@Ghost Tiger, I understand what Mike is doing. I'm simply giving my best take on things as I see them.

@Eastside, there is no particular reason to think it's "aspiration pneumonia", and certainly the fact that she was walking around is not evidence of that, because, as I noted, the most common types of pneumonia are not especially contagious.

As far as what lies ahead: the most likely scenario is that HRC will recover from this in a week to 10 days. If she appears in public after that time, seems fine, walks around, interacts with people and the press, performs well enough in the debate etc, then this issue, as such, will not affect her chances all that much (though it certainly won't help her). If she cannot recover reasonably fast -- or has other health issue going forward -- she will be in real trouble. I don't think that whatever is said about this subject online in the meantime will have that much of an effect one way or another.

She has no health problems, you bunch of sexist bigot Voldehitlers. Look at her open this jar!

Okay so she had some pollen allergies.

Okay so she was overheated.

Okay so she was dehydrated.

Okay so she just has a little pneumonia.

Okay so she _______________________

(What next?)

Interesting. She's wearing anti seizure glasses.

   

A question occurred to me:

If Hillary collapsed from pneumonia, why did she go to her daughter Chelsea's apartment?

Why not go to the emergency room? Unless she has a doctor who travels with her full time. And if she does have a full time doctor, why?

Ask your liberal friends.

Pneumonia?

She's had pneumonia for the last 8 months? Her coughing debacle from the other day wasn't the first time.

I'm pretty excited they're doubling down with her. She'll be a decomposing corpse before her NWO overlords let her off the stage. This is going to be quite the circus.

Also love her walking out of that building and trying to crouch down to that little girl. The timing is just too perfect. Her acolytes might eat that shit up but it's stuff like that, those forced, uncomfortable moments like "I ain't noways tired" or "just chillin' in Cedar Rapids" that make her out to be the out-of-touch reptilian xenomorph that she is. Oh look, Hillary trying to be endearing and cute with a little girl. How fucking weird.

(09-11-2016 08:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I for one encourage Hillary to be strong and campaign even harder, especially on hot southern states.

We've never, to my knowledge, had a candidate literally die during a debate or stump speech. Would be worth it just for the spectacle alone.

You know what is typical. Yesterday this news about her fainting broke around 20:00 in the evening Dutch time (I am in Asia currently). I wake up here and its in the middle of the night in Holland, but suddenly two of the biggest newspapers have an extensive article, basically saying the same, she has pneumonia, but then reframing the whole story that both candidates are old, that Trump also hasn't released a well written statement and ending the article that Clinton should be fine.

It's just confirms to me that all these big news outlets are working together. There are never any big articles like this written in the middle of the night in Holland and suddenly there are.. Complete bullshit

(09-11-2016 08:31 PM)Thaitanium Wrote:  It's just confirms to me that all these big news outlets are working together. There are never any big articles like this written in the middle of the night in Holland and suddenly there are.. Complete bullshit

It's just plagiarism, just like the February meetups.

(09-11-2016 08:00 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  @Ghost Tiger, I understand what Mike is doing. I'm simply giving my best take on things as I see them.

@Eastside, there is no particular reason to think it's "aspiration pneumonia", and certainly the fact that she was walking around is not evidence of that, because, as I noted, the most common types of pneumonia are not especially contagious.

As far as what lies ahead: the most likely scenario is that HRC will recover from this in a week to 10 days. If she appears in public after that time, seems fine, walks around, interacts with people and the press, performs well enough in the debate etc, then this issue, as such, will not affect her chances all that much (though it certainly won't help her). If she cannot recover reasonably fast -- or has other health issue going forward -- she will be in real trouble. I don't think that whatever is said about this subject online in the meantime will have that much of an effect one way or another.

"Not especially contagious" would not be good enough for me if that was my daughter the diseased old hag exploited for a photo-op. Someone who wants to be president should show better judgment. ANY risk of infecting that child is TOO MUCH risk. She hid her infection and then exposed the unknowing public, including a small child who is particularly vulnerable. Cerno's attack isn't merely rhetorical, it's also a legitimate criticism of this evil bitch's utter lack of morality. Hag has no soul, and this proves it.

Vox Day Wrote:The ever-shifting Narrative

Hillary's health narrative changes direction faster and more smoothly than a school of fish.

Hillary is in EXCELLENT health

Except for the allergies.

And the cough, which is, of course, allergies.

Which have nothing to do with why she stumbled.

She was just overheated. Her feet were hot, that's why she took off her shoes. Shoe.

Actually, we meant she was dehydrated.

And by dehydrated, we meant to say pneumonia.

Still to come:

Turns out it's aspiration pneumonia, to be precise.

Well, yes, that is a symptom of Parkinson's Disease.

Which, um, she has. But it's not that-

All right, it's pretty bad. But that doesn't mean she can't-

So, anyone have Bernie's number?

So, how on Earth did Mike Cernovich know that it would be announced that Hillary has pneumonia? This is how: "Aspiration pneumonia is an important cause of morbidity and mortality in Parkinson's disease (PD)."

https://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/09/the-e...ative.html

Back in 2014, Karl Rove predicted that Hillary Clinton probably had some form of brain injury. Here's the Politico article from 2014:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/ka...ury-106613

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/karl-rove-hil...in-damage/

Looks like the media has been trying to sweep this under the rug for more than 2 years at least. Rove brought it up again on Fox news in mid-August.

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Isn't aspiration pnenomia unrealistic when she is able to speak "clearly"? If she had so bad parkison that her throath muscles are affected, wouldn't she have problems speaking clearly?

My mother is a few years older than Hillary. Over the years, she has had some health problems. She'll have something knock her down, and she'll be run down and tired for months, with gradual recovery to full vigor over a year or so. This has happened 3-4 times in the past 20 years. I've seen the same phenomenon in a number of older people that I've known.

I would expect Hillary is like this, and if she's falling down sick, she's not going to be back to normal in a few weeks. I think she'll need months of light duty to get back to a normal level of vigor for a heavy drinking old woman with chronic health issues. Note that this is nothing like the vigor of a fit, healthy old person.

I can't even fathom what hardcore cocktail of drugs she'll be on in order to appear functional on Ellen. I'm thinking a speedball should do the trick.

(09-11-2016 08:00 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  @Ghost Tiger, I understand what Mike is doing. I'm simply giving my best take on things as I see them.

@Eastside, there is no particular reason to think it's "aspiration pneumonia", and certainly the fact that she was walking around is not evidence of that, because, as I noted, the most common types of pneumonia are not especially contagious.

As far as what lies ahead: the most likely scenario is that HRC will recover from this in a week to 10 days. If she appears in public after that time, seems fine, walks around, interacts with people and the press, performs well enough in the debate etc, then this issue, as such, will not affect her chances all that much (though it certainly won't help her). If she cannot recover reasonably fast -- or has other health issue going forward -- she will be in real trouble. I don't think that whatever is said about this subject online in the meantime will have that much of an effect one way or another.

I'm not saying it is aspiration pneumonia (I'm not a doctor by any means), I'm questioning why you seem to dismiss that option when it seems relatively viable/plausible, regardless of whether Cernovich's exact reasoning for it is good or not. And the reason why I think this is a big deal (and that Hillary won't recover from it in 10 days) is because it destroys the "conspiracy theory" angle on her health (the only defense that had a chance of working) and also moves the #HillaryHealth confirmation bias into the larger electorate. With each health episode, it will exponentially hurt her, and this just moved the needle on that bigtime. It makes any health incidence going forward way bigger than it would be before this and the way she has been going lately, another health episode of any sort could come any day now.

I don't think we disagree that this makes future health incidents all the more damaging though.

I think where we disagree is whether she will recover from this quickly or not. I just don't see that as likely based on her past history (she has shown signs of poor health for awhile now- this isn't new), range of symptoms, age, and the fact that she has basically sat on her ass for the past month and seems to be getting worse and worse regardless. I think it is just as likely or even more likely that she has some sort of new health event/issue that is caught on video in the next few weeks then not at this rate. They might just completely hide her from the public at this point, but that will also spur questioning and look bad in comparison to Trump who is doing anywhere between 1-3 events/appearances/speeches a day and maintains a high energy pace. She is not in a good spot right now.

Il Cerno is on the money. Best way to cut into her female votes would be to show her endangering a child's life.

Types of pneumonia or how contagion works don't factor into this emotional hotbutton, especially with such a muddle-headed demographic.

Ben Garrison keeps delivering.

Except she isn't dropping her shoe, she is dropping a part of her shit bag

(09-11-2016 10:46 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Ben Garrison keeps delivering.

savage.

My ex-wife has been posting Ben Garrison cartoons on her Facebook. She's pro-Trump, but not truly alt-right. She's seeing the links and sharing them from her circle of friends. This stuff is getting widespread viewership.

Who here remembers the shortest tenured president in US history?



William Henry Harrison. He served only one month in office. He was 68 years old when he became president. Hillary Clinton is also 68 years old.

Guess what else they have in common.

Pneumonia.

He died of pneumonia in office for a grand total of 31 days of being sworn in.

If there was ever a president that had pneumonia while in office and survived it, please let me know because I am drawing a blank and cannot recall any. Same goes for campaign runs as well.

Hillary's health is going to bone her in the debates. Her low energy will be even lower and Trump is going to have a field day.


This pleases me greatly.