And another article by a leftist site acknowledging that Trump's trolling is so advanced that many people are only falling for the lowest hanging fruit surface level interpretation and not seeing the not so obvious signals he is sending out. Trump's taco bowl tweet is held up as an example of this in the articled linked below.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/20...ally-wrong

Quote:Plus it gets a ton of attention, and it also induces loads of mockery from overeducated PC liberals who don't understand a compliment when they see one. It's really a genius tweet.

If you look at the highest liked comments on Facebook for the taco bowl pic you'll see some people making comments along the lines of "omg so racist it's like saying I love blacks because I like fried chicken" and "omg he's such a moron he doesn't even understand the point of Cinco de Mayo and that a taco bowl is not real Mexican food". A lot of people are going to see those comments and it's just going to further reinforce the image that regular Joe Sixpack Americans have of anti-Trump people being a bunch of overly-PC stick-in-the-ass types that cry racism at every little infraction - such as getting angry about eating a taco bowl on Cinco de Mayo. There's always been a big portion of Americans that hate PC culture but in 2016 this amount is at an all time high so Trump's tweet will have more effect now then any other year in the past decade.

The absolute madman.

(05-06-2016 10:34 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  "Dangerous Donald" is a nickname coined by people with a tin ear. It won't work because it's cutesy and alliterative. It sounds like a cartoon character.

Great post and I agree for the most part. However I'm a bit uncertain about this point. I've also thought of this factor but decided to leave it out because I couldn't make up my mind about it. The thing is, it's true that it sounds cartoony (at least for some), but the effect of that is less than clear. On one hand, the cartooniness can make the notion that he's is a serious danger seems silly. On the hand, precisely for this, it can create the impression that he is an act-tough poser who shouldn't be taken seriously, a 'look, we have a badass here' kind of thing. Again, this factor seems too elusive for me to determine precisely how it would work out - personally.


But even if the latter is the stronger case, I don't think it would have a serious effect on Trump's image. That point (he is an act-tough poser) has been made before, by his opponents.

Meanwhile, in Prole World:

I was talking to my Stepdad back in Oz earlier. He went to see 'Comedian' Jim Jefferies last night and was raving about the show, and how 'intelligent' the guy was, because he touched on 'many political topics', so it was 'deep' as well as 'funny'.

"He was talking about Trump, and saying how he wanted to identify and register all the Muslims in the country ."

Then his voiced changed, in that classic Leftist way of aping someone they read as more intelligent than them saying something they heard other people laughing at, which they then parrot in the hope observers read them as similarily-intelligent and funny too.

In obvious imitation of Jefferies, whom I'm guessing is as unfunny as any modern leftist comedian, he said "Hmmm... that sounds like someone we all know of."

He waited for the laugh, so I grunted, not taking the bait.

"Do you know who he meant?" He never has really understood just how intelligent my sister and I are, because doing so would vastly-threaten his ego.

"Nah," I said. I wanted him to work for it.

"Hitler."

"Oh." I didn't laugh, but asked "How much did you pay for the ticket?"

"[Amount]."

"Huh. You could have gotten that from any newspaper for free back in January."

He quickly-changed the subject. I'm sure he'll be the hit of his University Office on Monday Morning with such incisive political commentary.

(05-06-2016 10:43 PM)Lucky Wrote:  The absolute madman.

Twitter meltdown in progress:
https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

She's completely obsessed with Trump!

I remember right back at the start of the campaign when he referred to Prince Al Waleed of Saudi Arabia as "goofy" in response to one of his twitter attacks. Goofy! To describe one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world! It seems preposterous to use the word goofy to publicly insult this man. And yet it worked - we haven't heard anything from goofy Al Waleed ever since. Absolute madman.

Edit: I just rechecked. Actually he used the word "dopey." Still, it has the same ring to it.

(05-06-2016 11:09 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 10:43 PM)Lucky Wrote:  The absolute madman.

Twitter meltdown in progress:
https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

She's completely obsessed with Trump!

It doesn't take much to set off the amygdala in a leftist.

Hence the "triggering" phenomenon, be it SJW campus fatties or like minded sitting senators. They're easy to set off like a trip wire.

Maybe a good nickname for the Donald: Triggering Trump

Round 2 of this twitter beatdown.

Someone posted this gem on one of Warren's tweets.

What's the story with Warren and why did he waste time making a name for her?

EDIT: Don't worry, Subversive Hair detected. Progressive Politician then?



'Goofy' is just a polite way of saying 'Dykey'.

(05-06-2016 11:09 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Twitter meltdown in progress:
https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

She's completely obsessed with Trump!

She's trying to use Trump's style of rhetoric against him. Sad!

(05-06-2016 11:27 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 11:09 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Twitter meltdown in progress:
https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

She's completely obsessed with Trump!

She's trying to use Trump's style of rhetoric against him. Sad!

(05-06-2016 11:18 PM)Horus Wrote:  I remember right back at the start of the campaign when he referred to Prince Al Waleed of Saudi Arabia as "goofy" in response to one of his twitter attacks. Goofy! To describe one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world! It seems preposterous to use the word goofy to publicly insult this man. And yet it worked - we haven't heard anything from goofy Al Waleed ever since. Absolute madman.

Edit: I just rechecked. Actually he used the word "dopey." Still, it has the same ring to it.

Thing is - he really is dopey!


   

AB

Elizabeth Warren is faaar left

A lot of Democrats want to see her on Hillary's ticket as VP and she apparently isn't running for re-election in the senate so people speculate she's hoping for the VP too. I'd assume that's why he went after her. Plus it's gotta be fun for him with how easy these lefties get triggered

Elizabeth Warren is a prominent democrat and potential VP candidate against Trump. If Hillary were to go down to an FBI indictment, there's a solid chance that she would be called in as a replacement.

That's what makes her nickname-worthy.

Also, she's reviled on the right because of her hypocrisy and identity politics. At a time where Trump needs the Republican party to pull together (There's some talk about a third party run by disgruntled conservatives, for instance.) punching Elizabeth Warren in her fake Indian face is a good way to show that he's a part of the conservative tribe.

(05-06-2016 09:45 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 08:26 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I wholeheartedly agree with LOZ on purity tests.

Keep in mind, one of the reasons why the right always loses is because they're in many ways more interested in ideological purity than winning. A lot of the "nevertrump" crowd keeps railing against him because "HE'S NOT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE™!" This despite the fact that Trump's tax, healthcare, and corporate inversion plans are basically in line with Conservatism, Inc. has proposed for decades.

But for some reason, he's still not "true conservative™" enough for these "true conservatives™." Many of them seem to want to actively self-sabotage and let the left win AGAIN, because they need someone who is 100% "true conservative ™," as defined by them, of course.

Part of the reason is intellectual snobbery.

I had a lot of respect for Dan Simmons as an author. His debut novel, Song of Kali, shits over most of Stephen King's best work in horror. And with Hyperion he basically wrote the best novel in science fiction that I've ever seen, and won a Hugo back when a Hugo actually meant something.

Simmons took the long road over from liberalism to conservatism, and describes his journey in some detail by reference to each of the Presidents he's seen, back to JFK and right through to just before Obama's election. It was Jimmy Carter who turned him into a conservative. Simmons' novel Flashback really turned him into pariah for the Left, because it was unashamedly honest about the fact Obama was destroying the economy and Islam would be one of the big beneficiaries of that.

But go anywhere near his forums and his line of political discussion, which he heavily and openly moderates against Trump, is to reproduce National Review articles and keep up the line of vitriol that Trump is a buffoon, that he's stupid, that he doesn't know what he's talking about, that he's a racist. All the liberal talking points, spouted by the same guy who writes beautiful, thoughtful, apolitical essays on Shakespeare and who somehow managed to convincingly get John Keats' poetry and persona into a book about artificial intelligences out to destroy mankind.

But the primary thrust of his attacks centres on Trump being stupid. That is, on his intelligence. I can only conclude a big part of this is because Trump, and all the alt-right, are not "classically educated" and did not go to the same English Literature classes that they, the conservatives did. Simmons and his type of critic sit back perpetually and piss and moan that the Left only wins because the American People™ have been dumbed down, but collapse into foaming rage when someone from their ideological area plays by the same rules. It's as if they think it's still cool to bring a knife to a gunfight, that it's fine to get creamed as long as you always fight fair, even if the opponent is breaking every rule. They are enraged by the fact that elections aren't won by substantial, cigar-house discussions of the issues, but by getting more people to vote for you than the other guy -- and they're even more enraged that someone from the Right who isn't them seems a possibility to take the White House. They idolise Lincoln's Presidency while ignoring his fierce nationalism, tariffs, and support of business -- all of which mark Trump. They idolise Lincoln's principles while ignoring the underhand shit that Lincoln had to do in order to get some of those principles and ideas achieved.

This jealousy I think is emblematic of the Conservative (with a capital 'C'): you can't be an outsider. You have to fight by the rules they say you should, even if those rules are outmoded. This sort of asstastic thinking was responsible for the charnel houses of Ypres and the Somme: the idea you should still charge across open fields, like some sort of medieval knight, towards emplaced machine guns.

As a Dan Simmons fan myself you hit the nail on the head.

I cant remember who else made a very good argument against what conservatives have become, but your argument really fleshes out the big problem of jealousy against pragmatic conservative ideas going against high and mighty blowhard conservatism.

Its similar to Rand Paul/Ron Paul being against Trump. 95% their ideas are the same but Trump connects with the common man, so they don't like Trump (I know Rand held to his previous promise to support the nominee).

Another issue might be that since conservatives haven't had any leadership for so long, I mean since Reagan essentially, people like Dan Simmons feel like THEY are the real conservatives, the last ones holding up the good fight, sword in hand. Now a new leader comes along and these people, such as Dan Simmons, they don't want to join into any other group, they were the last man standing and their fight is good and just. They can't mentally get over that BS and join the new war with our new general.

How does this guy have any followers?

Would Rapist Bill Clinton work as a nickname?

(Not now, but in about two months when Bill Clinton's sexual past will be repeatedly discussed, as a weapon against Hillary Clinton.)

Regarding Elizabeth Warren's complaint that Goofy is a weak nickname, "Mr. Trump saves his best nicknames for his stronger, more powerful foes."

(05-07-2016 12:09 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Regarding Elizabeth Warren's complaint that Goofy is a weak nickname, "Mr. Trump saves his best nicknames for his stronger, more powerful foes."

And yet it's still extremely effective. I am a non-American who has never heard of this woman before and knows nothing about her. And yet after hearing Trump's nickname, I already have a negative opinion about her. He didn't even need to explain to me why she's goofy - somehow he's able to convince me with a single word. I can't think of any other person who is able to do that.

(05-07-2016 12:03 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Would Rapist Bill Clinton work as a nickname?

(Not now, but in about two months when Bill Clinton's sexual past will be repeatedly discussed, as a weapon against Hillary Clinton.)

Creepy Bill Clinton.

Particularly as his SMV has plummeted since his days in the White House. No sexual attraction = no hamstering away his sexual misconduct.

^^^ Jesus. Is he sick? It looks like he has AIDS.

(05-06-2016 11:22 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Round 2 of this twitter beatdown.

Someone posted this gem on one of Warren's tweets.

She also made a shit ton of money flipping foreclosed houses.

That's basically what Bain did under Romney, which liberals said was evil. Bain flipped bankrupt/foreclosed businesses.

Jeb Bush's suicide note

(05-06-2016 10:27 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  ^I'm surprised the Republican candidates didn't brand him as Donald the Barbarian. That would have stuck more, but then again that sounds too close to Conan the Barbarian.

I would love to see Trump's head photoshopped to Conan's head in the picture with all the Republican nominee's heads photoshoppped on the corpses at the bottom.

Ask and you shall receive.

Conan is one of my favorite fictional characters and this cover is a classic so this was fun.

I can hear Scott Adams laughing at his monitor somewhere.

Seriously, why is her meme game at Jeb Bush levels? Saving her energy for the general, or are her campaign advisors just that hard up for ideas?