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Megyn K. is a hot bitch and has the hots for the Donald, and he is obviously infatuated with her as well. It's an incredibly charming long-distance romance playing out over Twitter and Fox News. In the old days they would have made a great romantic screwball comedy about it, the brash older but still vigorous billionaire candidate and the bitchy news anchor falling for each other and sniping at each other in public. Women understand it and find it sexy as hell. Betas and white-knights like Beck are just jealous, LOL.

9K protesters expected to March from Columbus Circle to Trump Tower. Should be an interesting day. Word is they are going to try to storm the Tower. Metal fences have been erected. But who knows what will happen.

LOL! Please let them. I'm sure Trump would be glad to suffer a few million in property damage for a guarantee of winning both the nomination and the general election.

Rally in less than an hour.

(03-18-2016 06:30 PM)Dusty Wrote:  So I go to the dentist today for my six month checkup. The hygienist, a 60 something San Francisco born and raised woman, is making small talk and she mentions Trump. Well I start gearing up for a fight. I very cockily say "well I like Trump!" She goes "me too!!" She proceeds to talk my ear off throughout the appointment about how great Trump is and how he is what America needs. She also says this is the most exciting election in her life time.

I said I meet a surprising number of people in SF who like Trump. She says "me too! We don't advertise it because the anti Trump people are so intolerant, but I talk to a lot of people in SF, many life time democrats , who are going to vote for Trump."

She also said the press is full of BS about Trump and most people see right through it. She mentioned the Chicago riots and how it was Bernie and Hillary people doing it, yet they blamed it on Trump which is infuriating. I said yeah, that's why Trump outperformed in Illinois.

Same thing happened to me when I went in for a minor procedure on my foot. It came up that I was an accountant and the nurse started asking me about Trumps tax plan. I stayed pretty neutral because the doctor wasn't talking about politics, and I don't want to accidentally piss anyone off who's about to cut me open. Also because all presidential candidates tax plans' are bullshit. The president doesn't write tax policy congress does. The president can only put out suggestions, and right now the congress remains in gridlock; so an overhaul to our tax system will never get though anyway.

(03-19-2016 10:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 09:32 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I don't want this forum to be like a funeral parlor in mid November just because the most likely outcome actually comes to pass.

But I do want it to be like a travel agency, since Trump not winning the general election means that the country (and in turn Europe) is permanently fucked and everyone should start being serious about exit strategies.

Friend, be honest. If Hillary wins, there will be NOWHERE TO GO. Feminism, cultural Marxism, and other leftist cancers will spread to all traditional enclaves of the world. "Poosy paradises" will cease to exist. This election is far more than just the future of the US and Europe. It's about the future of the entire world. It's either nationalism or globalism, and if Hillary wins globalism will be the supreme victor.

(03-19-2016 10:13 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Enigma, no one is "planning" anything. They have no power to "plan" it. I've read all the reports and articles, and all they amount to is some donors and pols getting together and venting about Trump, because they simply can't believe that someone who is so "vulgar", "unfit", and not part of the club will actually be the nominee. Their venting has added up to nothing so far and that will remain the case going forward. As far as Kasich goes, his presence in the race is helping Trump by any reasonable analysis, and he is there despite the fact that the #NeverTrump forces desperately want him to leave. They can't even control one goofy Ohio governor and son-of-a-mailman, LOL.

Romney campaigned for Kasich in Ohio.

If the weren't "planning" a contested convention, they wouldn't be pushing two candidates that have basically zero chance of actually securing the majority.

Quote:Realistically, all they can do at this point is support Cruz and hope that he strongly outperforms from here on in and that Trump badly underperforms. Then, and only then -- if Trump fades down the stretch and is well short of a majority and has only a slim lead over Cruz -- will there be a contested convention. Otherwise, it won't happen. And of course many of these pols hate Cruz so much that they can't even bring themselves to support him (and it's not clear their support would help him in any case).

You claimed the chance of a brokered convention is a "fantasy". Yet you just laid out a possible scenario where it would happen.

Of course there will be a contested convention if both Trump and Cruz are well short of the majority. A contested convention happens automatically when a candidate does not reach the majority. It is not a choice. The question is how the delegates place their votes once it happens.

Again, I never said the nomination WILL be stolen from Trump. But it is definitely possible.

The only fantasy here is believing that our utterly corrupt politicians can actually be counted on to do the right thing.

(03-19-2016 10:48 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Megyn K. is a hot bitch and has the hots for the Donald, and he is obviously infatuated with her as well. It's an incredibly charming long-distance romance playing out over Twitter and Fox News. In the old days they would have made a great romantic screwball comedy about it, the brash older but still vigorous billionaire candidate and the bitchy news anchor falling for each other and sniping at each other in public. Women understand it and find it sexy as hell. Betas and white-knights like Beck are just jealous, LOL.

Spot on. They are both playing up the drama for ratings. You know she loves it because at least once a debate/interview/show an "I just felt tingles" smile sneaks out and she can't hide it.

What is so funny is how many WKs and journalists believe the feud is real and that Trump is an asshole misogynist. They also think Trump is afraid of her and that is why he is skips debates.

Lizard is as always, the very optimistic one. I have a more cautious optimism that they won't be able to get away with it, but Roger Stone and others who have been around definitely think they're planning it and I am as well.

They know it will never go over well and could destroy the GOP. The problem is that they don't care. They are not rational in that sense. They are not going to so easily have their racket broken up.

Some will eventually accept reality, but many others will not.

(03-19-2016 10:59 AM)memcpy Wrote:  9K protesters expected to March from Columbus Circle to Trump Tower. Should be an interesting day. Word is they are going to try to storm the Tower. Metal fences have been erected. But who knows what will happen.

It's happening in Arizona too I believe. I heard it's being coordinated with antifa faggots in London financed by the same crowd we all know and love.

If I'm feeling it, maybe I'll go do some first-hand reporting.

Enigma, here is what I wrote in my original post:

(03-19-2016 09:32 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  There will be no contested convention if Trump gets anywhere near to half the delegates -- he does not have to actually cross the magical threshold of 1237. The party will not deny the nomination to a candidate who has a commanding delegate lead and close to a majority of delegates (let alone an outright majority). It simply will not happen, and all discussion of it is a fantasy.

The only scenario under which there will be a contested convention is one in which the Trump campaign severely underperforms from here on in. If Cruz wins a clear majority of the still outstanding states and delegates, and Trump fails to wins some of the states he is "supposed" to win, then we could have a situation in which Trump still has a delegate lead by convention time, but he is well short of a majority and has performed poorly down the stretch. In this case -- and only in this case -- there will be a multiple ballot convention vote and then Trump will not be the nominee (even if he has a nominal lead in delegates). Cruz would be the most likely nominee if this were to happen, but you could even have wild cards like Kasich or Paul Ryan (very unlikely) win in later rounds.

In other words, what is a fantasy is the idea that there will be a contested convention if Trump has a commanding lead and is very close to having a majority of delegates. In that case, the party will fall in line and vote him in. If he is well short of a majority, then there will be a contested convention and he will not be nominated. Trump being well short of a majority would mean that his campaign faded down the stretch. None of that requires any "planning", except for the obvious plan to keep attacking Trump as hard as possible and hope that some of the attacks stick with the voters. What will NOT happen is "dirty tricks" with changing convention rules etc to deny Trump the nomination if he has a clear and commanding lead.

As far as Kasich goes, of course Romney and the #NeverTrump forces campaigned for him in Ohio, but it's in their interests for him to drop out after Ohio. Every analysis shows Trump getting more delegates from here on in with Kasich in the race than without him because most of the remaining states are winner take all or winner take most which amounts to the same thing. Even this past Tuesday it was arguably the case that without Kasich and Rubio in the race Trump might have done worse -- he would have won Ohio, but he would have probably lost Missouri and North Carolina, and he would have done less well in Illinois. And this is with the special case of Ohio where Kasich is the governor. In fact, Kasich's presence is so beneficial to Trump at this point that there is a lot of speculation by irate #NeverTrump fanatics that Kasich and Trump are in collusion or have a deal for K. getting the VP slot (which I don't believe is the case, either).

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(03-19-2016 11:33 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Lizard is as always, the very optimistic one.

Hardly. I would be "very optimistic" if I believed, like some guys who let wishful thinking get in the way of reality, that Trump is likely to beat the HAG and become the next president. In fact, I think that this is possible but unlikely, and I worry about guys getting their expectations too high and being crushed and demoralized in November.

But to believe that most of the talk about a contested convention where the nomination is "stolen" from Trump is just talk is not "very optimistic", it's simple realism. There is no one with the power to coordinate such a move, and no one will attempt to blatantly subvert the will of the voters in such a way. Again, assuming that Trump has a clear and commanding lead heading into the convention, let alone an outright majority of pledged delegates.

(03-18-2016 10:55 PM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  I never really followed Infowars, how much reach does this Alex Jones have exactly? What's the viewership like? How reliable is it as a source of information? I've always been put off by his clickbaity style of delivering his message and peddling of questionable products. He spends 10 minutes in this video going off about how Donald Trump is the real deal, that he's deeply informed about the globalist agenda, and that Trump has a plan and truly does want to the man that saves America. Followed of course by a 2 minute bullshit infomercial.

Alex Jones used to be fringe but his legitimacy has really taken off recently, particularly since Matt Drudge and Trump went on his show. Even Louis Farrakhan has decided to get in on the Infowars action, although I will admit that Jones' interview of Farrakhan was pretty softball. You're right that his shows are chock full of cheezy infomercials, but you have to consider the fact that Jones picked fights with SJW's long before picking fights with them was cool, so I'm certain that making money has always been difficult for Jones. Check out this showdown with Piers Morgan from early 2013:





Notice how Morgan chose to seat Jones without a desk. This was because Jones has a belly. It's a subtle trick when you compare it to how Morgan interviewed Ben Shapiro on precisely the same subject:





If you watch those two interviews and contrast them, you can see the difference between a true anti-establishment journalist (Jones), and a guy who just plays one on TV (Shapiro). Jones is aware of the game and the dirty tricks being used against him and he chucks the niceties and politeness out the window and goes hard at Morgan with full ferocity. Shapiro sort of plays verbal jujitsu with Morgan, letting Morgan bully him around before upsetting Morgan's apple cart with quick precocious verbal jabs. For my money, Jones' approach is far more appropriate and effective. Shapiro is good at promoting Shapiro, but Jones is actually effective at destroying Morgan. And that's why Jones is a (newfound) Trump supporter, and Shapiro is just a useless cuck.

The media, especially CNN has to cover this election in a "stay tuned for next episode" way. This talk of contested convention is just media bait mixed with pundit end of career scare, it will not happen even when they ask party leaders they dodge the question and say that it will be the person who is winning but the media grabs one sentence from their interview and its suddenly a headline. Leftist media outlets are piling on because now they are actually scared of Trump. He changes the electoral map and knows how to handle their "racist, misogynist, bigot, fascist" missiles. They are intentionally avoiding covering Cruz's anti-gay efforts in order to keep the focus on Donald Trump. Unfortunately its not going to work for them, Donald trump will be the nominee even if he underperforms in some states, the next primaries are stacked in his favor.

If he wins, AZ - WI - NY - PE - IN - NJ, CA, where he is very much ahead, he could lose all over the other ones(he won't) and its still over.

(03-19-2016 11:38 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 11:33 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Lizard is as always, the very optimistic one.

Hardly.

That wasn't a criticism.

It's easy for us to think the world is collapsing constantly. A bit of a counter-tone is needed.

I still have a generally good feeling going into November. We've already begun to see how terrible of a candidate the sea hag is with her first attacks on Trump.

Only reason she has such a good chance is because sadly, the Democrats have imported tens of millions of cheap votes over the past 50 years.

(03-19-2016 11:11 AM)iop890 Wrote:  Rally in less than an hour.

lmao, AZ SJW protesters blocking the road to the rally

Protesters now blocking the road to the Arizona Trump rally today :

Heading down to Trump Tower. Let's see what I can find, if anything.

If any of the RVF NYC crew wants to come, you know how to reach me.

(03-19-2016 11:56 AM)memcpy Wrote:  Protesters now blocking the road to the Arizona Trump rally today :

Prolly illegals.

^Yeah I just saw it.

Thanks, SJWs, you're just about to secure Trump the nomination.

Trump gained support after Chicago even though it directly affected only those who already supported him.
This time they ruin the day for everybody. People will be pissed. Trump's gonna win BIG.

There is nothing I hate more than people getting on my road while I'm driving.

(03-19-2016 10:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 09:32 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I don't want this forum to be like a funeral parlor in mid November just because the most likely outcome actually comes to pass.

But I do want it to be like a travel agency, since Trump not winning the general election means that the country (and in turn Europe) is permanently fucked and everyone should start being serious about exit strategies.

RVF Island is where I'm going

(03-19-2016 11:38 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  In other words, what is a fantasy is the idea that there will be a contested convention if Trump has a commanding lead and is very close to having a majority of delegates.

If Trump falls just short of the majority, there will be a contested convention.

If Trump falls well short of the majority, there will be a contested convention.

That is how contested conventions work.

Quote:In that case, the party will fall in line and vote him in. If he is well short of a majority, then there will be a contested convention and he will not be nominated. Trump being well short of a majority would mean that his campaign faded down the stretch. None of that requires any "planning", except for the obvious plan to keep attacking Trump as hard as possible and hope that some of the attacks stick with the voters. What will NOT happen is "dirty tricks" with changing convention rules etc to deny Trump the nomination if he has a clear and commanding lead.

They don't have to change the rules. If he does not have 1237 delegates, the convention is contested and it comes down to a vote of delegates.

Quote:Hardly. I would be "very optimistic" if I believed, like some guys who let wishful thinking get in the way of reality, that Trump is likely to beat the HAG and become the next president. In fact, I think that this is possible but unlikely, and I worry about guys getting their expectations too high and being crushed and demoralized in November.

Except there are many actual statistics that suggest that Trump is likely to beat Hillary.

I guess statistics aren't "reality" now. Only your opinion. Everyone else's opinion is just web chatter and whining.

Trump has been surrounding himself with beautiful women his entire life, top tier women like Misses, you know the 9.5, saying he is somehow obsessed with a 5'6 tall News Anchor that look just like your average blonde woman on the subway is ridiculous.


Do we have to make people remember how does his wife looks?


If there is a man who cannot be obsessed with a woman is Trump.