Post: #51

Did some research on ski instructing today. Probably going to pass on it - apparently it's either basically baby-sitting kids, or baby-sitting adults. Plus I'd rather be skiing and Gaming than teaching. To that end, I might look into skiing in Sochi (skiing + Russian women = win?).

Post: #52

Got international travel and health insurance with WorldNomads early this afternoon, after spending the morning researching and looking. As far as I understand, all long-term expats should get international travel and health insurance.

I went with WorldNomads instead of International SOS, Medex, or anything from insuremytrip.com because:

1) WorldNomads is a well-regarded brand (at the least, folks like Lonely Planet and Nomadic Matt are willing to advertise for them),
2) International SOS was more expensive and seems to be geared more towards serving companies and their expats, and
3) WorldNomads allowed me to buy even though I'm already abroad. International SOS says you must buy in advance, and while I might've been able to trick their website, I'm sure as an insurance company, they'd find a way to make that work against me in the event of a claim.

Cost was $1050 for 12 months.

Post: #53

(07-06-2015 07:10 AM)262 Wrote:  Got international travel and health insurance with WorldNomads early this afternoon, after spending the morning researching and looking. As far as I understand, all long-term expats should get international travel and health insurance.

I went with WorldNomads instead of International SOS, Medex, or anything from insuremytrip.com because:

1) WorldNomads is a well-regarded brand (at the least, folks like Lonely Planet and Nomadic Matt are willing to advertise for them),
2) International SOS was more expensive and seems to be geared more towards serving companies and their expats, and
3) WorldNomads allowed me to buy even though I'm already abroad. International SOS says you must buy in advance, and while I might've been able to trick their website, I'm sure as an insurance company, they'd find a way to make that work against me in the event of a claim.

Cost was $1050 for 12 months.

Sounds like a reasonable deal - I've never used them as they are always more expensive, and I get some euro health cover anyway. You get way you pay for I guess...skimping on insurance/health cover in a country with pretty poor general health services is never a good idea.

One thing to keep in mind is, that with most policy's you have to pay with your own money and claim it back minus excess, so you'll need to keep a bit of money in the bank just in case.

Any updates on how your settling in to your new home?

Post: #54

(07-06-2015 08:06 AM)averagebritguy Wrote:  Sounds like a reasonable deal - I've never used them as they are always more expensive, and I get some euro health cover anyway. You get way you pay for I guess...skimping on insurance/health cover in a country with pretty poor general health services is never a good idea.

One thing to keep in mind is, that with most policy's you have to pay with your own money and claim it back minus excess, so you'll need to keep a bit of money in the bank just in case.

Any updates on how your settling in to your new home?

Yeah, unfortunately, as an American, our super-expensive medical system somehow doesn't cover us abroad. In fact, had I gone with Medex, which offers "outside the US only" plans as well, I would've paid half! But I decided to play it safe, at least off the bat.

Also, from what I've read, and from what little I've seen, Poland probably has reasonable health care. But, I'd rather not find out after, say, a drunk driver hits me while I'm walking. (Drunk driving is apparently higher here than the EU average, despite what I'm told is a zero tolerance policy).

Plus, if I go somewhere else, like Ukraine, which is more likely not to have decent healthcare, I'm still covered by the same policy. In fact, only Cuba isn't covered (North Korea, here I come! lol).

As for having cash on hand for upfront medical expenses, I'm good. I've always had a cash float in the bank for these kinds of things.

By settling into my new home, if you mean life ex-Game, then yes, the place is starting to feel more like home. Will probably go sign up at the gym tomorrow and resume lifting.

But, if you mean life + Game, then this place is definitely better than home. Ran some daygame this afternoon and, among other highlights, almost same-day-laid an Anglosphere tourist (pretty, but 30s, & definitely not wife material). Ran into LMR for a variety of reasons, most of which should've been under my control, but definitely a good learning experience. Also had fun Facebook-closing a cutely shy Polish girl wearing some nice make-up. Fourthly, I saw the crazy RSD guy from the weekend leaving - but he was approaching 3+ sets, even with his bags in tow! Finally, one of my Tinder leads seems to be in the early stages of panning out - at the least, I'm definitely passing The Jumbotron test (she's texting more than me), so now I've got her on WhatsApp.

It may also help - and may also be getting me more matches - now that I've switched my main Tinder pic back to a well-shot photo of me doing one of my favorite - and exciting - hobbies. I've also changed up the photos so some of them have returned to show me with friends and having fun, but mixed in with the professionally shot (but just me) photos I paid for.

Post: #55

The cutely shy Polish girl flaked on our date today. Unfriend. Had a feeling it was coming - should've done flake defense ("I'll be 30 minutes late, is that ok?").

Also chatted up one of my other Tinder matches, but got a little too eager when asking her out. Should've offered her two different days as an option, and then radio-silenced if she continued to waffle. Radio silence from her now it seems. Will ping her Sunday evening just for the hell of it. But good in a way to see and report to you guys how much Beta behavior Polish girls will accept. My inadvertent 100% Beta clearly doesn't work!

Oh well. At the least, I'm still definitely getting more leads and more practice than I would've in Atlanta. I always knew I'd still have to put in the work here in Poland. But if girls' phones in Atlanta were like Las Vegas casinos (lights and sounds going off everywhere), mine by comparison was like the Las Vegas desert (look, a tumbleweed!).

Overall, guess I'm too eager to get results NOW since I just got to Poland. Gotta relax - got all the time and leads in the world.

Post: #56

(07-06-2015 07:10 AM)262 Wrote:  Got international travel and health insurance with WorldNomads early this afternoon, after spending the morning researching and looking. As far as I understand, all long-term expats should get international travel and health insurance.

I went with WorldNomads instead of International SOS, Medex, or anything from insuremytrip.com because:

1) WorldNomads is a well-regarded brand (at the least, folks like Lonely Planet and Nomadic Matt are willing to advertise for them),
2) International SOS was more expensive and seems to be geared more towards serving companies and their expats, and
3) WorldNomads allowed me to buy even though I'm already abroad. International SOS says you must buy in advance, and while I might've been able to trick their website, I'm sure as an insurance company, they'd find a way to make that work against me in the event of a claim.

Cost was $1050 for 12 months.

Interesting. I'm curious, and I'm not sure if you know the answer, but would WorldNomads's health insurance be a valid purchase option under Obamacare?

Even if I become an expat, I would think I still have to buy health insurance under the ACA.

Post: #57

Im not an expert, but AFAIK expat US citizens don't have to buy health insurance in the US

Post: #58

(07-08-2015 05:50 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  Im not an expert, but AFAIK expat US citizens don't have to buy health insurance in the US

So as long as they stay off of US soil for at least 330 days of the year, right?

Post: #59

In Poland,

Go for night game. Hit the bars and clubs. You will meet a lot of girls. Go for the ONS.

I think you are wasting time getting phone numbers and shit.

Post: #60

(07-08-2015 06:29 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 05:50 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  Im not an expert, but AFAIK expat US citizens don't have to buy health insurance in the US

So as long as they stay off of US soil for at least 330 days of the year, right?

Good question. Short answer is yes, from: https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions-to...zen-abroad

Quote:How to claim an exemption for U.S. citizens living abroad and certain non-U.S. citizens

If one of the following situations applies to you, you qualify for a health coverage exemption:

1) You’re a U.S. citizen who either:
Spent at least 330 full days outside of the U.S. during a 12-month period OR
Was a bona fide resident of a foreign country (or countries) for a full tax year
2) You’re a resident alien who both:
Was a citizen or national of a foreign country with which the U.S. has an income tax treaty with a nondiscrimination clause AND
Was a bona fide resident of a foreign country for the tax year
3) You’re not lawfully present in the U.S.

If one of these applies to you, you don’t have to pay the fee for the months you didn’t have health coverage.

You can claim an exemption for anyone else on your federal income tax return who’s in one of these categories.

What you need to know about this exemption
- If you're a U.S. citizen or resident living abroad: You can claim the coverage exemption for any month during your tax year that’s included in the 12-month period. Details: Physical Presence Test in Pub. 54, Tax Guide for U.S. Citizens and Resident Aliens Abroad
- If you’re a U.S. citizen who’s a bona fide resident of another country or a resident alien of a country with which the U.S. has an income tax treaty: You can claim the exemption for the entire year. Details: Bona Fide Residence Test in Pub. 54
- If you’re a resident alien who’s a citizen or national of a country with which the U.S. has an income tax treaty with an applicable nondiscrimination clause and who’s a bona fide resident of a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year: You can claim the coverage exemption for the entire year. Details: Bona Fide Residence Test in Pub. 54

I also Googled "not lawfully present in the U.S.", which I thought meant living abroad, but apparently it actually means being an illegal immigrant.

Post: #61

(07-08-2015 08:18 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  In Poland,

Go for night game. Hit the bars and clubs. You will meet a lot of girls. Go for the ONS.

I think you are wasting time getting phone numbers and shit.

Probably a fair point if fast sex is the goal. In the dotage of my early 30's though (lol), my preferences are already starting to change, in this order:

1) I like sleep more
2) I like sweet girls more

Post: #62

Looked at taxes and withdrawals again this morning. Based on my research (mostly this Money Mustache post and its comments: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/11/1...your-401k/ ), my withdrawal plan is:

1) 72(t) Substantially Equal Periodic Payments (SEPP) using the Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) Method - there are three methods the IRS allows for you to avoid the early withdrawal penalty, but I chose the RMD method, since it's the only one whose annual dollar amount is allowed to change (it must track your retirement account value, so in my mind it actually tracks inflation). With SEPP you only pay income taxes at the rate you're under when you withdraw (no early withdrawal penalties or capital gains taxes). IRS Source: http://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/Reti...Payments#7

2) Taxable accounts - no early withdrawal penalties, just capital gains taxes. Already paid income taxes at my working rate here though

3) Start Money Mustache's "Roth IRA Escape Hatch Loophole" in 2016, when I'm in a lower tax bracket, since I worked for the first half of 2015. That way, in 2021 (2016+5) I'll start to be able to get my 401k principal (not the gains) free of penalties and capital gains taxes (but not income taxes)

4) Traditional 401k / Roth 401k / Roth IRA withdrawals at 59.5+ (assuming the gov't doesn't push this back)

Post: #63

(07-08-2015 11:04 PM)262 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 08:18 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  In Poland,

Go for night game. Hit the bars and clubs. You will meet a lot of girls. Go for the ONS.

I think you are wasting time getting phone numbers and shit.

Probably a fair point if fast sex is the goal. In the dotage of my early 30's though (lol), my preferences are already starting to change, in this order:

1) I like sleep more
2) I like sweet girls more

Related: hot girls in Warsaw getting paid to be at clubs, by Zel: /thread-48790-...pid1058118 (also occurs around the world)

Post: #64

in Club Enklawa i'm sure that they are paying the hot girls,but there are a lot of clubs where it's not the case .

in the same street Mazowiecka you have the :'' klub bank'' and a lot of other clubs where you will see a lot of hot teen girls .

Post: #65

Call this premature after only 9 days, but I'm going to take stock of whether I want to stay in Poland or explore further east.

Pros of Poland:
1) Living here is easy yet cheap. English is widely spoken, and you can find most Western amenities with little to no extra trouble, and usually for less, by Western standards.
2) Girls are definitely a step up from the West - almost all of them are at least cute and pleasant to talk to by Western standards.
3) The Polish visa loophole for Americans makes staying here easy and uncommitted (though I have yet to test it out myself).
4) The Western expats I've met here and PM'd with on the forum seem cool.

Cons of Poland:
1) Are the girls the fabled FSU wife material? No, this isn't the FSU.
2) Will Poland and its women become Westernized? Maybe. But it's obviously more likely to do so than the FSU countries.
3) Certain FSU regions (outside Moscow, such as Ukraine) are cheaper than Poland.

Nothing new above if you're read these forums and Roosh's work. So I see my choices as the following:

1) Stay in Poland, keep approaching, and work long and hard to build yourself up to "King of Warsaw" social circle status: http://www.rooshv.com/the-king-of-warsaw
2) Do the same, but in the FSU, and learn Russian (to eventually get access to the fabled FSU wife material).
3) Go back to the West. Lol! Just kidding. If every Western male was required to spend a few days in Poland, Colombia, or the Philippines (following Roosh's "go where you don't look like a local" advice), the West would more or less be empty of males overnight.

One thing's for sure - as Roosh has said, there really are no shortcuts to getting what you want. But some trade-offs are obviously better for some than for others. Could I have stayed in Atlanta and made more $? Absolutely, though I no longer needed it. And the trade-off, at least for me, was bad women who required a lot of work. And that was unacceptable for me.

You know what? I can only speculate and read about living in the FSU. I won't really know what it's like until I try. I can always come back to Poland like Roosh did. Better to find out now than to regret later. Call it a relatively quick comparison shop if you like. Who knows, maybe the trade-off of less comfort for better women will be acceptable to me in the FSU.

I'll still see Poland through the end of the month, but I'm going to start planning for the FSU now.

Post: #66

Hey 262

I said it to members from here that I met before, especially guys from the US that Poland is not EE anymore. Their economic power is even stronger than the power of the Southern EU countries. If you compare a city like Warsow with a city like say Vienna in terms of infrastructure and things to do they are pretty much the same.

My trip to Kiev last month was a complete eyeopener in regards of what is still possible in EE. In my opinion right now it is the best place to be in EE. Prices are dirt cheap, the sex tourists are gone (most of them), and girls are much more open to foreigners than before the crisis.

Of course you can work hard in Poland but realistically getting something better than a 7 is almost impossible if you are not a local with some status. In Ukraine if you put in the work, do online dating and go out to clubs you can get a 8 or even more just for the reason because Kiev is having maybe 10 times more 8+ girls than Poland.

Unfortunately I had to reschedule a bit because of my business but I will move to Kiev in early September and stay there as long as the temperatures are acceptable.

Whatever you do good luck and I am sure you keep us updated!

Post: #67

(07-10-2015 05:12 AM)262 Wrote:  I'll still see Poland through the end of the month, but I'm going to start planning for the FSU now.

Not saying you don't like Poland, but what is truly powerful about being location independent is if you don't like the place you're at, you can just pick up and leave. THAT is powerful, my friend.

Post: #68

(07-10-2015 06:06 AM)superschalk Wrote:  Hey 262

I said it to members from here that I met before, especially guys from the US that Poland is not EE anymore. Their economic power is even stronger than the power of the Southern EU countries. If you compare a city like Warsow with a city like say Vienna in terms of infrastructure and things to do they are pretty much the same.

My trip to Kiev last month was a complete eyeopener in regards of what is still possible in EE. In my opinion right now it is the best place to be in EE. Prices are dirt cheap, the sex tourists are gone (most of them), and girls are much more open to foreigners than before the crisis.

Of course you can work hard in Poland but realistically getting something better than a 7 is almost impossible if you are not a local with some status. In Ukraine if you put in the work, do online dating and go out to clubs you can get a 8 or even more just for the reason because Kiev is having maybe 10 times more 8+ girls than Poland.

Unfortunately I had to reschedule a bit because of my business but I will move to Kiev in early September and stay there as long as the temperatures are acceptable.

Whatever you do good luck and I am sure you keep us updated!

It's very possible to get something hotter than a 7 in Poland, so long as you're a reasonably good looking foreigner with some game. By far the biggest obstacle I found is that the 8+ rated women usually don't speak any English making the approach nearly impossible. I got lucky and picked up an 8 on my first weekend out in Bialystock (well, she had an 8 face but a petite little body, still pretty good for no social circle and I can't speak Polish).

Post: #69

(07-10-2015 08:09 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

(07-10-2015 06:06 AM)superschalk Wrote:  Of course you can work hard in Poland but realistically getting something better than a 7 is almost impossible if you are not a local with some status.

It's very possible to get something hotter than a 7 in Poland, so long as you're a reasonably good looking foreigner with some game. By far the biggest obstacle I found is that the 8+ rated women usually don't speak any English making the approach nearly impossible. I got lucky and picked up an 8 on my first weekend out in Bialystock (well, she had an 8 face but a petite little body, still pretty good for no social circle and I can't speak Polish).

If I had to reconcile these two views with my own experience, I'd say (like Roosh says) that the city you choose in Poland matters. Bialystok (on the poorer side of Poland) will be different than Warsaw (the richer side of Poland). I'm in one of the richer parts of Poland, so that is probably dragging down my results.

In either case, I did some proper dance club nightgame last night with the guys I met last weekend. Nothing really came of it, though it was a learning experience. To my surprise, coming from the West, the girls usually at worst received me and my basic nightgame neutrally - dehumanizing blowouts were rare. It's almost like Roosh said years ago - being rejected by a Polish girl is better on average than passing the shit-tests of an American girl.

One thing about Polish club nightgame is that caveman dance game is the way to go. It's too loud in the clubs for verbal openers (save for the outside smoking areas - should've brought a lighter like Roosh suggested!). Caveman dance game, from my basic understanding, follows these steps:

1) Before you grab the girl, ensure your mindset - and thus your body language, posture, and frame - is confident alpha.
2) Approach her from the rear, like you're stalking unsuspecting prey. Approaching from the front will trigger the prey's defenses.
3) All in one swift motion: grab her shoulders, spin her around so she faces you, and then bring your hands behind her back so you can pull her close to your body.
4) Some girls will go along with it - grind them and have fun. Some girls will teasingly resist - do some playful push-pull then. Finally, some girls will obviously resist - drop these girls, though there's a case that pseudo-rape game would work (I didn't have the balls to try, though some other guys in the club came close).

It probably didn't help that my friends said there were like ten RSD guys in that club.

You can also combine the above with confidently aloof dancing, if the club is crowded enough. Basically, if you can channel a thugged-out black rapper into your dancing when rap is playing, like I started doing (even with a blazer on), here and there, girls will start dancing near you, possibly since Polish guys don't or can't channel thugged-out black rappers (or maybe I can because I lived in Atlanta). The girls' dancing may "happen" to make them touch you, or they may obviously look at you, but you'll probably get this vibe that they want you to open them. Once you realize this, snipe that shit and run caveman dance game. Like all sniper game, of course, it may take some time for the girls to approach you - and you're not in control of the quality that does, either. This may have also worked for me as I may have looked and acted like a dark and well-dressed Latino rapper / drug-lord (think a darker version of Pitbull with hair).

Post: #70

Did some daygame with the guys yesterday evening. An interesting thing happened:

I think I met a somewhat red-pill woman.

Now let's not get emotional about that. One date does not make for knowing someone. Heck, as is written on these forums, sometimes even a lifetime does not make for knowing someone (such as guys getting cuckolded for decades, or never knowing their LTR's sordid past).

With that out of the way, here's the breakdown: Central European on vacation, 30s (I know, flag), and feminine - long hair, high heels, and well-dressed, showing a slim figure. She was seated when I saw her, so I ran indirect day game to get the number (thanks again Roosh!). Ran textbook text game (wait/ping/acknowledge-stack/logistics probe/pull trigger) to get her out for drinks later that evening, expecting to have to go for the SDL, since she's only here for a week. Then run textbook first date game (public bar for the first venue with nice guy chat, sexual spike on the way to the more intimate second venue, then gradually escalate at the second venue to long kisses).

At the second venue though, she began talking about how girls from her country were becoming unfeminine ("I don't need a man," "Dressing like a 'lady' is stupid," and so forth). She also said it was not good that the men were being told to let the women lead in relationships. I definitely engaged her on this, and carefully contributed some of my thoughts and observations from the US.

To end the story, I escorted her back to where she was staying. Made out in front of her place before leaving. Should I have attempted to complete the SDL? With the degenerate Anglosphere tourist I mentioned earlier, that one didn't deserve any better, but with this one, I say let's find out. Proceed, but with caution. Don't count on her, and approach other girls, but don't count her out yet either.

Post: #71

P.S. To the last post: I know I need to bang her on the next date. Time to plan and scout for that, since I'm new here.

Post: #72

Good job,enjoying your life !

Post: #73

Nice work @262!

I carried out a kinda-similar plan re financial decisions, and decided to become an expat in a place somewhere which more closely aligns with what I'm after at this point in life. Sounds like you made a smart move, a move that many others back home wouldn't have the courage to do even when confronted with red pill truths, but this is mostly due to human's pattern of habit and comfort-zone. It can get reclusive being an outlier in a random foreign land, but sticks to your core principles bro. Peace

Post: #74

Just booked my FSU trip, preceded by a visit to relatives in the UK. Again, won't say where in the FSU until after the trip (or if I decide to stay put), except over PM to repped members. Let's see if I can handle the perceived negative of living there against the perceived positive of hot FSU wife material.

Post: #75

(07-08-2015 02:11 PM)262 Wrote:  Overall, guess I'm too eager to get results NOW since I just got to Poland. Gotta relax - got all the time and leads in the world.

I've been here a few weeks and had quite a few meet ups. I push for them quick too, respond to messages quick, etc etc. My mentality is 'screw it,' I'm already higher value.