Post: #51

(07-10-2015 11:01 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  The semantics in regards to ranking the hotness of chicks is making me feel a bit dyslexic.....

The combination of Boner test and youth (18 to 24s) is what it all boils down to, at least when you are a man over 30.
Everything else is semantics, as you say, and it is usually men under 30, who expend too much time debating this subject; like it were a sword fight.

Post: #52

(07-10-2015 07:02 PM)Buddha Wrote:  

(07-10-2015 04:51 PM)Vickers Wrote:  A 9.5?

That's a bit odd.

You said girls in Belgrade are better looking than in Budapest.

I've never been to Belgrade but i saw plenty of this shape and size of girls in Budapest.

She is definitely good looking but i wouldn't rate her THAT outstanding.

In my book she is an 8 or 8.5.

Face 8
Body 8.5

That's just my thought,maybe other members could chime in...

I was simply asked how I would rate her so I gave an honest assessment. Whether other guys would rate her lower it is up to their own personal tastes.

Whatever rocks your boat. For my personal standards she is a 9.5. Your standards must be way higher than mine so I understand where you are coming from.



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I appreciate that.

Just shared my two cents,considering your rating i saw a lot of 9.5s in Budapest.

However it seems like personal experiences can differ that much.

You dated more serbian girls than me.

Post: #53

Thanks for your insight. She is Hungarian. As for Serbian girls, my knowledge & impressions will evolve as I spend more time in the city and explore different aspects of game (I only have done Day Game here so far)

Everyone interprets the city in different ways and there are guys who have spent more time in the city than me. PainPositive, who I have worked closely with will be able to offer newer insights into the sexual dynamics of the city for example because he does have more Belgrade experience than me.

Anyways, last night I pulled a girl (20 years old, lives with her parents) home from a 2nd date after an 1 hour of drinks & chat at a nearby outdoor bar. (she only drank Cola) Led her straight to the livingroom couch where I sat her down on my lap and started to listen to music on the computer.

Got to make-out where I was able to rub her pussy and fondle her boobs (still over her clothes). Managed to get her to my bedroom where she clammed up a bit. When I laid her on my bed she said affirmatively that she doesn't fuck on 2nd date.

I persisted still until she said she is gonna miss her last bus of the night. Walked her to the tram...looks like date #3 for the bang.

This was a Day Game girl. I am assuming club pulls and night game girls may offer faster sex speed.
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Post: #54

Awesome work Buddha

Post: #55

Buddha is one of a kind and I can see how him being himself and a nice guy works with women. A lot of post directed towards Buddha on the RVF in the past have been very passive agressive some even confrontational in my eyes. An then he just comes back with a honest open minded response every time.... An he just keeps being him and doing what he is doing.

WCWB (would cuddle with Buddha)

Post: #56

Budapest vs. Belgrade:
I lived in Budapest for about a year and I'd say it's easily on par for quality. For long term living, I agree with Buddha's point that it is probably harder with the upper echelon, which can probably be chalked up to the cultural/linguistic barrier which also stifles making friends and building a social circle. In Budapest I ended up hanging out with almost exclusively non-local friends where as in Belgrade it's more the reverse. That being said it is very easy to make limitless expat friends in Budapest while in Belgrade the foreigners are mostly transient.

To be fair Belgrade is a bit of a hole in comparison to Budapest. It has a few features (e.g. kalemegdan/boat nightlife/the rivers) that somewhat redeem itself, but the building facades are almost universally unpainted and literally crumbling. The restaurants and nightlife also come up short when it comes to variety and sophistication. The heavy smoking will be an issue for some, particularly during the fall/winter when virtually every venue becomes a bona fide hot box. I guess the upside to this is the less intense tourism draw keeps the drunken foreigner "stag party" element smaller, and keeps the foreigner reputation somewhat more intact than it is in Budapest.

Is Belgrade Oversold?
The women and people in general are probably the best thing the city has going for it. Serbians in Belgrade (the center specifically) are pretty happy and very friendly (save the occasional cab driver who puts you on a guilt trip about NATO's involvement in the civil conflict). For that reason the guys who are most well liked by Serbian women are going to be huge proponents of the city and I think it does create a selection bias to some degree. It's certainly much easier to gloss over a city's major flaws if you're thrilled with your dating life.

I was getting a lot of attention from women here so I sold Belgrade pretty hard to some expat friends as a long term destination only to discover that Serbian women weren't reacting to them as well despite being otherwise good looking suave dudes. Most guys are going to be hating life if they're stuck with 6s and 7s when they have to see jaw droppers on a regular basis. High quality Serbian women are discerning and smart so generally they make guys work for it, probably largely due to Serbian men being pretty big players. They definitely sniff you out well enough to know if you aren't living here long term.

Belgrade might be a good fit if you are well above average attractiveness/height and planning to live here long term with an international source of money. Since Serbians are very capable people, it's also not a bad place to woodshed a skill like guitar or particularly tennis without breaking the bank. I play at the Novak Djokovic Center and it's a nice perk being able to hit with some world class talent cheaply (hit me up if you're in town and solid). I do think in general some guys get a little over excited on first impression by the niceness/curiosity of the women and the rave reviews only to get super frustrated when things consistently come up dry or move a lot more slowly than they were expecting.

Cliff notes:
Budapest is more international, much nicer aesthetically and wins in quality of life and sophistication but there's more of a cultural/linguistic barrier. The people of Belgrade are just as attractive, kinder and more welcoming, but the city as a whole does get oversold by the well above average looking foreigner contingent that also happens to be willing to live here long term and put in the work.

Post: #57

(07-11-2015 09:51 AM)jcardial Wrote:  Belgrade might be a good fit if you are well above average attractiveness/height

How tall are we talking about here? Would 5ft 11ins get the job done?

Post: #58

It's fine, I'm just saying that logistically the field starts to shrink pretty fast with each extra inch shorter you are below average since a very significant percent are 5'7-5'8ish+ and wearing big heels to boot. Being well above average looks is of course a lot more important than being way above average height but with the latter you definitely have a bigger field to play on, especially here.

Post: #59

I like how this turned into a pointy elbows discussion.

She's an attractive girl. Unless this is specifically a rating thread, there's no point in arguing over whether she's an 9 or an 8.

Buddha closed her, so lets talk about game here. Most guys regardless aren't going to land a girl like this just jumping off the plane, heck the average guy has never fucked an 8.

Buddha, congrats man. Continue with what you're doing.

Post: #60

Planning on visiting sometime in August but more likely early or mid September as I know locals who will no longer be traveling. How much has the city emptied out so far? Always see lots of Serbian girls here ,especially on Mariahilferstraße buying tons of crap

Post: #61

I touchdown in Belgrade Saturday, will be there for at least a month....

Post: #62

Another arrival to join the Belgrade daygame-fest

however, on the plus side, I bet the chicks are yet to be approached by a dude in a batman costume...

Post: #63

(07-27-2015 11:10 AM)Irish Wrote:  Another arrival to join the Belgrade daygame-fest

however, on the plus side, I bet the chicks are yet to be approached by a dude in a batman costume...

Mental note to self pack costume...

Post: #64

I am here now also

Post: #65

Good job, man. (Tried to quote the pic of the hot 18 year old Serbian girl)

Post: #66

(08-06-2015 05:56 PM)blacktree Wrote:  [quote='Buddha' pid='1081920' dateline='1438901225']


Can you share some info like what you did to get her.

Met this girl at a private club party on a Monday night (18 yr, eye color is rare for Serbia but she has mixed German, Serbian & Russians roots). Got introduced via a mutual Serbian friend. (He actually introduced me to a few girls that night) She left early in the night so afterwards I made out with 3 new girls. Mystery method works well here.

Knowing local guys will do wonders for meeting girls. Social circle game / proof is important here, especially in clubs. I heard that in Poland you can roll solo and still do well but in Belgrade a wingman or an entourage will be crucial.

Date #1:

I always schedule my 1st dates to meet at Republic Square and take them to the usual bar/cafe with couch seating where we can sit side-by-side. After an hour of chatting, I took her to Kalemegdan, a huge park / fortress area overlooking the city. Kalemegdan is the best location for escalation and kiss. Romantic, beautiful, and relaxing place where you can roam for an hour or just sit by the benches overlooking the panorama view of the Danube river. Got pizza afterwards, walked around more then put her on the bus. Knowing that it takes time for Serbian girls to open up sexually, I did not propose a pull to my apartment. The young ones are much much more inexperienced sexually than girls in other countries.

Date #2:

Met her at Republic Square then took her to a bar next to my apartment where we drank Rakia (a place called "Rakia Bar", cozy seating with couches). Highly suggest drinking Rakia for dates (strong Vodka like drink which comes in many flavours). A small shot can get a girl the tingly feeling in the head. They are proud of this national drink so if you boast that you never tried Rakia and wondered about it, she will volunteer to drink this with you. (She paid for the drinks....good girl but a rare gesture, you will need to pay for everything here)

Venue change to a Tapas place because I was getting hungry. I then propose a pull to my apartment and she innocently accepts, expecting that I would not escalate and we would just chill...after 15 minutes into my apartment I have her on my bed with my fingers inside her poosy. She adamantly asserts that there would be no sex and says "You are VERY persistant...I like it."

At the end, she invites herself back to my apartment for the next date by saying she wants to watch a movie together on the couch...Drop her off at the bus.

Date #3:

I play a shitty movie where we both tune out then start making out on the bed. I want to raw dog this 18 year old so even though I have condoms in my drawer I tell her that I don't have any. I stick it in for a bit then she pushes me away telling me to go get a condom outside in some store. I tell her I am not stepping out just to get condoms. I go down on her to make her more horny to a point where I stick my dick in her raw dog once again with no resistance. I finish her off later in doggy style and cum all over her back.


The Date & Logistics Map:





Update on my YouTube Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlALWvbPIL0



Seeing her again tonight for repeat bang


Rinse & Repeat with another Street Game Girl...You can fuck a new girl every week here:



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Post: #67

Imo in this city you gotta have the right looks: Tall, not arab looking and on top of that gotta stay long term cause it takes time for the girls to open sexually and you will have to put a lot of work and investment- taking out, creating special moments, make her friends like you which seems to be also important here.

Guys are largely tall, muscular and alpha.

Weather is around 32-37c

I expected better English from locals, face is I live in a good area 1km from the center and almost nobody speaks English around here...

Most Serbs go on vacation during summer, but of course there are still a lot of 6's 7's and some 8's around. 9's are pretty rare

On top of that, the center is very small, and serbs are very outgoing, so I end up running into the same girls. Every single time I go out I get noticed by a girl I'm dating or one of her friends, or a girl who's my friend dating, so it's too easy to "get caught" while you're out and about, which can then lead to get your ass kicked by her old brother or friends. On tinder I get almost no matches, but it's known that girls here are looking for a long term relationship and not a thirsty foreigner

So honestly be prepared for hard time if you don't have the looks and solid game. Just being honest yo, Buddha is not just an avg guy, he's very muscular, 192cm, intelligent with extremely solid game....

Post: #68

I met many serbs in Budva, a lot of them are indeed extremely tall, muscular and pretty alpha..more importantly the girls are also equally as tall, many taller than me (i'm 184 cm) even without heels.

I found the girls to be pretty alpha too in a way, there are not many petite girls like in Italy, France and even Russia has way more of these type of girls. Some of the facial features can get pretty masculine as they age up, they wear a lot of makeup and a lot of them dress like sluts or strippers/prostitutes in a city like Budva. A serbian guy told me its mostly the village girls who dress like that for their big night out but still. Their look can be very intimidating. I call these girls mafia type girls since they often have fake lips too and are hanging out with guys twice as big as me. Every guy would fear approaching these girls because of the guys that were surrounding them.

The biggest thing one will notice though is that many people go out in groups and get a table, then drink on the table with their friends, mixed groups or only female groups but it still make the approaches difficult in clubs and bars. I did get a few IOI from girls but they were so alpha that it was difficult to gauge how they would react in clubs. I did some approaches late at night in the street, got better results and surprisingly friendly ones, but still couldn't convert.

I found the cutest girls in Budva to be the russian ones, and the cutests serbs were also in Belgrade and not in Budva, but certainly the most beautiful ones I saw were in Budva but it is clear it doesn't represent the majority of the Serbian population, most girls were 8 9 10, I have never seen that outside Budva. Shared some of the pictures with forum members that I took on the beach.

I didn't interact much with the serbs but its probably easier in Belgrade due to certainly a population that speaks better english in the capital. I don't think I will return there though I find their faces to be too masculine and they rarely have a petite frame. I think they are the most alpha women I encountered so far in all Europe.

Post: #69

This place sounds tailor made for me in terms of my looks and physique.

How do these girls compare to ones from Montenegro?

Post: #70

But I can't deny, this place is like a paradise for me. It's one of the cheapest places in europe, people are mostly nice, Serbian Women are fun, caring, loyal, and there aren't too many foreigners.

Ease of hooking up: 2/5 Gotta have smooth game, convey high value, stay long term and put effort, time, some cash
Quality of Women: 4.5/5 I always see gorgeous girls when out
Cost of living 5/5: Very inexpensive, I personally spend around 40eur/day living comfortably in a stylish apartment, eating quality food, going on 3-4 dates a week and having gym membership

Post: #71

Hey guys,

Thought i'd introduce myself. Been a lurker here for a while but just my account activated. hope to contribute.

It's my 3rd time here. I can confirm that the girls here aren't the easiest compared to most parts of Eastern Europe, but its not like Spain or Argentina, where it feels like you're pulling teeth. (Lived long term in both and I speak fluent spanish). I've never pulled here in Serbia (last 2 trips were less than a week, but I did get some numbers, make out with some chicks at clubs, so its not impossible to pull I don't think, but you do need to put some work into it)

Staying you're saying here long term and knowing a few serbian words and making it clear you aren't a backpacker goes a long way here.

Also for short guys, i'm 5 foot 5 and never got any harsh rejection here, though I've been a bit chicken shit to daygame (trying to get better at that lol). It seems the dudes are really tall but the women are not freakishly tall like Holland or something and they don't usually wear heels either (its not practical). Have not seen one fat chick anywhere in the city, though it seems every girl on tinder on belgrade is fat (perhaps they hide in basements?)

Besides women, Belgrade is an extremely livable city. There is a cafe on literally EVERY corner, and if you earn USD on the internet here, you are KING (avg salary in Belgrade is about $700 month). I am living in a beautiful 2br apartment with a friend here, we got a 6 week lease for 450euros each, has A/C, all the amenities.

However, as poor as the girls are here, they won't be seduced by your "foreignness." As far as I can tell it doesn't work in your favor, but doesn't work against you either. If you show some interest in Serbian culture they really like that (and don't dare compare Serbia to Croatia, don't even mention if you've been there)

The weather is also really nice here (though currently in a brutal heatwave). Sept/Oct is great time to visit, the few backpackers that roll through here are gone, and the students come back and average temps are in the 70s day 50s night (18-26C)

Also not in the Schengen zone so if your 90 days are almost up, its a great place to get another 90 days. From my friends who live here, from my understanding you could basically leave every 90 days and come back and they don't really enforce it so you could live here permanentely undocumented if you wanted to.

Hope my 2 cents helps

Anyways i'm here in Belgrade till Sept 14th, living near studentski park. If anyone is interested in meeting up for daygame,nightgame etc I'm here.

Cheers

Post: #72

Good post Buddha and that map will prove useful to guys coming here.

This is the formula. Good advice to everyone else wanting to live or play here. Props to Buddha for jumping right in and proving the 3 date method works. Very easy to have a steady harem here if you put in the work.

I will say though I've yet to see anyone with a stereotypical Serbian 9 here. Breaking past the "average" 7-8 Serbian girl (even though average in Belgrade is much higher than most other places) is difficult. Access to these requires some social circle game or luck.

There are certainly some downsides to Belgrade after the first few months. You get used to the quality, the city is not pretty, Serb girls are cold, Serbian is a hard language to learn, few amenities, slower in the summer, and the fucking winter... If you can manage a winter here then good for you. One winter here reminds me of the northern US. Cold, boring and miserable.

To the guys still here PM me and we'll hang out sometime. We should have a group meet up one night this week and go for a beer.

Post: #73

(08-07-2015 02:58 PM)readysetgo Wrote:  On top of that, the center is very small, and serbs are very outgoing, so I end up running into the same girls. Every single time I go out I get noticed by a girl I'm dating or one of her friends, or a girl who's my friend dating, so it's too easy to "get caught" while you're out and about, which can then lead to get your ass kicked by her old brother or friends. On tinder I get almost no matches, but it's known that girls here are looking for a long term relationship and not a thirsty foreigner

So honestly be prepared for hard time if you don't have the looks and solid game. Just being honest yo, Buddha is not just an avg guy, he's very muscular, 192cm, intelligent with extremely solid game....

As Readysetgo mentioned, Belgrade is not a place for high notches cause you are bound to get caught sooner than later. Just about every girl within a specific age bracket is tied to a mutual social circle by only a few connections away.

My YouTube girl found out about the 18 year old through a mutual friend...we had an ultimatum talk and now I have to let go of one bird to keep the higher quality bird who gives me more pleasure.

Doesn't help that everyone hangs out in the same area. The date places are all concentrated in the center and if you spend a few weeks and make friends you will keep on running into the same people all the time.

Also for girls who live outside the center, they all need to take buses at the same bus stops so you are playing Russian Roulette everytime you drop off your girl after sex or date.

BUT there is abundance here. Even if I have to drop a girl from my rotation I know that there is an oversupply of young poosy. So in the end, mother nature balances itself out in Belgrade.

If Belgrade is like this...I can't imagine how Novi Sad (250,000) the 2nd largest city in Serbia will be like. In Novi Sad you probably need to settle down with 1 girl for a few months before switching. Especially as a foreigner, it will be like walking around with a red sign above your head when you are with a local girl.

Post: #74

(08-10-2015 07:52 AM)Buddha Wrote:  

(08-07-2015 02:58 PM)readysetgo Wrote:  On top of that, the center is very small, and serbs are very outgoing, so I end up running into the same girls. Every single time I go out I get noticed by a girl I'm dating or one of her friends, or a girl who's my friend dating, so it's too easy to "get caught" while you're out and about, which can then lead to get your ass kicked by her old brother or friends. On tinder I get almost no matches, but it's known that girls here are looking for a long term relationship and not a thirsty foreigner

So honestly be prepared for hard time if you don't have the looks and solid game. Just being honest yo, Buddha is not just an avg guy, he's very muscular, 192cm, intelligent with extremely solid game....

As Readysetgo mentioned, Belgrade is not a place for high notches cause you are bound to get caught sooner than later. Just about every girl within a specific age bracket is tied to a mutual social circle by only a few connections away.

My YouTube girl found out about the 18 year old through a mutual friend...we had an ultimatum talk and now I have to let go of one bird to keep the higher quality bird who gives me more pleasure.

Doesn't help that everyone hangs out in the same area. The date places are all concentrated in the center and if you spend a few weeks and make friends you will keep on running into the same people all the time.

Also for girls who live outside the center, they all need to take buses at the same bus stops so you are playing Russian Roulette everytime you drop off your girl after sex or date.

BUT there is abundance here. Even if I have to drop a girl from my rotation I know that there is an oversupply of young poosy. So in the end, mother nature balances itself out in Belgrade.

If Belgrade is like this...I can't imagine how Novi Sad (250,000) the 2nd largest city in Serbia will be like. In Novi Sad you probably need to settle down with 1 girl for a few months before switching. Especially as a foreigner, it will be like walking around with a red sign above your head when you are with a local girl.

This is all too true. The main problem IMO is that no one venture out of center. And when you do the quality and English goes down.

This is why Knez Daygamers don't last. Their approach (even when not scripted or canned) is easy to recognize. A girl used to tell me that she wonders why foreign guys on Knez always ask her about her shoes or talk about the way she walks or dresses.

I agree, Novi Sad would get played out quickly.

Post: #75