Post: #101

The lecture exceeded my expectations. Great to meet Roosh, Benoit, tylerdurden1993 and Teedub, among others. I was a little surprised by the lack of forum members in the crowd actually. A lot of the guys I talked to seemed to be off of ROK.

Post: #102

Hey guys,

Been reflecting today on the London Lecture yesterday. I’m new to this forum and to the Roosh ecosystem overall so I was a little apprehensive with all the talk of disruption etc, but in the end, it all passed off really well. I was the guy in the Pink Polo T-Shirt with red hair….

I’ll echo the thoughts of other attendees, in that the Lecture was excellent and the attendees were all really very smart guys, and it was a pleasure talking to everyone and getting to know people. It was also great meeting Roosh in person. You can tell he’s been running game for years, because he has a very easy style which makes him approachable and great to talk to. I’ve met other famous PUA’s in the past and they always seemed aloof, but not Roosh…. He’s also a lot taller than YouTube led me to believe….

The Q&A was fascinating…. almost as long as the lecture and everyone who wanted to ask questions got the chance to do so. It was more of an ideological discussion in places, rather than a game seminar, but these were the issues that people wanted to address and the discussions were deep and informative.

I did sense a latent fear of the BBC being present, myself included, but Roosh gently tooled Rege Yates whilst he had the chance which made me smile… I definitely think we got the message across to the film crew, that most people think little, of this left-wing, state funded, destroyer-of-truth-in-favour-of-Marxist-spin organisation, but it will be fascinating to see how they craft their documentary around the footage they got.

We ended up in O’Neil’s Leicester Square, which is 4 floors of chaos on a Saturday night. It’s my old pickup territory from back in 2006 and fond memories of the old LSS crew flooded back on re-entry to the venue. My only feedback for improvement of this tour, would be that it might be a good idea to at least have an idea of which bars/clubs you want to hit in each location, BEFORE you take a group of 40 guys out for a giant ideological discussion/gamefest…. We were lucky with O’Neil’s because it has no dress code and an easy door policy and there are lots of girls in there, but you might be better off having something at least outlined, prior to the next events….

I managed to stay out until about 3am when I just ran out of steam…. Got big eyes and smiles off a very cute little Brazillian chick towards the end of my night. With an IOI like that, the opener was a no-risk breeze (“Are you Spanish?”) and we chatted a little. She asked me a whole bunch of questions about my logistics, (Where I live, am I staying over, where is my hotel etc) which led me to believe she might have been on for a quick Bang. Alas, my suggestion of “Would you like to come back and find out” was received with a look of disgust and the advice that, if I wanted sex, I was more likely to “find it over there on the dancefloor”…. I then watched and smiled as her cute ass toddled off toward the exit with her 2 friends in tow, nose held high…..

I Realised just how rusty my night game is after a nearly 9 year Hiatus, so the chance to meet a group of guys who might be hitting London regularly was a big reason I attended. Definitely up for follow on meet ups with this crowd. I’m sure we’ll get something organised shortly…..

Roosh Lecture Tour – London - Nighthawk Rating : = Bang Tidy….

Nighthawk

Post: #103

66 people attended the London show, wow!

You may need a concert hall for the Toronto event.

Post: #104

(07-05-2015 11:53 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote:He couldn't even honestly answer Roosh's question - "How often do you get women throwing themselves at you?"

What did he answer?

Something about being in the business since he was 8. Then he changed the subject to him being engaged.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #105

Nighthawk, are you guy I was talking about libertarianism with?

Post: #106

(07-05-2015 12:13 PM)Deluge Wrote:  The lecture exceeded my expectations. Great to meet Roosh, Benoit, tylerdurden1993 and Teedub, among others. I was a little surprised by the lack of forum members in the crowd actually. A lot of the guys I talked to seemed to be off of ROK.

Haha, like I said to you yesterday - I would have loved a special RVF 'top-table' so that we could converse in secret, away from the prying eyes of the BBC!

Post: #107

Meeting people with the same views is usually good fun

Post: #108

BBC hit piece coming in 3... 2...

Post: #109

Roosh, get a legal form/waiver written up for film crews if they want to film (or use any other forms of capture media) to assure they give anonymity to all the people who are in the crowd.

I am sure one of the many RVF members attending the lectures is a lawyer and can quickly draft one up for you.

Post: #110

Congrats on the successes of your Berlin & London lectures so far Roosh. I may attend your Montreal one as I'm likely to be there at that time.

Post: #111

(07-05-2015 04:40 PM)aphelion Wrote:  BBC hit piece coming in 3... 2...

"Baddy baddy nasty men who you must fear do something not completely leftist and it's outrageous: click here to be informed how you must think."

Post: #112

Just got home from London. As others have said it was a great event.

(07-05-2015 03:19 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

(07-05-2015 11:53 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote:He couldn't even honestly answer Roosh's question - "How often do you get women throwing themselves at you?"

What did he answer?

Something about being in the business since he was 8. Then he changed the subject to him being engaged.

Reggie said he'd swat them away to which I think most attendees scoffed at. One attendee (sorry, can't remember your name) however vouched for him saying he saw Reggie dj'ing in Ibiza or somewhere and he was indeed dismissing the women.

I was expecting more of the speech would focus on society and other things in the 'manosphere' (based on the Berlin replies) rather than just on dealing with women, but it was great all the same.

One hilarious moment I wish i had on camera was when Roosh had his arms stretched out to the sides, he looked to the roof and said with a massive smile "ok I admit it, I've banged fat chicks".

There was general paranoia about journalists during the break between the speech and the q&a session; one attendee quipped "basically anyone taking notes is a journalist". Hey, I was taking notes!

The q&a session was great - I thought over 2hrs would have been too long, but there were probably more questions still to be asked. I liked hearing everyone's questions since it gave me a new viewpoint to consider.

A surpise for me was the number of fathers present. I was semi expecting the room to be full of sharply dressed jacked guys all about the pussy pussy pussy. All the dads there asked at least one question about how best to raise their kids in a toxic environment. It really was an eye opener, I can't imagine the pressure to ensure your own offspring don't get brain washed. I'm nowhere near close to being a father, but hat tip to you guys.

I know of a lot of fathers who are weak men and failed to do a good job. Its awesome that guys like you are proactive instead of just letting your kids go with the flow.

The meet and greet was great. I was feeling a bit insecure having read the Berlin feedback that all the attendees were elite guys who had their shit together, so I was a little bit cagey and only talked about 'safe' topics. I was the NZ guy in glasses first question asking everyone how they first found out about Roosh.

Reading the feedback here, there were people talking about libertarianism and economics. I would LOVED to have discussed that with like minded guys. As I'm writing this, I realised I was still speaking through a filter when I had no need.
Tip if you're attending the next lectures!

Other attendees noted that everyone present were above average guys. You will be in a room full of straight up intelligent guys. I work in IT so am surrounded by nerdy intelligent guys everyday so I didn't really appreciate this fully.

It was only after the fact that I wished I had broached the topics I really wanted to talk about - I stuck mainly to talking about others experiences with game.

As Roosh said, it was pretty funny walking like a man train down the street and descending like a rain of cocks into the first pub for drinks. Some of the BBC guys stuck around, but I didn't talk to them. Did anyone else speak to them at the pub?

It was pretty funny to see Roosh talking about something at a small table and a circle of guys standing around the small table nodding in agreement. A couple of us were sitting at another table having some food. We saw that and though shit, Roosh is holding court and we're missing out!

Roosh's official camera guy (forgot your forum name) was talking to a group of 3 girls on the street. As Roosh went to join him "to make sure that he was ok" (haha) Damok said that is a beautiful sight. Indeed.

After, we tried to find another pub which was quiet enough to hold a conversation (I didn't get a chance to talk with everyone unfortunately), but couldn't find one so took the tube to Piccadilly circus (central London) and went into a loud Irish pub.

The camera guy was an approach machine. He, like Roosh, is a tall good looking well built guy who dressed sharply and he still got dismissed by pretty average looking women.

I'm still undecided if I find that encouraging or discouraging. Roosh has already mentioned the women acting like celebrity models. If top guys who have honed their style and spent YEARS perfecting and distilling their game to snipe pussy find it difficult, what chance is there for the guy who is only slightly above average after self improvement?

I only did a few token approaches, one pretty British girl mentioned her boyfriend was standing beside me as I was talking her. I also remember talking to a short pretty average looking bored Brazilian girl in a white dress but it didn't go anywhere.

All in all, a great experience. When I first read about the Roosh lecture, I wasn't sure if I should go, but reading the Berlin feedback all said it was worth it. Roosh is an approachable guy and you will also meet a ton of guys who "get it" and shoot shit for the night.

I'm also looking forward to the BBC program to see how much it contrasts with my experience. Does anyone know the name of the expose series and when it will be shown?

Written on my phone so sorry for any autocorrect mistakes.

Post: #113

As many have mentioned already, it was an interesting event and a great opportunity to meet so many like-minded, yet diverse individuals.

(07-05-2015 07:40 AM)Roosh Wrote:  British girls didn't really give me much love except for just one girl who said she liked the American accent, even though the quality all-around wasn't that high and the they seem to be nearly universally chubby and doughy. I guess this is why guys in London go for the foreign girls.

As I said on the night, I firmly believe that central London is a terrible place for night game. Anywhere in and around Leicester square are just overun with tourists. Most of the girls are mediocre and aren't even receptive to being approached. Places like Camden, Shoreditch and Clapham are much better suited to night game.

(07-05-2015 05:02 AM)damok Wrote:  A special mention must go to Mike (Roosh's official videographer) who opened like a machine. You know you are doing well when Roosh says 'that man does the work'!.

I bailed after 3am leaving Mike and Roosh in a set with two Polish girls - I hope it ended well!! Roosh makes good on his promise to stay until the last man leaves - brilliant!

Thanks man! Really cool meeting you. Let me know when you're back in London. Roosh's one was Polish, mine was German. They seemed into us but suddenly went cold towards closing time. The German chick probably felt bad about having a boyfriend back at home. We stayed out until about 4am. It was hilarious to see Roosh interacting with that girl from Newcastle after their 'altercation'. Girls just love drama.

If anyone is interested in a London meet up this month, send me a PM.

Post: #114

(07-05-2015 06:45 PM)spi Wrote:  Some of the BBC guys stuck around, but I didn't talk to them. Did anyone else speak to them at the pub?

Yeah I did for a while. They didn't seem to have a particular agenda on face value. Whilst they agreed on the lack of masculine portrayal in the mainstream media, they did feel that Roosh's stance on homosexuality and feminism was slightly overblown.

(07-05-2015 06:45 PM)spi Wrote:  The camera guy was an approach machine. He, like Roosh, is a tall good looking well built guy who dressed sharply and he still got dismissed by pretty average looking women.

Looking back at the footage, Roosh addresses this near the beginning of the speech: 'Women are encouraged to sleep with the highest value man she can get. In the past a woman who was a 6, wanted a guy who was a 6. But now, she wants and can a guy who is an 8.'

Post: #115

Quote:they did feel that Roosh's stance on homosexuality and feminism was slightly overblown.

Something that Reggie retweeted:

   

It must be a coincidence that the crews' views match that of the BBC and Gay Times and elite universities and the EU in Brussels and the White House and Hollywood and Starbucks and ....

Post: #116

(07-05-2015 06:45 PM)spi Wrote:  One hilarious moment I wish i had on camera was when Roosh had his arms stretched out to the sides, he looked to the roof and said with a massive smile "ok I admit it, I've banged fat chicks".

Post: #117

^^ It was a sarcastic [email protected][email protected]

Or was it...

Post: #118

(07-05-2015 09:47 PM)Roosh Wrote:  ^^ It was a sarcastic [email protected][email protected]

Or was it...

Haha the older members know the truth,

Post: #119

(07-05-2015 06:45 PM)spi Wrote:  Reggie said he'd swat them away to which I think most attendees scoffed at. One attendee (sorry, can't remember your name) however vouched for him saying he saw Reggie dj'ing in Ibiza or somewhere and he was indeed dismissing the women.

That in itself means little. Actually if he was dismissing the women trying to sleep with him, then it's either a highly ethical saintly Alpha or rather a Blue Pill chump.

He is a celeb who gets infinite pussy without Game or any Alpha state at all.

Also as I said before - even if he is a Red Pill Alpha in private, then he cannot show it at all during the job. At best if he likes what he saw, then he will try to not make it too much of a hit-piece. But of course there are also other producers above him.

The media is silencing the 'sphere for a good reason. They know that an open debate would make many men associate with them. That's why they sometimes let Milo or women talk for us, because heterosexual men would not identify as much with them - all despite Milo doing good work. But I am sure he is fully aware that they invite him because he is gay and can speak his mind freely - he even mentioned it on TV recently.

As far as I remember he said something that if you are gay or lesbian you can get away with murder in our society - heh.

Post: #120

Remember how the BBC works. Whilst the crew on the ground might agree that there is a lack or under-representation of masuclinity in the mainstream media, the BBC bigwigs making 6 figures a year either disagree or don't care.

Post: #121

Did you specifically get a legal notice to blur faces?

The BBC don't just have a cultural opinion, they have the thinking that people should be informed about this as propaganda.

I have watched a couple of mini-documentaries from Reggie and an interesting one I can say is the one from South Africa and the poor whites he stayed with.

Whether he can set aside his own life choices and experiences and not see it as a bunch of men who have it good is to be seen. The footage he gathered will be used as part of a larger piece which will include feminism I am sure of it.

Post: #122

Girls do love drama!

Post: #123

(07-06-2015 06:24 AM)britchard Wrote:  Remember how the BBC works. Whilst the crew on the ground might agree that there is a lack or under-representation of masuclinity in the mainstream media, the BBC bigwigs making 6 figures a year either disagree or don't care.

Maybe a little off topic. Or not:

What is the current legal basis of the TV License? In this day and age it seems ridiculous. Why should the BBC get public money while other media groups get nothing? And what justification is there that "bigwigs" get bonuses if their organisation is dependent on public money. Actually not even public money, as in taxes, but money directly from the public in the form of a licence fee.

Has the licence fee ever been challenged in court in the UK? I know very well that any presiding judge would likely be chums with BBC board members, but you never know...

In any event, sounds like it was a great event. If I was anywhere in Northern Europe at the time would definitely have been there.

Post: #124

(07-05-2015 06:25 PM)kosko Wrote:  Roosh, get a legal form/waiver written up for film crews if they want to film (or use any other forms of capture media) to assure they give anonymity to all the people who are in the crowd.

I am sure one of the many RVF members attending the lectures is a lawyer and can quickly draft one up for you.

Shouldn't be necessary. As someone in the video production industry I deal with this kind of thing often. If you're on private property or have been invited/allowed to film something then the film crew must get waivers from all the people who's faces will be shown on camera. That's why its called a waiver, the subject has to allow the use of their image. Its an opt-in situation for the subject, not opt-out. The status quo is they can't use your image, unless you specifically say they can.

Your right to privacy is the default unless you waive that right. (At least in the western countries that roosh will be in. In Botswana or something, all bets are off.)

Any professional production team would be well aware of this and follow the normal guidelines. For the people that didn't agree to be filmed there is nothing to worry about.

Here's a good link to an interview with a media lawyer on the topic:
http://www.reelseo.com/video-waivers/


Edit- to clarify, its not only on private property where you have a right to privacy, it can also be in public as well, depending on the situation. But for the most part, if you're out in public then things change. And if the video is of a public situation deemed "newsworthy" then you usually have no right to privacy and a film crew does not need any waivers to show your image.

Post: #125

(07-06-2015 01:55 PM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  What is the current legal basis of the TV License? In this day and age it seems ridiculous. Why should the BBC get public money while other media groups get nothing?

The only thing that I agree on in terms of the license fee is for things like major sporting tournaments, which in my opinion shouldn't be on subscription TV (yeah, I know the licence is technically a subscription though)....things like the Olympics, Wimbledon and the World Cup. The BBC doesn't have adverts, which massively improves viewing pleasure in my opinion. I've seen American TV and it's even worse, crazy in fact, in terms of how many advertisements occur during shows.

Apart from that, it seems the BBC spend the rest on reality TV shows and authoritarian-progressive documentaries. So I'm in two minds really.