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RaccoonFace · 2016-09-11 12:32:00 · #2401
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Slim Shady · 2016-09-11 12:33:00 · #2402
Within 15 minutes the Clinton hashtags were number 1 trending on Twitter. Suddenly they are almost all gone. Hmmmm...
philosophical_recovery · 2016-09-11 12:36:00 · #2403
WaPo typage:


Callum Borchers Wrote:Conservative media coverage of Hillary Clinton's health has been borderline hysterical. Okay, not even borderline — just plain hysterical. Amateur diagnoses of the Democratic presidential nominee on various news sites range from Parkinson's disease and cancer to radiation poisoning and aphasia. Mainstream outlets have generally dismissed such conjecture.

But after Clinton was forced to leave a Sept. 11 memorial service early Sunday — feeling overheated, according to her campaign — the journalistic scrutiny seems likely to intensify. And not only — or even primarily — because of the overheating.

[Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign]

The bigger issue is the secretive manner in which Clinton's campaign managed the incident. It is an approach that is sure to prove counterproductive than if reporters had been allowed to follow Clinton out of the ceremony or if aides had been faster to address her condition. A lack of information always makes journalists wonder whether something more serious is being kept hidden. It just does.

In the immediate aftermath of Clinton's exit, reporters tweeted their frustration at not knowing what was going on — and being prevented from finding out.

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Lisa Lerer ✔ @llerer
Hillary Clinton left viewing area for 9/11 ceremony about 30 mins ago. No info about her current whereabouts.
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Margaret Talev ✔ @margarettalev
@HillaryClinton did leave the 9/11 ceremony viewing area 45+ m ago. Her poolers not taken w her and we cannot verify status or location.
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toddstarnes ✔ @toddstarnes
From NBC Pool Report: "We are told by the campaign that we are no longer allowed to shoot anything from the ceremony."
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Jennifer Epstein ✔ @jeneps
Why it's important to have a fully protective pool for a nominee, something her campaign hasn't made possible https://twitter.com/margarettalev/status...5405247488
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Abby D. Phillip ✔ @abbydphillip
First information from the campaign on Clinton's whereabouts came around 11:00 am to the press pool https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/...9711591424
8:14 AM - 11 Sep 2016
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Abby D. Phillip ✔ @abbydphillip
Clinton is heading home to Chappaqua, per the campaign. But the press pool is not being permitted to travel with her.
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Sure, anyone can start to feel lightheaded in 80-degree heat, of course. I'll never forget watching a saxophone player in my high school marching band (yes, I was cool) drop to the ground during a Memorial Day ceremony. We weren't even marching or playing at the time. She just hadn't hydrated properly, locked out her knees and ... boom. And she was perfectly healthy.

So Clinton's overheating on its own doesn't prove anything. But her campaign's unwillingness to be instantly forthcoming may well make people in the media who had previously laughed off talk of a health problem suddenly take it a bit more seriously.

"We don't scrutinize her coughing fits," Fox News host Bill O'Reilly told me last week, drawing a contrast between his program and others. "We don't do any of that."

Think that will still be true on Monday's edition of the "O'Reilly Factor"? It's hard to imagine it will be.

It's also hard to imagine that O'Reilly will be alone in treating Clinton's health as a legitimate campaign issue going forward.
Going strong · 2016-09-11 12:44:00 · #2404
(09-11-2016 12:10 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  
(09-11-2016 11:57 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(09-11-2016 10:23 AM)scorpion Wrote:  This public "medical episode" marks a turning point in the campaign. We can now say definitively that Hillary Clinton will not be elected President. If she manages to limp along to election day she will be crushed by Trump in an epic landslide. There is simply no conceivable way that Hillary can string together enough votes to win at this point. Her existing baggage alone almost guaranteed that fact to begin with, and with her failing health now being undeniable she's completely done as a candidate. It's hard enough to hold one's nose and vote for a candidate who is unlikeable and corrupt. It's impossible to vote for a candidate who is unlikeable, corrupt and literally dying in front of your eyes. The human mind simply rebels at the prospect - of all the important qualities for leadership, the most basic is the requisite health to perform the job. What this means is that millions of voters who were leaning Hillary/softly supporting her will stay home. Most of them won't be able to stomach voting for Trump, they just simply won't show up. Her polls numbers will be historically low for an electorate of this size.

That being said, there now exists a very real possibility that the Democrats will alter their plans. Knowing that Hillary is now certain to lose the election, they have four choices:

1) Ensure that the election is rigged
2) Replace Hillary on the ticket with another candidate
3) Continue with Hillary knowing defeat is inevitable
4) Elimintate Trump

The scale of the fraud necessary to pull off the first choice would make it almost impossible to hide. The truth would come out, and rather quickly. Massive civil unrest would follow. The second choice would put us in uncharted waters historically. Kaine might be the only candidate they could legally put on all 50 state ballots at this point. The Supreme Court would have to decide the issue in a special hearing if they wanted to put in someone like Biden. If they are really desperate they might try to find some legal justification for allowing Obama to seek a third term. Wartime emergency powers are the only reasonable justification in that regard. This means that if they decide that an Obama third term is their only option, we are at an extreme risk for a major false flag event in the near future, of at least 9/11 or Pearl Harbor scale.

As for the third choice, for the sake of the country and the world I hope to God they are boxed into going down with their sinking ship. Maybe, just maybe they are drunk enough on their own delusional Kool-Aid to believe that Hillary will win. A fourth option, which I hesitate to even mention, would of course be for them to eliminate Trump. But I honestly view that as extremely unlikely at this point - the aftershocks would be wildly disruptive and unpredictable, up to and including likely civil war, military coups and mass assassinations/purges of the political/media/elite class. Really not something they want to risk at this point.

Gentlemen, buckle up. Shit is about to get very interesting.

I proposed the same analysis, months ago, stating on this thread that Hillary was so unbearable and compromised and un-electable, that the Globalists would get rid of her, incapacitate her once her (real) poll numbers became absolutely catastrophic (globalists have access to real polls).

So, it is my belief that, possibly, Globalists have been incapacitating (poisoning? irradiating, like CFK use to say?) Hillary, in order to urgently replace her by a candidate able to win (I am in fear of Kerry or Biden here).

Either way, whether Hillary's sickness has been engineered or not, now the real danger is, will she be replaced by (better candidate) Kerry? by someone else (surely not Michelle? the Mark C dude)?

At this point, we have to pray that Hillary survives, physically, until election day! I never thought I would one day pray for Hillary's health Blush, but, here I am, let's hope she drags herself until November, gets crushed by the Donald, and ciao abuela...

I also agree with Scorpion that never have globalists had more reasons to try something against the Donald's life... as Hillary fades away, Trump is in real danger!

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Seriously though, I do predict that, if and when Hillary's health becomes so obviously bad that the System has to admit she's fucked up, then MSM and globalist politicians will indeed blame the Russians. The Russians, always: just wait. It might even give Obama a casus beli, and a reason for postponing the elections...
debeguiled · 2016-09-11 12:48:00 · #2405
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They aren't running for president, you dumb cunt.
Sam Malone · 2016-09-11 12:50:00 · #2406
Between this thread, the Trump thread, and watching Huckabee's Twitter page awaiting a shitlord post..

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Dusty · 2016-09-11 12:51:00 · #2407
As I have posted several times here, Hillary is often out of the public eye, and trying to run for president on a part-time basis. She will do a 15 minutes speech to a crowd of friendlies, then disappear for 4-5 days. Mr. Trump called her out on this too.

The conjecture is she is often ill and has trouble standing and so forth (probably due to something serious like Parkinson's). With rest (i.e., spending all day in bed for several days) and drugs, they can put her out there for 15 minutes once a week or so.

But we are in the home stretch, and people are noticing she's AWOL. She is being forced to make public appearances, even when her health won't allow it.

She probably didn't feel well this morning (with Parkinson's, if that's what she has, you have good days and bad days) but 58 days out, and for the 9/11 memorial, it would have been too risky to cancel her appearance. I mean, how do you explain that? So they probably pumped her up with drugs and told her to just sit there for two hours, then she can rest until Wednesday when she goes on Ellen.

But she couldn't get through it.

The campaign is caught between a rock and a hard place. Keep her hidden in the home stretch (which will be even harder to get away with after this episode) or put her out there in public when she might have a coughing fit, or collapse, or lose her balance. Folks, we got her boxed in.

This is what happens when the DNC and MSM cleared a path (i.e., rigged things) to go for their dream of a "historic first woman" president because "it's her turn."

No vetting = disaster.
bacon · 2016-09-11 12:51:00 · #2408
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Seems relevant to repost this...

Hillary: "I dont know why they are saying this, one the one hand its part of the wacky strategy to say all these crazy things and get some people to believe you on the other hand it absolutely makes no sense..."



philosophical_recovery · 2016-09-11 12:52:00 · #2409
(09-11-2016 12:44 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Seriously though, I do predict that, if and when Hillary's health becomes so obviously bad that the System has to admit she's fucked up, then MSM and globalist politicians will indeed blame the Russians. The Russians, always: just wait. It might even give Obama a casus beli, and a reason for postponing the elections...

If that happens we're more fucked than I imagined.

Then again, I knew the government was corrupt but wikileaks proved it was even moreso than I imagined by showing just a tip of the media collusion.

Keep in mind, there's still 10,000 pages of Clinton emails, from what Julian Assange said last week, yet to drop. He hinted this week as a first taste.

Damage control at this stage is impossible. If Obama is able to pull something like that while Wikileaks shows something worse than what we've already seen, and there isn't a coup of some sort in DC, then this place is far more lost than I thought.
Adonis · 2016-09-11 12:53:00 · #2410
Were living in the golden age of memes gents!

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A clip from the opposite perspective, she was leaning on that column.


Dusty · 2016-09-11 13:17:00 · #2411
(09-11-2016 11:49 AM)Dusty Wrote:  MSM is feverishly working up headlines for tomorrow:

"Trump supports pounce..."
"Have Trump supporters overreached..."
"Would Secretary Clinton have fainted had Republicans not obstructed action on climate change?"

   
SamuelBRoberts · 2016-09-11 13:19:00 · #2412
"Seriously though, I do predict that, if and when Hillary's health becomes so obviously bad that the System has to admit she's fucked up, then MSM and globalist politicians will indeed blame the Russians. The Russians, always: just wait. It might even give Obama a casus beli, and a reason for postponing the elections...
If that happens we're more fucked than I imagined.
Then again, I knew the government was corrupt but wikileaks proved it was even moreso than I imagined by showing just a tip of the media collusion.
Keep in mind, there's still 10,000 pages of Clinton emails, from what Julian Assange said last week, yet to drop. He hinted this week as a first taste.
Damage control at this stage is impossible. If Obama is able to pull something like that while Wikileaks shows something worse than what we've already seen, and there isn't a coup of some sort in DC, then this place is far more lost than I thought."

Obama is not going to cancel the elections and declare war on Russia. Obama doesn't even like Hillary.

Ya'll read too much ZeroHedge, I think.
RIslander · 2016-09-11 13:21:00 · #2413
"Hillary had a serious medical problem at the 9/11 memorial today and had to be carried into her van. Politics aside I hope she gets back on her feet soon!" That would be a perfect Trump tweet for this afternoon.
komatiite · 2016-09-11 13:26:00 · #2414
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MattW · 2016-09-11 13:29:00 · #2415
I haven't been following this thread very closely, has anyone asked what kinds of drugs she's being pumped full of in order to go from collapsing to walking around in less than 2 hours?
Dusty · 2016-09-11 13:35:00 · #2416
This one goes out to Hillary in Chappaqua:



Peregrine · 2016-09-11 13:43:00 · #2417
(09-11-2016 01:21 PM)RIslander Wrote:  "Hillary had a serious medical problem at the 9/11 memorial today and had to be carried into her van. Politics aside I hope she gets back on her feet soon!" That would be a perfect Trump tweet for this afternoon.

Disagree. Trump should not tweet anymore for the rest of the day. The only tweet needs to be #NeverForget.

15 years ago, almost 3,000 Americans died. Not a day for politicking.
Fisto · 2016-09-11 14:02:00 · #2418
You know Trump's fingers are itching like crazy to tweet something.
Dusty · 2016-09-11 14:16:00 · #2419
Shrillary "overheating" :



Going strong · 2016-09-11 14:27:00 · #2420
(09-11-2016 01:29 PM)MattW Wrote:  I haven't been following this thread very closely, has anyone asked what kinds of drugs she's being pumped full of in order to go from collapsing to walking around in less than 2 hours?


Actual picture of Hillary "getting better" (and it explains the hole in her tongue!):

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I mean, Overheating and getting better? Hillary went all Crank on us:
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budoslavic · 2016-09-11 14:37:00 · #2421
After what happened today, the Deplorable Trump Voters seriously don't believe she's fit to lead.
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Easy_C · 2016-09-11 14:38:00 · #2422
It is a mistake to think that TPTB think her senility is a bad thing. The deep state wants a president who isn't capable of governing on their own.

Armstrong loves to tell the story of how the party insiders had decided that Bush was "really stupid" and that they were going to run the country by having him be the figurehead while the smart people made all the decisions in the shadows. That is more or less what actually happened with Cheney and Rumsfeld making all of the big decisions. The same thing happened with Obama who was just enough of a deluded narcissist to do a great job of destroying what little was left of American culture while all of the important economic and foreign policy decisions are made by so called "experts" in the shadows with no public oversight or review.

The thought of having a senile Hillary elected sends a tingle up these people's legs because it means that they're free to start all kind of new conflicts, even a war with Russia(giving them the chance to become famous military leaders while others do the dying), while she gets all of the scrutiny and all of the blame. All while being both unable to manage things herself due to her medical problems and unlikely to because of her nasty, lazy personality where she prefers that other people do all of the hard work.
Canopus · 2016-09-11 14:39:00 · #2423
(09-11-2016 02:37 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  After what happened today, the Deplorable Trump Voters seriously don't believe she's fit to lead.
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Well, you don't get much steadier than rigor mortis. Laugh
budoslavic · 2016-09-11 14:41:00 · #2424
(09-11-2016 02:39 PM)Canopus Wrote:  
(09-11-2016 02:37 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  After what happened today, the Deplorable Trump Voters seriously don't believe she's fit to lead.
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Well, you don't get much steadier than rigor mortis. Laugh

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budoslavic · 2016-09-11 14:49:00 · #2425
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