(06-18-2017 01:45 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote: @ Fletcher-if your man-crush is what matters to you more than objective reality that's your prerogative. I prefer to focus on reality and what's actually happening in the world rather than wanking off to cults of personality.
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Are you 7 years old or just too stupid to think of anything better than a middle school taunt? Either way, you are a waste of my time so this little exchange is over. I'll let you have the last- almost certainly moronic-word.
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(06-17-2017 09:25 PM)Dusty Wrote: The loathsome (((Bret Stephens))) has an opinion piece in the New York Times today about how illegals in America are better than us native born citizens and we are the ones who should be deported. He's not serious about deporting us, but he is serious that illegal and legal immigrants are better than us.
I wonder if he will advocate for Israel to take on Muslim and Latin America immigrants too?
Quote:I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.
Quote:Bottom line: So-called real Americans are screwing up America. Maybe they should leave, so that we can replace them with new and better ones: newcomers who are more appreciative of what the United States has to offer, more ambitious for themselves and their children, and more willing to sacrifice for the future. In other words, just the kind of people we used to be — when “we” had just come off the boat.
O.K., so I’m jesting about deporting “real Americans” en masse. (Who would take them in, anyway?) But then the threat of mass deportations has been no joke with this administration.
Quote:That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.
It's amazing how similar Stephens sounds to fellow NeoCohen Bill Kristol. Remember this beauty from Kristol?
Quote: "Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad as you say with the white working class, don’t you want to get new Americans in?”
"Basically if you are in free society, a capitalist society, after two, three, four generations of hard work, everyone becomes kind of decadent, lazy, spoiled, whatever."
"Then, luckily, you have these waves of people coming in from Italy, Ireland, Russia, and now Mexico, who really want to work hard and really want to succeed, and really want their kids to live better lives than them, and aren't sort of clipping coupons or hoping that they can hang on and, meanwhile, grew up as spoiled kids and so forth. In that respect, I don't know why this moment is that different from the early 20th century."
Both these pricks want middle America men to fight their wars in the Middle East, yet they want them replaced with Mexicans.
Come the revolution, I want to see these two pricks swinging from ropes.
(06-18-2017 12:57 PM)redpillage Wrote: FYI - ideologues like Stephens are dead serious about this, so don't take this as just being idle talk. It's happening over here in Europe where Merkel kicked the replacement of the native Germans into overdrive back in the summer of 2015. It only takes one corrupt liberal Marxist administration to completely wreck your country. Germany, Sweden, Britain, France - none of those countries will ever be the same again and I expect at least one of them to turn into a majority Muslim country by 2030 plus minus a few years.
Population replacement is what the left wants. Anyone who ideologically opposes the new Marxist world order will either be suppressed, ostracized, killed, or simply bred out of existence over the long term. Don't doubt for a second if it can happen in Western Europe then it can't happen in the United States just because we got Trump right now. We need to fight this every step on the way because once a certain population threshold has been reached there is no way of turning it back short of a very bloody civil war.
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, redpillage - but I have trouble making heads or tails of just WHY the left wants population replacement. For decades they've openly wanted an all-inclusive anti-religious Marxist society that judges nobody, is non-violent to the point of pathology, and allows all forms of degeneracy...well, the sepia-toned wave of immigrants aren't going to want that. Muslims and Hispanics are openly masculine, tend to like religion, and they're patriarchal societies where random violence is far more common than in the West.
Is the goal just "destroy our own culture by any means necessary", so weakening it works just as well as outbreeding it? If so, I'm still confused as to what possesses them to think this way...I can't think of one culture in the history of the world that actively worked to commit suicide.
Crawling into the head of the left is a fool's errand, I know...but these are my enemies and I want to know them.
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The best description, stugatz, was given independently by a Joe Rogan / Jordan Peterson conversation and a Vox Day periscope. It was also hinted at by a one liner that you should memorize and weaponize in your conversations with liberals.
There is simply no way that feminists, male feminists, average IQ Muslims, average IQ Latinos, and average IQ progressives can compete against White American Christians in America. Not even with the boatload of anti-discrimination laws, and preferential treatment in job hiring and college admissions.
You can cow Whites into not saying this, but you can't cow them into not noticing this, and so pretty much every White who isn't a progressive absolutely notices this.
Kevin D Williamson is a White conservative (in name only) who wrote a National Review article, "White America is dying, and it should be" (or something like that), which argued that the displacement of poor Whites by Mexicans represents a form of social progress. That article doesn't make sense until you realize that Kevin was raised in a poor White trash town. It doesn't matter how successful he is, he's always reminded of Where He Grew Up. (And, if you really want to laugh, remind yourself that the National Review has never run a profit in its decades of existence; it's propped up by wealthy people to promote a highly unpopular political message. Which means that Kevin isn't really successful at all: he's only hired to promote a narrative.)
If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
Scott Adams' one liner, "The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will break the law, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will FOLLOW the law." (If we followed the law, society would get more competitive, and they would not survive.)
(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
That's funny. I once went into the McDonald's located at Jane and Finch in Toronto to order lunch while working a private eye gig in the area. I was the only white face in the place surrounded by a sea of hostile Jamaican yutes who loudly threatened to kill me in their "patois" broken English (which I understood well due to the high number of Jamaican women I had gamed and banged prior to this incident). I had walked in there by accident without noting carefully where I was... like most white Canadians who have lived in Toronto - I knew that Jane and Finch was de facto "off limits" to me. I wasn't in Canada anymore. I was in a little Jamaican colony within Canada, and the Jamaicans were not merely looking down on me and my entire Canadian identity, they were criminally threatening to murder me. I would be damned if I would be intimidated with my feet on ground my grandfather had risked his life and fought for in the RCAF in WWII though, so I waited for my fucken Big Mac despite the threats and taunts. The Jamaican manager's hands were shaking as he handed me my lunch and his facial expression said, "Run cracker!" I didn't run. I walked out of there. I did take my order to go, however, and I didn't go back there again. That filthy little patch of Toronto asphalt is lost ground. That's not Canada anymore. It's literally the jungle.
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(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
That's funny. I once went into the McDonald's located at Jane and Finch in Toronto to order lunch while working a private eye gig in the area. I was the only white face in the place surrounded by a sea of hostile Jamaican yutes who loudly threatened to kill me in their "patois" broken English (which I understood well due to the high number of Jamaican women I had gamed and banged prior to this incident). I had walked in there by accident without noting carefully where I was... like most white Canadians who have lived in Toronto - I knew that Jane and Finch was de facto "off limits" to me. I wasn't in Canada anymore. I was in a little Jamaican colony within Canada, and the Jamaicans were not merely looking down on me and my entire Canadian identity, they were criminally threatening to murder me. I would be damned if I would be intimidated with my feet on ground my grandfather had risked his life and fought for in the RCAF in WWII though, so I waited for my fucken Big Mac despite the threats and taunts. The Jamaican manager's hands were shaking as he handed me my lunch and his facial expression said, "Run cracker!" I didn't run. I walked out of there. I did take my order to go, however, and I didn't go back there again. That filthy little patch of Toronto asphalt is lost ground. That's not Canada anymore. It's literally the jungle.
My business partner is half Jamaican and his parents left Jane/Finch the second he was born to go live in a racist BC logging town. His family was welcomed into the racist town from day one and his 135 IQ and engineering degree would have been wasted if his parents had listened to their friends about how racist Canada was toward black people.
(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: The best description, stugatz, was given independently by a Joe Rogan / Jordan Peterson conversation and a Vox Day periscope. It was also hinted at by a one liner that you should memorize and weaponize in your conversations with liberals.
There is simply no way that feminists, male feminists, average IQ Muslims, average IQ Latinos, and average IQ progressives can compete against White American Christians in America. Not even with the boatload of anti-discrimination laws, and preferential treatment in job hiring and college admissions.
You can cow Whites into not saying this, but you can't cow them into not noticing this, and so pretty much every White who isn't a progressive absolutely notices this.
Kevin D Williamson is a White conservative (in name only) who wrote a National Review article, "White America is dying, and it should be" (or something like that), which argued that the displacement of poor Whites by Mexicans represents a form of social progress. That article doesn't make sense until you realize that Kevin was raised in a poor White trash town. It doesn't matter how successful he is, he's always reminded of Where He Grew Up. (And, if you really want to laugh, remind yourself that the National Review has never run a profit in its decades of existence; it's propped up by wealthy people to promote a highly unpopular political message. Which means that Kevin isn't really successful at all: he's only hired to promote a narrative.)
If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
Scott Adams' one liner, "The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will break the law, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will FOLLOW the law." (If we followed the law, society would get more competitive, and they would not survive.)
I was unaware that President Trump has ever commented on Jaimaica one way or the other.
Personally I can't stand their broken English and annoying accents.
Perfect example of how whitey can give and give and give and get nothing but resentment and hostility for the trouble.
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(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: The best description, stugatz, was given independently by a Joe Rogan / Jordan Peterson conversation and a Vox Day periscope. It was also hinted at by a one liner that you should memorize and weaponize in your conversations with liberals.
There is simply no way that feminists, male feminists, average IQ Muslims, average IQ Latinos, and average IQ progressives can compete against White American Christians in America. Not even with the boatload of anti-discrimination laws, and preferential treatment in job hiring and college admissions.
You can cow Whites into not saying this, but you can't cow them into not noticing this, and so pretty much every White who isn't a progressive absolutely notices this.
Kevin D Williamson is a White conservative (in name only) who wrote a National Review article, "White America is dying, and it should be" (or something like that), which argued that the displacement of poor Whites by Mexicans represents a form of social progress. That article doesn't make sense until you realize that Kevin was raised in a poor White trash town. It doesn't matter how successful he is, he's always reminded of Where He Grew Up. (And, if you really want to laugh, remind yourself that the National Review has never run a profit in its decades of existence; it's propped up by wealthy people to promote a highly unpopular political message. Which means that Kevin isn't really successful at all: he's only hired to promote a narrative.)
If you want a more local example, check out the last five pages of the London Bridge Attack thread on RVF - and witness the arguments of Excelsior. Born in America to Jamaican parents (Jamaica has an average IQ of 71.), Excelsior criticizes Trump and his supporters - wait for it - for looking down on him, and hating his entire identity .
It would be one thing if Trump supporters beat him or his family, but the worst we've done is look down on him. For that, he is sided with the globalists against us.
Scott Adams' one liner, "The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will break the law, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will FOLLOW the law." (If we followed the law, society would get more competitive, and they would not survive.)
I was unaware that President Trump has ever commented on Jaimaica one way or the other.
Personally I can't stand their broken English and annoying accents.
Perfect example of how whitey can give and give and give and get nothing but resentment and hostility for the trouble.
I think its because no one respects a cuck, no one. At the very least blacks respected whites when they were being whipped. Not saying that's the right thing to do, jailing works fine though I would prefer more hard labor under the Nevada sun or brought to Alaska to break rocks. I should also note I come from drug addict, alcoholic murderers, that's my genetic background. Punish idiots more severely because shit aint working now.
(06-18-2017 07:44 PM)Dusty Wrote: It's amazing how similar Stephens sounds to fellow NeoCohen Bill Kristol.
American Jews are probably the biggest ingrates you'll ever see. They were welcomed into a country that promised them safe haven from European and Arab anti-semitism, and they still turn on it and call for its native peoples to be removed. Don't buy into this "he was just joking" nonsense. Cosmopolitan elitist jews like Stephens (nice attempt at a WASP name by the way you fucking snake) truly despise middle America. Part of the reason why I'm embarrassed to be half-Jew.
(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: Scott Adams' one liner, "The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will break the law, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will FOLLOW the law." (If we followed the law, society would get more competitive, and they would not survive.)
That's actually an interesting and poetic analysis by Scott Adams and it dances up to the truth before falling just short. Here's how he could have said it better:
The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will act immorally, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will act morally.
I will give Scott credit for his analysis and he is welcome to my adjustment without sharing credit. The reason Scott gets this wrong is that Scott himself is not a conservative, he's an opportunistic liberal LARPing as a conservative, He is engaging in "entryism" to take advantage of the rising trend of the Alt Right, and I commend him for his opportunism, but I see what he is doing. Scott doesn't want to use the concept of morality because he is not ready to identify liberals as immoral, because he is one. He hides behind his remark that liberals "break the law" because this is still likely to permit sympathy for liberals from conservatives who are waking up to the fact that liberal bureaucrats have literally ruined our countries while conservatives were out working real jobs and paying taxes. If all liberals did was "break the law" then we can be persuaded to think that the law was flawed. But if conservatives go so far as to determine that liberals are actually immoral agents of Satan who, for example, revel in the murder of unborn babies and turn a blind eye to horrible acts of child abuse such as #Pizzagate, well then "secret" liberals like Scott Adams are in deep shit because the wrath of God is headed their way.
The reason Scott gets this wrong is because he's not a conservative deep down. He's not a Christian. I've read older blog posts of his that have shown me he's a communist. He's an entryist with good analysis and rhetorical skills. I wouldn't put too much stock in his advice, however. He is no leader.
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If you guys haven't read Quintus' recent translation of Sallust, I suggest that you do. Sallust's spotlight on the arrogance of the nobility of his time and before was very biting. Here's a selected excerpt from Marius railing against the nobility that came to my mind immediately after seeing what yet another worthless media "intellectual" put out.
Quote:What makes them happy, what they believe is worthwhile, let them continue to do. Let them indulge in sex and drink. Let them live out their elder years in the same way they spent their youth: in lavish dinners, ruled by their stomachs and the most indecent parts of the body. Let them leave sweat, dirt, and other such things to us, for whom such things are more pleasing than banquets. But in truth it will not be this way. For when these most repulsive men disgrace themselves with their scandals, they then snatch away the just rewards earned by good people. What is most unfair is that their extravagance and laziness - the most despicable of habits - never seem to hurt those who indulge then, yet turn out to be the ruin of our blameless republic.
Edit: Scott is not a liberal. He's generally apolitical.
Scott Adams is a high-IQ guy who can be perceptive and interesting at times. Saying that he is an autist or a sociopath may be going a bit too far, but it is true that he seems to lack some human quality. As does his comics. As does his moist robot hypothesis.
One problem with his analysis of Trump is that he tends to reduce Trump to a mere calculating persuader playing 4d chess all the time and explains Trump's behaviors solely on that basis, thereby missing Trump's human quality - which is supposed to be felt before analyzing. My view of Trump is that he some times act on calculation and other times on his human instincts and passions. Scott doesn't get that, so his analysis is often a mix of perceptive observations and interesting ideas and contrived bullshit overinterpretation.
Many of SC's predictions don't actually stand up to scrutiny. Once you get past your initial excitement with the discovery of human irrationality and persuasion psychology, you will start seeing that his analysis is full of flaws. We should do well to remember that Trump's election victory was not something 95%+ guaranteed.
(05-22-2017 10:34 PM)Suits Wrote: China is a very high stress place to live. Everyone is cold and calculating, unless they want something from you, at which point they have acting skills to rival Hollywood... You can't even trust your own instincts, because if you allow yourself to be swayed by how likeable someone is, there's a good chance you'll pay for it down the road.
(03-19-2016 10:13 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: [N]o one is "planning" anything. They have no power to "plan" it... They can't even control one goofy Ohio governor and son-of-a-mailman, LOL.
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You know, it's funny that one of Scott's famous tells for cognitive dissonance is that you "know" what's going on in another person's mind. Kind of like leftists "know" that Trump is evil because of that one time he didn't "disavow" David Duke fast enough, for instance. It's really just their own confirmation bias talking to them, and a strong case can be made for that paragraph you wrote earlier.
(Scott has been wrong in details of the execution, but he's generally been right on his big arc predictions, which is about all that you can reasonably ask for in a world of so many moving parts.)
But anyway, I digress. I don't really think this is worth talking about in this thread.
Brett Stephens' silly post is just another example of a nobility condescending to its own citizens. I wouldn't even necessarily think it's exclusively a Jewish thing (though I do understand TigerMandigo's embarrassment). It reminds me in many ways not only of Sallust (which again, everyone here should read, particularly since he was one of Caesar's guys and Caesar has been in the news), but also when 19th century genteel victorians tried to purge the language of the people still on the farm, which is a big, big reason why they hate Trump so much (which Scott Adams pointed out long ago).
The big pattern is that time goes on, these self-appointed elites and "intellectuals" have lost all contact with real world experience but condescend to those that do. Again, this is something Marius attacks viciously in his speech. Perhaps families with funeral masks have been replaced by Ivy League legacies and "think tank" credentials, but the overall dynamic is still very much the same.
The more I read Quintus' translations, I'm not only convinced he's doing great work, but that we need to re-establish the classics as a formal, vital part of educating the youth.
(06-18-2017 10:53 AM)PharaohRa Wrote: I see that the (((usual suspects))) are up to their tricks again calling for white people to submit to the heel of their Bolshevik librulism again. What they don't understand is that their arrogant hubris will be their undoing, and they should not be surprised if it is their own who throw them out, just like most occurrences over the past 2000 years.
You're right. Their hubris is their mortal sin. Time and time again. I mean, it was only 60 years since the last uprising and now they're on it again. Why can't they just let it be? What kind of mad death cult do they belong to?
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Nomadbrah, the God-fearing Abrahamic religions are all ostensibly death cults. The demi-urge represented by Yaweh or Allah are vengeful deities. Only Christ was able to awaken from that morass. Those who study and apply his teachings (all of them, including the Apocrypha) can live in love, truth, and respect with each other. By the way, I was born to an EE catholic mother and secular Muslim father who encouraged us to always use our God-given minds to understand life. I'm also a scientist who has studied Biblical and historical events as well as meditated and utilized psychedelics (as early Christians almost certainly did) to arrive at these truths. A religion that does not teach peace is indeed a death cult - this applies to both Semitic tribes.
If you haven't yet read Sex and Character by Otto Weininger you need to. He frames the question of Judaism in the context of male and female qualities. You can't just jump to that section without comprehending the earlier exposition but I linked to that section near the end for the impatient reader.
(06-19-2017 11:09 AM)Truth Tiger Wrote: Nomadbrah, the God-fearing Abrahamic religions are all ostensibly death cults. The demi-urge represented by Yaweh or Allah are vengeful deities. Only Christ was able to awaken from that morass. Those who study and apply his teachings (all of them, including the Apocrypha) can live in love, truth, and respect with each other. By the way, I was born to an EE catholic mother and secular Muslim father who encouraged us to always use our God-given minds to understand life. I'm also a scientist who has studied Biblical and historical events as well as meditated and utilized psychedelics (as early Christians almost certainly did) to arrive at these truths. A religion that does not teach peace is indeed a death cult - this applies to both Semitic tribes.
If you haven't yet read Sex and Character by Otto Weininger you need to. He frames the questions of Judaism in the context of male and female qualities. You can't just jump to that section without comprehending the earlier exposition but I linked to that section near the end for the impatient reader.
The more you learn about other Middle Eastern religions, the more you see how fundamentally different was Christianity. Hard to believe they come from the same region.
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The reason Scott gets this wrong is that Scott himself is not a conservative, he's an opportunistic liberal LARPing as a conservative, He is engaging in "entryism" to take advantage of the rising trend of the Alt Right, and I commend him for his opportunism, but I see what he is doing. Scott doesn't want to use the concept of morality because he is not ready to identify liberals as immoral, because he is one. He hides behind his remark that liberals "break the law" because this is still likely to permit sympathy for liberals from conservatives who are waking up to the fact that liberal bureaucrats have literally ruined our countries while conservatives were out working real jobs and paying taxes. If all liberals did was "break the law" then we can be persuaded to think that the law was flawed. But if conservatives go so far as to determine that liberals are actually immoral agents of Satan who, for example, revel in the murder of unborn babies and turn a blind eye to horrible acts of child abuse such as #Pizzagate, well then "secret" liberals like Scott Adams are in deep shit because the wrath of God is headed their way.
