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(06-18-2015 11:42 AM)Sudden Wrote:  Kaotic, based on that rape comment, it sounds like he had the typical omega incel issue that generally accompanies these wackos. And while game may have helped him out, I think a big part depends on where his exposure to game is coming from.


This is Vox Day's description of an Omega, and it matches my impression of the shooter.

Vox Day Wrote:Sigmas - the lone wolves. Occasionally mistaken for Alphas, particularly by women and Alphas, they are not leaders and will actively resist the attempt of others to draft them. Alphas instinctively view them as challenges and either dislike or warily respect them. Some Deltas and most Omegas fancy themselves Sigmas, but the true Sigma's withdrawal from the pack is not a reaction to the way he is treated, it is pure instinct. Example: Clint Eastwood's movie persona. Suggestion: Entertain the possibility that other people are not always Hell. The banal idiocy is incidental, it's not intentional torture.

Omegas - the losers. Even the Gamma males despise them. That which doesn't kill them can make them stronger, but most never surmount the desperate need to belong caused by their social rejection. Omegas can be the most dangerous of men because the pain of their constant rejection renders the suffering of others completely meaningless in their eyes. Omegas tend to cluster in defensive groups; the dividing line between the Omega and the Sigma is twofold and can be easily recognized by a) the behavior of male Betas and Deltas and b) the behavior of women. Women tend to find outliers attractive in general, but while they respond to Sigmas almost as strongly as they do to Alphas, they correctly find Omega males creepier and much scarier than Gamma males. Example: Eric Harris Suggestion: Your rejection isn't entirely personal. Observe the difference in your own behavior and the way the Betas act. And try not to start off conversations with women by sharing "interesting facts" with them.
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(06-18-2015 11:33 AM)Sudden Wrote:  I generally define terrorism as an act of violence against a civilian target done for political motives. Given that, Adam Lanza and James Holmes were not terrorists, Anders Breveiks and Dylann Roof are.

I agree on this - I don't give a shit what color/religion you are, but if you're killing innocent civilians for political/religious/racial motives, that's fucking terrorism.

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Blames minorities for things.....


..... Drives a Korean car.

This is meme worthy.

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(06-18-2015 12:06 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Blames minorities for things.....


..... Drives a Korean car.

This is meme worthy.

Not funny, man.

Days of Broken Arrows nailed it much better, so something like, "Thinks Black people are raping White women; kills Blacks people who have the strongest families and strongest anti-rape sentiments."

But why even meme this at all? Why not just be sad?
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Why kill Christians at a prayer meeting? If he's pissed at blacks, why not hunt down the guy who cut the firehose or some local gang members? Was he targeting someone at the meeting? There's a lot that doesn't make sense here.
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My reaction is horror, bewilderment, disgust and anger.
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I blame this on rape hysteria. When all you hear is "rapity rape rape rape!" in our society, of course the nuts are going to do crazy shit.

This nut thought all the blacks were raping the white women. He fancies himself a white knight protecting the honor of white women being raped by black men.

Moral panics are never good for a society , and rape hysteria is especially invidious and causing craziness on our campuses and elsewhere.

Take care of those titties for me.
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(06-18-2015 12:18 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  Why kill Christians at a prayer meeting? If he's pissed at blacks, why not hunt down the guy who cut the firehose or some local gang members? Was he targeting someone at the meeting? There's a lot that doesn't make sense here.

A healthy mind will not be able to make sense of it. It takes wild leaps to connect the dots in an insane mind.

Unfortunately, crazy is as crazy does.
What was this kid's life like that he did this? Was he really just truly insane, or what?

When it comes out his reasons why he did this, we need to look at what led him to the reasoning process. Was it internal or external?

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If a dude has a bowl cut and has never been laid there's a 90% chance he's going to shoot up a public place sometime soon.
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(06-18-2015 12:18 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  Why kill Christians at a prayer meeting? If he's pissed at blacks, why not hunt down the guy who cut the firehose or some local gang members? Was he targeting someone at the meeting? There's a lot that doesn't make sense here.

The specific church he chose has historical significance related to the 1960's civil rights movement. It almost certainly was not a random selection.
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Nah Dusty, I doubt this has anything to do with the rape culture witch hunts, especially since most of that is geared towards dramatically over-representing the risk of rape from white men.

What probably influenced his view of blacks as a threat to white female chastity more than anything is internet porn, the fetishization of the black male libido, and the rise of white guilt homo-cuck.
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That guy is just another one of those Elliot Rodger, Colombine killers types of looneys who but also visited Stormfront forums way too often. I bet this is going to trigger more debates about gun laws in this country.
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(06-18-2015 12:54 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  That guy is just another one of those Elliot Rodger, Colombine killers types of looneys who but also visited Stormfront forums way too often. I bet this is going to trigger more debates about gun laws in this country.

No this is not just another Elliot Rodgers/Columbine killer, what have you been reading ?

The dude left one victim alive and explained what he was doing. Have you seen his jacket with his flag patches ?

Come on now. Dodgy

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(06-18-2015 01:24 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 12:54 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  That guy is just another one of those Elliot Rodger, Colombine killers types of looneys who but also visited Stormfront forums way too often. I bet this is going to trigger more debates about gun laws in this country.

No this is not just another Elliot Rodgers/Columbine killer, what have you been reading ?

What I meant was that this guy is most likely a sociopath who got bullied often in school and is taking out his "frustrations" on black people. And looking from the flags on his coat was an avid reader of White supremacy blogs/forums. The only difference I see between Colombine/Rodger and this guy was that he didnt kill himself.
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(06-18-2015 10:15 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's starting to feel like a race war.
Not at all. A 21 year old loser with a lack of compassion for his fellow man does not get to dictate race relations. The only race war is NASCAR vs Formula 1, don't let the media or lone shooter losers try to persuade you otherwise. I am now going outside to enjoy this great summer weather in this wonderful country.
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(06-18-2015 01:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:15 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's starting to feel like a race war.
Not at all. A 21 year old loser with a lack of compassion for his fellow man does not get to dictate race relations. The only race war is NASCAR vs Formula 1, don't let the media or lone shooter losers try to persuade you otherwise. I am now going outside to enjoy this great summer weather in this wonderful country.

I think he is referring to all the events in the last 12 month or so.... including the medias love fest for anything white on black.
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Well if he was angry about being a virgin and not getting enough sex, all of that will be solved in prison.

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How much you want to bet this guy was raised by single mother without or a weak father figure in this life.i feel these incidents are not about the ideology themselves. But are simply lost young men venting their frustration.This frustration causes them to latch onto extreme ideologies I don’t think banning guns would be a solution as these lunatics will find some other way to kill. A solution for him would’ve been to join the military that would have given guidance in purpose in his life
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(06-18-2015 01:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:15 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's starting to feel like a race war.
Not at all. A 21 year old loser with a lack of compassion for his fellow man does not get to dictate race relations. The only race war is NASCAR vs Formula 1, don't let the media or lone shooter losers try to persuade you otherwise. I am now going outside to enjoy this great summer weather in this wonderful country.

The media probably won't persuade many on this forum, but they sure as fuck will persuade a large percentage of the population from all races. There has been a narrative in the media of growing racial tensions ever since Trayvon and the media, not this 21 year old loser, is dictating race relations.

They have been playing to the emotions and racism on both sides, playing up the white racist cop/black victim narrative where it didn't necessarily exist, while at the same time focusing almost exclusively on the black looters and rioters when the vast majority were peaceful protesters. It's as though they want to rile up both sides. I don't know what it is, but there is an agenda here.
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One thing that I don't want to happen here is for this to be wrapped into the "black lives matter" meme, which is a response to police brutality. I think this guy is an outlier and not representative of the population. There are always going to be lone, wackos who want to lash out like this. If this guy lived in an all white country he might have shot people up for some other reason like the Colombine duo or Eliot Rodgers. I don't think something like this should be allowed to effect race relations. He doesn't represent anyone.
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The OP started the thread with sadistic glee:

"Terrorism is not only from people claiming to be from Islam"

Resorting to strawman, tu quoque, and "no true Scotsman" fallacies at the same time: insecure much?

Edit: added "Scotsman" after not catching the sly "claiming [to believe in core tenets of Islam]"
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So he sat there for an hour in a little prayer meeting yet no one there had talked to him or knew who he was? that doesn't seem right.

Most any church if you are new, someone - whether its the priest or member or whatever will walk up and say hi to you at minimum. to 'welcome' you or whatever.

They really conducted a routine prayer meeting with some unknown creepy white kid staring at them for an hour? and no one talked to him? I don't really believe what the media is reporting.

Plus if he tried to get away, why would he deliberately leave that 1 witness to 'tell everyone what happened' ?
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