Post: #1

He nails a lot of things what we say on this forum about Feminism and the #MGTOW movement. I think this guy actually reads this forum or some other PUA/MRA forum because he threw the terms "Betas" and "SMV" around a lot in the video.

Check it out here.

Post: #2

Fuck me his voice is annoying.

Post: #3

(05-18-2015 01:28 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  I think this guy actually reads this forum or some other PUA/MRA forum because he threw the terms "Betas" and "SMV" around a lot in the video.

Yeah he's aware of the Red Pill community. He had a video on the Sexodus which was referring to Nero's two part series, which makes reference to RooshV. InfoWars has also picked up an ROK article.

Post: #4

(05-18-2015 01:28 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  He nails a lot of things what we say on this forum about Feminism and the #MGTOW movement. I think this guy actually reads this forum or some other PUA/MRA forum because he threw the terms "Betas" and "SMV" around a lot in the video.

Check it out here.

His vocal style is very off-putting. I also dislike how he frequently cuts this video here. I really enjoy seeing a focused and authentic talk discussing these issues in a natural manner (e.g. Roosh's videos) rather than a produced, scattered, punchy name-drop version as seen here.

Post: #5

That isn't "some youtuber" thats the channel for the alex jones/info wars radio show. That guy is one of the regular 'reporters' they use, thats why he's got that odd 'Radio DJ' cadence. This is the same show that picked up Quintus's ROK article the other day.

That is a big audience to be dropping 'red pill' type anti femenism on. Between this video and picking up the ROK article...and the shoutout to at the end to Roosh and Quintus Mr. Watson is definitely a reader of ROK, if not this forum. That puts the plausibility of a Quintus/Roosh interview on that platform pretty realistic.

That show claims to have a bigger audience than Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh combined.

Post: #6

One of you (Roosh/Quint) should shoot an email his way and proposition.

Post: #7

He has a good video on fat shaming too. Good delivery.

Post: #8

(05-18-2015 01:34 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Fuck me his voice is annoying.

I actually thought his voice and tonality sounded kind of cool. Sort of like that guy that did lifestyles of the rich and famous.

Post: #9

Paul Joseph Watson has been lashing out against feminists for while. He also has a lot of twitter followers.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/...3562533888



Because the mainstream is so infested with SJWs, the reverse is happening in the youtube world. The difference is: the main stream has an entire platform and marketing machine behind their message. However their message is so weak that even with their x100 budget, these multichannels are still gaining in popularity.

On the one hand you have a comedy show that employs 176 people(writers/staff/production crew/promoters etc) that gets X ratings. On the other side you have a guy and a microphone selling out show after show. Once the number of people following that one guy = the followers of that comedy show then the guy with the mike is then offered his own show, in one form or another he will make it. That one guy must be saying something that resonates with a lot of people to attract such a large audience with virtually no crew or staff while the comedy show with a large crew and large platform must be so out of touch that all the money in the world will not save it.

Post: #10

I agree, this is a big opportunity for roosh to expand his reach. According to quantcast.com, infowars.com is currently getting 5.6 million unique visitors per month.

Post: #11

This exposure shows that neomasculinity does serve a need.

MGTOW is designed for quitters/celibates, providing almost no answers for men who want normal relationships with women.
MRA is designed for older men who already got burned badly by the system. It's dependent on state approval to succeed.
PUA is a primarily commercial enterprise that involves a heavy transfer of money from sex starved males to marketers and attempts to treat sex as existing in a cultural vacuum while promoting unsustainable behaviors.

Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can't exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.

Full write up: http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-neomasculinity

Post: #12

(05-18-2015 03:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  This exposure shows that neomasculinity does serve a need.

MGTOW is designed for quitters/celibates, providing almost no answers for men who want normal relationships with women.
MRA is designed for older men who already got burned badly by the system. It's dependent on state approval to succeed.
PUA is a primarily commercial enterprise that involves a heavy transfer of money from sex starved males to marketers and attempts to treat sex as existing in a cultural vacuum while promoting unsustainable behaviors.

Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can't exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.

Full write up: http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-neomasculinity

Spot on.

I first learned about something like game in 2009. This was I suppose the time of the tail end of Game 1.0 pioneered by the likes of Mystery and Neil Strauss. I could definitely see that the core fundamentals were sound, but a lot of it just seemed silly...empty...void of meaning. I wanted to get into it, but never really developed the discipline, fortitude, and zeal to do it.

Fast forward to 2013 and I found Return of Kings. I could see that the guys there were like me - astute cultural observers and trying to find something more in life, all the while enjoying good sexual relationships. They were trying to be the best they could be, developing iron discipline while attempting to do something for the betterment of the world all the while navigating its degeneracy.

I never looked back.

We are going to continue marching forward. Because what our movement is saying is right. We are providing the answers for those like Odysseus wandering the wilderness of Poseidon's sea on their rafts. Neomasculinity is the direction back home. And we are going to take our world back.

Post: #13

Yes - an interview by Paul Joseph Watson with Roosh would be good - there won't be any cutting of footage or scripted narrative. Neomasculinity is in line with the alternative crowd - actually some may profit from it never having been exposed to Game - a healthy perception of Game beyond only PUA concentration on getting laid.

Post: #14

Annoying voice or no, it's a good video that summarizes many great points on neomasculinity and the state of the dating culture today. Very informative.

Post: #15

(05-18-2015 02:51 PM)8ball Wrote:  Paul Joseph Watson has been lashing out against feminists for while. He also has a lot of twitter followers.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/...3562533888



Because the mainstream is so infested with SJWs, the reverse is happening in the youtube world. The difference is: the main stream has an entire platform and marketing machine behind their message. However their message is so weak that even with their x100 budget, these multichannels are still gaining in popularity.

On the one hand you have a comedy show that employs 176 people(writers/staff/production crew/promoters etc) that gets X ratings. On the other side you have a guy and a microphone selling out show after show. Once the number of people following that one guy = the followers of that comedy show then the guy with the mike is then offered his own show, in one form or another he will make it. That one guy must be saying something that resonates with a lot of people to attract such a large audience with virtually no crew or staff while the comedy show with a large crew and large platform must be so out of touch that all the money in the world will not save it.

You're right; this video on InfoWars both he and Crowder attack feminism and I had no idea that Crowder was anti-feminism, other than he's a typical conservative so is a little more skeptical of them. They blast feminism and the fat pride movement.

Post: #16

(05-18-2015 03:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  This exposure shows that neomasculinity does serve a need.

MGTOW is designed for quitters/celibates, providing almost no answers for men who want normal relationships with women.
MRA is designed for older men who already got burned badly by the system. It's dependent on state approval to succeed.
PUA is a primarily commercial enterprise that involves a heavy transfer of money from sex starved males to marketers and attempts to treat sex as existing in a cultural vacuum while promoting unsustainable behaviors.

Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can't exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.

Full write up: http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-neomasculinity

Roosh,

I'd love to see this analysis of the various branches of the Manosphere (vis-a-vis Neomasculinity) fleshed out more. It'd make for a good RoK article and would get lots of traction in the Manosphere.

Post: #17

It was through Infowars, I first saw that the oligarchy supported feminism to tax the other half of the population.

Now two working parents cannot afford what one parent could afford for a large family 50 years ago.

Post: #18

(05-19-2015 12:42 PM)N°6 Wrote:  Now two working parents cannot afford what one parent could afford for a large family 50 years ago.

One of the authors at ROK wrote this article, and more than anything, it explains why Americans lived in such a great reality, though it overlooks a few items: we were competing against socialistic empires, the Soviet Union and China, who basically made their people poorer and poorer (the number of Soviets and Chinese who starved to death versus Americans over the same time who starved to death), and post World War II, everyone owed us money. We were the creditor nation (like China is now).

Both of those have changed and others in the world, like the Chinese and Vietnamese, want our standard of living and, unlike the modern petulant American, are willing to work for it.

Capitalism won. But capitalism rewards the most competitive person and that isn't Americans anymore; Americans gave their kids trophies when they didn't win, only competed (how socialistic is that!). A game analogy would be what America experienced in its past is like a player competing for a 10 with a guy who's castrated; the dude doesn't stand a chance. Socialism is economic castration.

Post: #19

(05-19-2015 12:42 PM)N°6 Wrote:  It was through Infowars, I first saw that the oligarchy supported feminism to tax the other half of the population.

Now two working parents cannot afford what one parent could afford for a large family 50 years ago.

I went after this on another thread. Are you sure about that statement? The first house I owned was built in 1947 and was 1200 sq feet with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms no garage and a basement. A family was raised there. Today those are 'starter' homes running about $130k here but people feel like they need $210k homes.

In 1950 did a family have 2 cars and a jet ski or boat? No, likely just 1 car. How many computers, internet lines and cell phones did they have? How many airline flights did they take per year? How many wives had fake tits and every kid had braces?

A family today, in america that lives in a small house, with one car, one internet connection and one phone line can live on 35 to 40k, and thats one income.

The problem isn't just depressed wages, its vastly increased precieved needs.

Post: #20

(05-19-2015 06:31 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I went after this on another thread. Are you sure about that statement? The first house I owned was built in 1947 and was 1200 sq feet with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms no garage and a basement. A family was raised there. Today those are 'starter' homes running about $130k here but people feel like they need $210k homes.

In 1950 did a family have 2 cars and a jet ski or boat? No, likely just 1 car. How many computers, internet lines and cell phones did they have? How many airline flights did they take per year? How many wives had fake tits and every kid had braces?

A family today, in america that lives in a small house, with one car, one internet connection and one phone line can live on 35 to 40k, and thats one income.

The problem isn't just depressed wages, its vastly increased precieved needs.

The wages are vastly decreased - in the end 1960s/70s due to high wages created by little competition, little immigration (up until 1970s massive majority of US population growth came through fertility) and strong unions you could start out as a high-school dropout at a factory and make the equivalent of purchasing power of a mid-management position making 40.000$ now. Actually your purchasing power in terms of housing, education, healthcare would have been much higher than that. The demand you refer to is more connected with the general standard of living and technology.

Real income has been in decline since the 1970s for the US. For most of Western Europe it has been since the early 1990s.

Besides - the video is more on the statements possibly made by Nick Rockefeller. We have no proof that it happens, but honestly it all makes perfect sense and would not surprise me one bit.

Post: #21

(05-19-2015 06:31 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I went after this on another thread. Are you sure about that statement? The first house I owned was built in 1947 and was 1200 sq feet with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms no garage and a basement. A family was raised there. Today those are 'starter' homes running about $130k here but people feel like they need $210k homes.

In 1950 did a family have 2 cars and a jet ski or boat? No, likely just 1 car. How many computers, internet lines and cell phones did they have? How many airline flights did they take per year? How many wives had fake tits and every kid had braces?

A family today, in america that lives in a small house, with one car, one internet connection and one phone line can live on 35 to 40k, and thats one income.

The problem isn't just depressed wages, its vastly increased precieved needs.

And as I pointed out in that other thread, you're so out of touch with the average American that it borders on absurd.

Quote:Jet skis/ boats

http://dnr.maryland.gov/boating/pdfs/201...oating.pdf

"Boat ownership was down slightly from 22.6 million
owners in 2011 to 21.2 million in 2012, but an additional
14.4 million Americans were considering boat ownership
in 2012. [...] The percentage of boat owners who own a kayak or canoe
increased significantly from 12.1 percent in 2011 to 20.7
percent in 2012."

That's roughly 6% of the population owning boats, with 20% of that being kayaks or canoes.

Quote:Fake tits

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/dear-...-implants/

This estimates the percentage of women with breast implants at around 4%. And many of those are likely sugar babies who got sponsored or escorts/strippers/Instagram sluts who bought them as an investment.

Quote:How many airline flights did they take per year?

From the US Travel association: https://www.ustravel.org/news/press-kit/...statistics

"In 2012, 33 percent of domestic business trips included air travel compared to just 11 percent of leisure trips."

11% of vacations included airfare. That's only 11% of the people that traveled.

http://www.travelweekly.com/travel-news/...recovered/

In 2013, only 58% of American adults traveled.

Also considering that part of those 11% of trips taken by plane were likely repeats by the same people, that leaves us with well less than 5% of Americans taking a plane for leisure.

And of those 5%, 75% of them are 35 or older and 75% traveled without kids. You have maybe 1 or 2% of people taking a family vacation by plane.

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Notice a theme here? Less than 5% of people traveling by plane, less than 5% of people owning a boat, less than 5% of women with breast implants. Coincidentally, that's the same percentage of Americans that would be considered upper class.

Yet this is your picture of the average American. If only everyone just stopped buying jet skis and getting breast implants, we'd all just be fine.

Post: #22

(05-18-2015 03:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  This exposure shows that neomasculinity does serve a need.

MGTOW is designed for quitters/celibates, providing almost no answers for men who want normal relationships with women.
MRA is designed for older men who already got burned badly by the system. It's dependent on state approval to succeed.
PUA is a primarily commercial enterprise that involves a heavy transfer of money from sex starved males to marketers and attempts to treat sex as existing in a cultural vacuum while promoting unsustainable behaviors.

Game is a collection of tactics/rules/behaviors that work, but it can't exist in isolation without an ideology that complements it and gives men guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which even touches on the political nature of societies.

Full write up: http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-neomasculinity

Wow.

Not to be a kiss ass but very well stated Roosh.

I just can't get on board with a lot of the "woe is me/men" garbage you find in the MRA/MGTOW crowd, although I do like parts of the message.

The game NEVER ends quite honestly even in relationships/marriage etc. so I think the opportunities to learn and master it will keep guys busy the rest of their lives. I'm still learning every day. That fact alone should keep guys keepin' on.

Post: #23

Trolling people to support a "male privilege tax"

Post: #24

(05-18-2015 01:34 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Fuck me his voice is annoying.

At least its not squeeky. He has a well spoken, at my guess British somewhere in the north of the east Midlands accent. EDIT- He's from Sheffield. That is a Sheffield accent, former British steel town!

His accent would go down well with the Ladies in the USA!