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MMX2010 · 2017-06-13 05:48:00 · #65755
I've been up way too many hours to give a great summary of this article, but you should read it.

Basically, Trump and Bannon have been feeding the media with untrue stories of organizational chaos, to distract them while they accomplish important policy.

http://bigleaguepolitics.com/trumps-chee...-strategy/
TravelerKai · 2017-06-13 08:43:00 · #65756
Check out this story about Comey and possible leaking.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/...thers.html

Quote:were there others?
Cody Derespina
By Cody Derespina Published June 13, 2017 Fox News


President Trump’s legal team may be prepared to show a trail of leaks to The New York Times by former FBI Director James Comey – dating back to at least March – in a pair of complaints set to be filed to the Justice Department inspector general and Senate Judiciary Committee, a source close to the team told Fox News.

An independent Fox News review of The New York Times’ reporting dating back to January reveals a host of stories sourced from top FBI and DOJ officials – or those privy to their conversations – that either paint Comey in a positive light or push a message he was unable to personally disclose.

Though Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 3 he’d never been -- or directed another FBI official to be -- an anonymous source for news reports about the Trump and Hillary Clinton investigations, the then-FBI chief did not deny orchestrating leaks using, for instance, an old friend who works at Columbia University, or providing the information to a wide enough group to ensure it would leak.

And in reference to a separate case, he acknowledged sending his infamous letter to lawmakers last fall announcing a revival of the Clinton email probe knowing full well what they'd do: "Did I know they were really going to leak it? Of course, I know how Congress works.”

Comey, who was fired by Trump in May, was open about at least one leak in testimony last Thursday.

He admitted to using an ex-U.S. attorney, later identified as Columbia University Prof. Daniel Richman, to leak to The Times the contents of alleged memos Comey wrote about his one-on-one interactions with Trump. He was not asked if he had ever used Richman on other occasions; however, Richman is mentioned in 151 results in a New York Times search dating back to 1993, with 11 of those articles also featuring Comey and six of them being authored by Michael S. Schmidt – who later wrote the “Comey memos” story which Comey told Congress he directed Richman to leak.

Dating back to at least Jan. 10, The Times has published confidential information related to Trump and the FBI, mostly sourced anonymously from senior officials in the FBI and DOJ:

Jan. 6 – Comey, in written testimony, said he briefed then-President-elect Trump while the two men were alone in Trump Tower on this date. The briefing dealt with the salacious and unverified dossier alleging that Russia had compromising information about Trump. According to Comey’s account, both he and ex-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper decided Comey should be the only one to brief Trump. One of the reasons for this arrangement, Comey wrote, was because he was staying on as FBI director – though no official announcement had been made about this and subsequent reports indicate Trump didn’t ask Comey about remaining in his capacity until this meeting took place.

Jan. 10 – The Times reports on the Comey/Trump dossier meeting, citing “2 officials with knowledge of the briefing.” More inside-the-FBI information also exists in the article, including when the FBI first became aware of the dossier and the troubles agents had confirming the document’s details.

Jan. 24 – Though Trump hadn’t made an official announcement, The Times reports Comey would be staying on as FBI director. Comey had reportedly told a large group about the news, in this case special agents in charge from across the nation. Trump’s request that Comey remain on allegedly occurred during the Jan. 6 Trump Tower meeting. Schmidt wrote the story.

Feb. 24 – Following a CNN report about contacts between Trump associates and Russia, The Times reports (the same day) that both Comey and Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe allegedly called White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to assure him the CNN report was false. Priebus asked the FBI leaders if they could refute the report in public, though they both declined. When the reported calls between the FBI officials and Priebus surfaces, Trump is infuriated and tweets that the FBI needs to work aggressively to stop the leaks.

March 1 – A DOJ official confirms to The Times that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had a pair of conversations with Russian official Sergey Kislyak despite Sessions’ Jan. 10 testimony that he hadn’t had contact with Russians in a campaign capacity. This news, and the ensuing firestorm, leads to Sessions recusing himself from the Russia investigation. Comey said in his June written statement that he knew as far back as mid February that Sessions would likely be recusing himself. This was one of the reasons he gave for not telling Sessions about his interactions with Trump. Schmidt contributed to this article.

March 4 – Trump infamously tweets that his phones had been “tapped” at Trump Tower by the Obama administration during the transition. A “senior law enforcement official from the Obama Administration” tells The Times that Trump’s claim is “100 percent untrue.” Schmidt contributed to this article.

March 5 – Several “senior American officials and senior FBI officials” tell The Times that Comey argued that Trump’s surveillance claim was false and had to be publicly corrected, even going so far as to ask DOJ to push back on the allegation. The Justice Department does not do so, though Comey’s concerns are voiced in the article without him ever giving an on-the-record quote. Schmidt contributed to this article.


March 6 – The Trump administration pushes back on the reported Comey concerns publicized in the previous day’s Times story. Comey “was said to be disturbed” by the claims because the Trump allegations insinuated the FBI had broken the law. Schmidt wrote this article.

April 22 – The Times publishes a very lengthy profile of Comey featuring several in-depth, inside-the-room details and on-the-record quotes from Richman. The piece portrays Comey as a man attempting to “shield the FBI” from politics while struggling to do the right thing. Schmidt contributed to the article.

May 9 – Comey is fired by Trump.

May 10 – Richman is quoted in a Times story about Comey and foreshadows the alleged request for loyalty Trump made of Comey: “With a president who seems to prize personal loyalty above all else and a director with absolute commitment to the Constitution and pursuing investigations wherever the evidence led, a collision was bound to happen.”

May 11 – In the afternoon, Trump gives an interview to Lester Holt in which Trump calls Comey a “showboat.” Later that night, The New York Times publishes details of an alleged dinner meeting between Trump and Comey in which Trump “demanded loyalty” and Comey demurred. The article, written by Schmidt, cites “associates” of Comey.

May 12 – A tweet from Trump, ostensibly sent in response to the latest Times story, suggests Comey is the source of the leak and tells him he should hope Trump doesn’t have “tapes” of their conversations.

May 16 – Comey testified in June he woke up in the middle of the night and decided he needed to get his side of the story out (though most of the details were already reported in the May 11 article). That day, the story about Comey’s alleged memos of the Trump meetings is reported in a New York Times story. Schmidt wrote the article. This is the only leak Comey has acknowledged some role in.

A spokesperson for Trump’s legal team said Monday there was no update on the filings.

Fox News’ John Roberts contributed to this report.

This is the same Comey that gets in front of Congress talking about how the FBI takes leaks very seriously, several months ago.

The same ol sloppy Comey that seems to swear on his ma's grave that Russia "hacked" our election or tampered with it, and has gotten conservatives and democrats to believe it.

THE SAME COMEY that got his secret Twitter account found by some chick from Gawker media, showing clear interests in the NY Times and against Trump related things.

When Trump kept calling Comey to tell him that he expects loyalty, he was doing that because he was watching that idiot fucker from a distance, knowing damn well what he was doing, and what he was up to. Comey the clown kept trying to play dumb like a little college age girl, "*awkward silence*" "Um okay Mr. President."

Now we know why. He wanted to bait Trump into saying more than just that so that he could catch him in something legit, like outright orders to drop something, etc. Trump isn't going to fall for that. In fact, I bet money, someone on Comey's senior staff was probably telling Trump about the memos and stories Comey kept telling them about his encounters with the President. Trump kept waiting for jackass to figure it out, but after 3 times or so, he figured out that this dude isn't too bright.

When Obama called Comey an idiot, boy he was not fucking kidding at all. In corporate, if your CEO comes up to you and you are a director, and tells you he expects loyalty, or "Your doing a great job!". That means one of two things. First one is that he is watching you and knows everything you are doing because someone in your dept or outside it is his snitch. Second one, absolutely nothing because he could care less and he just wants you to feel his breath on the back of your neck because he could fire you tomorrow for no reason at all, so you better work better than what you are doing right now.

Comey called this shit strange. How clueless can someone his age be? I'm probably half his age and I know better than this!

What's to say Trump does not have NYTimes spies either? He is from there after all. His hatred of that paper does not mean he has a flipped source over there at all.

Comey hates when the NYTimes gets it's information wrong right? Well that's because they got his version of something, then they asked another FBI agent or someone else and they combine both stories. Sometimes they just fucking make shit up! Either way it pisses him off, because he has to then go to Congress to clarify or talk about it, making his job harder.

At this rate Comey should seriously fuck off somewhere for a while. The more he talks, the bigger the fool he sounds. His case for worst or dumbest FBI director in US history is looking better every time he talks. He may have talked himself into felony level trouble.

It's no wonder Newt Gingrich is trolling the Republicans super hard to fire Bob Mueller as special prosecutor for the Russia junk. Comey is so mentally retarded but yet Bob was his mentor and his predecessor! In some ways you really cannot blame Newt for thinking all this shit could be a set up. That said, if Trump fired him, that might be a really bad mistake that could dog him for years. Congress would go apeshit and it would look ultra bad. It's not an easy call at all, but if these guys are that stupid, perhaps it's worth the risk in a way to show liberals how lame they are, and use it as fuel for the second term to crush them even more in the election by pointing out how they wasted taxpayer money and valuable time on fake Russia witch-hunts.
Leonard D Neubache · 2017-06-13 09:32:00 · #65757
Lately Travelerkai reminds me about why political intrigue in America is once again actually becoming interesting.

Because until Trump was elected you could read that entire piece he's provided there and at the end you'd have to add "but everyone involved is going to take their bribe and all guilty parties are going to skate on everything, like they always do".

Now? Let the games begin!
RaccoonFace · 2017-06-13 09:53:00 · #65758


Dusty · 2017-06-13 10:07:00 · #65759
Important article. I recommend everyone read it.

debeguiled · 2017-06-13 11:01:00 · #65760
(06-08-2017 09:48 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Latest update on Reality Winner, a contractor who got arrested for leaking classified information to a news media outlet. She is a very manipulative chick because the authorities recorded her conversations with her family members on her plan to play the victim in court.

Winner worked as a contractor for the government and is accused of giving classified information from the National Security Agency to an online news outlet.

Prosecutors said a phone call to her sister expressed her confidence in how to play the court during her bond hearing.

“I’m pretty, white and cute,” she allegedly told her sister. Prosecutors said Winner told her sister she would braid her hair and cry in court.


[Image: 415FF4D400000578-0-image-m-53_1497314696459.jpg]
Belgrano · 2017-06-13 11:09:00 · #65761
POTUS Trump not holding back today!



Retweet by Trump:





Agree
iop890 · 2017-06-13 11:35:00 · #65762
SamuelBRoberts · 2017-06-13 12:03:00 · #65763
(06-13-2017 12:06 AM)Lockwood Wrote:  Was it a vampire horse?

Where do you even get a "silver nail"? Is there a silver nail store?

There's a lot of mysteries here.
heavy · 2017-06-13 14:38:00 · #65764
So glad Drudge is still out there informing the masses.

The front page picture is the play with assassinated Trump laying on the stage floor...

"AMERICAN EXPRESS refuses to pull funding... "

Welp, I'm getting rid of my amex.
kaotic · 2017-06-13 14:49:00 · #65765
Jeff Sessions is live

https://twitter.com/i/live/874318972522438657

More updates as this evolves:

Ron Wyden sounds like such a cucked faggot.

Sessions sounds really pissed of but professional.

Interesting use of judicial "privilege" by sessions - he won't answer about discussions with Trump.

This literally sounds like a McCarthy style hearing to me.

This thing is so fucking confusing as far as executive privilege goes, they keep asking about it from Sessions.

Lankford is the real deal holding it down for Sessions, damn !
GlobalMan · 2017-06-13 14:54:00 · #65766
Man, Sessions is doing great, not taking shit from these witch hunting assholes. Awesome
TravelerKai · 2017-06-13 14:55:00 · #65767
(06-13-2017 02:38 PM)heavy Wrote:  So glad Drudge is still out there informing the masses.

The front page picture is the play with assassinated Trump laying on the stage floor...

"AMERICAN EXPRESS refuses to pull funding... "

Welp, I'm getting rid of my amex.

Liberals really get on my nerves. If anyone performed a play of Obama getting killed there would have been another Rodney King type riot across the country for at least a week.

I don't know if Trump isn't letting the Secret Service actually press for charges (or the FBI?) or what, but this shit is getting out of hand. Someone needs to start going to jail otherwise some whackjob will feel encouraged to actually make an attempt on Trump's life. It was kinda funny seeing Kathy Griffin have her career temporarily destroyed, but too many Hollywood liberals quickly came in to rescue her and make excuses for her.

Letting these people do this does make them look like animals and hurts their causes ultimately, but it sends the wrong signal from a safety point of view.

Somebody needs to jail for this to let the whole country know that you cannot threaten violence against a standing president like that.
Fisto · 2017-06-13 14:58:00 · #65768
I just don't see how this Mueller faggot managed to be appointed.
Kid Twist · 2017-06-13 15:44:00 · #65769
Anyone seen the Pat Buchanan article? Will Trump be successful in an all out onslaught on the leakers, media, and get most Americans to still back him?

The first year of this battle will set the stage ...
TravelerKai · 2017-06-13 15:44:00 · #65770
(06-13-2017 02:58 PM)Fisto Wrote:  I just don't see how this Mueller faggot managed to be appointed.

He has a good reputation, if you take away the fact that he made Comey his deputy, trained him, and loves him dearly.
Once Was Not · 2017-06-13 15:45:00 · #65771
I was disappointed that he affirmed that he believed it to be so that there was Russian interference in the election when asked by that one guy. Especially when he qualified it by saying he had only seen evidence of it in newspapers and such. As if "everyone seems convinced so I guess it must be true". Like...come on man.

Wyden sounds like a faggot. How does he ever get mad at anyone without them cracking up at his silly voice?

Lankford and Cotton were entertaining. Nothing much else going on. This is all, of course, just a waste of time anyway.

Let all these liberals pick up a rifle and go to the Russia front themselves if they're so threatened by them.
Wutang · 2017-06-13 15:57:00 · #65772
Huckabee Sanders is going to be replacing Sean Spicer according to a WH source:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/...secretary/

Quote:Sarah Huckabee Sanders, daughter of former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, will be taking over for current White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, a source close to Spicer confirmed to the Gateway Pundit recently.

Spicer, a Commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve, is reported to be up for a promotion to a different communications role within the White House once Sanders fills his slot. The change in roles for Spicer comes at a time when internal leaks have reached a peak.
MajorStyles · 2017-06-13 15:57:00 · #65773
(06-13-2017 11:01 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  [Image: 415FF4D400000578-0-image-m-53_1497314696459.jpg]
Highfive
Kaii · 2017-06-13 16:05:00 · #65774
(06-13-2017 03:57 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Huckabee Sanders is going to be replacing Sean Spicer according to a WH source:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/...secretary/

Quote:Sarah Huckabee Sanders, daughter of former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, will be taking over for current White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, a source close to Spicer confirmed to the Gateway Pundit recently.

Spicer, a Commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve, is reported to be up for a promotion to a different communications role within the White House once Sanders fills his slot. The change in roles for Spicer comes at a time when internal leaks have reached a peak.


Is this is a good or bad thing?
Menace · 2017-06-13 16:07:00 · #65775
^^^ Good thing. She's much better than Spicer; he was just not cut out for the job.
Samseau · 2017-06-13 16:07:00 · #65776
(06-13-2017 02:55 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 02:38 PM)heavy Wrote:  So glad Drudge is still out there informing the masses.

The front page picture is the play with assassinated Trump laying on the stage floor...

"AMERICAN EXPRESS refuses to pull funding... "

Welp, I'm getting rid of my amex.

Liberals really get on my nerves. If anyone performed a play of Obama getting killed there would have been another Rodney King type riot across the country for at least a week.

I don't know if Trump isn't letting the Secret Service actually press for charges (or the FBI?) or what, but this shit is getting out of hand. Someone needs to start going to jail otherwise some whackjob will feel encouraged to actually make an attempt on Trump's life. It was kinda funny seeing Kathy Griffin have her career temporarily destroyed, but too many Hollywood liberals quickly came in to rescue her and make excuses for her.

Letting these people do this does make them look like animals and hurts their causes ultimately, but it sends the wrong signal from a safety point of view.

Somebody needs to jail for this to let the whole country know that you cannot threaten violence against a standing president like that.

I believe the irony of using Trump as Caesar who gets assassinated and causes the destruction of the Republic is totally lost on liberals. Do they really expect anything different if one of their deranged fantasies to murder Trump actually occurs?
kaotic · 2017-06-13 16:14:00 · #65777
Overall the Sessions hearing was once again much ado about nothing - Kamala Harris being annoying as fuck as per usual.

Sessions kept stating privilege as well.

All these hearings are literally just a repeat of the last ones - it's a waste of tax dollars.

Actually I take that back - it's a great use of tax dollars to show how pathetic these dems are on their witch hunt.

My only issue is Session saying there was hacking by the Russians.
TravelerKai · 2017-06-13 16:19:00 · #65778
(06-13-2017 04:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 02:55 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 02:38 PM)heavy Wrote:  So glad Drudge is still out there informing the masses.

The front page picture is the play with assassinated Trump laying on the stage floor...

"AMERICAN EXPRESS refuses to pull funding... "

Welp, I'm getting rid of my amex.

Liberals really get on my nerves. If anyone performed a play of Obama getting killed there would have been another Rodney King type riot across the country for at least a week.

I don't know if Trump isn't letting the Secret Service actually press for charges (or the FBI?) or what, but this shit is getting out of hand. Someone needs to start going to jail otherwise some whackjob will feel encouraged to actually make an attempt on Trump's life. It was kinda funny seeing Kathy Griffin have her career temporarily destroyed, but too many Hollywood liberals quickly came in to rescue her and make excuses for her.

Letting these people do this does make them look like animals and hurts their causes ultimately, but it sends the wrong signal from a safety point of view.

Somebody needs to jail for this to let the whole country know that you cannot threaten violence against a standing president like that.

I believe the irony of using Trump as Caesar who gets assassinated and causes the destruction of the Republic is totally lost on liberals. Do they really expect anything different if one of their deranged fantasies to murder Trump actually occurs?

Considering who came up with the play, perhaps that is why they enjoy this fantasy. Anything that accelerates progress towards the new Sodom and Gomorrah is good in their eyes.
DamienCasanova · 2017-06-13 16:28:00 · #65779
(06-13-2017 04:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I believe the irony of using Trump as Caesar who gets assassinated and causes the destruction of the Republic is totally lost on liberals. Do they really expect anything different if one of their deranged fantasies to murder Trump actually occurs?

The result unforeseen by the assassins was that Caesar's death precipitated the end of the Roman Republic.[107] The Roman middle and lower classes, with whom Caesar was immensely popular and had been since before Gaul, became enraged that a small group of aristocrats had killed their champion. Antony, who had been drifting apart from Caesar, capitalised on the grief of the Roman mob and threatened to unleash them on the Optimates, perhaps with the intent of taking control of Rome himself. To his surprise and chagrin, Caesar had named his grandnephew Gaius Octavius his sole heir (hence the name Octavian), bequeathing him the immensely potent Caesar name and making him one of the wealthiest citizens in the Republic.[108]

The crowd at the funeral boiled over, throwing dry branches, furniture, and even clothing on to Caesar's funeral pyre, causing the flames to spin out of control, seriously damaging the Forum. The mob then attacked the houses of Brutus and Cassius, where they were repelled only with considerable difficulty, ultimately providing the spark for the civil war, fulfilling at least in part Antony's threat against the aristocrats.[109] Antony did not foresee the ultimate outcome of the next series of civil wars, particularly with regard to Caesar's adopted heir. Octavian, aged only 18 when Caesar died, proved to have considerable political skills, and while Antony dealt with Decimus Brutus in the first round of the new civil wars, Octavian consolidated his tenuous position.

To combat Brutus and Cassius, who were massing an enormous army in Greece, Antony needed soldiers, the cash from Caesar's war chests, and the legitimacy that Caesar's name would provide for any action he took against them. With the passage of the lex Titia on 27 November 43 BC,[110] the Second Triumvirate was officially formed, composed of Antony, Octavian, and Caesar's loyal cavalry commander Lepidus.[111] It formally deified Caesar as Divus Iulius in 42 BC, and Caesar Octavian henceforth became Divi filius ("Son of a god")

Because Caesar's clemency had resulted in his murder, the Second Triumvirate reinstated the practice of proscription, abandoned since Sulla.[113] It engaged in the legally sanctioned murder of a large number of its opponents to secure funding for its 45 legions in the second civil war against Brutus and Cassius.[114] Antony and Octavian defeated them at Philippi


Yeah the liberal aristocrats are ignorant of history as usual. The way this fantasy scenario would end would be Trump being posthumously declared a Son of God, and them being lynched.
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