Post: #26

(08-04-2015 11:38 AM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Add me to the group that says you didn't do anything wrong. I think your answer lies in whatever she saw or was texting on her phone when you were driving back to your place. She was probably nervous about being alone with you in private and she took whatever "lifeline" was offered to her on her phone.

You've always been supportive of my questions on here no matter how basic and at the same time have never coddled me or blew smoke up my ass. So, I'll give you a little Travesty advice back as if I posed this question to you: You did nothing wrong. Stop doubting yourself, put this girl on the back burner and keep working others. Hit her up in a few days and play it from there.

I agree. I wouldn't worry about this until it repeats itself with a few girls.

Post: #27

I don't see a lot of game. I see some obvious red flags.

I see a few physical moves, a little bit of compliance. but I don't read much in terms of verbal game.

I see offers being made, but there is not much leading the horse to water.

I see a date that went exactly like she thought it would.

WIA

Post: #28

Gotta co sign with team did nothing wrong. Maybe at the most get out of the water earlier, but she'd might of reacted the same.

I have a strong feeling her phone and whoever texted her had to do with her decision.

The next move/answer lies in if you get a second meet up with her and how her response is. Sounds like if you do get the second meet it's all or nothing.

Post: #29

(08-04-2015 12:51 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  A 20 year old went from hot to cold in an instant? Color me surprised.

Either she didn't really like you, so she bailed, or she liked you a lot and freaked out not knowing how to handle the situation. Young girls are like that.

I'm wondering why you're lying to girls about your age, and how long you've lived in your city, though. I've read lots of your posts, and you have tight game. You could tell girls you're 75 and live in a dumpster and they wouldn't give a shit. So why put on an act?

It's one of those little lies we only say because it works so well. As Travesty himself noted, it WILL cost you Bangs if you tell the truth. Yeah, if you have everything lined up perfectly, it won't matter...I don't like only getting laid when everything is lined up perfect, I personally like getting laid in all those other imperfect situations where it might not happen if I let silly bullshit get in the way.

Some guys need to tell themselves "Looks don't matter, I don't need to be in shape, money/status doesn't matter, age doesn't matter" when in fact they matter quite a bit.

Not saying they've never contributed anything of any value, but this isn't an RSD Jedi forum, this is Roosh, where we give it to you straight.

If you've taken good care of yourself, dress stylishly, and can pass for younger, she sees you and she wants you, and the only way you can fuck things up and disqualify yourself is to tell her your real age, good game is in fact telling her what she wants to hear to put you in a fuckable range for her.

You can tell her truth and then try and overcome her social conditioning and peer pressure, but why make things harder on yourself?

Post: #30

(08-04-2015 02:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I don't see a lot of game. I see some obvious red flags.

I see a few physical moves, a little bit of compliance. but I don't read much in terms of verbal game.

I see offers being made, but there is not much leading the horse to water.

I see a date that went exactly like she thought it would.

WIA

I agree it could have been this, again English is her second language though she spoke very good English there were definite times I had to explain things like what snorkeling means and her accent was heavy enough once or twice I had to ask her to say it again. Didn't seem like a big deal though.

Like with most girls that young the conversation were all short bursts all over the place and jokes constantly switching topics.

We bantered about a million little things like surfing, paddleboarding, snorkeling, motorcycles, China, New Zealand, NYC, food, card games, movies, painting, musical instruments.

I will saying after plowing through that many subjects to keep the energy going when we were going back to the car to go back to my place I was looking forward to relaxing on the couch with her to have a drink or smoke and have some background movie on. I did try mixing in some pull back just looking around (there was beautiful scenery at sunset - islands on one side, a pier on another, a bluff on another, and mountains on the other) so I wasn't expending too much carrying the conversation.

"I see a date that went exactly like she thought it would"

That is the interesting line, what kind of moves would you recommend to stand out from what she thought was going to go down?

This is where I question about being more assertive with some physical compliments and touching faster like LINUX has shown to work in Colombia. Again though that was my first time of being in a cold ocean within 20 minutes of a first date. I had fun on the date though, there was some pressure I felt to keep the energy going even with an ocean at my disposal.

My instincts in the car with our bantering on the way back about movies said... ok we're round 2 going into my place time to ramp it up - then the plug got pulled.

My gut is definitely telling me I had what felt like a lay up that I fucked up otherwise I wouldn't have posted this. It seems like this is a date I can learn a lot from.

This date felt like I was going into the game as a clearly favored winner and got blown out at the end.

One thing that sticks out that I usually do but did not really do any of because of the moving to and from the beach and in the water was I didn't tease her. I don't remember teasing her once. I think everything was comfort and banter. Thought I had time on my side.

Post: #31

A couple of Hail Mary's from the bleachers -

She suggested a date of night swimming. That is extremely unusual to me, that a girl goes straight to offering to be semi naked, in close proximity, with a bloke she doesn't know from a bar of soap.

You cold approached, led the interaction, got digits. That takes balls anyway you dice it. She got exited and labelled you "sex guy" in her head.

She was after adventure sex and you were the man for the position, hence the venue and activity. The reason she agreed to go back to your place was because you were still in the ocean and the interaction was still "on" to her.

As soon as you got out, it was cooked, and all previous agreements now dust. You made a point of noting she went to her phone in the car. You noticed enough write it, and it stood out to me in your post. I think it's a pretty significant indicator and you picked up on it as well - she had already left the building.

Conclusion: She wanted to be fucked in the water.

I'll bet the farm you don't see or hear from her again.

Retune, reload.

Next.

Post: #32

^ Hah well I didn't think of that. There were people right on the beach.

Here are some things I am thinking of now that would have been a lot ballsier.

Go swimming much later after sunset at a more secluded beach with liquor. I guess I just didn't have an open mind to accept she could be down for something like that. I thought I was getting a stroke of luck she was comfortable enough with me to be in a bikini right away. You can always take things further. Something for next time.

Post: #33

The first time I read this, I discounted the Asian aspect of it.

Asian girl on a college campus
- first generation or better = effectively a white girl, game as normal
- Fresh off the Boat - going to Chinese Bible Study - she will be too shy in some respects

But then sifu Traveler Kai got into the mix and mentioned that there are a # of super rich Chinese kids going to American/Western universities. With that in mind, the more money you have, the more you're used to Western Culture. It doesn't make you Western though.

Not surprised that she was open to you.
Not surprised that she gave up the #
Not surprised by the fact that she wanted to go out with you.

What is weird to me is that she suggested the date.
That's a change in gender roles.

In terms of game, you can always work on the fly. I do a lot. But solid game is you controlling the activity and environment.

No matter.

I didn't get a sense whether or not you texted her between making the date and actually meeting up.

Did you feel her out?
Did you get a sense of where her head is at?

I hate to stereotype, but Asian and Indian girls tend to be naive and romantic, but also keep a stiletto in the bra. I haven't had much success with Asian chicks, but (east) Indian chicks I've dealt with from time to time. Superficial, into grades, into "status", but they don't really see what's going on a lot of the time. Ellen Pao is a prime example of somebody that doesn't understand the lay of the land, and wants to come into a situation upturning tables.

So when I read your account, I was thinking
- this must be one of those worldly fresh off the boat type chicks

Like any girl, from anywhere, she wants to protect her womb. Not just any guy is worthy of poking his dick up in her, so she likes to set the pace.

As a player, your job is basically to make her believe she's setting the pace.

But how does that help you in this situation?

I would have felt her out more on the topic of ganja before I mentioned it.
I think that might have creeped her out. If you met her at some hip hop event, and she was a b-girl or something, WEED would have been cool. Just walking around campus with her umbrella, I dunno.

But you guys ended up at the beach anyway.

You went straight to kino, the way it reads.
You also bantered - so you had "wide" rapport.

But I don't see you asking her personal stuff, or her volunteering stuff.
Did you get any DEEP rapport?

You don't necessarily need deep rapport to bang every chick, but with "romantic" type chicks, Fresh off the Boat chicks, you have to basically give her the Hollywood Romance, while you're secretly setting her up for a San Fernando Valley experience.

So the date seemed to be fun, fun, fun. Some chatting, some horseplay, some getting to know you.

She liked movies! Great gambit to get her back to your spot.

But without introducing those kinda themes early on, she was sharp enough to get cold feet. She realized that 1) you'd be in the dark, 2) sitting together, 3) watching a movie, 4) you were gonna light up.

For a square chick, that's straight out of the date rape handbook. I take all of her moves as ones about fear and safety. (the other way to read it, was that she was so turned on, but she promised herself that she wouldn't fuck on the first date this time - much more common with American chicks though)
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What I would have done with an "innocent" was trying to make my move at the beach, all picturesque, looking at the night sky.

Ol kiss under the stars, sitting on a blanket, wrapped up in a blanket....

Knowing my carnivorous self, I would have had some snacks on deck.
Maybe a box of wine.

I think you did what you could, but in terms of game,
- you may have scared the cat
- you didn't sell her the dream
- she wasn't in the bubble with you
- you didn't stir her emotions, romantic or sexual with your words.
- you waited to get out of public to really put the squeeze on her

But I don't really know.

You very well could have been everything she wanted, but she remember Lo Ping at home.

In terms of chicks where there's a language barrier, one of the standards way of tackling the problem is Caveman style. But usually there's a verbal component.

Maybe i'm reading it wrong, but the verbal component, you using your words to entice her - I think is what was missing.

And even then, you might not have banged.

WIA

(08-04-2015 03:35 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-04-2015 02:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I don't see a lot of game. I see some obvious red flags.

I see a few physical moves, a little bit of compliance. but I don't read much in terms of verbal game.

I see offers being made, but there is not much leading the horse to water.

I see a date that went exactly like she thought it would.

WIA

I agree it could have been this, again English is her second language though she spoke very good English there were definite times I had to explain things like what snorkeling means and her accent was heavy enough once or twice I had to ask her to say it again. Didn't seem like a big deal though.

Like with most girls that young the conversation were all short bursts all over the place and jokes constantly switching topics.

We bantered about a million little things like surfing, paddleboarding, snorkeling, motorcycles, China, New Zealand, NYC, food, card games, movies, painting, musical instruments.

I will saying after plowing through that many subjects to keep the energy going when we were going back to the car to go back to my place I was looking forward to relaxing on the couch with her to have a drink or smoke and have some background movie on. I did try mixing in some pull back just looking around (there was beautiful scenery at sunset - islands on one side, a pier on another, a bluff on another, and mountains on the other) so I wasn't expending too much carrying the conversation.

"I see a date that went exactly like she thought it would"

That is the interesting line, what kind of moves would you recommend to stand out from what she thought was going to go down?

This is where I question about being more assertive with some physical compliments and touching faster like LINUX has shown to work in Colombia. Again though that was my first time of being in a cold ocean within 20 minutes of a first date. I had fun on the date though, there was some pressure I felt to keep the energy going even with an ocean at my disposal.

My instincts in the car with our bantering on the way back about movies said... ok we're round 2 going into my place time to ramp it up - then the plug got pulled.

My gut is definitely telling me I had what felt like a lay up that I fucked up otherwise I wouldn't have posted this. It seems like this is a date I can learn a lot from.

This date felt like I was going into the game as a clearly favored winner and got blown out at the end.

One thing that sticks out that I usually do but did not really do any of because of the moving to and from the beach and in the water was I didn't tease her. I don't remember teasing her once. I think everything was comfort and banter. Thought I had time on my side.

Post: #34

Appreciate the extensive feedback.

I definitely lacked in any deep rapport. I thought again when she said yeah let's watch a movie, I had time when we got back to hang out and talk more and make a move.

I think the American part of me took over and when we were in the water at sunset though... this girl wanted to be alone with me out in the dark I fucked up by coming this early... she wanted to bang... let's get her home! Looking back the movie idea maybe have been a tad bit rushed but again, she had already seemed comfy in my apartment.

After I offered weed, she said maybe after. She even said it was ok if I wanted to smoke before we left, I told her let's go to beach and of course didn't. This is Santa Barbara area lots of college girls smoke quite often. It is hard not to offer weed because if a girl says yes it is a slam dunk and usually mind-blowing sex. The ones that don't do it are usually fine with it.

Looking back now after all this feedback the ways I could have played it to my advantage:

Gone after dark to a more secluded beach, brought some booze. Go for it in the water and on the beach. She seemed down to go after dark.

Or using the current scenario I shouldn't have rushed the movie idea as Roosh brought up the time issue it was too fast... we probably needed more time hanging out on the beach as it got dark, could have told her lets go for a walk and try to make out under the stars.

I definitely give myself a B- rating on my Game this date. I think the novelty of the situation had me off balance. Hard to tell a college girl that looks great in a bikini no though to going in the water.

Post: #35

I will hit her up in maybe 4 or 5 days, try to get her on the phone again if she answers to build some deeper rapport.

I definitely failed to have her doing 80-90% of the talking like I usually do with teasing thrown in.

If anyone has a good restarter text idea... I'm blank haha maybe:

"hey little Ms. Beijing next time we go swimming its got to be under the stars" :emoji: :picture of starry beach:

Anyone know a good vegan neg in Mandarin?

I'm terrible at restarts.

Post: #36

Reminds of a layup that I fucked up haha. Trav I think you may have a 2nd shot. Even I got a day 2 after missing all of the signs she was throwing at me.

Good restart: xx_nickname, (mention something about her or the bikini even), _hint or next meet plan.

Me: nips, I never imagined meeting a real life mermaid. (maybe it hooks because she finds it funny and she happens to be a great swimmer).

I did something similar and got my day 2 not long after.

Post: #37

As someone who personally daygames at the beaches in Los Angeles a lot my main question is why didn't you attempt to kiss her while you guys were in the water and you touched her ASS? That was a perfect moment to escalate especially since she was already half naked.

Other than that critical point everything else you seemed to do alright in my book. And damn something must have happened when you said she went to check something on her phone because that also changed to outcome of the date.

Don't think about it to much tho. If after the restart text she's not down to meet up or makes up some BS excuses just next her.

Remember to have an Abundance Mentality and Always Be Replacing Not Chasing especially considering the fact that she didn't even hug you goodbye.

Post: #38

(08-04-2015 08:43 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I will hit her up in maybe 4 or 5 days, try to get her on the phone again if she answers to build some deeper rapport.

I definitely failed to have her doing 80-90% of the talking like I usually do with teasing thrown in.

If anyone has a good restarter text idea... I'm blank haha maybe:

"hey little Ms. Beijing next time we go swimming its got to be under the stars" :emoji: :picture of starry beach:

Anyone know a good vegan neg in Mandarin?

I'm terrible at restarts.

I like "You know I had a dream about you last night" (or some customized variation of that) for restarting the romanticly inclined chiquitas.

Curious to see what happens if you get another chance at this

Post: #39

^ Hah that's an oldie but goodie I think I'll use that, I used to use that years ago! Thanks.

My $ is with some of the other guys the second she turned to shuffle away and I felt like someone punched me in the gut I concluded it was over.

Post: #40

(08-05-2015 07:58 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Hah that's an oldie but goodie I think I'll use that, I used to use that years ago! Thanks.

My $ is with some of the other guys the second she turned to shuffle away and I felt like someone punched me in the gut I concluded it was over.

I'm terrible at 1st date bangs unless there's alcohol or smokage involved so I don't know but..I still think she's just young and got freaked out. Just too quick. She needed more comfort before going back inside to what would then be an obviously intimate scenario. It wasn't scary before because the plan was to go swimming so she knew you guys weren't staying in there.

Post: #41

I just used that text strategy . Definitely works, haha.

Post: #42

(08-05-2015 07:58 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Hah that's an oldie but goodie I think I'll use that, I used to use that years ago! Thanks.

My $ is with some of the other guys the second she turned to shuffle away and I felt like someone punched me in the gut I concluded it was over.

I think it's also because you invested a lot in the date.

You allowed her in your house without getting sex in return. Shittteeee I would be pissed too.

She got a free ride in your car. Shittteeee I would be pissed too.

She got free surfing lessons too. Shittteeee I would be pissed too.

She went on a date with you and you didn't even get a hug, or kiss. Shittteeee I would be pissed too.

She wasted your valuable time that you could have used to game and fuck other better looking Bitches. Shittteeee I would be pissed too.

You need to listen to Young Dro on this one and say " FUCK DAT BITCH!!!




If she wants to meet up with you again she will contact you saying so. Otherwise go out and daygame some more bitches bro and be thankful you didn't spend any money on her.
Always Be Replacing Not Chasing and keep having an Abundance Mentality.

If you ever come out to Los Angeles let me know and we can game these Bitches up at Venice Beach and Santa Monica Beach.

I'll start putting videos up of me gaming bitches at the beach like this in the future because I have a lot of editing to do.




¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just Approach 1 Day At A Time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Post: #43

Chinese women are a bunch of total flake-ass bitches.

Post: #44

(08-03-2015 11:30 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-03-2015 11:24 PM)Tex Wrote:  ...

the only real slut tell she has is a small tattoo on her right calf

A mainland Chinese girl with a tattoo? That comes up with a date idea on her own, and it involves her half-naked with a guy she just met?

Damn it, vegan or not, she was craving for some meat here!
Now I wasn´t there, and obviously don´t know the vibe of the situation. But from what I read, I would have been much more aggressive under those circumstances, less talking, more touching and going in for the make out, right after you grabbed her ass. With a Chinese girl that gives me slut tells like that, I wouldn´t play around or hesitate.

There´s already good advice in this thread, and I agree with WIA, it seems likely that she wanted the whole romantic date on the beach ending with wild sex under the stars experience.
Just hit her up after a few days like you said you will, see if she´s still interested.
So much in life is about doing the right thing, at the right time, in the right place. It´s not always your fault. Game on.

Post: #45

Travesty, it’s a strange one to figure out. I think she wanted the D, but you were not aggressive enough. She may next you now because you weren’t aggressive enough.

“Asian” woman is a broad term…Chinese/Japanese/Koreans are all different. Even for Chinese, ABC (American Born Chinese), Taiwanese, Mainland Chinese, Hong Kong Chinese, Indonesian Chinese etc. are all different.

I remember one time I had an ABC at my place watching a movie, then afterwards I let her go, I didn’t try anything...after that she went silent. I guess she wanted me to be aggressive and was disappointed that I didn’t do anything? Who knows with women…?

Some FOB women want a man to be more aggressive (or American...but I'm not American, I'm a British-Indian), because they think that a lot of the men from their own cultures are too passive. Last week I met a woman from Harbin (China) for coffee… she said to me Chinese men are too shy around her so I said “I’m not like that” and I had my arm around her the whole time, she didn’t flinch. I later tried to kiss her and she pulled away and said, “not yet”, I then countered by saying, ”At least I’m not shy to do things”. She laughed and was cool with it. She wants to meet again.

I usually get the bang on 2nd date with FOB Chinese women. Usually on the first I try to make out with them and get them really horny. I say something like “I wish were in a private place, we should go back to mine”. Sometimes they yes and I get the bang, sometimes they say “next time” and I get the bang. If they’re very resistant to ever coming to my place I next them.

Post: #46

This thread has become the one I'm most interested in following. Travesty's experience hits particularly close to home for me since I've had countless dates that ended similarly to this. Even though he refers to this as an "L" it has the potential of becoming a major teachable moment for all of us. Travesty is one of the heavy hitters here so on one hand it's reassuring to see someone of his caliber still struggle with these kinds of issues. I have a tendency to take every "miss" to heart and feel like I should be converting 100% of my dates.

Travesty, when you do reach out to her again please update us on how this plays out: win, lose or draw.

Post: #47

She got scared because she liked you and/or you didn't escalate fast enough. In the ocean you should have been touching her constantly.

Also, she's 20 so she's gonna be flaky and maybe just wants you to chase her before giving it up.

You didn't play it perfectly but doesn't mean you were the reason.

Post: #48

It's to your credit that many senior members are chiming in to analyze this experience.

Having followed your SB diary, I can see parallels between your game and mine and this is what I think. In the past you have used lubricants (alcohol, weed), sex-favourable envoiroments (main st bars/clubs) and great logistics to rapidly escalate the right type (mostly white, sexually free college/yuppie chicks) to a W. You have developed a solid framework for this. I'll assume the same for the couch surfing girls.

In this situation you have a fobbie, nerdy Asian science student who set the boundaries for the date - not that they were bad - night surfing sounds awesome and too perfect (which is probably why you are even more perplexed).

I think you didn't get the W because you were running a the kind of offense you are used to but didn't work for her. I've done this many times myself. My main question is - did you keep the vibe sexual? Could she tell your intentions via your voice/body language - did you keep it light and flirty or were you focused on the outcome?

You can't second guess yourself too much, but I think establishing the flirty and playful vibe right at the beginning is tatamount to either achieving the desired result or bailing if there is no feedback. And in first date situations, sometimes due to the results-driven pressure and anxiety one forgets to stay amused, flirty and abundant and defaults to logical. The topics you guys discussed certainly sounded too logical.

Post: #49

TLDR: I win.

Well following the trend of the Monteral victory... the Game Gods have smiled brightly:

I wait 5 days to text the chick - I go with the PG rated sexual innuendo dream restarter (a member suggested it in the thread, I first learned it from Gary Brodksy's 3 CD set How To Be A Player in 2010 and used to use it all the time until my text game and phone game were cashed in for logistic texting in 2012 due to large delays from chicks....

The real answer isn't logistically texting, it is having strong text game like before, but just being WAY more patient - hence soup, B7's, and CJ's (doesn't post enough!) success with week and sometimes weeks long texting.

Text:

Me (Sat 4:50P): hey ms. beijing had a dream about you the other night, we swam under the stars and it was way more fun than last time :angel emoji:

Her (Sat 5:50P): LOL why is it more fun?

Me (Sat 7:49P) -- this was the big risk text some beta mixed in with some aggression (I used to do these types of texts all the time 2010-2012 when girls responded faster):

last time just got over a cold wasn't feeling too hot and too many people (cover up for being a pussy last time)

in the dream its a very warm night the water is cool no ones around beach to ourselves we splash each other in the water having a great time then we dare each other to take off our swimsuits... rest is a secret :wink emoji:

Her (Sat 9:20P): Omg hah that did sound fun! :eye hearts emoji: :crying laughing emoji:

Me (Sun 10:36A):
knew you'd like it :blow heart kiss emoji: i'm gonna hang at Festival X with friends this afternoon

whatya up to today mermaid

Her (Sun 11:57A): Lol nice have fun! I just got back hella tired prolly gonna take a nap and do hw and reading

Me (Sun 5:31P): how reading goin bookworm or are you still napping

Her (Sun 5:56P): Hmm pretty good 20 pages left how you doing?

Me (6:31P): cool just heading back soon lets chill later

Her (7:14P): lol whatchu wanna do?

Me (7:35P) -- after I wrote this I thought I was pushing a little hard, after the beach comment I wanted to push harder and give her more options at the same time:

come over at 830 we'll hang out watch part of a movie have a drink maybe walk down to the beach later :sunshades smirk emoji:

Her (7:50P): Part of a movie lol sure

Me (7:57P): cool I have a kickass action movie see ya soon

Her (8:18P): Lol cool

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So to break this down I used to do these PG innuendo, pet name, fluff texts all the time. Even though it worked great on younger chicks I for some reason gave it up I think my ego won over my patience (how dare these chicks not text me back quickly! Don't they know I'm a scoundrel in demand!?)

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I put some pressure on my self after taking what I consider an L on Date 1. This was such a cherry situation. Now that I know she is down with the sexual nature I run to my room and pop a LINUX prescribed Indian Basement Lab Knock Off Cialis. With some "pressure" chicks where I put pressure on myself for victory I pop one of these and smoke a little weed which turns my anxiety into sexual aggression.

Remind myself I already popped ZMA earlier that day.

I do some air squats.

I do some shadow boxing.

I typeth "naked college bikini Asian chicks" into Google Images and get my boner in Fight or Flight mode minutes before she comes over.

The pad is Game ready with a movie on queue. I meditate on the possibility of having to fuck in the Pacific Ocean with a thresher shark biting my ankle and a dolphin cackling at me in the distance as I tried to get hard in a cold salty oil injected ocean.

I make myself a drink. Damn I miss cigarettes!

She shows up at the door in shorts and a loose tank happy as can be. I finally get the hug close! I pay myself on the back when her head is turned.

So I make an effort to really get personal. I sit down with her chat about our weekends. I try not focus on just running Game. I focus on having a bubble with her. Unlike last date I am finally matching her energy. She accepts a drink offer... whiskey...

We start the dumb action movie and I immediately start talking over it to set the precedent this is us going to make fun of the movie and skip around her ADHD Reference Land to keep her a happy kitten.

She sips thirstily at the whiskey. Maybe she is nervous. Maybe she is alcoholic. Maybe she loves whiskey?

I am on my home turf. I feel like the Evil Shark, just looking for blood. 5 minutes in when making her drink she joins me in the kitchen I feel the urge right there. I hold off because I know sex is double signed X and with more energy with 3/4 of a drink done for both of us.

On the couch after lots of strong eye contact she shows me some pictures, I put my hand on her gorgeous tanned supple thigh. She wears glasses, has long shampoo fresh hair, light make up, a deep pleasing even tan, a cute full of life demeanor. I don't care what's coming out of her mouth, even though she is surprisingly practical.

The ADHD Monster I have to remember. He is the 800lbs Gorilla in the room. You can never choke this fucker out with young girls. Instead it is a cage match where you are a magician fooling Him with illusions, smoke, and mirrors so he tires himself out.

Finally I am calm, I feel aggressive she has 3/4 of her drink done. There will be no more fucking dolphin cockblocking.

I go immediately for the makeout, when she's laughing (another tip to Gary Brodsky old school OG). I never slow escalate, I rarely fail to close or get anything but the lightest LMR once I make a move. It is the only natural game I have other than teasing. Also know when to go for a close and how much aggression to put into that first make out.

This works like this because I think with that Evil Shark mindest, that stare that demeanor - she is getting a movie preview trailer to what is guaranteed to happen in the bedroom. This isn't play time. This is war.

Hand down to pussy, her hand to my cock. I get my dick out, this point I don't wait for the couch to get awkward. I simply got up took her hand and lead her to my bedroom.

I have seen girls fall on my bed with a smile on their face. I know there won't be resistance it is a great feeling.

This time she came behind me like a giddy school girl. There was not just no resistance she was like a kid at the front of the line at Disneyland, not in an over aggressive slutty tacky way - no just excited like people are on Christmas Eve. It felt good.

I like foreign women.

We quickly stripped and after all this I got that fucking condom on and went to work ASAP. There was a lot of redemption in this bang. It was glorious. She has a extremely cute face and tremendously proportional and even tanned body, supple like only these chicks can have... why do I live here... I know again.

I hit it in multiple positions, I feel like putting on some fireworks.

You guys know the squirt hand method well here is something I have taught a few player friends. A player friend locally actually opened the door to my bedroom and saw me doing it to a chick and inquired.

When you want to do the SpiderMan Squirt Hand, drag a girl so she is on her back, her ass is perched at the edge of the bed, her feet planted on the ground, her head resting with her entire torso on the bed....

Here's the tricky part... use your outer knee to apply pressure to her upper pussy area HARD you get a ton of leverage with the mattress's edge and her feet planted on the floor. Girls every time, she squirt about a foot high splashing against my palm. Some girls I can be near 2ft high.

I lose my boner, haven't cum, I need a break I am emotionally exhausted. I emotionally invested a lot into this affair.

She recommends we go back to watch the movie, we laugh again and watch the movie. I ask her did she like my dream, she said she thought it was really sexy. Never underestimate how much girls dig cheesy PG-13 sexual innuendo texts. Romance novel tripe. I thought I may have been done being satisfied with how things went. That Indian Basement Lab Knock Off Cialis got the best of me. I go make out again get her to start rubbing me she says:

"Haha want to go for round 2?"

Again she skips happily behind me to the bedroom. We strip faster this time and she is on top. We switch to her bent over the bed... her ass is tremendous, everything is. I take off the condom and go bareback in her ass. It is tremendous.

I don't do this often, but it is one of those risks in life I take. It is just that good.

Shoot all over her back...

We go chill again, and she leaves soon after. It is a school night after all.

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Thank you everyone for your time and consideration.

I carry you all with me in spirit when I Game.

Oh yeah, top that motherfuckers....

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So the question is why did she bolt at end of Date 1? I didn't ask I want to keep this chick smooth with me definite repeat material.

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(08-05-2015 07:48 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  I like "You know I had a dream about you last night" (or some customized variation of that) for restarting the romanticly inclined chiquitas.

Curious to see what happens if you get another chance at this

That's whats great about new crops of young chicks: old school becomes new again. You're welcome.