Post: #26

The resto seems to have made bikers their lifeblood. Easy to make money servicing customers no one else wants... Until this happens.

Although how do regular businesses keep bikers away without angering them?

Post: #27

(05-19-2015 12:21 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Here are some mug shots from the arrested bikers, via Steve Sailer.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas...d-bail/55/

The interesting thing to note is that there is a good number of mestizos here. These mug shots come from both sides of the shootout. I'm wondering whether it was whites on one side and mestizos on the other. Or it could very well be that the biker gangs are "integrated," which would make them a huge exception in the American criminal landscape, where gangs tend to exist along racial lines. I guess the "tolerance" of today's Anglos exists even among the criminal element.

The Banditos have a lot of Hispanic members. Even HA has some, but in general most outlaw clubs are white.

Post: #28

(05-18-2015 05:51 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  These guys, Mexican cartels and any tough gangsters from the cities would enjoy the decline also.

Of course not. They know some basic economics. Declining markets arent good for business.

Post: #29

Man, being 40+ and getting arrested for getting involved in something like this.. What a bunch of losers..

Post: #30

(05-19-2015 04:59 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 12:21 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Here are some mug shots from the arrested bikers, via Steve Sailer.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas...d-bail/55/

The interesting thing to note is that there is a good number of mestizos here. These mug shots come from both sides of the shootout. I'm wondering whether it was whites on one side and mestizos on the other. Or it could very well be that the biker gangs are "integrated," which would make them a huge exception in the American criminal landscape, where gangs tend to exist along racial lines. I guess the "tolerance" of today's Anglos exists even among the criminal element.

The Banditos have a lot of Hispanic members. Even HA has some, but in general most outlaw clubs are white.

This guy is in the Cossacks, he doesn't look Russian to me though

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas...d-bail/36/

Usually the "Mexicans" in these motorcycle clubs are as Mexican as Taco Bell.

WIA

Post: #31

(05-19-2015 12:24 AM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  The resto seems to have made bikers their lifeblood. Easy to make money servicing customers no one else wants... Until this happens.

Although how do regular businesses keep bikers away without angering them?

This is odd to me also, Twin Peaks is a franchise restaurant like a ripoff of hooters that in my neck of the woods attracts the same "I love sports and have a Dad bod" clientele that hooters does.

How a franchise restaurant turns into a biker warzone is beyond me, I'm used to seeing biker bars that look like run down shacks.

Post: #32

Huh...no one is being called a "thug"...interesting....

Post: #33

They're called bikers, which has a negative connotation in and of itself and conjures up mental images of 1%ers like these guys, rather than some nerdy accountant "motorcyclist."

But don't let that get in the way of your thinly-veiled trolling.

Post: #34

When a man delivers consumer merchandise by motorbike we call him a 'postman'. When some democratic rable declares that merchandise to be 'narcotics', we call him a 'bikie'. That is all.

Post: #35

(05-19-2015 08:29 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  They're called bikers, which has a negative connotation in and of itself

It was a public shootout that killed 9 people, threatened civilians, attacked law enforcement, damaged property, and closed businesses. I don't care if they're on motorcycles, helicopters, or tapirs, they are thugs.

Post: #36

http://www.agingrebel.com/12873

The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.

It will be interesting if this turns out to be true. They will have to produce ballistic evidence to convict any of these guys on murder charges I would assume. This would explain why no civilians or cops were injured or killed in the melee.

Post: #37

(05-19-2015 09:18 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:29 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  They're called bikers, which has a negative connotation in and of itself

It was a public shootout that killed 9 people, threatened civilians, attacked law enforcement, damaged property, and closed businesses. I don't care if they're on motorcycles, helicopters, or tapirs, they are thugs.

The labeling skirmish misses the broader issue.

A lot of my fellows are quick to point out that the Mainstream (white) Media treats black criminals differently than white criminals.

This is true. The stats bare that out. Police respond differently, they arrest less. DA's prosecute less. Judges and Juries (except at the Fed level) punish white people less harshly. Same thing for women, I might add.

But Baltimore/Ferguson protestors were not organizations with histories of violence that are glorified in the media.

Twin Peaks has a Biker Night. (Thursdays)
They want bikers, their money, and the atmosphere that comes with guys that live that lifestyle.

Name me any corporate entity that has a "Latin Kings Wednesday?"
"Crips drink Free Friday"
"Bloods Mary Saturdays"
"Triad Tuesdays"
"Mexican Mafia Mondays"

While people try to score points, the game has already been won.
Pointing out that the ref and the press were colluding is pointless.

That's what the fans want.

The system isn't broken, it works perfectly.

WIA

__________________

Edit after reading the Aging Rebel account,

Apparently the Manager at this "franchise" let this meeting happen.

So I'll be on the lookout for Gangster Disciple Thursdays at my local Hooters from now on.

WIA

Post: #38

I think a chess tournament would've been sufficient. Best of three?

Post: #39

AS long as the bikers kill each other off, and don't injure bystanders or cops who aren't getting in the middle of it.. the whole concept is cool by me.

It's like a mix of an old west gun fight, ghetto ignorance, and standard gang activity all in one.

In open carry states like Texas there's no reason not to have a short gun, and long gun on you at all times.

The short gun (pistol) any old western buff will tell you, was meant to get you back to your long gun, then you clean house. Give me a rifle 30-100' away from a group like this and they're all dead, not just 9.

They released so few details thus far, but if I was one of the cops, I'd do just that. Sit there and let them shoot it out until most were dead, then apprehend whose left.. all the while protecting the public the best I could until it's over.

Post: #40

(05-19-2015 10:31 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  AS long as the bikers kill each other off, and don't injure bystanders or cops who aren't getting in the middle of it.. the whole concept is cool by me.

It's like a mix of an old west gun fight, ghetto ignorance, and standard gang activity all in one.

In open carry states like Texas there's no reason not to have a short gun, and long gun on you at all times.

The short gun (pistol) any old western buff will tell you, was meant to get you back to your long gun, then you clean house. Give me a rifle 30-100' away from a group like this and they're all dead, not just 9.

They released so few details thus far, but if I was one of the cops, I'd do just that. Sit there and let them shoot it out until most were dead, then apprehend whose left.. all the while protecting the public the best I could until it's over.

This isn't the wild west anymore and don't think the MC's wouldn't put a hit out on your like they're giving the green light on LEO's.

I agree, let them kill eachother, sweep in, kill anyone who fires on you and your LEO's, arrest the rest.

Post: #41

http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts/watc...7208515769

A video clip discussing 3 of the gangs and where they operate. I couldn't find it on youtube to link.

MSNBC LIVE WITH THOMAS ROBERTS 5/18/15

How prevalent are biker gangs in the U.S.?

Msnbc’s Richard Lui takes a deep dive into the demographics behind various sets of biker gangs in the U.S. Plus, former undercover ATF agent Jay Dobyns highlights two of the gangs involved in Sunday’s brawl, and their level of influence. Duration: 6:47

Post: #42

(05-19-2015 10:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Twin Peaks has a Biker Night. (Thursdays)
They want bikers, their money, and the atmosphere that comes with guys that live that lifestyle.

Beware of your nomenclature. Many restaurants host a "Bike Night" where anyone riding a motorcycle is welcome. It's not necessarily a "Biker Night"

I have attended many such events over the past decade. Bike nights are a great way for motorcyclists to get together and talk motorcycles in a social environment.

Could a restaurant's Bike Night attract the outlaw element? Sure. I don't suspect it's common, however.

Post: #43

(05-19-2015 10:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 09:18 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 08:29 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  They're called bikers, which has a negative connotation in and of itself

It was a public shootout that killed 9 people, threatened civilians, attacked law enforcement, damaged property, and closed businesses. I don't care if they're on motorcycles, helicopters, or tapirs, they are thugs.

The labeling skirmish misses the broader issue.

A lot of my fellows are quick to point out that the Mainstream (white) Media treats black criminals differently than white criminals.

This is true. The stats bare that out. Police respond differently, they arrest less. DA's prosecute less. Judges and Juries (except at the Fed level) punish white people less harshly. Same thing for women, I might add.

But Baltimore/Ferguson protestors were not organizations with histories of violence that are glorified in the media.

Twin Peaks has a Biker Night. (Thursdays)
They want bikers, their money, and the atmosphere that comes with guys that live that lifestyle.

Name me any corporate entity that has a "Latin Kings Wednesday?"
"Crips drink Free Friday"
"Bloods Mary Saturdays"
"Triad Tuesdays"
"Mexican Mafia Mondays"

While people try to score points, the game has already been won.
Pointing out that the ref and the press were colluding is pointless.

That's what the fans want.

The system isn't broken, it works perfectly.

WIA

__________________

Edit after reading the Aging Rebel account,

Apparently the Manager at this "franchise" let this meeting happen.

So I'll be on the lookout for Gangster Disciple Thursdays at my local Hooters from now on.

WIA

It sounds like the police prepostioned themselves and used automatic weapons to slaughter nine white men who were engaged in a brawl with each other. You don't seem to have a complaint about that, nor is there any national outrage or the media trying to whip up hysteria. I don't see any white people rioting over it.

Imagine the reaction if police had shot down 9 black gang members.

Not a single black rioter in Ferguson or Baltimore was shot by police in spite of the violence of those rioters. In fact, they were treated with kid gloves and largely allowed to run rampant for days.

You also don't even understand what the term "biker" means. Most "bikers" are dentists, factory workers, welders, construction contractors, small business owners. Only a tiny percentage of bikers are involved in criminal biker gangs. Restaurants and bars in my town have regular "Bike Nights" and the town has a huge Bike Week twice a year, which is very successful and peaceful, far more so than Spring Break.

Post: #44

You all that think Texas is open carry state... Are wrong

Post: #45

(05-19-2015 08:23 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  Huh...no one is being called a "thug"...interesting....

Jay Dobyns, the guy who infiltrated the Hell's Angels, called the bikers thugs on TV, several times. on MSNBC's, Poltics Nation with Al Sharpton.

Post: #46

(05-19-2015 07:37 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 04:59 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 12:21 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Here are some mug shots from the arrested bikers, via Steve Sailer.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas...d-bail/55/

The interesting thing to note is that there is a good number of mestizos here. These mug shots come from both sides of the shootout. I'm wondering whether it was whites on one side and mestizos on the other. Or it could very well be that the biker gangs are "integrated," which would make them a huge exception in the American criminal landscape, where gangs tend to exist along racial lines. I guess the "tolerance" of today's Anglos exists even among the criminal element.

The Banditos have a lot of Hispanic members. Even HA has some, but in general most outlaw clubs are white.

This guy is in the Cossacks, he doesn't look Russian to me though

http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/waco-texas...d-bail/36/

Usually the "Mexicans" in these motorcycle clubs are as Mexican as Taco Bell.

WIA

Have you seen or talked to Bandidos from Texas? They sure as hell are not white washed or not "authentic" unless having white partners in crime makes you a sell out. Bandidos have always welcomed Hispanics and probably had or have black members around some where..



This was Bandidos from San Antonio and Cossacks from Dallas, they have been going at it for years.

Post: #47

WIA, your whole point of posting this was to turn it into a race thread.

By leaving out "Biker Gang" from the thread title it's obvious what you were trying to do.

Post: #48

^It's interesting how people interpret words differently. I am not American, so to me "Biker Gang" doesn't mean white, just like "Urban" doesn't mean black.

Post: #49

And we finally got footage of the shootout:





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