Post: #251

(07-09-2015 01:08 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Look here is something really radical and extremely patriotic to chew on...

We have a situation where a country we share a several thousand mile southern border with is under the narco terrorist control of 60 to 80 warring Narco Terrorist Drugs Thugs gangs that make ISIS look like pop warner kiddies.

2015 Estimates are up to 150,000+ killed and 30,000 missing inside Mexico. Many beheaded and in mass graves.

I has become unsafe to travel or do business in Mexico without Armed Guards.

Most of these gangs are comprised of or controlled by locals policia, provincial/state policia, federales policia and former military in a "if you do not want to be beaten or killed - then join them mindset). Yet the violence is swept under the rug due to journalists in Mexico and the USA terrified for their lives.

Given that completely out of control framework contributing to a massive illegal migration into the USA from Mexico, El Salvador, and a number of other South American countries - the only solution that works is strong stealth intervention and prosecution of the kingpins smuggling drugs and people and weapons and laundered cash on both sides of the USA Mexico Border.

What we did in Columbia was to send in the DEA with FBI, DoD, Special Forces backup as and where needed including Aircraft Carriers for ultimate Air Superiority.

The USA can blind the Mexican Airspace in about 30 minutes and then DEA and combined Special Forces teams round up the kingpins running the major gangs (Cartels is a too sanitized business term) - prosecute them and rendition them to secret overseas jails the opposite of USA Club Feds.

This worked in Columbia and it is long overdue in Mexico.

Colombia and Mexico are different situations, though. The Mexican government taking out the leaders of the existing cartels that had been in power and solidified for years and years is what started this whole Narco War mess to begin with. Things were going pretty smoothly (in comparison to how it is now) until then.

It is just best to leave ruling organized criminal groups alone as long as they don't disrupt the lives of people not involved in their line of work and actually contribute something back to society. Honestly, it would be best to legalize the drug trade altogether so they can just lawyer up rather than kill each other over these matters but that is still years away.

Disrupting the status quo leads to newcomers all fighting and using extreme violence in order to take the place of those the government took down.

Look at what happened when the government went after the La Cosa Nostra in a big way. Entire neighborhoods went into the shitter and new more violent groups moved in like vultures to fill their spot.

Post: #252

...and now Trump is #1 according to a YouGov poll:

https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/07/09...ald-trump/



It wasn't hard to anticipate this.

Post: #253

I don't believe that many people really want Jeb Bush. He's boring, liberal, and people are sick of that name. I don't see how theres legions of people who want Jeb Bush. His beliefs aren't all that different from Hillary (that goes for most repubs)

Post: #254

(07-09-2015 02:02 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I don't believe that many people really want Jeb Bush. He's boring, liberal, and people are sick of that name. I don't see how theres legions of people who want Jeb Bush

Low-information Republican mouth-breathers. There's actually quite a few of these guys and I've known plenty of them. Usually most of them come around via reason but they are damn stubborn. They also tend to be excessively concerned with what others think of them, so, for them, it's more important that the Republicans "win" rather than put in the right policies. They cheer for the Republicans like many sports fans do for their favorite teams, because all that matters is for them to be on the winning team. That's why they blindly support Bush since "Bush" is a winning name. They are unable to realize that just because two Bushes have been in the White house does not mean a 3rd will make it in.

They lack enough self-reflection to ask if they get anything out of their support. Many of them seem unable to place a connection between their own well-being and the guys in DC.

Post: #255

(07-09-2015 02:02 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I don't believe that many people really want Jeb Bush. He's boring, liberal, and people are sick of that name. I don't see how theres legions of people who want Jeb Bush. His beliefs aren't all that different from Hillary (that goes for most repubs)

I am thinking the same thing. Who the hell are these conservatives supporting Jeb. They are really out of touch.

As far as I am concerned we either get Trump or Rand Paul, or it probably will not matter and I would almost rather it be Hillary so when shit hits the fan it is under her watch and she gets blamed.

Post: #256

Samseau are you able to find any polls from the last election around this time? If memory serves correctly Ron Paul was leading the pack for quite a while but didn't have a shits chance of winning.

Putting biased optimism aside, I really do believe this time is different. He's speaking from the conservative heart with absolutely no regard for courtesies, and it's really striking a nerve across the country; he wouldn't be receiving this much attention if the GOP/Dem establishment didn't feel threatened.

Post: #257

(07-09-2015 02:09 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I would almost rather it be Hillary so when shit hits the fan it is under her watch and she gets blamed.

Come on. We all know it will be the patriarchy's fault.

Post: #258

(07-09-2015 02:13 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 02:09 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I would almost rather it be Hillary so when shit hits the fan it is under her watch and she gets blamed.

Come on. We all know it will be the patriarchy's fault.

LOL, true, some how it will be men's fault. But if the fall is bad enough the whole SJW might be done for because many will be just trying to survive day to day and women go back to their natural roles.

Post: #259

Trump! Trump! Trump!...

I kid, I kid...

But seriously folks, I hope someone with Trumps conservative politics, values, business acumen, and courageous big balls wins the presidency.

He's stood his ground to the democrats and media (redundant) and it's paying off. I love him. I love what he's saying. I love that he doesn't care as much about 'how' he says it but more about what is actually meant.

I don't think he's any more brash or bold than before, the media is just more intolerant and close-minded, plus more a homogeneous swarm of mosquitoes now, which makes him seem unbelievably cocky.

I can't imagine Trump being president.

Yep, I have no idea what to think at this point.

At least, I hope he really makes the Repubs think and moves the conversation a bit more toward reality.

Post: #260

Jebs two recent comments that "immigration is an act of love" and "Americans need to work more" - yes I know he is referring to all the people listed at 30 hours part time so their employers do not have to pay benefits or ACA - wasn't the unaffordable care act supposed to be mandatory so that costs for health care would be equally amortized across the entire working population - loopholes big enough to drive a train through.

A recent survey showed that 25% of USA salaried workers work an incredible 60 hours a week including time responding to emails after "normal" work hours whereas the trend among highly successful tech companies with high retention rates is the opposite:

http://www.kgw.com/story/money/business/.../29913745/

Turns out highly skilled Americans are actually more productive and focused when they get Fridays off for the same pay - makes sense considering most jobs nearly 50% of your time is reading or responding to Emails, Lynch meetings, Outlook meetings, Smart Phone comms or texts or IMs... lots of wasted time whereas 32 hours forces focus and compresses the time wasted factor.

Post: #261

(07-06-2015 03:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  By the way - Jeb Bush is a giant LOL:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/201...t-of-love/

Quote:Jeb Bush: Immigration is 'not a felony' but 'an act of love'

Posted by
CNN's Dana Davidsen
(CNN) - Jeb Bush said the debate over immigration reform needs to move past derisive rhetoric describing illegal immigrants.

The former Florida governor said in an interview Sunday in College Station, Texas, that people who come to the United States illegally are often looking for opportunities to provide for their families that are not available in their home countries.

"Yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony. It's an act of love, it's an act of commitment to your family," Bush told Fox News host Shannon Bream at town hall event at the George Bush Presidential Library Center.

How the hell is this guy going to take the primary?

(07-09-2015 01:29 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 01:08 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Look here is something really radical and extremely patriotic to chew on...

We have a situation where a country we share a several thousand mile southern border with is under the narco terrorist control of 60 to 80 warring Narco Terrorist Drugs Thugs gangs that make ISIS look like pop warner kiddies.

2015 Estimates are up to 150,000+ killed and 30,000 missing inside Mexico. Many beheaded and in mass graves.

I has become unsafe to travel or do business in Mexico without Armed Guards.

Most of these gangs are comprised of or controlled by locals policia, provincial/state policia, federales policia and former military in a "if you do not want to be beaten or killed - then join them mindset). Yet the violence is swept under the rug due to journalists in Mexico and the USA terrified for their lives.

Given that completely out of control framework contributing to a massive illegal migration into the USA from Mexico, El Salvador, and a number of other South American countries - the only solution that works is strong stealth intervention and prosecution of the kingpins smuggling drugs and people and weapons and laundered cash on both sides of the USA Mexico Border.

What we did in Columbia was to send in the DEA with FBI, DoD, Special Forces backup as and where needed including Aircraft Carriers for ultimate Air Superiority.

The USA can blind the Mexican Airspace in about 30 minutes and then DEA and combined Special Forces teams round up the kingpins running the major gangs (Cartels is a too sanitized business term) - prosecute them and rendition them to secret overseas jails the opposite of USA Club Feds.

This worked in Columbia and it is long overdue in Mexico.

Colombia and Mexico are different situations, though. The Mexican government taking out the leaders of the existing cartels that had been in power and solidified for years and years is what started this whole Narco War mess to begin with. Things were going pretty smoothly (in comparison to how it is now) until then.

It is just best to leave ruling organized criminal groups alone as long as they don't disrupt the lives of people not involved in their line of work and actually contribute something back to society. Honestly, it would be best to legalize the drug trade altogether so they can just lawyer up rather than kill each other over these matters but that is still years away.

Disrupting the status quo leads to newcomers all fighting and using extreme violence in order to take the place of those the government took down.

Look at what happened when the government went after the La Cosa Nostra in a big way. Entire neighborhoods went into the shitter and new more violent groups moved in like vultures to fill their spot.

Having been raised in a Sicilian family by Sicilian American US Military Veterans including my step father and all of his WWII veterans uncles - the LCN was known to us. With the modern RICO act and Witness Protection programs no one glorifies being in the mob any more - even John Gotti's wife and daughter wants their sons and grandsons to stay out - so what is left of the NYC and other major US City families basically lease territory with the old world Sicilians who float Italy's broken EU Euro Debt bomb banking system calling the shots while the international money laundering rules get a wink and a nod in Italia and much of Latin America including Mexico and Central and South America.

I guess I was not clear enough just look at the Trump video upthread where he basically shows two types of negotiating styles - meek nice milk toast - or- the Trump NYC street "Look MFers this is the deal" - we are stationing two carrier task forces off the Atlantic Gulf and Pacific Coasts of La Raza land and we are declaring real war on the Narco Terrorists freely operating and controlling your government and your country and then watch the rats scatter when we redeploy the ISIS Drone squadrons and Carrier Task Forces with US Army Airborne stealth helos (Yeah the ones that got Bin Laden) full Marine Recon and US Navy SEALS teams backing up the FBI, CIA, NSA and DEA in a real effing war against the Narco Terrorists murderers flooding the USA with illegals as forced drugs mules with their families being held hostage and killed anyways... This is what you do when there is out of control narco war on your southern border. You go in hot, hard and heavy and take no narco terrorists prisoners until they are all eliminated and then you make Mexico the 51st through 61st States of Estados Unidos de Norte CanAmerexico with the Amero currency the sovereign currency of the Americas completely unlike the Debt Bombing Troika Banksters Euro of the EU.

Then frack and refrack the place until our oil companies make so much profits their taxes pay for the war on the narcos.

That will make some liberals blow up their bongs via outraged reflex backflow.

Post: #262

Level 60 Shitlord

Post: #263

(07-09-2015 02:12 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Putting biased optimism aside, I really do believe this time is different. He's speaking from the conservative heart with absolutely no regard for courtesies, and it's really striking a nerve across the country; he wouldn't be receiving this much attention if the GOP/Dem establishment didn't feel threatened.

There's more to it than that. Some of you who do your homework in regards to economics know about the 2015.75 target for an economic "big bang" that is shaping up to be a public sector, sovereign debt crisis.


I don't know if Trump's timing is deliberate but I suspect it is. He's planting himself firmly as a populist candidate just a few months before the period in which we are likely to start seeing government entities default on their debts and pension obligations. When people's promised bennies get taken away it's going to wake up a lot of previously sleeping people....and create a surge of anti-government anger that Trump will be perfectly positioned to take advantage of.

Post: #264

(07-09-2015 02:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Turns out highly skilled Americans are actually more productive and focused when they get Fridays off for the same pay - makes sense considering most jobs nearly 50% of your time is reading or responding to Emails, Lynch meetings, Outlook meetings, Smart Phone comms or texts or IMs... lots of wasted time whereas 32 hours forces focus and compresses the time wasted factor.

I witnessed a similar effect while doing my CTLT (Army's equivalent of an internship) at Ft. hood. At the time General Lynch was in charge the post and had instituted a strict policy to the effect that formations be released immediately after the 5:00PM formation.

The commanders bitched....and bitched...and then bitched some more, mostly about how the new schedule made it impossible to do everything that needed to be done. However Gen. Lynch was known to do surprise walkthroughs of random units on Ft. Hood. To routinely stay late meant sooner or later you'd get your ass chewed by the General himself who would make sure everyone knew about it.

Despite all the bitching the work somehow got done, and it got done with dramatically less inefficiency than I saw in other units.

Post: #265

(07-09-2015 08:46 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 02:12 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Putting biased optimism aside, I really do believe this time is different. He's speaking from the conservative heart with absolutely no regard for courtesies, and it's really striking a nerve across the country; he wouldn't be receiving this much attention if the GOP/Dem establishment didn't feel threatened.

There's more to it than that. Some of you who do your homework in regards to economics know about the 2015.75 target for an economic "big bang" that is shaping up to be a public sector, sovereign debt crisis.


I don't know if Trump's timing is deliberate but I suspect it is. He's planting himself firmly as a populist candidate just a few months before the period in which we are likely to start seeing government entities default on their debts and pension obligations. When people's promised bennies get taken away it's going to wake up a lot of previously sleeping people....and create a surge of anti-government anger that Trump will be perfectly positioned to take advantage of.

I just heard about the 2015.75 economic crisis about two months ago. At first I figured it was just some conspiracy to help sell some market product. But more and more of the people I know who work in the markets seem to think it is very possible.

My CPA, who follows the market closely, said he has 10 years until he plans to retire, so for now he will ride out whatever drop we see in the stock market and buy the dips. The grain traders I know say they are watching the futures market VERY closely due to this and not sure how to play it. It sounds like the people who are in the market believe it is a very real possibility.

If so, Trump can play it well his popularity might explode from the people who don't pay attention and have so far not had the national debt impact them directly in a strong enough fashion to wake them up.

Post: #266

Can’t Fire Him: Republican Party Frets Over What to Do With Trump:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/us/pol....html?_r=0

^The GOP wants to torpedo Trumps campaign, but they are too afraid of his followers. His popularity has only continued to rise the more media attention, good or bad, that he has gotten. Looks like he is definitely going to be in the debates.

Will be interesting to see him bash the other candidates as wimps and fools.

Post: #267

(07-10-2015 03:13 AM)Easy E Wrote:  Can’t Fire Him: Republican Party Frets Over What to Do With Trump:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/us/pol....html?_r=0

^The GOP wants to torpedo Trumps campaign, but they are too afraid of his followers. His popularity has only continued to rise the more media attention, good or bad, that he has gotten. Looks like he is definitely going to be in the debates.

Will be interesting to see him bash the other candidates as wimps and fools.

Many of the top Republicans have sold out the middle class they claimed to represent. There are lots of new Republicans, many of them in the Tea Party mode, who have stood their ground and protected the middle class. But the top guys are really no different than the Democrats.

Bohner, McConnell, Bush, Graham these kinds of people say the right things when campaigning but then they run off to DC and work hand in hand with many far left Democrats to pass more regulations that hurt small businesses or trade plans that sell out the middle class.

People are sick of it, and they are not sure where to turn. Now they know where to turn and the GOP has to either live with Trump or they will kill their own chances if they kick him out.

Post: #268

This is starting to be really entertaining.

This article headline made me laugh.

Republicans try to disarm 'suicide bomber' Trump

Just a partial quote, the article isn't anything special. Just that he is being called a suicide bomber.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republ...le/2567705

Quote:Slowly and reluctantly, Republicans are beginning to take on Donald Trump.

It might just be that they can't avoid the 69-year-old billionaire businessman/entertainer. At every turn, reporters are asking the GOP presidential candidates and other Republicans if they have a problem with Trump, also a White House contender, for referring to illegal immigrants from Mexico as "rapists," among other things.

Some have sought to sidestep the question. Others, like Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, have praised Trump for speaking aggressively about the need to secure Mexican border. But a growing number of GOP 2016'ers are attempting to distance themselves, and the Republican Party, from rhetoric they fear could alienate voters and boost presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

Post: #269

There's going to be massive pressure to disqualify Trump from the race before the debates begin next month. As we speak I have no doubt that the GOP national organization as well as every other campaign is working overtime to dig up some kind of dirt on Trump to force him out of the race (and believe me, if they can't find anything suitable, they will quickly try to manufacture something). They all really, really want him gone because he makes them all look like the gutless sellouts they are. If he's allowed on stage to debate he's going to clown everybody with brutal, unapologetic real talk. The best case scenario for the GOP if Trump makes it to the debates is to deliberately stack the crowd with anti-Trump plants who will heavily boo every time he says something controversial, and to make sure all the other candidates gang up on him. Even then, that might not be enough, and Trump might come out a winner in the public's mind through the sheer force of his personality and confidence combined with the truth of his message.

Post: #270

A growing number of people are sick and tired of the bullshit career politicians spout.

Trump is a breath of fresh air.

I just saw that they are moving his rally to a larger venue in Phoenix due to high demand.

Post: #271

I can see heavy pressure from both the GOP and the elitists to get Trump out of this race ASAP. SEVERELY heavy pressure. Because it will take a lot of heavy pressure to get a man who is 69 years old, with nothing to lose, and $9,000,000,000 to quit at this point. And I see it still happening. Trump is upsetting the apple cart. He is getting the frustrated middle class American to wake up. And he is doing at the perfect time.

The average middle class American just wants to work their 8 to 5, take their kids to baseball practice and relax at the end of the day with some family entertainment in a safe neighborhood and feel a sense of pride. They are not asking for much. But the elites want more and more and the only place to get more is to continue to target and destroy the middle class. Between the Democrats ramming the failure of Obamacare down our throats at the worst possible time, and the Republicans lying their asses off and passing NAFTA V.2.0 with the Pacific Agreement and doing not a damn thing about the border, people are fed up.

They see a guy like Eric Cantor sell out the people who he claimed to represent, rightfully get his ass run out of office, and turn around and probably make 10 times more as a lobbyist and they realize that all of the rats in DC are corrupt. Or at least anyone that has been there for more than a few terms.

These people in the middle class realize how much of an uphill battle their kids will face, all the while we throw money away on wars just to make the rich even richer. People are learning about how the national debt impacts them and how out of control it already is. The fact is people are fed up.

Then along comes a guy like Trump who not only says what they feel, but says it in a way that makes them stand up and applaud. The NBC interview, where the snot nosed liberal girl tries to pretend to be smart and tough, and he repeatedly dismisses her, and tells her that she asked a stupid question, and that he is wasting his time, it was just beautiful. There is no reasoning with the far left or pussy footing around. You call them out for being either evil or completely ignorant, give a quick example as to why, and then treat them as not worth any more of your time. Just as Trump did. Then when the Republicans pussy foot around, as they have been, you call them out for what they are, career politicians who stand for NOTHING.

I believe Trump has got millions who were not awake to wake up. And for those who were awake, they are now much more motivated. Even if he were to drop out at this point, I feel he has started a movement. The pendulum might finally start to swing back to common sense and decency. And I hope this is the case, because we don't have much time left before we have lost it all.

Post: #272

Even that fag Anderson Cooper respects Trump. He said Trump was the only politician whose ever came to an interview with him without some PR drone telling him what to and what not to say.

Post: #273

This woman should be Trump's debating coach she is unflappable and destroys any media liberal she faces including Univision's Jorge Ramos who was spouting all of the we are all immigrants and diversity makes America great BS - she researches all of her books and proves the opposite thesis in:

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Left...B00R3L7502

Adios America - The Lefts Plan to turn our Country into a Third World Hell Hole.

Already a New York Times Bestseller!

Ann Coulter is back, more fearless than ever. In Adios, America she touches the third rail in American politics, attacking the immigration issue head-on and flying in the face of La Raza, the Democrats, a media determined to cover up immigrants' crimes, churches that get paid by the government for their "charity," and greedy Republican businessmen and campaign consultants—all of whom are profiting handsomely from mass immigration that’s tearing the country apart. Applying her trademark biting humor to the disaster that is U.S. immigration policy, Coulter proves that immigration is the most important issue facing America today.

Review
"Like other Ann Coulter books, its cutting wit and take-no-prisoners style is backed up by thoroughly researched facts, including facts that most of the media refuse to report."
— Thomas Sowell, National Review

"...often-inflammatory, usually clever, sometimes laugh-out-loud funny..."
— The Daily Beast

"Coulter's argument—that the media and our politicians conspire to keep information from us about the effects of mass immigration from non-Western countries, and that such immigration will destroy the fabric of the country—is virtually unassailable."
— Ben Shapiro, Townhall

"...the best book she's ever written..."
—Gavin McInnes, co-founder of Vice

Post: #274

---Jorge Ramos is a liberal piece of shit.

He was on O'Reilly tonight spewing white people have all sorts of privileges, and the fact that whites do better in school is proof of their privilege.
O'Reilly responds that Asians do better in school than everyone else, does that mean they have privilege? Jorge couldn't give a logical response and just went back to his 'white privilege' bullshit.

The arrogance to go into a different country then demand they cater to you is astounding.

I wouldn't mind all the Mexican immigration if they would vote for small government capitalism, but it seems their only voting concern is who will let in their whole families, cousins, friends etc... they are extremely short sighted. Given how shitty the economy is I'm surprised they're still under the impression that they're somehow creating a better future for their children....that opportunity is rapidly disappearing.

Edit: Eskhander - I don't think so. Any time a politician doesn't agree with amnesty they all start threatening that Hispanics will vote for someone else.

Post: #275

(07-10-2015 11:55 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  ---Jorge Ramos is a liberal piece of shit.

He was on O'Reilly tonight spewing white people have all sorts of privileges, and the fact that whites do better in school is proof of their privilege.
O'Reilly responds that Asians do better in school than everyone else, does that mean they have privilege? Jorge couldn't give a logical response and just went back to his 'white privilege' bullshit.

I wouldn't mind all the Mexican immigration if they would vote for small government capitalism, but it seems their only voting concern is who will let in their whole families, cousins, friends etc... they are extremely short sighted. Given how shitty the economy is I'm surprised they're still under the impression that they're somehow creating a better future for their children....that opportunity is rapidly disappearing.

I believe their most important issues are welfare and healthcare.