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Deepdiver · 2019-01-19 14:39:00 · #88781
Since now is the first month of 2019 Time to get back on the Trump Train and focus on the Trump Agenda to continue and accelerate important future prosperity for the USA - Build the Wall is an very tiny portion of Rebuild the Infrastructure ($25 Billion versus $1 Trillion) which is what I am beginning to believe is the Demcommunists true agenda which is to derail the rebuilding of the USA's infrastructure which would give Trump's power base incredible leverage in not just the 2020 elections but slam the "Progressive" Demcommunists Party of the USA and their SJW sister Demcommunist Socialists of America financed by non-other than the Communist Freaking Red Chinese politburo to undermine the USA - this may not kill the march forward of the Naked Communists Agenda in the USA however it will go a long way to reverse it - Alpha Females are genetically programmed to breed with the seed of successful Alpha males and this would make most RVF Red Pill ambitious men into extremely financially successful Red Pill Alpha Men:
This is brilliant and should be what all Pro Trump Patriots push for (Very similar to the "Greenbacks" Plan) that Abraham Lincoln used to finance and win the Civil War against the City of London financed by the House of Rothschilds with the blessings of the Victorian British Crown:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/monetary-...ture-plan/
A commentary on the Money Masters website to promote, update and comment on their original 1996 Documentary and subsequent works and updates:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/
IMNSHO It would be trivial to allocate $25B to $50B of $1,000B ($1Trillion) to Border, Ports and PoE physical Barriers, Roads and Advanced AI and Electronic Security that not only encompasses Drones, infrared camera networks, Humint but also sensitive seismic detectors that in fact can detect Tunnel Digging and Use by deadly Drugs cartels.
Text of the Commentary:
FUNDING PRESIDENT TRUMP's PROPOSED $1T USD INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN:
How The Trump Administration Can Fund a $1 Trillion Government Investment in Infrastructure Without Increasing the National Debt or Causing Significant Inflation
by Patrick S.J. Carmack, JD
The Trump Administration can fund its proposed $1 trillion US infrastructure rebuild without inflation or increasing the national debt, provided it is done without increasing the overall quantity of high-powered money in the money supply. There are two ways to do that: the simplest is by increasing the RRR (required reserve ratio – the proportion of bank assets held in cash or highly liquid assets); the other – more complex method – is by increasing the bank capital requirements (ratio of bank equity to debt).
Ironically, because of the size of this proposed expenditure, there exists the real possibility of indirectly introducing monetary reform in the US in approving this expenditure, provided it is done accompanied by one of the two mechanisms above, which would remove two principal objections to the proposal: that it will ultimately be highly inflationary and it will increase the national debt by $1 trillion. Such an increase in the money supply would indeed, inevitably be inflationary, unless a significant portion of these funds were “sterilized” (as has been done with most of the $4.5 trillion in “quantitative easing” Fed expenditures, with the interest cost on excess reserves held/sterilized at the Fed [presently c. $2 trillion] paid at taxpayer expense).
However, to make such an increase in government expenditures – over and above the huge current deficits – politically palatable, increasing the RRR to require increased bank reserves equal to the increased money supply caused by funding this specific program would absorb the new money without any inflationary (or deflationary) effect. This could not be done if the US already had a 100% RRR, but since our current RRR average is well below 10%, we have plenty of room to require banks to increase their reserves by the $1 trillion over ten years, thereby neutralizing the monetary expansion required for this program.
Since the US money supply (M2) is over $13 trillion (Nov., 2016), an increase in the RRR on the order of 7% (i.e., from the present 10% to 17% – this can easily be precisely calculated) would absorb the $1 trillion without any inflationary or deflationary effect. The RRR could be very gradually increased on a monthly basis (proportioned to the expenditures for the infrastructure project that month), which, if done over the proposed ten-year period, would average to less than a 1% RRR increase per year. It could also be done much more quickly – e.g., in two-four years.
Further, if this $1 trillion were introduced into the money supply as US Notes (i.e., simply not borrowed by the issuance of an equivalent amount of Treasury bonds and other securities), it would not increase the national debt. In fact, if these expenditures were made accompanied by the RRR increase suggested above, it would be important not to increase the national debt by selling Treasury bonds or securities, as this would drain the capital markets of such a sum, gradually increasing interest rates on the balance of the $20 trillion national debt, resulting in increasing interest costs on that debt, leading to higher budget deficits, and more debt. Each 1% interest rate increase would add approximately $200 billion in annual interest costs. This could only be avoided by continuing to keep the interest rates artificially low by government (Fed) interference in the capital markets, resulting in increasing bubbles in various sectors such as housing and the stock market, with inevitable price collapses in those sectors, at high social cost to the already debt-strapped American middle class, which could and probably would result in a new recession, or depression, defeating a large part of the whole purpose of the project: job creation.
Patrick S. J. Carmack
This approach then, would: balance the money/credit supply; provide the $1 trillion needed for this infrastructure project without increasing the national debt; be neither inflationary nor deflationary; and would be empirically instructive to both Congress and the American people that the current system of debt-financed US budget deficits (which the US has run 45 out of the last 50 years) is an unnecessary expense (interest on the debt is presently over $23 billion per month and rising) and needlessly transfers over 97% of the money-creation power of government and the seignorage (profit from money creation) to private banks, which is the main cause of the serious and growing income inequality in the US and internationally.
Patrick S.J. Carmack, JD
###
These are the True Enemies of our Liberty and Freedom:
http://www.restoring-america.com/Documen...0NOTES.pdf
https://mises.org/library/marxism-lives
http://www.returnofkings.com/123828/a-19...y-complete
https://youtu.be/6fQ4J9tcQ2I
https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/wat...-1963.html
This is brilliant and should be what all Pro Trump Patriots push for (Very similar to the "Greenbacks" Plan) that Abraham Lincoln used to finance and win the Civil War against the City of London financed by the House of Rothschilds with the blessings of the Victorian British Crown:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/monetary-...ture-plan/
A commentary on the Money Masters website to promote, update and comment on their original 1996 Documentary and subsequent works and updates:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/
IMNSHO It would be trivial to allocate $25B to $50B of $1,000B ($1Trillion) to Border, Ports and PoE physical Barriers, Roads and Advanced AI and Electronic Security that not only encompasses Drones, infrared camera networks, Humint but also sensitive seismic detectors that in fact can detect Tunnel Digging and Use by deadly Drugs cartels.
Text of the Commentary:
FUNDING PRESIDENT TRUMP's PROPOSED $1T USD INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN:
How The Trump Administration Can Fund a $1 Trillion Government Investment in Infrastructure Without Increasing the National Debt or Causing Significant Inflation
by Patrick S.J. Carmack, JD
The Trump Administration can fund its proposed $1 trillion US infrastructure rebuild without inflation or increasing the national debt, provided it is done without increasing the overall quantity of high-powered money in the money supply. There are two ways to do that: the simplest is by increasing the RRR (required reserve ratio – the proportion of bank assets held in cash or highly liquid assets); the other – more complex method – is by increasing the bank capital requirements (ratio of bank equity to debt).
Ironically, because of the size of this proposed expenditure, there exists the real possibility of indirectly introducing monetary reform in the US in approving this expenditure, provided it is done accompanied by one of the two mechanisms above, which would remove two principal objections to the proposal: that it will ultimately be highly inflationary and it will increase the national debt by $1 trillion. Such an increase in the money supply would indeed, inevitably be inflationary, unless a significant portion of these funds were “sterilized” (as has been done with most of the $4.5 trillion in “quantitative easing” Fed expenditures, with the interest cost on excess reserves held/sterilized at the Fed [presently c. $2 trillion] paid at taxpayer expense).
However, to make such an increase in government expenditures – over and above the huge current deficits – politically palatable, increasing the RRR to require increased bank reserves equal to the increased money supply caused by funding this specific program would absorb the new money without any inflationary (or deflationary) effect. This could not be done if the US already had a 100% RRR, but since our current RRR average is well below 10%, we have plenty of room to require banks to increase their reserves by the $1 trillion over ten years, thereby neutralizing the monetary expansion required for this program.
Since the US money supply (M2) is over $13 trillion (Nov., 2016), an increase in the RRR on the order of 7% (i.e., from the present 10% to 17% – this can easily be precisely calculated) would absorb the $1 trillion without any inflationary or deflationary effect. The RRR could be very gradually increased on a monthly basis (proportioned to the expenditures for the infrastructure project that month), which, if done over the proposed ten-year period, would average to less than a 1% RRR increase per year. It could also be done much more quickly – e.g., in two-four years.
Further, if this $1 trillion were introduced into the money supply as US Notes (i.e., simply not borrowed by the issuance of an equivalent amount of Treasury bonds and other securities), it would not increase the national debt. In fact, if these expenditures were made accompanied by the RRR increase suggested above, it would be important not to increase the national debt by selling Treasury bonds or securities, as this would drain the capital markets of such a sum, gradually increasing interest rates on the balance of the $20 trillion national debt, resulting in increasing interest costs on that debt, leading to higher budget deficits, and more debt. Each 1% interest rate increase would add approximately $200 billion in annual interest costs. This could only be avoided by continuing to keep the interest rates artificially low by government (Fed) interference in the capital markets, resulting in increasing bubbles in various sectors such as housing and the stock market, with inevitable price collapses in those sectors, at high social cost to the already debt-strapped American middle class, which could and probably would result in a new recession, or depression, defeating a large part of the whole purpose of the project: job creation.
Patrick S. J. Carmack
This approach then, would: balance the money/credit supply; provide the $1 trillion needed for this infrastructure project without increasing the national debt; be neither inflationary nor deflationary; and would be empirically instructive to both Congress and the American people that the current system of debt-financed US budget deficits (which the US has run 45 out of the last 50 years) is an unnecessary expense (interest on the debt is presently over $23 billion per month and rising) and needlessly transfers over 97% of the money-creation power of government and the seignorage (profit from money creation) to private banks, which is the main cause of the serious and growing income inequality in the US and internationally.
Patrick S.J. Carmack, JD
###
These are the True Enemies of our Liberty and Freedom:
http://www.restoring-america.com/Documen...0NOTES.pdf
https://mises.org/library/marxism-lives
http://www.returnofkings.com/123828/a-19...y-complete
https://youtu.be/6fQ4J9tcQ2I
https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/wat...-1963.html
Caduceus · 2019-01-19 15:11:00 · #88782
You can watch Trump's statement from the oval office live here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMKwsay...e=youtu.be
Starts in less than an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMKwsay...e=youtu.be
Starts in less than an hour.
Dusty · 2019-01-19 15:31:00 · #88783
Transsimian · 2019-01-19 15:38:00 · #88784
Gmac · 2019-01-19 15:38:00 · #88785
(01-19-2019 03:31 PM)Dusty Wrote: Uh oh
He's doing two events this afternoon. The first is literally a swearing in ceremony (the first of its kind) in the Oval Office for greencard holders being granted citizenship (legally). Setting the stage for his announcement, and entirely intentional.
Slow your roll.
Uzisuicide · 2019-01-19 15:53:00 · #88786
Trump shirt on, Trump flag flying in my front yard and ready for the announcement. Still on the Trump train!
NoMoreTO · 2019-01-19 16:05:00 · #88787
Its 4PM, Time to BUILD THE WALL!
Caduceus · 2019-01-19 16:21:00 · #88788
No declaration of a state of emergency...just another offer of a compromise with the dems and DACA amnesty.
Another fucking nothing burger from the president of endless let downs.
![[Image: nothingburger-cartoon-598.jpg]](http://www.cartoonaday.com/images/cartoons/2017/07/nothingburger-cartoon-598.jpg)
Another fucking nothing burger from the president of endless let downs.
MrLemon · 2019-01-19 16:29:00 · #88789
Caduceus · 2019-01-19 16:36:00 · #88790
For those who missed today's pathetic show of weakness:
Dusty · 2019-01-19 16:39:00 · #88791
Thersites · 2019-01-19 16:44:00 · #88792
Its other gesture to the Democrats to come to the table. We all know that is not happening on this forum, therefore the intended audience of address is the normies of the population. Trump is showing them that he is reasonable figure in the wall debate as Democrats further piss off their base and those affecting by the shutdown. The stunt with Pelsoi is painting a picture that Democrats do not care about the people and priming the audience with the idea of Democrats do not care for the people.
That my guess on the intention of today's address based on Trump's previous methods.
That my guess on the intention of today's address based on Trump's previous methods.
Deepdiver · 2019-01-19 16:45:00 · #88793
Clearly, a political flanking maneuver to reinforce the true nature of the crisis - offset the new caravans forming presstitute's coverage and hold the Demoncommunists Progressives at bay until the new AG Barr is actually confirmed by vote and officially Sworn in and can take the reins of the DOJ and actually fight the Demoncommunist Progressive Obamunits Crazy 9th Circuit and Hawaiian Fruits and Nuts courts and keep them from derailing this War Powers President's right and obligation to declare a sweeping national emergency on the borders and with the Drugs cartels networks USA-wide including criminal/terrorists activity on the Socialist Progressives Canadian border.
Nothing we need happens (Border and National Security) and prosecution of "Progressive" Clinton Obamunists Demoncommunists, until we have a war powers level Declaration of National Emergency - The Progressive Wing of the Demoncommunist (Dems) Party of the USA, is just too dug in and it is going to take nuclear napalm to burn them the hell out.
Nothing we need happens (Border and National Security) and prosecution of "Progressive" Clinton Obamunists Demoncommunists, until we have a war powers level Declaration of National Emergency - The Progressive Wing of the Demoncommunist (Dems) Party of the USA, is just too dug in and it is going to take nuclear napalm to burn them the hell out.
GlobalMan · 2019-01-19 16:48:00 · #88794
For the constant black pillers who don't have two brain cells to rub together, he already knows this offer will be rejected. They will reject all offers and won't fund the wall no matter what and have said so. This offer was already floated in private weeks ago.
The point is to leave absolutely no possibility of an out for the Dems. He can hammer - from now through the election - that he offered DACA in exchange for stopping illegal immigration, and the Dems said no.
What so many here don't realize is that the large middle - and even a portion of the right - are not as hardline and willing to put alligator moats and land mines and kill the browns tomorrow. He's not needing to convince member Cascadedus about a wall, he needs to convince millions of people that, contrary to what they hear every day, he is and has been reasonable and the other side has not.
Too many here live in a bubble.
Edit: the Twitter People posted while I was typing, but I thought it first!
The point is to leave absolutely no possibility of an out for the Dems. He can hammer - from now through the election - that he offered DACA in exchange for stopping illegal immigration, and the Dems said no.
What so many here don't realize is that the large middle - and even a portion of the right - are not as hardline and willing to put alligator moats and land mines and kill the browns tomorrow. He's not needing to convince member Cascadedus about a wall, he needs to convince millions of people that, contrary to what they hear every day, he is and has been reasonable and the other side has not.
Too many here live in a bubble.
Edit: the Twitter People posted while I was typing, but I thought it first!
Cr33pin · 2019-01-19 16:53:00 · #88795
I think this was just him having his deal (that he knows prally wont pass) put out for the masses to hear so that they know what ended up getting zero votes from the democrats. Before taking his next steps whatever they may be.
#MAGA
#MAGA
Barron · 2019-01-19 16:55:00 · #88796
Belgrano · 2019-01-19 17:00:00 · #88797
Winning the hearts and minds of NPCs all across the nation.
Wait and see.
Wait and see.
Caduceus · 2019-01-19 17:05:00 · #88798
GlobalMan · 2019-01-19 17:10:00 · #88799
^Shrill skeleton provocateur says something, story at 11
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This new offer was rejected even prior to the public announcement of it.
There is not going to be amnesty for BILLIONS OF PEOPLE. It was never a real offer because it was never going to be accepted, T knew this- and it was simply extending the current status for couple more years, not amnesty anyway. So Ann is not only misrepresenting the offer, she's misrepresenting a non offer that never mattered.
But that kind of basic analysis doesn't sell books and rile up black pillers
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Nancy Pelosi Wrote:Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives. It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter. For one thing, this proposal does not include the permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and supports.”
This new offer was rejected even prior to the public announcement of it.
There is not going to be amnesty for BILLIONS OF PEOPLE. It was never a real offer because it was never going to be accepted, T knew this- and it was simply extending the current status for couple more years, not amnesty anyway. So Ann is not only misrepresenting the offer, she's misrepresenting a non offer that never mattered.
But that kind of basic analysis doesn't sell books and rile up black pillers
CynicalContrarian · 2019-01-19 17:43:00 · #88800
If there's a big new, illegal, 5th column caravan headed to America from Honduras at the moment.
Perhaps better to declare a national emergency, just prior to those illegal 5th columnists getting to the border...?
Stop 'em all dead in their tracks.
Perhaps better to declare a national emergency, just prior to those illegal 5th columnists getting to the border...?
Stop 'em all dead in their tracks.
scotian · 2019-01-19 17:48:00 · #88801
(01-19-2019 05:43 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote: If there's a big new, illegal, 5th column caravan headed to America from Honduras at the moment.
Perhaps better to declare a national emergency, just prior to those illegal 5th columnists getting to the border...?
Stop 'em all dead in their tracks.
No need to shoot them, just bust a hole in a pipeline and let nature take it's course.
DAME MAS GASOLINA!
Johnnyvee · 2019-01-19 18:26:00 · #88802
Drama is drama, not real world changes. Are we being taken for a huge ride here? I think it`s fair to float the question at least. I`m not celebrating anything that is not real from now on at least.
PS: If Trump declares a national emergency and the wall building commences, I`ll gladly deep fry and eat my own balls. (I`d better pack an appetite.)
PPS: Peter Schiff has warned repeatedly that a Socialist candidate promoting universal basic income might come along and win an election in America. This in turn (according to Schiff) can trigger hyperinflation.
PS: If Trump declares a national emergency and the wall building commences, I`ll gladly deep fry and eat my own balls. (I`d better pack an appetite.)
PPS: Peter Schiff has warned repeatedly that a Socialist candidate promoting universal basic income might come along and win an election in America. This in turn (according to Schiff) can trigger hyperinflation.
TheBMan · 2019-01-19 18:49:00 · #88803
Skilled negotiators are always thinking many moves ahead. If you have ever negotiated a complex transaction it becomes more evident (buying a house or car aren't complex transactions). As others have already said he knows this is going to get rejected, thats the whole point. Its actually a pretty reasonable offer. In another week or two, when the government workers who live paycheck to paycheck are getting really pissed off and desperate Trump can say "look, I'm trying, I made a reasonable offer they flatly rejected, I skipped my Christmas trip, while all the Democrats want to do is party in Puerto Rico and fly around in government planes on taxpayer funded vacations" and he's correct.
CynicalContrarian · 2019-01-19 19:13:00 · #88804
Foolsgo1d · 2019-01-19 20:29:00 · #88805
Do you believe many Fed workers who hate Trump will see him as their saviour even after all the good things he has done? They will simply double down and will then start attacking each other. They wont ever admit Trump is right.