Quote:Donald Trump reneged his claim that if elected president, he won’t take a salary.
Back in 2015, Trump said he is “totally self funding his campaign” and won’t take a cent of the president’s $400,000 annual compensation.
However, on Monday, Trump told The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman he’ll be charging a “nominal $1” fee for his services, an infinitely larger sum than he referenced in the past.
Quote:Bring in a mass of multiculturalism to the USA
Quote:Sign a shitty deal with iran, so that USA cucks will want to bomb them the fuck out in the future.
Quote:Take out Ghadafi
Quote:Bomb the shit out of secular syria
Quote: Build the hatred of muslims so much that it looks foolish not to support Israel against the boogie men in the desert.
Quote:Allow and facilitate Isis to get so large, that a full scale intervention in the middle east is inevitable.
Quote:The Jews are playing chess and Obama knows exactly what he's doing. He isn't anti-israel at all. He's tried to systematically take out all of their regional threats.
They own his bitch ass.
(03-22-2016 11:40 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: The USA is paying 70 FREAKING PERCENT of the Cost of Supporting the Defense of Europe are you freaking kidding me?????
(03-22-2016 10:51 AM)Ocelot Wrote:(03-22-2016 07:12 AM)Going strong Wrote: If Salah Abdeslam, arrested 2 days ago, had been quickly water-boarded, 30 lives would have been saved.
... if Salah had been waterboarded yesterday, he would have revealed the names and places of his accomplices, and the Brussels attacks would have been thwarted!
To not enhance-question terrorists, is a folly, a crime in itself against society!
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I understand it's immensely frustrating seeing lives lost and actions that could have been taken to prevent such a tragedy, but hold on a fucking minute. This guy was a citizen, and you want the government to torture him within a day of his arrest?
I feel a lot of guys here would have a very different perspective on the importance of due process, and how much power the government should have, if they were on the wrong end of a miscarriage of justice, or an abuse of power. My family had their mail gone into and their phones tapped for pissing off the wrong person in England; for all my criticisms of the place, I'm immensely thankful we have some semblance of due process, and the most some over-zealous official can do is authorise a wire tap, not instigate a torture session.
Since Salah Abdeslam was a citizen, and since we can safely assume his hatred for his own country didn't come from "becoming radicalised" via the internet (it came from his parents, and whichever McJihadis mosque his family attended, regardless of what front they put on for the cameras) the question shouldn't be whether discarding his human rights would have prevented this attack, it should be this: why the fuck were his parents, and the entire communities of muslims who hate the country, welcomed in in the first place?
Attacks like these are the aggregate result of decades of stupidity and downright treachery, and are now difficult to prevent, but it can still be done without throwing out the Magna Carta (you'll have to excuse me, I have no idea what the Belgian equivalent is). Stop importing these people. Shut down terrorist-producing mosques. Stop destabilising nations in the middle East, and creating the exact conditions in which organisations like ISIS are able to flourish. But for God's sake, keep a sense of perspective when deciding what the government can or can't do to naturalised citizens.
Terrorists can kill hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of people. Overbearing governments have the capacity to kill millions. It's therefore of a far higher priority to keep governments in check than terrorists, however horrifying scenes like this morning are.

. I want respect and freedom for most people, but, I deny any rights to terrorist leaders and am ready to trade their freedom and physical integrity for whatever gain. It makes me a bad people, no doubt.
? The guy (Abdeslam) was the remaining terrorist leader for Paris attack, and you are saying his presumption of innocence should have been preserved?? Man...(03-22-2016 01:14 PM)C-Note Wrote: For what it's worth, the Washington Post was all over that white Trump supporter who decked the black protester back on March 10, repeatedly mentioning the incident in the days since then.
It has been several days now since the black Air Force NCO punched out the white protestor at that Trump rally. Not one mention about it in the Post. Not ONE.
(03-22-2016 12:15 PM)Requiem Wrote: It's been a while since I have opposed such popular views here, but I feel like it's time for me to say something again. So be prepared, it won't be a nice reading. I'm prepared to get called a leftist SJW:
(03-21-2016 10:08 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote: Christians need allies right now to go against the Muzzzies, and it's OK to have the Jews on our side because at least our societies are more compatible. I think the smartest thing right now is to join together to fight a common threat, and then reassess our relationship afterwards.
You're falling right into the Zionist trap. They make you believe the Muslims were your enemies so you should ally with the Jews in order to kill the Muslims. What is the Israeli part in this? Using some of the military equipment you donate to them and blowing it from afar on some desert-dudes with a rocket launcher. The dirty work will always be done by you. The scheme is simple - Step 1: Let the Gentiles (Christians and Muslims) fight against each others; Step 2: profit. Divide and conquer. That's always been their game and I'm astonished by how well it's still working. Aren't people able to see through the scheme by now?
Israel is the country that's having issues with Muslim countries, not the US/Europe. It simply isn't our problem, although many have been convinced it was.
Yes, I know about Paris. I know about Brussels, San Bernadino, etc. I don't want Muslims to come here for a number of reasons, including the fact that some are likely going to detonate. But this doesn't prove that "we're at war with Islam". There are radicals amongst every people, just some are put into a situation where they don't have much to lose (by constantly bombing their countries and funding terrorists), then provoked and stoked, provided with knowledge/equipment and possibly allowed to operate. If Europe would bomb Israel, kill many of their citizens, occupy them, make their infrastructure and economy collapse, then leave and provide the most angry Jews among them with weapons and money - do you really believe there wouldn't be Jews blowing stuff up?
You know, I've read a couple of times here how Germans can't be let to themselves because they always go to extremes. Regardless of what I think of such statements or the members posting them, let's not get ahead of yourselves and believe you guys are completely immune to this. To me it seems like many here also think in absolutes that don't match reality. I too don't want to have Muslims in Europe or America. But I also don't want the Jews.
Do you even have a plan for your "fight against the Muzzies"?
Here's the deal: Muslims have a problem with Israel. Whether that is justified or not (it is) is a topic for another discussion. Muslims hate the West because we support Israel and blow up their countries, not "because our freedumbs". The more you bomb them, the more radicals you produce (they hate you for ruining their lives and killing their relatives/countrymen AND they don't have anything to lose anymore because you took it all). So you're basically left with only two options: A) genocide every Muslim alive or B) don't bomb their countries anymore, protect your borders (especially until they've calmed down) and leave Israhell to the wolves.
(03-22-2016 11:44 AM)HD668B Wrote:(03-22-2016 10:51 AM)Ocelot Wrote: This guy was a citizen, and you want the government to torture him within a day of his arrest?
Salah Abdeslam, citizen of the Kingdom of Belgium
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Wanna take a bet? If we would have jailed or at least interrogated for more than 24 hours all the people arrested with non-european names, a lot of lives would have been saved.
(03-22-2016 01:31 PM)Irenicus Wrote: Errr...folks...don't we have a thread concerning this terror attack already?
Trump will not be pleased.
And when he is not pleased...coats tend to...disappear.

(03-22-2016 10:29 AM)Irenicus Wrote: So...if I understood correctly...Utah is a winner take all IF one candidate takes 50%+ of the vote?
And AZ is winner take all?
(03-22-2016 12:53 PM)getdownonit Wrote: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...-4222.html
Trump on track to take all 95 New York delegates
Trump 54.5%
Cuck 11.5%
Cuck 9.5%
(03-22-2016 12:15 PM)Requiem Wrote: It's been a while since I have opposed such popular views here, but I feel like it's time for me to say something again. So be prepared, it won't be a nice reading. I'm prepared to get called a leftist SJW:
Muslims hate the West because we support Israel and blow up their countries, not "because our freedumbs". The more you bomb them, the more radicals you produce (they hate you for ruining their lives and killing their relatives/countrymen AND they don't have anything to lose anymore because you took it all).
(03-22-2016 01:38 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:(03-22-2016 12:15 PM)Requiem Wrote: It's been a while since I have opposed such popular views here, but I feel like it's time for me to say something again. So be prepared, it won't be a nice reading. I'm prepared to get called a leftist SJW:
(03-21-2016 10:08 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote: Christians need allies right now to go against the Muzzzies, and it's OK to have the Jews on our side because at least our societies are more compatible. I think the smartest thing right now is to join together to fight a common threat, and then reassess our relationship afterwards.
You're falling right into the Zionist trap. They make you believe the Muslims were your enemies so you should ally with the Jews in order to kill the Muslims. What is the Israeli part in this? Using some of the military equipment you donate to them and blowing it from afar on some desert-dudes with a rocket launcher. The dirty work will always be done by you. The scheme is simple - Step 1: Let the Gentiles (Christians and Muslims) fight against each others; Step 2: profit. Divide and conquer. That's always been their game and I'm astonished by how well it's still working. Aren't people able to see through the scheme by now?
Israel is the country that's having issues with Muslim countries, not the US/Europe. It simply isn't our problem, although many have been convinced it was.
Yes, I know about Paris. I know about Brussels, San Bernadino, etc. I don't want Muslims to come here for a number of reasons, including the fact that some are likely going to detonate. But this doesn't prove that "we're at war with Islam". There are radicals amongst every people, just some are put into a situation where they don't have much to lose (by constantly bombing their countries and funding terrorists), then provoked and stoked, provided with knowledge/equipment and possibly allowed to operate. If Europe would bomb Israel, kill many of their citizens, occupy them, make their infrastructure and economy collapse, then leave and provide the most angry Jews among them with weapons and money - do you really believe there wouldn't be Jews blowing stuff up?
You know, I've read a couple of times here how Germans can't be let to themselves because they always go to extremes. Regardless of what I think of such statements or the members posting them, let's not get ahead of yourselves and believe you guys are completely immune to this. To me it seems like many here also think in absolutes that don't match reality. I too don't want to have Muslims in Europe or America. But I also don't want the Jews.
Do you even have a plan for your "fight against the Muzzies"?
Here's the deal: Muslims have a problem with Israel. Whether that is justified or not (it is) is a topic for another discussion. Muslims hate the West because we support Israel and blow up their countries, not "because our freedumbs". The more you bomb them, the more radicals you produce (they hate you for ruining their lives and killing their relatives/countrymen AND they don't have anything to lose anymore because you took it all). So you're basically left with only two options: A) genocide every Muslim alive or B) don't bomb their countries anymore, protect your borders (especially until they've calmed down) and leave Israhell to the wolves.
I'm no fan of Israel either, but you can't fight a war on all fronts. In a fight with multiple enemies, you take out the most clear and present danger FIRST (Radical Islamic Terrorism), then reassess and continue fighting. So in this situation I think the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" holds true. The real deal is Muslims have a problem with EVERYONE who isn't Muslim; Jews, Christians, Mormons, Aliens, whatever. Maybe we didn't start the problem thousands of years ago, but we did stir the hornet's nest more recently though, and it's the whole world's problem now no matter what. So if we leave Israel to fend for themselves it will only strengthen Islam, and we will face a tougher opponent in the future with less allies. No I don't have battle plans to combat them, nor am I a qualified military expert, but the message i've gotten from their relentless violence upon society is that it's either us or them, and this world might not be big enough anymore for Islam to co-exist peacefully with the rest of the world religions.
(03-22-2016 02:01 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:(03-22-2016 12:15 PM)Requiem Wrote: It's been a while since I have opposed such popular views here, but I feel like it's time for me to say something again. So be prepared, it won't be a nice reading. I'm prepared to get called a leftist SJW:
Muslims hate the West because we support Israel and blow up their countries, not "because our freedumbs". The more you bomb them, the more radicals you produce (they hate you for ruining their lives and killing their relatives/countrymen AND they don't have anything to lose anymore because you took it all).
You're not an SJW Requiem, you're a Ron Paul libertarian. There's a YUGE difference between the two but the fallacy of Ron Paul's "blowback" theory has been soundly debunked, yet you buy into it hook, line, and sinker.
You need to watch the following two videos:
Educate yourself son before you presume to talk at us as if we've never researched Islam, as you clearly have not.
Muslims hate us because the doctrine of Islam ORDERS THEM to hate us, to lie to us, to steal from us, to rape our women, and to kill us by chopping off our heads with dull rusty butter knives. As Dr. Bill Warner proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, the most stark contrast about Islam and EVERY OTHER world religion is that it does not have the Golden Rule. What's the Golden Rule? Glad you asked kid. The Golden Rule is the rule that says, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Pretty simple stuff, n'est-ce pas? But Islam doesn't have that rule. Christianity has it. Judaism has it. Buddhism has it. Hinduism has it. All the religions have it. Except Islam. That is illustrative and important. Now, it is true that, if you repeat this fact often enough, some fancy schmancy Islamic scholar will saunter up to you and say, "Of course Islam has the Golden Rule!" and he will produce some Islamic text in support of his claim. However, what Mr. Slick Islamic Scholar is doing at that moment is called "taqiyya" in the doctrine of Islam. Taqiyya says to Muslims that it is alright to lie to non-Muslims (i.e. the infidels, the "kuffar", which is the plural of "kafir", which is what you and I are) if the lie helps advance the goals of jihad. If you look closely at the text produced by the taqiyya-using Mr. Slick Islamic Scholar, however, you will notice a troubling detail... the text will say "Do unto other Muslims as you would have other Muslims do unto you." This little detail is important because it excludes you and I and all the other kuffar. In fact, there is are special texts that dictate how a good Muslim is to treat the kuffar, and the treatment ain't very nice (refer to my comments above that include reference to dull rusty butter knives).
Muslims don't hate us because we're wealthier and more beautiful than they are, as Ron Paul would have you believe. They hate us because their death cult demands that they hate us. And as for your comment that they hate us because we "blow up their countries"... no one blows up Muslims more than other Muslims. As Dr. Warner says, "Islam is bad for non-Muslims. Islam is bad for Muslims. Islam... is bad."
Give us a break on the Ron Paul autistic libertarianism. We've heard it and we ain't buying it.
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