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I am making a presentation in my university about a topic loosely defined as "development of philosophical thought in the age of internet"

I will focus on two pairs of contradicting ideologies:

Trans-humanism vs Paleoconservatism
and
Feminism vs Neomasculinity.

The agenda is to present Neomasculinity as an emerging ideology native to internet and opposing pre internet idea like feminism.

However since neomasculinity is very small and has barely left the small confines of this forum and RoK site it still lacks many things - like a symbol.

For this reason I ask one thing of you - help me find a good graphical symbol of neomasculinity.

I could use a simple Mars sign like this:
   

But then again feminism has us beat with a Venus sign with a fist attached.
   

So I wonder if someone with graphical skills can come up with a nice logo, could be Mars sign based, could be not that would represent neomasculine ideology.

The roosh pic doesn't count, the ideology must have a more universal symbol then it's founder if it is to grow and prosper.

You have one week time.

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Please tell me this isn't an American university you're giving this presentation in.

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(05-06-2017 04:29 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Please tell me this isn't an American university you're giving this presentation in.

It isn't.

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Incidentally, I suggested a potential symbol for neomasculinity in my post on Egalitarianism.

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There's an image I've seen. Not so much a symbol. Might've been in the Trigger Meme thread of a family.

The mother and daughter are washing dishes. Both have massive smiles on their faces whilst the father are son are playing a mentally challenging board game, such as chess.

It's a beautiful image of a nuclear family each playing to and developing their strengths for the future.

Something similar to this



Note how happy everyone looks. How relaxed they look and how natural they look.

The only real symbols we can have is images similar to as above. It hits at the core of the feminists problems. There lack of a stable family unit during their formative years. See they see what they never had and believe no one should have it.

The father is respected an in control
The rest of the family are obedient listening to their hero

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Bet once a symbol is adopted, it gets labeled a white supremecy symbol.

Post: #7

How about this?
Mixed the alchemy purification symbol with the mars one as to pin point the "refining" or "cleansing" of the masculine condition, or something along those lines...

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I like HSLD's symbol more. Simple, not complicated, and easy to draw.

We're not all equal is the easiest meaning to convey and drives home a good point.

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(05-06-2017 04:35 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  Incidentally, I suggested a potential symbol for neomasculinity in my post on Egalitarianism.

This is definitely a good symbol, simple and aggressive. I would love to see it in use for every movement that is anti forced egalitarianism.

The only problem that it is negative, reactionary. The primary symbol of neomasculinity should be something that is it's own thing not a denial of something else. But this could definitely be one of the side symbols used.

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Two circles touching next to each other with little irregularly spaced lines coming out.

Like two cartoon suns touching next to each other. Have to space the irregularly lines apart just enough to troll

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(05-07-2017 01:56 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 04:35 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  Incidentally, I suggested a potential symbol for neomasculinity in my post on Egalitarianism.

This is definitely a good symbol, simple and aggressive. I would love to see it in use for every movement that is anti forced egalitarianism.

The only problem that it is negative, reactionary. The primary symbol of neomasculinity should be something that is it's own thing not a denial of something else. But this could definitely be one of the side symbols used.

Perhaps the symbol for equivalence, since the general thrust is not about male/female inequality, but rather complementarianism?

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

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Inequality is ambiguous, since it could mean that the female is greater than the male. Therefore, for more precision:



The sexes don't just complement each other. The man in a relationship is actually supposed to be superior. That's why he's the leader and she's the follower.

Also, bros before hos.

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(05-07-2017 01:56 AM)Mage Wrote:  This is definitely a good symbol, simple and aggressive. I would love to see it in use for every movement that is anti forced egalitarianism.

The only problem that it is negative, reactionary. The primary symbol of neomasculinity should be something that is it's own thing not a denial of something else. But this could definitely be one of the side symbols used.

What is neomasculinity if not a reactionary movement? Its very existence is owed to ending the destructiveness of something that came before it.

(05-07-2017 02:24 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Perhaps the symbol for equivalence, since the general thrust is not about male/female inequality, but rather complementarianism?

The inequality symbol is more readily recognized and comprehensible, and I would dispute your contention that "the general thrust is not about male/female inequality." On the contrary - the inherently different nature of men and women is at the very core of everything that defines neomasculinity. It is the central basis upon which everything else is built.

(05-07-2017 03:00 AM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  Inequality is ambiguous, since it could mean that the female is greater than the male. Therefore, for more precision:



The sexes don't just complement each other. The man in a relationship is actually supposed to be superior. That's why he's the leader and she's the follower.

Also, bros before hos.

Leadership does not make superiority inherent. Nor should it. Neomasculinity does not say that either women or men are superior to one another - merely that they are different, and thus unequal. On top of which, the symbol would need to be one unitary design or it loses symbolic effect.

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You could also use the triangle as it represents the male principle in the hexagon/seal of Solomon/David's star and fire in the Greek elements.

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The online image editor I used for this was pretty bad, but someone with more skill could do a better job of this idea:

   

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This is all I could come up with (couldn't find a way to smooth out the strike corners on the symbol from HSLD)

Post: #17

How about we just Thors hammer?

Seriously, we shouldnt be using the mars symbol at all as I dont really want to appropriate the whole Mars-Venus things as that stuff is all baggage.

Neomasculinity should be about confidence, strength, truth, power etc which are independant masculine QUALITIES not the idea "we are men and better than women, feminism etc" and we shouldnt be paying homage to existing notions.

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8=====D

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I apologize for my shitty drawing/design skills.

When I started thinking about a logo for Neomasculinity this was the first idea which surfaced within my mind.

To use the Mars Symbol to make a Sword and Shield out of it.

Because you guys taught me on how to be courageous to conquer what I want in life – be it women, money, lifestyle, freedom…

And you guys taught me to have balls big enough in order to stand right before those who wish to take away what is mine and stare them right into their eyes and say: ‘No.’

You guys taught what it means to be a Man: to be prepared to die in order to obtain what I want the most and to be prepared to sacrifice myself in order to protect what I love the most.

To be a Sword and Shield.

At the same time.

Post: #21

Simplified version thereof. You don't have to be bible folk to empathise with Samson. Betrayed by a bitch who stole his power, he gets his revenge in the end, even if it kills him.

Beating people to death with the jawbone of a donkey also has certain significant American political undertones, deciphered in any number of ways.

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Does anybody ever really write or talk about neomasculinity anymore?

It felt like a very interesting idea that unfortunately never took off. I can't remember the last time I've seen anything written from a neomasculine perspective, or anybody who describes themselves as a neomasculine writer. Even Roosh doesn't seem to use the term much anymore. (He's never referred to it in his newsletter writings, for instance)

I don't know if it's just that the age of ideology writing has passed in this portion of the internet, or if everybody who was writing about it switched to writing about Trump instead. But it doesn't seem like anything is going on with it.

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Data sheet maps