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Valentine · 2016-12-20 18:58:00 · #54130
I'd propose child support be more nuanced to incentivise white people to finally increase birth rates again: child support is much higher if you are married and at least one person is employed. They're more likely to fulfil both criteria thus are incentivised.

Child support would be minimal if unmarried and contraception mandatory after several babies out of wedlock. This way you disincentivise many children being born by single mothers who shouldn't be having them in the first place.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-12-20 19:29:00 · #54131
Samseau Wrote:Nah, just deport about 10 million illegals there, and break up Cali into 3 or 4 states. At least one of them will go Republican giving us a chunk of those 55 EC votes.

Eastside Wrote:Or 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

[Image: Six_Californias.png]

I agree though. If Cali split up and we were also able to get most of the illegals out, then I see Republicans picking up at least 20 EVs minimum. For now, I guess all we can do is stoke any divisions that pop up within the state and also focus on enforcing immigration in general (something Trump will do).

^ I agree. I don't think the United States should give one inch of ground to leftists, literally or figuratively. To allow secession, in my opinion, sets a bad precedent for future troublemakers. These fucks need to learn whining and crying to get your own "safe space" isn't going to work anymore.
Deepdiver · 2016-12-20 19:42:00 · #54132
Believe it or not George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were both big believers in Firing Squads for Deserters and Traitors.

Trump is cut from their same cloth ... chosen by the divinely inspired mandate of Armies of Armed and Ready Patriots to become high protector of our sacred Constitution and saviour of the Righteous Union. All of the Union North South East and West... ALL of it on my and my millions of Brothers in Arms lifetime Oath of Honor and Blood.
kaotic · 2016-12-20 19:44:00 · #54133
Guys CA secession ISN'T going to happen, lets get that out of our heads.

I'll be damned if this state does.
Deepdiver · 2016-12-20 19:47:00 · #54134
^^^ two operative words... Firing Squads.
komatiite · 2016-12-20 19:54:00 · #54135
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/obama-...-1.3905384

What is this performance here by Obama and Trudeau. Banning all drilling in the Arctic and Atlantic? Especially dumb by Trudeau this is a defiant move. Apparently this legislation by Obama is super hard to cancel as per the legal scholars in various left wing comment sections but I have no idea.
TravelerKai · 2016-12-20 19:56:00 · #54136
(12-20-2016 03:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  [Image: 2znx4ep.jpg]


Kinda disappointed that Trump and co. are listening to this war crimes hack.

Let me call time out for a minute. I'm pretty drunk but forgive me fellas.

This might be best saved for a discussion in the Deep Forum, but let's address now.

Kissinger, regardless of where your political ideology lies, is a very important thinker and strategist in regards to political theory and US Foreign Policy.

He is part of the Realism group of political thinkers. Machiavelli, Thomas Hobbes, Carl Von Clausewitz, Kenneth Waltz, Stephen Walt, etc. are core thinkers in this style of political theory.

We ourselves arguably come from this style of political thought. These guys were the Manosphere long before it ever existed. They advocated realistic solutions for social matters and political matters based upon actual human behavior and social dynamics. They understood/understand human nature on a level that rivals game.

Before I became redpill I was a huge fan of these thinkers. Still am. They could explain why people do what they do without the political correctness others use.

We have guys like this to thank for things like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(i...relations)

Take some time to read through these things. I promise you, you will be better off for it and it will expand the way you think in general. If Roosh could read Machiavelli or something like 48 laws of power, you guys should read it and these other thinkers as well. Kissinger included. Even when I was a liberal I deeply respected his theories and ideas. I'm not alone, other liberals do as well.

Kissinger may be too old to give alot of advice, but Trump and Pence would be smart to think about the ideas he had and his school of thought. He isn't perfect but he is pretty close to the last kind of redpilled men in US Govt. we have. We need more RealPolitik in our daily foreign policy in this country. We can learn alot from Kissinger and others like him. Just think past the things the neocons latched on. Trump is already anti-globalist, so I do not expect for him to take on that part from Kissinger, but fashion the rest to fit his goals.

If Kissinger wanted to give me advice I would listen to it. I don't have to use it, but I would greatly appreciate it. Any redpill man should as well.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-12-20 20:11:00 · #54137
(12-20-2016 07:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys CA secession ISN'T going to happen, lets get that out of our heads.

I'll be damned if this state does.

Secession won't happen, I agree with you. My response was in regards to those who think we should be working with the left in order to help California secede. We're about to have President Donald J. Trump in the White House and Republicans hold both House and Senate, there's absolutely no reason we should be humoring leftists at all by giving them even one-inch of ground, literally or figuratively, as I mentioned earlier.

Would they have shown us any mercy had they won? Absolutely not. As such, it isn't enough for us to defeat our enemies, we must completely crush them. I'm looking forward to seeing what tricks Trump has up his sleeve next.
MiscBrah · 2016-12-20 22:00:00 · #54138
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CynicalContrarian · 2016-12-21 00:48:00 · #54139
Re: Kissinger.
For all his talk about instilling a one world government.
Once he & Soros are dead. I'd say we'd all be better off.
Paracelsus · 2016-12-21 05:12:00 · #54140
(12-20-2016 07:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys CA secession ISN'T going to happen, lets get that out of our heads.

I'll be damned if this state does.

Agreed. While it would be fucking hilarious to watch, wars start fundamentally for economic reasons, and what exactly does anyone in California stand to gain from seceding and becoming an independent state? They have to pay for their own welfare systems, defence, food deals, everything. This secession bullshit is just another tired ideological whine. California's not going anywhere because it lacks either the resources to do so or, when it comes down to it, the balls.
Uzisuicide · 2016-12-21 06:42:00 · #54141
There were grumblings of secession after Bush won the election in '00 without the popular vote. Nothing new, won't happen.
beta_plus · 2016-12-21 08:41:00 · #54142
(12-20-2016 07:56 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(12-20-2016 03:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  [Image: 2znx4ep.jpg]


Kinda disappointed that Trump and co. are listening to this war crimes hack.

Let me call time out for a minute. I'm pretty drunk but forgive me fellas.

This might be best saved for a discussion in the Deep Forum, but let's address now.

Kissinger, regardless of where your political ideology lies, is a very important thinker and strategist in regards to political theory and US Foreign Policy.

...

We have guys like this to thank for things like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(i...relations)

Take some time to read through these things. I promise you, you will be better off for it and it will expand the way you think in general.

...

He isn't perfect but he is pretty close to the last kind of redpilled men in US Govt. we have.

...

If Kissinger wanted to give me advice I would listen to it. I don't have to use it, but I would greatly appreciate it. Any redpill man should as well.

Now that you point it out, I definitely see how one could consider Kissinger old school redpilled.

"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac" was sort of the "Grab 'em by the pussy" of its time.
Dusty · 2016-12-21 10:23:00 · #54143
   
Wutang · 2016-12-21 11:09:00 · #54144
GOP cucks are being kept in check by the Emperor's shitposting stormtroopers.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/do...ans-232800

Quote:It’s little wonder that Capitol Hill Republicans have papered over their not-insignificant policy differences with Trump, shying away from any statement about the president-elect that might possibly be construed as critical. They’re terrified of arousing the ire of their tempestuous new leader — or being labeled a turncoat by his army of followers.

Since the election, numerous congressional Republicans have refused to publicly weigh in on any Trump proposal at odds with Republican orthodoxy, from his border wall to his massive infrastructure package. The most common reason, stated repeatedly but always privately: They're afraid of being attacked by Breitbart or other big-name Trump supporters.

For all the talk of Trump being some sort of fascist who is against the principles of democracy, I can't think of any other recent presidential administration where government officials are being kept in check by THE PEOPLE as much as they are now.
Glaucon · 2016-12-21 11:55:00 · #54145
Sheriff Richard K Jones, an Ohio elector, burns letters sent by whiny liberals which were begging him not to vote Trump.

[Image: WCPO_Richard_Jones_1482235776373_5179519...40_480.jpg]

How can we win so much?
H1N1 · 2016-12-21 12:29:00 · #54146
(12-21-2016 11:55 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Sheriff Richard K Jones, an Ohio elector, burns letters sent by whiny liberals which were begging him not to vote Trump.

[Image: WCPO_Richard_Jones_1482235776373_5179519...40_480.jpg]

How can we win so much?

This guy looks exactly how I imagine a Midwest elector should look, a complete caricature, every gloriously American inch of him.
Samseau · 2016-12-21 12:47:00 · #54147
Lots of talk about Trump's new tariffs:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20...king-about

Why Trump's "Border Tax Proposal" Is The "Most Important Thing Nobody Is Talking About"

Quote:While the market, and various pundits and economists have been mostly focused on the still to be disclosed details of Trump's infrastructure spending aspects of his fiscal plan, "one of the least talked about but possibly most important tax shifts in the history of the United States" is, according to DB, House Speaker Paul Ryan’s and President-elect Trump’s “border tax adjustment” proposal.

This is part of the “Better Way” reform package and also figures prominently in the writings of senior Trump administration officials.

What is it?

Put simply, the proposal would tax US imports at the corporate income tax rate, while exempting income earned from exports from any taxation. The reform would closely mirror tax border adjustments in economies with consumption-based VAT tax systems. If enacted, the plan will likely be extremely bullish for the US dollar. What’s more, it would have a transformational impact on the US trade relationship with the rest of the world.

[...]

Taking all of the above into account, the academic literature is unambiguous in its conclusion that the dollar should rally strongly in the event a “border tax adjustment” is put in place. An appreciating dollar would be a natural response to an improving US trade balance and the competitiveness gains achieved by the shift in the relative prices of exports over imports. In extremis, the dollar would rally by 15% to fully offset the price changes caused by the tax. This analysis is partial however, with the knock-on consequences on the Fed, US corporate off-shoring and global trade relations likely making the impact even more material.

Deutsche Bank concludes that combined with potential changes to the treatment of unrepatriated earnings, "the proposed changes to the US corporate tax code could be one of the most important shifts in US tax and international trade policy in a generation."

We wholeheartedly agree with DB's assessment in this particular case.
Samseau · 2016-12-21 12:51:00 · #54148
(12-20-2016 06:32 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^ Welfare has to be a rock bottom lifestyle and child support should no longer exist.

The government and the single-mother industry can't have it both ways (taxing a man to provide welfare for stranger's kids and then slugging him with child support payments for his own in addition).

As long as women bear few to no consequences for walking away from a reasonable provider they will always do so as and where their feelz dictate.

This will never, ever happen. Cutting off welfare might be popular in Right-wing circles but it is a losing position with moderates and the left.

Conversely, mandatory birth-control is far less punishing and does not like kids starve on the street. It also severely reduces the amount of bastards that need to be taken care of. See more details in the Future of America thread.
Latinopan · 2016-12-21 13:03:00 · #54149
(12-21-2016 11:55 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Sheriff Richard K Jones, an Ohio elector, burns letters sent by whiny liberals which were begging him not to vote Trump.

[Image: WCPO_Richard_Jones_1482235776373_5179519...40_480.jpg]

How can we win so much?

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911 · 2016-12-21 14:20:00 · #54150
That looks like Maria Bartiromo, nice Italian cleavage.
Praetor Lupus · 2016-12-21 15:23:00 · #54151
(12-21-2016 11:55 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Sheriff Richard K Jones, an Ohio elector, burns letters sent by whiny liberals which were begging him not to vote Trump.

[Image: WCPO_Richard_Jones_1482235776373_5179519...40_480.jpg]

How can we win so much?

That is the most Pepe-like picture of a human being I have ever seen in my life.
Belgrano · 2016-12-21 15:35:00 · #54152
Regarding California:

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In other news:

Quote:Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract

A new study by economists from Harvard and Princeton indicates that 94% of the 10 million new jobs created during the Obama era were temporary positions.

The study shows that the jobs were temporary, contract positions, or part-time "gig" jobs in a variety of fields.

Female workers suffered most heavily in this economy, as work in traditionally feminine fields, like education and medicine, declined during the era.

The research by economists Lawrence Katz of Harvard University and Alan Krueger at Princeton University shows that the proportion of workers throughout the U.S., during the Obama era, who were working in these kinds of temporary jobs, increased from 10.7% of the population to 15.8%.

Krueger, a former chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, was surprised by the finding.

The disappearance of conventional full-time work, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. work, has hit every demographic. “Workers seeking full-time, steady work have lost,” said Krueger.

Under Obama, 1 million fewer workers, overall, are working than before the beginning of the Great Recession.

The outgoing president believes his administration was a net positive for workers, however.

"Since I signed Obamacare into law (in 2010), our businesses have added more than 15 million new jobs," said Obama, during his farewell press conference last Friday, covered by Investing.com.
Menace · 2016-12-21 16:00:00 · #54153
This is why I hate those statistics about X number of jobs created in month Y. The number is meaningless without knowing what classes of jobs were created and in what sectors. Similarly the unemployment numbers are meaningless. CNN produces fake news reports and the government produces fake jobs reports (not even limited to the current administration).
eljeffster · 2016-12-21 16:23:00 · #54154
With all of Mexico's whinning about possible Trump tarrifs or taxes on money sent by illegals back to the homeland, it conveniently forgets that it has a tourist tax for anyone going further than about 20 miles South of the border. It works out to about 20 something US dollars depending on exchange.

I don't really mind paying to plunder Mexico's best resource: latina pussy.
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