(07-23-2015 07:12 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 07:03 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 05:40 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 05:20 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 04:56 PM)LINUX Wrote:  There are plenty of 8's on Colombian Cupid.

Yeah, there are definitely 8+s on the latina-related Cupid Media sites. They're much rarer and respond much less frequently than 6s and 7s, obviously, but they're there.

I've went out with what most would call a 9 from either Latin or DR Cupid, full time model who competes and wins beauty pageants. She actually contacted me first by commenting on one of my photos.

And there's definitely a material amount of Colombian girls on those sites who fill the hotness gap between her and the second girl Moj posted (who I think is quite cute, 7.5) with a few perhaps even rivalring her.

I met a 9 off Colombian Cupid. Took her back home and ripped off her pants only to find the name roberto tattooed in block letters on her lower back. She got it when she was 14 but I still couldn't fuck her. Put her in a taxi. I think about her a lot because she was so fucking hot, but the tattoo was just too much for me since I would be starring at it when I fucked her from behind. I'm not a jealous person but that was too much.

I've never run into a situation like that, but I would put that in the same class of offense as being a single mom or being a hooker for me--where no amount of hotness can surmount its putridity--and dismiss her without losing any sleep.

I'm more stubborn than most when it comes to things like this, though.

The same thing happened to me at home at the Jersey Shore one time. A girl had the name "Oscar" tatooed on her lower back, then tried to tell me that "Oscar" was her father.

Atlantic - Thanks for the note about having guests stay the night at a Colombian hotel.

Bogota Datasheet Summary: 3 days, 3 nights, 3 bangs + 2 makeouts (and nearly certain bangs next time if I want)

Background:
-American mid 20's. 5'11, 175lbs, athletic & in good shape
-Intermediate Spanish (I know basic phrases and can hold a conversation for a few minutes).
-Overall I have average game, but it really depends on the venue. I struggle at clubs and need to improve reading IOIs, body language, and being more aggressive. I do much better at house parties and bars where I can have some semblance of a conversation, use humor, and have a more chill/friendly vibe.

Pre-trip:
I used hotel points to stay in south Zona T, about a mile from Andino/Andres DC. As everyone knows logistics are paramount and this was a good location.

I pipelined a few dozen girls in the weeks before my trip using only Tinder (paid $10 for a month to use the change location feature and get unlimited swipes). Several girls wanted to pick me up from the airport, but I preferred to get situated and walk the blocks around my hotel first to get comfortable with the neighborhood. Also I reserved my hotel with "2 guests" and didn't want an airport pickup girl checking in with me and possibly having her named added as the guest in case I later needed the slot open.

Day 1:
Girl #1: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Is dressed very classy, yogi, dark blonde hair, thin with few curves but a very pretty face. Body a solid 7, overall approaching a 7.5.

She meets me at my hotel shortly before the Colombia-Argentina Copa America match. I'm wearing nice jeans, button-up, blazer, and dress shoes. We have some light touching and kissing for a few minutes before joining her sister + 2 USA guys her sister knew at a bar 1.5 miles away. At the bar her friends have a table but only 1 extra chair. The entire first half she is sitting on my lap. At half time my girl and her sister go to the restroom, which I figure is just making sure her sister approves of me. When they return I'm in conversation and laughing with the 2 male friends. My girl sits on my lap, starts kissing and telling me how much she likes me, and the entire second half will not stop touching me. I simply make sure I don't get drunk.

After the game (Argentina beats Colombia) it's only 9pm so we go to another bar where the guys meet some of their female friends. My girl is all over me and making sure I don't engage with any of these new girls. It's not even 11pm and I tell my girl I want to leave. She tells her sister, who tells me to treat her well (cute), and we leave. I flash a photo of my reservation for 2 guests to security and they let us both in the hotel no problem. Within 1 minute she is sucking me off and we bang for an hour, then again in the morning before I give her money for a taxi home. She was good, and every time I grabbed her roughly or squeezed her or pulled her hair she'd moan and say in her cute accent how much she liked it. Just goes to show why direct/aggressive/alpha game is so effective - girls assume how you are outside of bed is how you'll be in it, and they like being man-handled, tossed around and controlled in bed. I wish someone had told me this as a teenager, and it's a part of my game I can definitely improve.

My first Colombian flag on my first night.


Day 2:
I shop at the mall in the afternoon. Daygame a few girls but do not find any particularly interesting. I think there is solid potential but I was a bit unlucky and also leaving in a few days and seemed like this would be more fruitful for stays of at least a week, since often the girls had to work the next day as well.

Girl #2: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Venezuelan. Dark brunette, average curves. Another solid 7.

She meets me at the mall in the evening for coffee. We start off slow as I make a dumb comment comparing Pablo Escobar to Hugo Chavez. Normally I'd steer clear of politics but she had a very interesting perspective and I wasn't really interested in a bang at that moment. I eventually redeem myself, we make out, and she insists I join her later in the night at Teatron, apparently Latin America's largest gay club, for her friend's going away party.

Girl #3: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Blonde hair, obviously rich, large tits. Looked better in her photos so I'd only give her a 6.5.

She, along with her gay male friend and his boyfriend, pick me up from my hotel. We are going to a large rooftop bar called Centrico. Interesting how the straight group (girl #2) is partying at a gay club, and these gay guys with girl#3 are partying at a straight club.

On the club roof our conversation is going well and she starts kissing me within an hour. I get her to come back to my hotel around 1AM but she insists "I never do sex on the first meeting". I'm not entirely convinced, but I have no luck and she leaves at 7AM (at least I paid for no taxis the entire night or morning - not that I cared about the cost but the principle of it in the morning with no bang would have annoyed me).

The Venezuelan (girl #2) had been texting me all night to meet her at Teatron and how she wanted to see me again before I left. In hindsight I shouldn't have pulled girl #3 back to my hotel and I likely could have gotten my Venezuelan flag.

Around 8AM girl #3 girl messages me she is back home safe and is saying how much she wants to meet up again. I tell her I don't think I have time and she blatantly says she wants to have sex with me. WTF, she was just half naked in my bed all night?? Girls are crazy with their "rules".


Day 3:
It's my last full day. While I had a fun Saturday and met 2 girls that now want to fuck me, I want some more bangs before I leave so set up some dates with new hotter girls.

Girl #4:
Met on Tinder, speaks English. The girl is super cute, looks better in person than her pictures which is rare but always a good sign. Short but very curvy, the exotic brown skin I love in a Latina lady. I like short girls so to me a solid 8. On appearance my favorite Colombian from my trip I met up with.

The girls meets me at my hotel in late morning for coffee at a nearby cafe. We chat for an hour, and then are both getting hungry so I move her to my hotel restaurant. She likes the vibe and we order a flatbread pizza and a beer. I kiss her while we are waiting for the food to arrive. She seems very curious on my previous travels so I take her up to the hotel room to show her some pictures from a previous trip. After a few minutes of showing her photos I pull her towards me and we start kissing. I then take her hand, lead her to the bedroom, and remove her top. I don't know what it was about her shirt but damn she has some super fine big tits for a girl her size. Soon we're both completely naked and I go down on her. She tastes great and is already extremely wet, moaning but trying to keep quiet for some reason. In hindsight if she was this wet before I even started I probably should have been more aggressive and invited her to my room sooner. Her pussy was really tight and the only times I've come quicker (couldn't have been more than 10 minutes) were when I was a teenager or just trying to get some sleep at 4AM. She needs to leave so I give her money for a taxi. We've stayed in contact and she's a girl I'd like to see again. She will occasionally send me whatsapp photos of her pole dancing classes.

My second Colombian notch.

It's now mid-afternoon and girl #1 really wants to see me again. She says she has something for me and will meet me at my hotel. I say that's fine but I don't have a lot of time. She arrives and we grab a beer together. I definitely could have pulled her up to my room for the hook up but I want to be ready to roll with the new girl I'm meeting for dinner.

I need a quick nap so I change my date to 10PM but even then I'm 15 minutes late and girl #5 is waiting for me with a 2 person table at Andres DC (a famous restaurant I wanted to eat at before I left).

Girl #5: Met on Tinder, speaks some English. From Argentina (Buenos Aires), cute smile and I just love her energetic personality from the start. She is sitting behind the table so I can't get a great look but she is thin. I'd find out 2 hours later when we start dancing that she was rather short, only 5'3 (from how high she sat at the table I would have guessed like 5'7 initially). I'd give her body a 7 but given her energy and that she was from Argentina, maybe a 7.5

We have some really good conversation and are feeding each other our meals in a sexy way. As we are finishing our food I lean across the table to whisper and kiss her. She likes it and immediately says we should grab some shots then go dance. After a couple Aguardiente shots we start dancing. It's a Sunday night before a holiday and she keeps remarking how normally it's more crowded but is glad she has some space. I'm an average dancer (not great moves but act confident and look like I'm having a blast in a cool manner, which is better than most so maybe I'd say I'm an above average dancer). In any case it doesn't matter - she is the best fucking dancer I've ever partnered with, and this includes instructors from bullshit classes I took in college. She says she has taken classes non-stop since she was 3 of all different styles and you can tell. All the other couples are occasionally glancing at us (possibly because I as the only gringo on the floor of the ~15 couples). I think she's impressed by my energy (and secretly hoping it translates to the bedroom), and I lose all thoughts of inviting her back to my hotel at the moment since it's very rare to have a partner so talented. We lose track of time and next thing we know it's 3AM and they are kicking everyone out. She suggests we share at cab back to my hotel. When we arrive at my hotel and despite having a room for 2 guests they initially try and charge me $60 for an overnight guest. I go to the front desk and tell them to look up my reservation and they see I'm the highest status the hotel offers so agree to "let it slide this time" but do take the girl's name down. I'm pissed but it's my last night so let it go and don't make a scene.

Within 2 minutes I"m fingering her and she is moaning "Oh Baby" non-stop and loud. We bang all night and morning, on the bed, on the floor, in the shower. We must have only gotten 1 hour of sleep. We each orgasm multiple times and her only complaint is that I'm not always hard. Girl, it can take several minutes after I come all over you for me to then do it again (FYI - I'm not taking any supplements or testosterone).

I give her money for a taxi in the morning and take off for the airport. Despite my taxi having to stop for a few minutes while some idiot does HANDSTANDS in the middle of the road I make my flight in time.

Argentina flag captured.

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Some general tips & suggestions:

1) Fashion is important if you will be in Zona Rosa. I was often wearing dark jeans and a navy blazer. Nice shoes with either a button-up shirt or plain t-shirt. The girls seemed to dig the blazer, and it was just the right amount of dressing above the competition but not too formal or out of place.

2) Take Bogota Bike Tours. It is a great tour if you want to see the city. Cheap (35k or ~14USD). You can play tejo. Potentially meet wingman. And the pictures will greatly impress girls as you'll distinguish yourself from the sex tourists and have plausible deniability if they try and accuse you of such or think you're out gaming girls 24/7

3) Go to Andres DC if you want a good meal or like dancing. It can be a bit expensive (by Colombian standards, not American). There are better places to go alone but with a date or in a group you should have fun. My next visit I will go to the original Andres Carne del Res in Chia (outside Bogota).

4) Since I had a short stay the biggest resistance I was facing was girls asking why I was in Bogota. My company has an office in Bogota so I used that as my back story, saying I may potentially move to Bogota for work but wanted to check out the city first and see how I liked it. As mentioned by others you need to have a better response than you are simply visiting for a few days, even if that is what you are doing.

5) Knowing Spanish helps. I'm not sure it was a deal breaker with any of the girls, given that they all spoke some English and I met them on Tinder. But if you are going to do cold daygame or nightgame some Spanish is necessary unless you have something else going for you like elite body language or exceptional looks.

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For next time:

1) I'll probably hit up girls #2, 4, & 5 again. Girls #1 & 3 were rich and I told them if they visit the USA to let me know but we'll see if anything happens.

2) I want to do more daygame and nightgame and less online. Feels more authentic and will help my game in the future and other countries. This is a real weak spot in my game (not terrible but can definitely improve a lot).

3) I want to increase quality. The girls I had were fine but I know I can do better. I think my success was mostly due to staying at a high-end hotel, having good fashion, and having an above average body. Looking back I think the girls made up there mind to fuck me within the first few minutes, and I simply needed to not fuck up or get drunk. High quality girls will test my game and force me to improve or strike out.

4) Would love to meet up with some forum members next time I'm in Colombia.

I have a few pics of the girls mentioned above. If repped members are interested I can PM.

Any questions let me know. This has been a great thread and being new to game I've learned a lot. I've got another 4-day Colombia trip and a 3-week Europe trip coming up very soon. If people like this info let me know and I'll do some write ups after those trips.

Cheers.

Nice one Kevin_89. Glad you had a good time.

(07-26-2015 07:39 AM)Kevin_89 Wrote:  Atlantic - Thanks for the note about having guests stay the night at a Colombian hotel.

Bogota Datasheet Summary: 3 days, 3 nights, 3 bangs + 2 makeouts (and nearly certain bangs next time if I want)

Background:
-American mid 20's. 5'11, 175lbs, athletic & in good shape
-Intermediate Spanish (I know basic phrases and can hold a conversation for a few minutes).
-Overall I have average game, but it really depends on the venue. I struggle at clubs and need to improve reading IOIs, body language, and being more aggressive. I do much better at house parties and bars where I can have some semblance of a conversation, use humor, and have a more chill/friendly vibe.

Pre-trip:
I used hotel points to stay in south Zona T, about a mile from Andino/Andres DC. As everyone knows logistics are paramount and this was a good location.

I pipelined a few dozen girls in the weeks before my trip using only Tinder (paid $10 for a month to use the change location feature and get unlimited swipes). Several girls wanted to pick me up from the airport, but I preferred to get situated and walk the blocks around my hotel first to get comfortable with the neighborhood. Also I reserved my hotel with "2 guests" and didn't want an airport pickup girl checking in with me and possibly having her named added as the guest in case I later needed the slot open.

Day 1:
Girl #1: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Is dressed very classy, yogi, dark blonde hair, thin with few curves but a very pretty face. Body a solid 7, overall approaching a 7.5.

She meets me at my hotel shortly before the Colombia-Argentina Copa America match. I'm wearing nice jeans, button-up, blazer, and dress shoes. We have some light touching and kissing for a few minutes before joining her sister + 2 USA guys her sister knew at a bar 1.5 miles away. At the bar her friends have a table but only 1 extra chair. The entire first half she is sitting on my lap. At half time my girl and her sister go to the restroom, which I figure is just making sure her sister approves of me. When they return I'm in conversation and laughing with the 2 male friends. My girl sits on my lap, starts kissing and telling me how much she likes me, and the entire second half will not stop touching me. I simply make sure I don't get drunk.

After the game (Argentina beats Colombia) it's only 9pm so we go to another bar where the guys meet some of their female friends. My girl is all over me and making sure I don't engage with any of these new girls. It's not even 11pm and I tell my girl I want to leave. She tells her sister, who tells me to treat her well (cute), and we leave. I flash a photo of my reservation for 2 guests to security and they let us both in the hotel no problem. Within 1 minute she is sucking me off and we bang for an hour, then again in the morning before I give her money for a taxi home. She was good, and every time I grabbed her roughly or squeezed her or pulled her hair she'd moan and say in her cute accent how much she liked it. Just goes to show why direct/aggressive/alpha game is so effective - girls assume how you are outside of bed is how you'll be in it, and they like being man-handled, tossed around and controlled in bed. I wish someone had told me this as a teenager, and it's a part of my game I can definitely improve.

My first Colombian flag on my first night.


Day 2:
I shop at the mall in the afternoon. Daygame a few girls but do not find any particularly interesting. I think there is solid potential but I was a bit unlucky and also leaving in a few days and seemed like this would be more fruitful for stays of at least a week, since often the girls had to work the next day as well.

Girl #2: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Venezuelan. Dark brunette, average curves. Another solid 7.

She meets me at the mall in the evening for coffee. We start off slow as I make a dumb comment comparing Pablo Escobar to Hugo Chavez. Normally I'd steer clear of politics but she had a very interesting perspective and I wasn't really interested in a bang at that moment. I eventually redeem myself, we make out, and she insists I join her later in the night at Teatron, apparently Latin America's largest gay club, for her friend's going away party.

Girl #3: Met on Tinder, speaks English. Blonde hair, obviously rich, large tits. Looked better in her photos so I'd only give her a 6.5.

She, along with her gay male friend and his boyfriend, pick me up from my hotel. We are going to a large rooftop bar called Centrico. Interesting how the straight group (girl #2) is partying at a gay club, and these gay guys with girl#3 are partying at a straight club.

On the club roof our conversation is going well and she starts kissing me within an hour. I get her to come back to my hotel around 1AM but she insists "I never do sex on the first meeting". I'm not entirely convinced, but I have no luck and she leaves at 7AM (at least I paid for no taxis the entire night or morning - not that I cared about the cost but the principle of it in the morning with no bang would have annoyed me).

The Venezuelan (girl #2) had been texting me all night to meet her at Teatron and how she wanted to see me again before I left. In hindsight I shouldn't have pulled girl #3 back to my hotel and I likely could have gotten my Venezuelan flag.

Around 8AM girl #3 girl messages me she is back home safe and is saying how much she wants to meet up again. I tell her I don't think I have time and she blatantly says she wants to have sex with me. WTF, she was just half naked in my bed all night?? Girls are crazy with their "rules".


Day 3:
It's my last full day. While I had a fun Saturday and met 2 girls that now want to fuck me, I want some more bangs before I leave so set up some dates with new hotter girls.

Girl #4:
Met on Tinder, speaks English. The girl is super cute, looks better in person than her pictures which is rare but always a good sign. Short but very curvy, the exotic brown skin I love in a Latina lady. I like short girls so to me a solid 8. On appearance my favorite Colombian from my trip I met up with.

The girls meets me at my hotel in late morning for coffee at a nearby cafe. We chat for an hour, and then are both getting hungry so I move her to my hotel restaurant. She likes the vibe and we order a flatbread pizza and a beer. I kiss her while we are waiting for the food to arrive. She seems very curious on my previous travels so I take her up to the hotel room to show her some pictures from a previous trip. After a few minutes of showing her photos I pull her towards me and we start kissing. I then take her hand, lead her to the bedroom, and remove her top. I don't know what it was about her shirt but damn she has some super fine big tits for a girl her size. Soon we're both completely naked and I go down on her. She tastes great and is already extremely wet, moaning but trying to keep quiet for some reason. In hindsight if she was this wet before I even started I probably should have been more aggressive and invited her to my room sooner. Her pussy was really tight and the only times I've come quicker (couldn't have been more than 10 minutes) were when I was a teenager or just trying to get some sleep at 4AM. She needs to leave so I give her money for a taxi. We've stayed in contact and she's a girl I'd like to see again. She will occasionally send me whatsapp photos of her pole dancing classes.

My second Colombian notch.

It's now mid-afternoon and girl #1 really wants to see me again. She says she has something for me and will meet me at my hotel. I say that's fine but I don't have a lot of time. She arrives and we grab a beer together. I definitely could have pulled her up to my room for the hook up but I want to be ready to roll with the new girl I'm meeting for dinner.

I need a quick nap so I change my date to 10PM but even then I'm 15 minutes late and girl #5 is waiting for me with a 2 person table at Andres DC (a famous restaurant I wanted to eat at before I left).

Girl #5: Met on Tinder, speaks some English. From Argentina (Buenos Aires), cute smile and I just love her energetic personality from the start. She is sitting behind the table so I can't get a great look but she is thin. I'd find out 2 hours later when we start dancing that she was rather short, only 5'3 (from how high she sat at the table I would have guessed like 5'7 initially). I'd give her body a 7 but given her energy and that she was from Argentina, maybe a 7.5

We have some really good conversation and are feeding each other our meals in a sexy way. As we are finishing our food I lean across the table to whisper and kiss her. She likes it and immediately says we should grab some shots then go dance. After a couple Aguardiente shots we start dancing. It's a Sunday night before a holiday and she keeps remarking how normally it's more crowded but is glad she has some space. I'm an average dancer (not great moves but act confident and look like I'm having a blast in a cool manner, which is better than most so maybe I'd say I'm an above average dancer). In any case it doesn't matter - she is the best fucking dancer I've ever partnered with, and this includes instructors from bullshit classes I took in college. She says she has taken classes non-stop since she was 3 of all different styles and you can tell. All the other couples are occasionally glancing at us (possibly because I as the only gringo on the floor of the ~15 couples). I think she's impressed by my energy (and secretly hoping it translates to the bedroom), and I lose all thoughts of inviting her back to my hotel at the moment since it's very rare to have a partner so talented. We lose track of time and next thing we know it's 3AM and they are kicking everyone out. She suggests we share at cab back to my hotel. When we arrive at my hotel and despite having a room for 2 guests they initially try and charge me $60 for an overnight guest. I go to the front desk and tell them to look up my reservation and they see I'm the highest status the hotel offers so agree to "let it slide this time" but do take the girl's name down. I'm pissed but it's my last night so let it go and don't make a scene.

Within 2 minutes I"m fingering her and she is moaning "Oh Baby" non-stop and loud. We bang all night and morning, on the bed, on the floor, in the shower. We must have only gotten 1 hour of sleep. We each orgasm multiple times and her only complaint is that I'm not always hard. Girl, it can take several minutes after I come all over you for me to then do it again (FYI - I'm not taking any supplements or testosterone).

I give her money for a taxi in the morning and take off for the airport. Despite my taxi having to stop for a few minutes while some idiot does HANDSTANDS in the middle of the road I make my flight in time.

Argentina flag captured.

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Some general tips & suggestions:

1) Fashion is important if you will be in Zona Rosa. I was often wearing dark jeans and a navy blazer. Nice shoes with either a button-up shirt or plain t-shirt. The girls seemed to dig the blazer, and it was just the right amount of dressing above the competition but not too formal or out of place.

2) Take Bogota Bike Tours. It is a great tour if you want to see the city. Cheap (35k or ~14USD). You can play tejo. Potentially meet wingman. And the pictures will greatly impress girls as you'll distinguish yourself from the sex tourists and have plausible deniability if they try and accuse you of such or think you're out gaming girls 24/7

3) Go to Andres DC if you want a good meal or like dancing. It can be a bit expensive (by Colombian standards, not American). There are better places to go alone but with a date or in a group you should have fun. My next visit I will go to the original Andres Carne del Res in Chia (outside Bogota).

4) Since I had a short stay the biggest resistance I was facing was girls asking why I was in Bogota. My company has an office in Bogota so I used that as my back story, saying I may potentially move to Bogota for work but wanted to check out the city first and see how I liked it. As mentioned by others you need to have a better response than you are simply visiting for a few days, even if that is what you are doing.

5) Knowing Spanish helps. I'm not sure it was a deal breaker with any of the girls, given that they all spoke some English and I met them on Tinder. But if you are going to do cold daygame or nightgame some Spanish is necessary unless you have something else going for you like elite body language or exceptional looks.

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For next time:

1) I'll probably hit up girls #2, 4, & 5 again. Girls #1 & 3 were rich and I told them if they visit the USA to let me know but we'll see if anything happens.

2) I want to do more daygame and nightgame and less online. Feels more authentic and will help my game in the future and other countries. This is a real weak spot in my game (not terrible but can definitely improve a lot).

3) I want to increase quality. The girls I had were fine but I know I can do better. I think my success was mostly due to staying at a high-end hotel, having good fashion, and having an above average body. Looking back I think the girls made up there mind to fuck me within the first few minutes, and I simply needed to not fuck up or get drunk. High quality girls will test my game and force me to improve or strike out.

4) Would love to meet up with some forum members next time I'm in Colombia.

I have a few pics of the girls mentioned above. If repped members are interested I can PM.

Any questions let me know. This has been a great thread and being new to game I've learned a lot. I've got another 4-day Colombia trip and a 3-week Europe trip coming up very soon. If people like this info let me know and I'll do some write ups after those trips.

Cheers.

Kevin, nice data sheet and congrats with your great time in Bogota. Only thing is do tell the ages of the girls, as it is very important to put things in context.

Seems like you have a good time, well done! Next time you should consider posting in the meetup thread or this one, I'm out here rooming with another RVFer, would be fun to meet some other like minded men.

On another note, everyone says Colombia is slightly harder than the Philippines, but when you factor in that Philippines is mostly about quantity of 5's, 6's, and 7's, Colombia may actually be easier, considering that average girl here is hotter than the average filipina and not too hard to pull. That has been my experience so far, as well as my RVF roommate, and we are staying in the southern part of Chapinero, pretty far away from the upper class zona rosa/zona t action.

(07-26-2015 12:42 PM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  but when you factor in that Philippines is mostly about quantity of 5's, 6's, and 7's, Colombia may actually be easier

Interesting. When you say that, are you assuming the reader knows enough Spanish to hold a conversation?

(07-26-2015 02:18 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 12:42 PM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  but when you factor in that Philippines is mostly about quantity of 5's, 6's, and 7's, Colombia may actually be easier

Interesting. When you say that, are you assuming the reader knows enough Spanish to hold a conversation?

Yeah, there are a few caveats, speaking spanish would be one of them, unless you have Linux abilities.

I also can't comment on the young girls yet, since I've only dealt with late 20's-31 so far, but judging from my roommate's success with them and another guy who was down here I'd say if you put in any decent effort and have your shit together you will be fine with the younger crowd.

Me- 5'9 on a good day, 30, 175 pounds, pretty muscular, dark brown hair, white, decent looking. My standard nighttime outfit is a leather jacket, jeans, a nice pair of Aldo's, and a button up or form fitting shirt underneath.

My spanish is conversational, google translate takes care of the rest.

So far just been doing online game, with a day approach here and there. Only 2 weeks in, so will slowly transition to daygame as online leads dry up.

Great thread. I'm planning on going back to Colombia around the new year with a buddy of mine who's never been there. This thread has me fired up. Not sure why but just about all the pictures that are posted have been moved or deleted.

I strongly recommend you guys find a wing-man if you're going to be roaming the streets and cabbing it around.

Lots of people underestimate how fast things can get crazy in these parts of the world. I was at an after hours bar in a small city in Cuba when all of a sudden a guy got pulled from a moving truck, massive knifes were gripped no more than 10 feet from me. I saw guys all of a sudden run away with huge knifes in their hands. Next day I found out a guy was murdered. It happened probably 20 feet from me though I didn't notice at the time as there was such a commotion.

Stuff can get real quick and I can imagine in a place with guns like Colombia / Brazil it can get very real very quick putting not just those involved in danger but bystanders.

I wore flip flops all around Medellin. I really wonder if that gave me an advantage in staying off the radar for robbery.

You gotta figure if they're going through the trouble to pick targets who might be hiding money, they also want some decent shoes out of the deal.
I used to think dressing somewhat trashy would help you avoid being a target, but considering they rob other poor Colombians maybe that doesn't make any difference.

If I were them, I would pick white people but I never got the impression your average blonde gringo is a particular target to them

^ They robbed the girl because they knew she had money in her boots, they don't care about shoes or boots.

Not sure about Colombia, but flip flops are usually worn by tourists in the Caribbean. So they might make you a target, but ultimately these are poor countries and things can pop off anytime.

Linux post gives a true dose of reality from the local people.

(07-27-2015 09:56 PM)LINUX Wrote:  I wasn't going to post this but I think I should.

The other night I got a call in the middle of the night from a girl crying that I was with in Colombia. Her father was shot four times in the head and robbed in cold blood in the streets of Bogota. He's dead.

Another girl I was with was robbed in Cali. The motorcycle pulled up next to her and demanded she hand over her purse and her boots. Why her boots? Because they know people hide money in their shoes.

Six months ago a girl I was with in Rio De Janerio , her sister was mugged, raped, and killed on two blocks from the beach on Copacabana.

I know this thread has encouraged a lot of people to travel to Colombia and South America. But don't get the idea that you're taking a trip to Denmark. Shit can go south really fast and you could be left in the situation where you throw up your hands and say I don't want any violence or you're going into flight or flight and start throwing punches, you never know what's the right decision until it's too late.

I strongly recommend you guys find a wing-man if you're going to be roaming the streets and cabbing it around.

What area did the father die in? I am in Bogota, not looking to get into trouble.

Not to get on the negative but saw this recently (I know apparently there are some BS set up scams etc ) but just thought some might be interested.

Dude at 36:00 is worth watching

Tinder really is a game changer in Colombia it seems

The number one thing every Colombian I talked to told me was to use the taxi apps. It is very cheap to get a local sim for 3g and taking a taxi off the street, especially in Bogota, especially at night can be very dangerous.

Number two was to always watch your alcohol.

I followed both of those and probably paid a little more in cabs and threw away or turned down a few drinks that I wasn't sure about but these are very minor things.

Life is too cheap in Colombia.

(07-28-2015 04:47 PM)Blunt Wrote:  The number one thing every Colombian I talked to told me was to use the taxi apps. It is very cheap to get a local sim for 3g and taking a taxi off the street, especially in Bogota, especially at night can be very dangerous.

Number two was to always watch your alcohol.

I followed both of those and probably paid a little more in cabs and threw away or turned down a few drinks that I wasn't sure about but these are very minor things.

Life is too cheap in Colombia.

I've been traveling/living in Latin America for almost 20 years, and aside from getting mugged a few times at gunpoint in Mexico City, and Lima, I've never had any major problems. If you take the necessary precautions getting murdered is very unlikely in those countries. I agree with Blunt. I have 3 rules that I always follow: never get fucked up drunk, always take a secured taxi either call in or from an app, and always have "rob me" money in your pocket. I leave all my atm cards in the apartment hidden.

Keep on fearmongering as much as you please.
Stories like this are like adding fuel to the fire inside me, my desire for going to these places and see how it is with my own eyes is just growing stronger and stronger.

Mindfulness in all honor, but if you are afraid of getting robbed or killed around the first corner as soon as you hit the streets, maybe you shouldn't sail away from the safe harbour called as home.

I don't know about you guys, but if I have to choose from being safe and jerking off in pure boredom at home, or traveling to exotic countries and having a good time it's a no brainer.
Even if it involves the risk of getting robbed,killed or gangbanged in the ass of a gang of thugs with STD's.

I'll take the chance at any day.

(07-27-2015 09:56 PM)LINUX Wrote:  .....

As someone who lived in Bogota and various parts of Colombia, I can only encourage others to heed Linux's advice.

The thing about Colombia is that it can seem utterly normal and safe, which in fact it is for the most part when compared to Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela etc, but that doesn't mean that the ghosts of the recent past aren't still lurking around. Shopping in Andino mall may have you feeling like you're in Orange County, but walk a few minutes the other side of the Transmilenio line and you're back in reality.

I went to every corner of Bogota during my time there visiting companies from the outskirts to the filthy middle, carrying a laptop bag (don't do that), and it took all of my confidence and slum savvy, in addition to luck and following my gut, in order to keep shit shiny side up.

Someone like Linux, spending time in a city like (redacted) and chillin' at ladies places in not so great areas, is a guy that knows how to read a situation and come out ok, and I'm sure that comes from his past experiences in life. Not everyone is has that benefit, and I wouldn't want guys flying down to Medellin thinking its a DisneyPussyLand guided tour.

I moved to (redacted) at (redacted) years old alone in (redacted), that kind of experienced shaped me, helped hone my instinct for shit going south, and helped me live in and navigate the dirty backwaters of the world.

If you go there looking like the average gringo and then walk around buzzed alone thinking everything is easy and great..you might have a rough time. You might not... But that doesn't mean shit isn't there waiting for you to slip up one too many times.

I lived on the edge of the (redacted) neighborhood, in the last of the decent places spilling over from a much nicer adjacent neighborhood, before you actually go down into the much less desirable (redacted). This is where I lived, pretty decent:






But this was a 5 minute walk away, where I would go eat, a different situation...






Some easy to follow/general advice? Stay near the mountains. Stay North (East? Still get confused about that) of the Transmilenio line. Is everywhere outside of that terrible and dangerous? No not at all, but if you don't know your shit you won't know if it is or isn't, so its just an easy rule of thumb. There isn't much worth seeing in the rest of Bogota anyway. Well, except for pussy of course.

Guys, as long as we're talking about things to watch out for in Colombia:

Were this a normal* person, and I heard this story, I would guess that there would be about a 20% chance of it being true. The most likely scenario is that it would lead to a few further tales of woe and that very quickly down the line, this girl would began asking for money.

I've heard of this, or variations of it happening, and I've known people personally who got played in milder ways by girls down there. The success people have had with tinder game makes me think it's largely replaced sites like Colombian Cupid, meaning for every quality girl you're going to have a few hustlers.

*Note I say normal person because I think when you're as good a player as Linux is you probably have a pretty good sense for when you're being lied to. He also may have proof and not want to link any news articles.

The most marriage-able girls I've known in my life were Colombian, but so were the biggest lying, gold digging hoes.

Anyone down to hit Gringo T's tomorrow send me a PM

All girls in my earlier post were 21-25, my default age for my occasional use in the USA.

Also I'll be back in Bogota for several days starting this Thursday. Send me a PM if you want to meet up.

Planning a trip to Colombia next year, narrowed it down to 3 cities Bogota, Medellin, and Cali. Can someone shed light what the girls look like in each city, things to do, % of English speaker? I'm a day game person and planning to take Spanish classes.

What I gathered from this thread:
Bogota: big city similar to New York = best for day game?
Medellin: higher quality girls
Cali: Darker skinned girls

(08-04-2015 10:47 PM)Wuking Wrote:  Planning a trip to Colombia next year, narrowed it down to 3 cities Bogota, Medellin, and Cali. Can someone shed light what the girls look like in each city, things to do, % of English speaker? I'm a day game person and planning to take Spanish classes.

What I gathered from this thread:
Bogota: big city similar to New York = best for day game?
Medellin: higher quality girls
Cali: Darker skinned girls

You answered your own question in the last three lines and I agree with that summary. For general information, there's enough hype, I mean information, on the forum to make you go blind.

I will find out who you are.