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(09-21-2018 03:53 AM)Orson Wrote:  Con Law Prof at UC-Berkely, Steven Hayward, has picked up the Ed Whelen 'mistaken identity' theory at the right-wing blog Powerlineblog (as below)
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2...tity-2.php

This means that Friday talk-radio will be discussing this theroy today, at least - since many such personalities - Rush Limbaugh being the biggest (although he's taking this today off) - follow this outlet. Who knows how far it will break...?

I got to know Hayward while he taught at the Univerity of Colorado at Boulder, not many years ago (and since then because he visits Colorado once or twice a year). Since he highlights the Kavanaugh and Mr X similarity today at Powerlineblog, I'll share the recent photos here, too:


Kavanaugh on the left; Mr X on the right.

Maanwhile on Thursday night, The Bezo's owned Wash Post published a denial that Dr Ford could have confused the two above men:
Quote:Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”

Republicans on Capitol Hill and White House officials immediately sought to distance themselves from Whelan’s claims and said they were not aware of his plans to identify the former classmate, now a middle school teacher, who could not be reached for comment and did not answer the door at his house Thursday night.

Whelan did not respond to requests for comment....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...4bc5fbfc22

(09-20-2018 10:15 PM)Orson Wrote:   the look-alike or Doppelganger theory of mistaken identity? Kavanaugh classmate and football team-member...did he do it?

Did Christine Ford mis-identify a real perp? I see that somebody else has caught on to Ed Whelan's tease, running throughout the day on Twitter and even at Politico.

Basically, that's the Whelan theory. And Tweets compiled at Zerohedge starts with the general house interior that Ford has claimed for her assault, and finds one house that fits - and was once the home of a man that looked like Kavanaugh back then and looks like him today!

A pithy comment sums-up the tight reasoning:
Quote:Start with the facts available in Christine's story. She says the house was near the Columbia Country Club. [Ed] Whelan gave the locations of the houses of all of the other people Christine claims were present. Christine gives the number of people present -- five -- (1) herself, (2) her female friend, (3) Mark Judge, (4) P.J. Smyth, and (5) __________.

Kavenaugh's family home was not close to the country club. But [Mr X]'s was.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-2...ry-emerges

INCREDIBLE? I'll leave it up to you to have a look - compare the portraits, POST them here, perhaps - but I'd say this is more than probably the case.

Well...HERE we go: Kavaunaugh and Mr X:


Here's Ed Whelan's Twitter comment:
"Folks who knew both Kavanaugh and [Mr x] in high school have commented on how much they resembled each other in appearance. Here are Kavanaugh and [Mr X] in their senior yearbook photos."

(I won't name the possible cad - I see no indication if he's been reached and questioned, yet.)

If so, the scheduled Senate hearing will collapse before or by Monday.

J'acuse, Dr Ford? --- YOU BE WRONG, bitch! WAY wrong! (I think is a pungent vernacular.)

HAVE A LOOK AND SHARE YOU OPINION HERE!

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(09-20-2018 06:00 PM)Hypno Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 05:34 PM)Adonis Wrote:  If you really want a mind fuck, read this Twitter thread


Per ZH, this is a former Scalia clerk. Means he is an accomplished lawyer. He wouldn't say this if he didn't have a basis for it. I wonder if its more than her yearbook entries.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-2...-next-week

I say Trump should flip the script on the Senator from China and subpoena the false-rape-accuser. Have her admit that it was all a con and set up a basis for a libel lawsuit. Then censure Feinstein for her conduct and boot her from the Committee. Her conduct is a disgrace to the political system, to women who have actually been assaulted, and to a sitting DC Circuit Justice.

WHo is the senator from China? Hirono?

Maybe I am just jaded, but I don't even want to entertain the notion that she was assaulted at all. For what she describes, it sounds terrible and she should have told her parents. UNLESS she liked it!

That's why Trump tweeted "Her loving parents", because no decent parent would let that shit slide at all.

I don't think it happened at all. I think the shit is completely made up. Her own classmate basically admitted to lying about hearing about the attack on Facebook. So now all we have is her word from 36 years ago that she apparently told nobody else?

She can get the fuck outta here with that bullshit!

Begone foul witch! You wore a anti-Trump sign, is a card carrying feminist, wore a pussyhat, and was a terrible professor to your students. You have no credibility here!

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(09-21-2018 11:04 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Could be a negotiating tactic.

Agree to redact UK/Australian bad faith spying efforts in to get something else from them in trade/etc.

While everyone still knows what they did.

Most Americans care far more about our institutions being corrupt than foreign institutions.

The Democrats were calling for WAR with Russia over "interfering in our elections". They compared it to 9/11 repeatedly. Somehow I doubt they will say anything like that about the UK & Aussies, they will justify the behavior as morally responsible most likely and side with them against America. Treason...
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(09-21-2018 11:04 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Could be a negotiating tactic.

Agree to redact UK/Australian bad faith spying efforts in to get something else from them in trade/etc.

While everyone still knows what they did.

Most Americans care far more about our institutions being corrupt than foreign institutions.

The UK and AUS according to rumors have already asked for this information to stay classified.

That's absolutely a indicator of political maneuvering.

Trump loves trades and deals. I would not make that deal. You have to draw the line somewhere ethically and morally, this will come out in full details 75-100 years later after Trump has died, giving left bent historians free reign to attack his ethics tarnishing his legacy, and this is his only free chance to push for a new "group" of counterparts to work with.

Let's be real here May sucks, is a complete bitch, and she hates Trump's guts. The UK has completely disrespected our president too many times to count in the past 2 years. I don't know much about Morrison, but if he or Turnbull had anything to do with this, they deserve any misfortune the Aussies can provide. I would not hold my breath, because UK and Australian people do not appear to be ready for changes, but the seed can always be planted for a later growth. They at least deserve the truth.

Trump loves revenge. As a Christian, I do not approve of that stuff, because God always repays the evil ones. If no good deed goes unpunished, can you imagine a bad one? That said, I would release it all because this has nothing to do with revenge but transparency and good values.

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(09-21-2018 11:08 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  
(09-21-2018 11:04 AM)Enoch Wrote:  Could be a negotiating tactic.

Agree to redact UK/Australian bad faith spying efforts in to get something else from them in trade/etc.

While everyone still knows what they did.

Most Americans care far more about our institutions being corrupt than foreign institutions.

The Democrats were calling for WAR with Russia over "interfering in our elections". They compared it to 9/11 repeatedly. Somehow I doubt they will say anything like that about the UK & Aussies, they will justify the behavior as morally responsible most likely and side with them against America. Treason...

Exactly. No one is going to call for war over this. There is no real risk. If Cautious Trey Gowdy thinks it is a big nothing that in his words "Will change nobody's opinions on either side." then there is no security risk. He never sticks his neck out for anything or anybody, even Trump, so that is saying something.

From a strategy perspective, is it better to let Islamic terror to fester in the UK, or provide the catalyst that pushes back on it by proxy? Any UK citizen can travel here for tourism you know. What good is terror network sharing if they can just get their UK passport or French one, then come here to attack us?

The truth is that we are not anywhere near on the same page with our allies as we used to be.

That relationship needs to be re-evaluated.

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Feinstein is the senator from China. She had a Chinese spy on her staff for 20 years, and her husband has done lucrative business with the Chinese government

Trump should tell the committee that he's asked them to subpoena Ford. She's the one who started this, if she has important information then the committee ought to hear it. She should not be the one telling the committee who they subpoena. The president nominated this judge, he should tell the committee who they should subpoena
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(09-21-2018 10:03 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

President Trump - no doubt having perused our thread here: /thread-57929.html - seems to have found a simple and punchy way of naming, designating our enemies:

Radical Left.

I like it. It's both simple and damning, as it has tones of Radical Islamist, radical insurgent. And not as much, say, automatically linked to Alt-Right as Alt-Left would have seemed. So, radical left it is, as previously foreseen here: /thread-57929...pid1632933

Back to the case at hand now: President Trump is of course right, reminding people by Tweet that, if one is aware of a crime having been (allegedly) perpetrated, one must report the fact to the authorities. It is not an option, it is mandatory, and I think that by not reporting a crime, one is in fact committing a crime (or misdemeanor) in itself.

Quoting the law: "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both"
On top of that, if the parents of the Christine drunkard had known about (alleged) facts, and not reported them, they would have been considered "mandatory reporters" gravely failing in their task.

So, if anyone had knowledge of a supposed crime in the Christine woman past, one should have filed a report decades ago, necessarily. So, where are such reports? Answer is: obviously they don't exist, and the whole accusation is bogus.
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BRILLIANT!

All we can do is be proactive but hey if the GOP wants to play to lose we have to hightail it out of America. Only reasons why I read this board is to laugh and to get a trend of where everything is heading.

"For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop."

Nice point and I never considered that angle! I'm a nice person but that devil on my shoulder is gleefully rubbing his hands. I speak for myself when or if that day of reckoning comes and I'm safely tucked away with loads of money but man these never trumpers, cuckservatives, and liberal retards really had it coming. Learn new skills, stockpile money, make valuable connections! I never said it here but if Clinton won I would have been out of the country within months.

(09-21-2018 10:42 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Just to play devil's advocate why do people think post Trump will be a disaster? Is he not stacking the courts in conservatives' favor (playing the long term game)? There's always Jim Jordan right? FYI I think he'll win 2020 and there's a 0% of him getting assassinated. In the latter case it probably would kickstart civil war.

On the other hand, the GOP has shown itself unwilling to help the average joe and beyond Jim Jordan I don't see anyone competent or trust them.
Pence: Koch brothers goon.
Trump Jr: Ok but Sr will always be better unless he gets a serious leg up from his dad. Could be why he's with that Latina.

And yes socialism is on the rise.

Still, wouldn't hurt to be proactive and stockpile money if leaving or other items and valuable connections if staying in America. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

There was an RVF post, maybe by Samseau or TK in detailing how all Trump is doing is offering everyone time. The correction and collapse are cooked and is not avoidable but instead of coming like a break it will be a slow boil but Trump is giving everyone time to get head and get ready. For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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Yes and No.

There is a chance. Yes, a chance, that Trump can reset the empire clock back, in the form of making a new era/empire.

If you look at the Roman Empire, the ~246 year max rule for empire before they could collapse, a few different times. Augustus, Trajan, etc. There are quite a few examples the more that I think about it. The Roman Empire was 600-ish years old. Technically speaking they should have had at least 3 collapses, which you could argue that it did happen, but they managed to recover them until it was not recoverable.

After Trump we actually have a few guys that are solid as fuck, unlike the Democrats. All they have are celebrities like Dwayne Johnson. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, are just the top two. Our bench is stronger than the Dem's main team. We have Trey Gowdy and others. With the exception of Jim and Matt, the rest are Trump-Lite for now, but that is better than what the other side has.

As for guys like Hypno and others suggesting that Trump do anything or go prosecute the bitch, etc. Just stop guys. Trump cannot do those things for the millionth time. That's outside the power the constitution grants him. Just let the process flow. It's messy for a reason. Why do you think Socrates disliked democracy? He knew it's weakness was the standards of education of the voters and that it made dumb people dumber.

Give a fool enough rope and they will always wring their own neck. The trolls on the forum, Nasa Test Pilot, Dragan, the pedo whose name I forgot, etc. all these guys hung themselves with only a little bit of work from us. Their arrogance and hubris was their downfall. Same thing with the Democrats. Their have grossly overplayed their own hand. Grassley and others are old enough and wise enough to notice this. They will maintain a fair process knowing that no matter what they are going to win, so why not get free political ad material? THEN after this circus is over, use the same footage to constantly remind voters of what the liberals did, in the form of ads, over and over.

American Politics is a game. ABC. Always Be Campaigning. You are never out of campaign mode. If your opponents are making massive mistakes, let em do it and use it for TV, internet, and radio advertisements.

Anyway as far as what Trump can do permanently to reset the clock for a while, is to shift American Politics to the right, so much so that the Democrat party would have to shift or stay dead or irrelevant for two decades possibly. They are likely stubborn enough to do that, but their base will make them get more radical as a reaction while shrinking in size. If they let pollsters and political scientists figure that out for them, they will shift more to the right and give up certain platforms until later.
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(09-21-2018 09:31 AM)kosko Wrote:  For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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Rosenstein needs to be fired immediately!


I wonder if Rod’s motive had anything to do with the fact he signed one of those illegal FISA warrants?

Of course it’s the Failing New York Slimes, so it could be:

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Rod says it’s fake news.

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(09-21-2018 11:41 AM)Hypno Wrote:  Feinstein is the senator from China. She had a Chinese spy on her staff for 20 years, and her husband has done lucrative business with the Chinese government

Trump should tell the committee that he's asked them to subpoena Ford. She's the one who started this, if she has important information then the committee ought to hear it. She should not be the one telling the committee who they subpoena. The president nominated this judge, he should tell the committee who they should subpoena

Hypno where do you get this stuff from? Are you from America or somewhere else?

He should not tell anyone anything. Trump has no power over the committee. The president appoints, the Senate confirms with a vote after it gets out of committee. That is how it works. Trump cannot demand anything. He is just egging on the Democrats and deriding the process, but he knows how it works. He isn't stupid.

Feinstein is just an old California ultra liberal feminist idiot. She's been a traitor to the country for decades, China links or not.

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(09-21-2018 01:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Rosenstein needs to be fired immediately!


I wonder if Rod’s motive had anything to do with the fact he signed one of those illegal FISA warrants?

Of course it’s the Failing New York Slimes, so it could be:



Rod says it’s fake news.

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Even if it was true, no need to overplay our cards just on that. Rod is dirty, but the reality is that Trump has him right where he needs him to be. The NYtimes is obviously trying to hook Trump with that one. It's pretty weak bait too. Nobody at the DOJ would think about a 25th just because of a FBI director firing. That's absurd. Nixon did the Saturday Massacre and nobody attempted that on him.

People need to realize that the 25th is mostly for medical incapacitation reasons mostly. So if a president has a massive heart attack, in ICU, but does not pass power to the VP. The nuke code carrier cannot be without a CiC that cannot give the codes for launches. That is a national security risk of the highest levels. That person will have to go to the VP immediately and the VP needs to be sworn in quickly. When POTUS recovers and can resume full duties, they go back to the elected president.

I bet if Hillary won, Tim Kaine would have been acting president at least once by now and possibly later in the next two years.

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NYTimes coup plot against Pres. Trump report by Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein

Yes, suspicions over an "unnamed source" used by the New York Times is very warranted. However, the thrust of the plot is consistent with the hysteria governing the Left since Trump's election. And the Deep State and Wash, DC is both motor-source - recall that with the Great Recession people said that even the world's financial capital, NYC, had moved to DC, ie, was POLITICIZED, and money and power is the bureaucrat's lust! - and victim of all these "vapors."

But it does seem to consistent the out of control Pravda-media and Marxist Democrat demagogue all-the-time smears we see, the document revelations coming from Congressional Committees, Judicial Watch, et al; and months and months of investigative reporter deep state reveals from Sara Carter, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett; now, Sean Hannity on radio, called our political situation an [Obamunist] "Banana Republic" at the end of hour one, exactly as per my avatar graphic (SEE SIDE BAR), given, the accumulated reports of coup plotting within the federal government in last night's John Solomon/Sara Carter reports, etcetera.

Thus, for the sake of clarity and further discussion in this thread, here's The Hill's multi-paragraph version of the NYTimes story, ie, Rod Rosenstein's plot and his denial:
Quote:Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein proposed secretly recording conversations in the Oval Office with President Trump last year and discussed the possibility of Cabinet officials invoking the 25th Amendment to remove the president, according to The New York Times.

The newspaper, citing people familiar with the matter, reported on Friday that Rosenstein made comments to other Justice Department officials in meetings in spring 2017 about secretly recording Trump after the president fired FBI Director James Comey in May.

Rosenstein reportedly made the remarks to then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who detailed Rosenstein's comments in memos, according to the unnamed sources cited by the Times.

In the discussions, Rosenstein reportedly floated the possibility of recruiting Cabinet secretaries, such as Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and White House chief of staff John Kelly behind an effort to invoke the 25th Amendment, which allows Cabinet members to remove the president by majority vote if they deem the president is unfit for office.

A Justice Department spokeswoman provided a comment to the Times from a person who was said to be present when Rosenstein reportedly suggested wearing a wire. That person, who was not named, said Rosenstein's remark was made sarcastically.

Rosenstein issued his own statement to the Times.

“The New York Times’s story is inaccurate and factually incorrect,” he said. “I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda."

"But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment,” he added.

Michael Bromwich, an attorney for McCabe, said in a statement after the Times article was published that the former FBI deputy director has “no knowledge” of how his memos were leaked to the media. The lawyer added that the memos have been provided to Mueller’s office.

"Andrew McCabe drafted memos to memorialize significant discussions he had with high level officials and preserved them so he would have an accurate, contemporaneous record of those discussions,” Bromwich said.

“When he was interviewed by the Special Counsel more than a year ago, he gave all of his memos -- classified and unclassified -- to the Special Counsel's office,” Bromwich added. “A set of those memos remained at the FBI at the time of his departure in late January 2018. He has no knowledge of how any member of the media obtained those memos."

The events, as reported by the Times, came after Trump fired Comey...
https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...with-trump

Andrew McCabe's memos confirm NYTimes story - “Accurate” - says his lawyer.

Sean Hannity think's this (RR's coup plot revelation), is a consequence of Trump siccing the IG - Inspector Generals office - on the release of all FISA documents from the FBI! (It's forced the traitorous "rats" to start running in fear.)

Vox is reporting that Rosenstein's resignation may be imminent. (GLEE!)

Greg Jarrett Tweets that RR was driven by vengeance!

Sarah Carter says that the noise for appointing Special Prosecutors to investigate - and federal people involved REMOVED! - is getting LOUDER!

Greg Jarrett says the revelation IS Rod Rosenstein's coup d'etat plot -- many need to be fired over this!

Carter says many NEED to be prosecuted, related to this.
(SOURCE: HANNITY radio, hour 2, first half)

Is the USA to be a government of laws? Or of men (ie, a Banana Republic)?

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budoslavic, so in a word, conservative women are better looking on average, and leftist women are driven a lot by jealousy. Sounds about right.

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Anne Coulter was the one who said, "When attractive women approach me, my heart rate does not increase in the slightest. But when an unattractive woman approaches me, my fight or flight instinct is triggered".
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I think conservative women are definitely better looking, i think because they definitely take better care of themselves.
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The attractive liberal women ALWAYS have a screw loose, hang ups, or daddy issues.

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