and solid structure
Working or in school
Good genes including familial
No bad habits; smoking drinking or drugs
Good social circle or friends, preferably none
Manners and well spoken
Respectful
If she's serious; no attitude
Emotional maturity
Morally sound
Religion
Little or light makeup, dress up, modest
Education; little to none
Age; 17-18
Behavior priming:
Sex and frequency regulation must never be set by her by reminding her that you are the prize and you'll leave her
Cheating and lying of any level
Children
Other male validation that is not me
Variables to maintain and control at all times:
Language, don't let them learn English if possible
Internet access if possible just social media
Keep her with a brick phone always
Point red pill knowledge at all times and how behavior so she knows you are aware of the crap women do and it will not tolerated
Have and enforcer and remind her of the zero tolerance for bullshit and cheating
Remind her that you will send her ass back and shame her and tell all of her family how much of a whore she is if she commits retarded Shit.
Maintain and enforce legal upper hand at all times and remind her that if you break up she's ain't leaving with shit not ever the children.
Control the environment they are always in
Control all social settings
Maintain bonding activities
Keep her busy at home, minimize comforts, try to emulate home mechanics
Always provide and "show" her the ability to freely choose.
Never upgrade her lifestyle, keep it the same or downgrade it during infatuation phase.
Keep single friends and relatives away, do not socialize with them.
When socializing with other couples; they must have been together for at least 5 years and have good healthy relationship themselves.
Practice her religion
Have children asap, gives em something to do and it's why you got her.
Must always have something to do and entertain herself outside of the internet and tv
Use relationship formalities, "dad, mom, husband, wife. You are not equal, or on the same level.
Maintain similar length from city as to where she is from (found), do not superimpose a different environment.
Must discipline asap like you would a child on the spot.
Define and assert boundaries, examples;
Male friends
Social media
Create a dependency
Maintain all authority; money and other things or decisions through fear and insecurity

I always wondered if I ever took the time to read the side one of these what it would say


Still dont know...but thanks for trying

Post: #817

@Jabba +1 fro me

Real Talk

Post: #818

Bump for updates. Have any of you gentlemen who have traveled abroad recently had any luck either scouting out the women of a particular country or countries, and are sitting on a datasheet we've yet to see? Any new LTR/wife prospects? Anyone in the pipeline via online dating or having a friend/family member set you up? If anyone has made some progress, I'd love to hear it, as would many other members following this thread. My own plans to travel to Vietnam and southern Europe will be in Q4 of this year if all goes well. Lets keep the information flowing folks.

Post: #819

Is wife hunting abroad really worth the logistical, administrative, and immigration headaches?

Reason why I ask because recently I connected with a girl from my ethnic culture who is currently studying in a third country. She's sweet, humble, and all that jazz. So much so that I was thinking man I could be potentially see myself putting a bun in her oven and bringing her back to the land of Walmart for that sweet suburban living in a zip code with decent public schools and high taxes.

But the hurdles of bringing her over (1 - 2 year process for fiance visa + unknown immigration hurdles), her learning english, acclimating to culture, being independent enough to care and raise kids during my absence, and eventually her securing her own employment all seem TOO DAUNTING.

The intangibles of nabbing a beaut from my own culture (especially one raised in small traditional city outside of modern ill influences) are too good to pass (at least in thought). She plays the coy and naive card well but could be a master gamer herself with higher cock count than suspected.

Am I overthinking it or just finally realizing the high risk/high reward situation of the abroad wife?

Post: #820

There's no "sure" thing whether you have a native or foreign wife. The question is more what are your objectives, and which country (your home country or one abroad) is most likely to have the type of women that you want? From that pool of women, that's where you want to find your wife. There's also the fact that many men are open to living abroad permanently, and not always interested in bringing her back to their home country.

Last but not least, "decent" public schools are a misnomer in most circumstances. With all the SJW nonsense, more often than not, you need to either look into private schools or home schooling if you want your future children to have a decent education.

Post: #821

@monsquid - Guys have different opinions on this. I don't like it. You have to get married to get her into "the land of Walmart" and if you are married then she can divorce rape you. There is a high likelihood that her "acclimating to culture" will include acclimating to the way of the western woman. You might be 10 years and a couple of kids into it before she really changes but that just makes it worse.

Post: #822

I guess land of Walmart you mean America.

How many girls that are living in America and plan to stay long term have you dated that stack up close to her?

If your answer is 3 or more then I'd say maybe put it on the back burner.

If the answer is 0 or 1 and you are above 25 years old I would say think very carefully before moving on. A positive from the obstacles to overcome should be a shared bond that you both worked hard to be with each other.

I have dated some girls that are sweet and attractive in the U.S., the big problems were being past sluts, having a weak or missing father figure, usually both. I have dated two girls sweet, inexperienced, good families -- not attractive enough for me to stay faithful to. I really blame the lack of full package American girls on the fat epidemic mixed with more males and more competition.

I have not dated an American girl with the full package. Abroad on two different trips in two different hemispheres I have met full package girls with barely any time and barely getting out there.

The math is telling me what rewards me more.

If I had dated a few full package American girls in the past I would be the first to look in the mirror and tell
myself maybe I am running away from my own problems and issues.

My mind is still completely open to American girls, I just know the odds and focus my energy based on my experiences.

Post: #823

^MonSquid you are not overthinking..these are legitimate concerns with importing. You are seeing the steps that lie ahead and realized it is NO JOKE.

There is no shortage of wife material in the countries discussed on this thread..the better question is whether you are a traveller VS living there. The latter person has a better chance of success.

For a number of reasons, if I met a girl worth investing in, moving to her country is starting to look like a better option than importing. The latter buys me 2 decades more of cold winters given I would want a family. Not to mention other problems with the west.

Post: #824

^Kaizen is right. The problem seems not only about finding a girl, but also about the logistical issue of staying in the USA vs moving to her country. It is a huge consideration which should not be taken lightly.

I know of MANY expats and travelers to Colombia, for example, and I can tell you that a pattern emerges. There is always the initial bliss phase of meeting attractive women, enjoying a new culture, and having a good time in a new place. Especially if you make your $ elsewhere, Colombia is a lot of fun.

But as the years pile on, the little things about a place kill you. The petty theft, the crime, the lies, people taking advantage of you because you are the foreigner, the underlying culture that you were not raised in etc etc.

It is not your homeland and never will be. You feel this on a deep level the later in life you make a move there.

And I'd say 99% of those who move to Colombia come to get sick of it and leave within the first 3-5 years. It is a country to visit and play around in as a single man, but to marry someone and live and raise a family there there is not the best idea. You would be asking for trouble. And this is the testimony of many men on this forum.

And, even if you did find a good girl in Colombia... would you bring a girl back to the USA with its feminist culture? Would you bring a girl from a low resource consumption environment to a high resource consumption environment, where 2/3 of women are overweight and believe their calling in life is to go shopping?

I vacillate. I don't know the answer to this question. At this point, I think I'm secretly hoping to find a red-pilled American girl with a traditional mindset and healthy habits so I can stay in the USA and live in my own homeland.

Post: #825

(02-21-2017 01:40 AM)Slam Wrote:  It is not your homeland and never will be. You feel this on a deep level the later in life you make a move there.

If the West doesn't improve anytime soon, perhaps this is the price we pay to wife up a good traditional woman to raise a family with.

The question is, is it too large of a price to pay for some men?